DING DING DING DING DING!!!!! -13.... How High can this go???
Did you see that flyer for Obama from Oregon? Obama is the messiah. So much for seperation of church and state, in Obama they are one.
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/200...al-
messiah.html
Obama called on the United States to "lead by example" on global warming, and develop new technologies at home which could be exported to developing countries.
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.
Who gives a flying F*** what other countries say, I am so sick of all these politicians on both sides wanting us to suffer or be threatened so that some backward marxist across the world will respect us.
Redevelop our oil, steel, and auto industry and the rest of the world will envy us the way they used to.
But to the left that is the unholy trinity, unless of course it's feeding the union leach...
Since when is it the government's business in the United States as to how citizens spend their money?
GW my a$$. It's 42 degrees this morning with a wind chill of 36 here in CNY
Did you see that flyer for Obama from Oregon? Obama is the messiah. So much for seperation of church and state, in Obama they are one.--AP
ROTFLMAO!!!
Overreact much? Can you prove the government put out that flyer? I doubt the Bush administration would do such a thing.
As to your absurd comment on separation of church and state, that applies ONLY when the GOVERNMENT favors one religion over others.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with someone's fanciful picture or even the silly notion of Obama as a "messiah."
Lots of people go overboard at some point with the candidate they support.
Why I remember when y'all felt the same way for Ronald W. Reagan. (or Saint Ronnie, as he is affectionately known).
Relax. No one believes Obama is a messiah.
But he does kick major butt when it comes to drawing crowds, eh?
And Obama is not another Jimmy Carter. He's more like Ronald Reaga, because lots of Republicans are crossing over to vote for him, he has a natural ability to communicate, and doggone it, people LIKE him!
...and doggone it, people LIKE him! (Quote from Stuart Smalley AJA AL Franken?)
Shaw: Jimmy Carter was a likeable guy. I was still a little young at the time, but he looked quite likeable.
However, with few exceptions, most of his domestic and foreign policy moves worsened things for this country. And the parallels we are seeing Obama keep on coming.
As for Saint Obama himself, there are far too many people out there (and I surspect you are in the camp) that repeat the mantras of hope and change without fully analyzing the repercussions of what that means.
It means more government involvement in every aspect in our lives. Ask any question that begins with "Do you want the government to decide...," and the majority will say no. Our problems with Obama is that every change he speaks of involves more government control. And asking us to sacrifice so Washington doesn't have to. (Another thing from the sweater-clad Carter)
Shaw: I give you more credit than most liberal moonbats. I may have to reevaulate that assumption.
II find it impossible to believe you are unaware of the mountain of criticism directed at Republicans who dare so much as to say the word "God" or "Jesus" in connection with any political activity.
Yet, here we have open cult worship of Obama, along with the flyer posted on these pages distributed by the Obama campaign where he uses a church pulpit as the backdrop and says he is doing the "Lords worl."
I am glad to know that in future, you will not be making any negative references to right wing Christians, or political candidates that may occasionally use religious references.
Aah Shaw don't get your shorts all in a bunch. Obama can have the title Messiah for a little while, but the real one is coming, and he will divide the pretenders from the contenders, choose wisely.
Mike, you posted these words from Carter's "malaise" speech ....In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We've learned that piling up material goods cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose.
I'll be one of the first to say that his presidency was one of if not the most ineffective in our history. But those words are as clear an understanding of a bad spiritual condition as one can see.
How many of the Christian Right have not used those very words to explain to someone their need for God in their lives?
More than anything, Carter was probably a victim of believing that you could run a government on core Christian principles like humility, equality with others, turning the other cheek, loving your enemies, etc.
I've never made fun of right wing Christians, since my own brother, who lives in Tennessee and has been a lifelong Republican, is a "born-again."
Although I do reserve the right to mercilessly kid him, as he mercilessly kids me for my views. He works for the county sheriff and is a gun toting conservative.
Mike, you've got it wrong. No one I know has any problem with anyone saying God or Jesus. It's just when we hear OUR government prefer one religion over others that makes us uncomfortable.
We are one of the most religious countries in the world. Very much like the countries in the ME, where if you don't proclaim your allegiance to The Lord, you are seen as some sort of infidel. In this country, we don't kill non-believers, it is true, but a non-believer, or a believer in a non-mainstream religion has a ZERO chance at being president. This is absolutely NOT true in other western democracies. No one really gives a hang about their leaders' religious beliefs. Only this country, like the Middle Eastern countries, is suspect of anyone who doesn't hold a belief in god.
Patrick,
This Republican administration is responsible for the largest federal agency ever instituted in the history of this country, the Department of Homeland Security.
This Republican administration is the first in the history of the US to wage war AND CUT TAXES. The cost of the war is being paid for in supplemental bills--we really have no accurate idea of how many billions of $$$$ it is costing you, your children, and your grandchildren.
This Republican president vetoed one or maybe two (I can't remember) bills passed by his Republican Congress. He couldn't say no to any earmarked bill that has been passed over the last 7 1/2 years.
This Republican administration has given us a huge deficit and sunk us in drowning debt.
And this Republican administration has appointed Supreme Court justices that may allow the government to tell women what they can or cannot do with their bodies, and may allow states to decide how to make it more difficult to vote--the most basic right in a democracy.
The deregulation drunken spree over the last 20 years has given us criminals in the housing sector, and crooks in private industry--Enron, WorldCom, GlobalCrossing, etc.
And after 5 years in Iraq, there seems not to be an end in sight. Sunnis are fighting Shiites, Shiites are fighting Shiites, Iran is stronger now than it was in 2001, when after 9/11, they extended their hand to Washington to help and Bush promptly labeled them part of the Axis of Evil. They now have, thanks to Bush, a Shiite partner in Iraq.
And whoever suggested that Bush go to the Saudis, hat in hand, and ask them to help out with our oil crunch should have his or her a*s fired.
That made him look weak--and in turn made this country look weak.
PS. How's that Canadian dollar doin' against the US dollar? First time in my lifetime the Canadians are coming here for b
That made him look weak--and in turn made this country look weak.
PS. How's that Canadian dollar doin' against the US dollar? First time in my lifetime the Canadians are coming here for bargains. And anyone have any plans to go to Yrup where you have to spend $1.60 to buy one Euro?
Is there anything left for George Bush and his cronies to ruin?
Come on Shaw. Who do you think you are fooling?
Don't any of your bedwetting liberal buddies rant about right wing Christians and President Bush's faith?
Tell me again they do not. I need a good laugh!
Mike, of course libs rant against God Bush's faith. But that does not make it right does it?
I think that is part of the problem in DC. Neither party can get past the "they do/did it so I can too" mentality.
Bad manners by one group does not justify bad manners by the other side.
So the question then becomes, how can we get past what we now how, real, heated, bitter partisanship, and have both sides working together for the best solutions for America, her people, and our lives?
I am going to guess that it will mean some Democratic solutions are better, and some Republican solutions are better. If we continue to live in a either/or world, we'll never move ahead.
Dave, Dave, Dave!
The point is, WE DON"T DO IT!
Show me the last time a Republican used a church pulpit in a political ad.
I don't have any problem AT ALL with politicians talking about religion or even campaigning in churches if they want to.
What I DO have a problem with is this one sided criticism directed at Republicans and the religious right.
And I reject any attempt to say the two parties are morally equivalent in this regard.
They are not.
Mike, where's the velvet painting of Obama? I want to see the roses and unicorns because they fill me with hope and change and change and hope.
I can make this prediction if Obamessiah wins in November:
The Left will see their messiah crucified the same way they did to George Bush for the last 8 years. Believe me, it's gearing up.
Yet another sppech lacking substance from a candidate without experience or a core!
atheling: Here's the latest Obama cult icon:
http://i80.photobucket.com/album...rica2/
10910.jpg
I'm sure "Arthur" (I place his name in quotes because his REAL name is DICK) will be selling them at his stall in Pioneer Square in Seattle very soon.
Mike, did you notice Shaw immediately jumped to the conclusion that image of the messiah Obama was some kind of right wing plant? Gee.
Shaw: There's only two things I can say after your usual anti-Bush tirade.
First, about the growth of government, you are generally right. Bush and the GOP HAVE forgotten about shrinking the size of government. I've got more to say on that later.
And second, a question: How will Obama shrink the size of government? I'm just curious, because I haven't heard one damn thing about him doing so. (BTW, cutting and running from Iraq won't reduce the size of government)
Speaking of the cult of the Messiah, this just in:
Georgia Republican Party chairwoman Sue Everhart said Saturday that the party's presumed presidential nominee has a lot in common with Jesus Christ.
"John McCain is kind of like Jesus Christ on the cross," Everhart said as she began the second day of the state GOP convention. "He never denounced God, either."
The silly season is definitely upon us.
Anna: I missed that. It seems these Dems are getting VERY defensive.
Shaw: One lame-o Republican doesn't match the THOUSANDS of LAME-O Dems who think the Obamessiah can walk on water:
http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com...t-of-
obama.html
When it comes to "silly" you people have us beat every time.
Now, go back to your Obama temple and pray on the matter.
It's hard feeling the other side's pain from....the richman's Myrtle Beach, ain't it, country clubber?
Yeah lets all feel sorry for the poor Obamanation and his poverty stricken wife... Boo Hoo a pair of poverty pimps with Ivy league educations
Troll: It's amazing how his wife goes out there and says all these loony things and then Obama demands that no one can criticize here.
Typical elitist.
so you read my post I take it...
http://thecitytroll.blogspot.com...-hoo-
obama.html
This guy just gets better and better
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that last summer, Illinois Senator Barack Obama told officials in the Teamsters union that he favored ending the Independent Review Board (IRB) that was created in 1989 by the federal government to rid the union of organized crime. Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for Obama, confirmed the story, saying that the candidate believed that the IRB had "run its course" because "organized crime influence in the union has drastically declined." The Teamsters subsequently endorsed Obama for president, in late February.
http://tnr.com/politics/story.ht...00-
e2004369fbec
Troll:
Obamessiah also wants to end the secret ballot in union voting.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,356643,00.html
Obama wants to count the votes to make sure people vote the correct way Atheling2. Talk about extending the pernicious tentacles of invasiveness... just think if he was President. Be more than that one buddy of Bubba trowling through the FBI files on Republicans that is almost a given if he does not want secret ballots.
Boy, Obama sure does say nothing good.
Troll: It's amazing how his wife goes out there and says all these loony things and then Obama demands that no one can criticize here.
Typical elitist.
Excellent. Now I suppose you will want to see Cindy McCain's tax returns right?
Art the stoned Thanks for proving my point
"Arthur" When Cindy McCain says something dumb you can pounce. But she's a private citizen and you have no more right to view her tax returns than I do yours.
So, unless you want to post your return here for all to see, grow a brain and now when to keep quiet.
Mike typed:
"Arthur" When Cindy McCain says something dumb you can pounce. But she's a private citizen and you have no more right to view her tax returns than I do yours.
Wasn't Teresa Heinz a private citizen? Sorry. I seem to remember a great deal of this sort of thing in 2004:
But in a July 1, 2004, editorial, the Journal asserted that it was "past time" for Sen. John Kerry's wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, to release her tax returns. The editorial's subheadline stated: "His divorce records are his own business. His wife's tax returns aren't." The Journal claimed: "The Kerrys would be the richest couple ever to live in the White House, and with wealth comes responsibility. Their assets should be disclosed to the voters so that they can assess whether there are any potential conflicts of interest." In calling on Heinz Kerry to release her tax returns, the Journal also cited the role Heinz Kerry's wealth purportedly played in her husband's presidential campaign. But Cindy McCain's personal fortune has reportedly played a role in the presidential campaign of her husband as well.
Ya, Reagan got elected.
A lot of player hate'n going on.
You're just upset because the last time you saw that many white people show up to see a black guy he was hanging from a tree limb.
Arthur: Did Teresa Heinz Kerry release her FULL tax return????
Sorry, but the precedent for refusing to release that information was established BY DEMOCRATS.
hey toad go watch another syar wars movie, that is your speed
Arthur the leech of the rich bitches about Cindy McCain and taxes.
I bet if she walked into his "gallery", he would fawn all over her and take her money.
Hypocrite.
atheling
Business is business. Why do hate entrepreneurs so much?
I bet Artie makes more than the puny 8% profit the big oil companies do.
It's about time "Arthur" and his fellow art dealers started paying their fair share. After raking in HUGE profits, it's time they give more back to the community than the paltry taxes they currently pay.
We know that lefties can't be counted on to do charitable giving, so it's going to have to be a windfall profits tax. I say 80% of his income should be enough.
I have no problem with oil company profits. Supply & demand. That's how markets work. Expensive gas will be good for this country. Conservation. Greater fuel efficiency. Less pollution. Better public transportation. All good things. Of course only the wealthy will be able to take the hummer to the store for Haagen Dazs, but that's the American way. If you can afford it then you should have it. Right?
"Expensive gas will be good for this country. "
So why is Barack Obama going around the country complaining about it?
Conservation is not the solution to energy independence. It is however, the best way to ensure that the Arabs will get another couple $trillions of our money.
Mike-
I disagree with Obama on this one. So? Slavish devotion to one's candidate's every utterance is unwise.
Or have you not noticed?
You disagree with nearly every member of your party then.
Chuck Schumers been beating high gas prices like a drum for years.
Mike typed:
You disagree with nearly every member of your party then.
So? We agree on plenty of other things.
In my view gas is too cheap.
Period.
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