DING DING DING DING DING!!!!! -13.... How High can this go???

Gravatar Enraged, that is what I am. There was a simple solution to this "problem" they had...please check out my solution.

http://ci-report.blogspot.com

I am pissed, how dare they.


Gravatar I like your idea MD:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/ 3...e07263459_o.jpg


Gravatar They trash the country so why trash the flag too?


Gravatar Here is an early expose on the Dems dumping the flags from 1 Sep.
http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot....-whole- dem.html

All people and things are props to the Dems if it allows them to gain control. I think this is akin to sociopathy.


Gravatar I just heard this Sat AM and should have known you'd be up on it. I'm watching the speeches in Colorado where thise 12,000. flags are being put to good use.
Are we going to hear this anywhere on TV other than FOX? Doubt it.


Gravatar [EDITOR'S NOTE: THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS YET TO RETRACT THE LIES AND SMEARS HE PUSHED REGARDING SARAH PALIN AND THEREFORE DOES NOT DESERVE ANY CONSIDERATION ON ANOTHER ISSUE.

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Gravatar Great Minds Mike,

I posted on this too.

Bastages


Gravatar Oh now Obama's group is claiming the Republican's stole the flag's lol


Gravatar Did we steal them out of the trash bags where they were mixed in with old pizza boxes?

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/...mystery-solved/


Gravatar [EDITOR"S NOTE: THIS INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO REPEAT A LIE AND SMEAR WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE. HE HAS NOT PRESENTED ANY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OR STATEMENT TO SUPPORT HIS LIES AND HIS COMMENT HAS BEEN DELETED]

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Gravatar NarieTwoCents the flags were in garbage bags which means under court rulings they are public property. Reason why police dont need search warrants on the garbage you put on the curb.


Gravatar I know lets send those that did this to the Middle East!

We don't need them here!!!


Gravatar Damn good idea!


Gravatar Anna,

NarieTwoCents the flags were in garbage bags which means under court rulings they are public property. Reason why police dont need search warrants on the garbage you put on the curb.

I'm sure ya meant me lol,

You are right, after the crowds were gone and the garbaaaaage was being collected, anyone could have gone on in there and gathered them up but thank heaven's for the worker at Invesco Field 'eh?

I wonder whose idea it was to give them to the McCain campain?

Whoever it was, was brilliant!


Gravatar Update: More information has been added to the post which precedes this one. The flags were left abandoned for over a week.


Gravatar I did mean you Marie, all I can say is dyslexia of the keyboard is terminal... o.O;

Yes am thankful those flags were saved from a disrespectful trashing. Kudos to people in Denver who still honor one of the most potent symbols of the United States.

Mike, can we abandon the Democrats the same way?


Gravatar I think with the democrats a trash compactor would do the job after bagging them all up!


Gravatar The flag story is b******t and you know it.

Cheers.

But here's a better story than our discussion of Palin's secessionist sympathies.

'Thanks but no thanks.'

She was for the bridge. She was against the bridge. She kept the money in the end.


Gravatar Part one:

"Arthur" I realize that intellectually dishonest and specious word games are your stock in trade but I am going to give you one last chance. If after that you fail to admit you are WRONG AGAIN I will continue deleting your comments until such time as you retract your smears.

I will remind you again, that Gov. Palin's address to the Alaska Independence Party convention had the same tone and substance as one any elected official might direct to the meeting of the Chamber of Commerce. I am speaking from my experience both in the White House and work for U.S. Senator Alphonse D'Amato.

I also note that nowhere in Gov. Palin's address did she endorse any secessionist views and no secessionist views are included in the platform of the AIP which is reproduced in the following comment:


Gravatar Part Two:

Platform and Goal of the Alaskan Independence Party

Preamble


We affirm that all political power is inherent in the people; that all government originates with the people, is founded on their will only, is instituted to protect the rights of the individual; that all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the enjoyment of the rewards of their own industry; that all persons are equal and entitled to equal protection under the law. We stand on a firm constitutional foundation.

Platform
We pledge to exert our best efforts to accomplish the following:


1.To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.

2.To support and defend States' Rights, Individual Rights, Property Rights, and the Equal Footing Doctrine as guaranteed by the constitutions of the United States of America and the state of Alaska.

3.To advocate the convening of a State Constitutional Convention at the constitutionally designated 10 year interval.

4.To reinforce the unalienable rights endowed by our Creator to Alaska law, by eliminating the use of the word "privilege" in the Alaska statutes.

5.To amend the Constitution of the State of Alaska so as to re-establish the rights of all Alaskan residents to entry upon all public lands within the state, and to acquire private property interest there in, under fair and reasonable conditions. Such property interest shall include surface and sub-surface patent.

6.To foster a constitutional amendment abolishing and prohibiting all property taxes.

7.To seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution.

8.To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature.

9.To preserve and protect the Alaska Permanent Fund, Permanent fund earnings, earnings reserve fund and individual Permanent Fund Dividends.

10.To provide for the direct popular election of the attorney general, all judges, and magistrates.

11.To provide for the development of unrestricted, statewide, surface transportation and utility corridors as needed by the public or any individual.

12.To affirm and assert every possible right-of-way established under R.S. 2477 of July 26, 1866, before its repeal by the Federal Land Management Policy Act of October 21, 1976.

13.To support the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.

14.To support the complete abolition of the concept of sovereign or governmental immunity, so as to restore accountability for public servants.

15.To support the rights of parents to privately or home school their children.

16.To support the privatization of government services.

17.To oppose the borrowing of money by government for any purposes other than for capital improvements.

18.To strengthen the traditional family and support individual accountability without government interference or regulation.

19.To support the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, according to their conscience.

20.To support "Jobs for Alaskans...First!"


Gravatar Part Three:

I am not aware if any members of the AIP believe in secession. If you are insinuating that some may and that Sarah Palin is endorsing that view by agreeing to welcome the convention then let's apply that same logic to the Democrats:

In the past, Democrats, including Senator Robert Byrd, a former elected leader of the Ku Klux Klan, have expressed the view that black people are inferior and that segregation is the right policy to follow. Therefore, using your logic attached to Gov. Palin's address to AIP, Barack Obama believes blacks are inferior and should be segregated.

Again, "Arthur" I invite you to retract the multiple unfounded smears you have leveled at Sarah Palin without equivocation.

Failure to do so means you are not a serious individual and no one should bother reading or responding to your opinions.

The choice is yours. Choose wisely!


Gravatar From the AIP website:

Goals

Until we as Alaskans receive our Ultimate Goal, the AIP will continue to strive to make Alaska a better place to live with less government interference in our everyday lives.


The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:

1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, which was for Alaskans to achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences.


Gravatar Or, as Joe Vogler, founder of the AIP so eloquently put it:

“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government… And I won’t be buried under their damn flag,” - Joe Vogler in 1991, Founder of the Alaska Independence Party


Gravatar One last time "Arthur" there is nothing in the AIP which demands secession from the United States and there is no statement from Sarah Palin saying that she would support any such move (obviously since none exists).

If you are unable to grasp the fundamental reality here and retract your smears then I will not permit you to continue spreading them.

I've asked before: are you a liar, just stupid or both?

Or do you agree that Obama supports racial segregation based on the inferiorty of blacks?


Gravatar Mike-

Alaska Independence Party

Note the word 'independence'.

Note the phrase 'Ultimate Goal'.

Note the phrase 'separate and independent nation'.


Cheers.


Gravatar Wrong again Arthur. You have cherry picked the AIP and I reprinted their entire platform which swear allegiance to the U.S. Constiution:

Platform
We pledge to exert our best efforts to accomplish the following:

1.To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.


And no where do you find Sarah Palin endorsing any secessionist views.

One last time before I bring down the axe: retract your smear or find your comments deleted.


Gravatar arthur is grasping at straws. The deal is done and the next Pres and Veep will be McCain and Palin siple as that.


Gravatar Jennifer: "Arthur's" stock in trade is smears lies and games. But you knew that already.

I've given him ample opportunity to retract his smear but by now, he's convinced himself it's the truth.

So, again, using his logic, that makes him a supporter of a candidate who supports racial segregation and believes blacks are inferior.


Gravatar FINAL WARNING: "Arthur" I've laid it all out for you several times now. There is NO connection between Sarah Palin and any endorsement of secessionist views.

If you are unable to retract your smear, your comments will be deleted.

Last chance! I've gone the extra mile and you have shown thus far that my tolerance is a waste of time.




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