The Galloping Beaver
Dave, thank you. I've not slept, I've been haunted by the death of Robert Dziekanski; the tear sliding down the cheek of a witness viewing Pritchard's video for the first time, the grief of the family, the lies, the silence of those complict in his killing.
I've been outraged by the bellicose PR spewing out of Taser International.
I appreciate the work you put into this post zapping Taser International lies and assumptions and blaming.
Thank you for being an honest word warrior for the Dziekanski family. I will sleep now. Well done.
Yep. Bringing up 'excited delirium' was pretty much a given.
What we need to do is smack it down whenever we see it reported in our Canadian media in relation to Mr. Dziekanski.
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting on this one, Dave. Great roundup of resource material. We should all bookmark this entry for reference.
Why doesn't Canada tell them to fark right off? They flog their crap world wide, that's a given. But has it been tested and passed in Canada? Is their product regulated or regulationable in Canada? Has it passed rigorous trials? Is it a weapon or a tool?
Canada can tell them that any Canadian can have any opinion on it that he or she wishes. It is a foreign product.
What worries me more than just the cops and Montebello agent provocateur-types taking them up in favour of pepper spray, batons and fakers who try to lure people into head-bashing, but ordinary USians can get them by freakin' post! So, they'll wind up here...
First child one of those tasers take out, Canadians can and will take their company to court for allowing their product to be transported outside their market.
Would that hold water? Or would it all come down on the mule?
This taser is almost like hard drugs in it's portability and popularity. It should be classified as a weapon, and any bozo found with one should be slammed in the Pen for some while (years).
Why should this company be allowed to endanger Canadians?
Let's fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here!
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As an aside to Bene, I too have been crying about what happened to Robert D at YVR, and I hardly ever cry.
If I had been away and someone told me about it I wouldn't have believed it. Yet it was true.
The sheer callousness, the so-what sort of attitude in the taser's firing at that standing sad cowed man asking for help has hurt something deep inside me.
I will never forget it.
He was tased, he was down, he stopped breathing, no one cared, no one gave first aid, he died.
Maybe it's because I have never seen a man killed though I have seen people die it affected me so badly. There was something very wrong about it. Simply wrong. My body and soul felt the wrongness. I don't know when I will feel right again.
But Dave, you don't understand. If you're not doing anything wrong (as the RCMP understand "anything wrong"), and especially if you're a normal person -- you know, well dressed, middle of the road, passive, lacking in many convictions, well mannered, proper, a good little Canadian -- then no one is going to taser you.
They're only after the sick, the lame, the halt, the unusual, the forthright -- you know, all those disposable people who don't really fit in. To a police state.
So far, anyway.
So don't worry. Be happy. And above all, try to look "normal," eh?
It would be a real shame if all this negative publicity were to affect the sales and spread of tasers. I'd be really sorry about that, for entire microseconds.
So Excited Delirium = Death by Cop.
For those of you who missed this earlier, TASER International has a darling little device that's just perfect for treasonous demonstrations by those dirty, leftist, atheistic,homo-loving, hippy peacefreaks, less-than-uberclass immigrants trying to enter Great Whiter-than-White North, and multiple killings by electrocution as needed:
http://www.taser.com/products/la...Pages/
XREP.aspx
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I have to say that the symptoms of excited delirium sound an awful lot like the symptoms of plain old shock. I expect that that is what most people killed by tasers die of and there just isn't any way to account for it, each person reacting to stress and pain differently. I would think that the effects would be lethal to a fair percentage of recipients.
non-lethal...does not mean the weapon cannot cause death, but that it is not intended to be fatal
Good lord. By that standard a handgun could be considered "non-lethal" so long as you didn't mean to kill someone with it ("I was just tryin' to wing him, seriously!"). What a crock.
I read a comment "somewhere" that said the police are trained by Blackwater in the use of tasers. Do you know if that is true?
Yep - Taser International blames the victim and the media .
The RCMP blames the victim too. Truth is a Cathy Pacific flight was due in a few minutes and they wanted him out of there. Why did they take so long to respond? Why didn't the airport take the appropriate measures and direct him to the information phone that was available in his language much sooner?
This victim couldn't help himself. Who is next - the disabled, mentally handicapped?
This poor man was an exhausted, frightened and lost soul in a strange country.
I hope the Canadian government moves quickly to ban tasers. And I hope the company that makes them is sued by every family who has been victimized and blamed by Taser International. And here is hoping the RCMP stop blaming their lack of training,the media, the witnesses and every one else.
I am just one angry Canadian. This man was murdered. He didn't deserve to die at the hands of overzealous police officers. He deserved to be fed, supported and welcomed to his new country by the airport until his family was found.
Great post.
He doth protest too much me thinks. Profit trumps people, a basic economic principle of our free market economy.
Sad, but Canadians seem to like it. They keep voting the same old political elites in to office, election after election.
The guy had convulsive movements triggered by the electrical shock this is what made him"jump"away from the cops... and that is what the Cops"read" as still..... fighting... the second shot /IN CLOSE RANGE/while still in the convulsive stage KILLED HIM .simple as it is..
He was electrocuted for unruly behavior.. he was not a threat to anyone with 4 Cops sorrunding him.
but hey we are for LAW AND ORDER ...isn't??
What the coroner and the police are blabbing about it is totally showing they know nothing about the stuff..and what the body actually goes goes through..
It is very frightening how the cops are trained and act without a remorse over this tragedy.
I remember I saw the tapes when the taser First was introduced to the public.. there were volunters who were shot from about 6-10 feet away...
This guy was shot from almost arm-length no more the two feet away and twice /at least/ the second shotwas done while in Convulsive state ... '
It was execution pure and simple.
The topic is sufficiently complicated that some people can easily be fooled by the propaganda. It takes a lot of space to systematically disaaemble the misinformation. Please see my weblog for some useful information.
Link= www.Excited-Delirium.com
If you live around Toronto, then see the info about Taser Chairman Smith coming to T.O. on 17 Jan. 2008.
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