the Wolverine origins story really proves what a crappy writer Daniel Way really is.
It felt like a really bad image comic.
Yeah Deodato's Ms. Sinister look odd, maybe it was just the clothes she was wearing or something else but his art came across as a bit muddled in places too.
The issue was pretty poor probably because it was the middle part of the story. But things didn't make sense, Shaw said last issue that they needed Xavier to blow-up Daken's 'mind bomb', yet sent hitmen to kill him. Way's awful dialogue continued to flow as well; lines like Logan calling Xavier a bastard and the whole hangman one were particularly groan-inducing.
You didn't miss anything by missing Ghost Boxes #1, it was utterly and completely forgettable. Also had the worst art I've ever seen from Alan Davis, looks like it might have been tossed off over a weekend or something.
I was also wondering who the woman on the cover of Secret Invasion: X-Men #3 was. My best guess was that she was supposed to be a Super Skrull infiltrating the X-men, though the plot appears to have absolutely nothing to do with that....
Isn't that Dazzler's current costume? I think it probably is her.
X-Men: SI had a terrible ending. I expect better from Carey instead of forced drama that we know will go nowhere. Although Emma had the best line of the year "How very Jean Grey of me. I'll try not to do it again."
X-Men First Class was good until the last page, as we get a stupid Secret Invasion twist that was not necessary. That half a page preview of FC: Finals was a very pretty poster, though.
Has there been any information released about X-Men: First Class: Finals?
Paul, where did you hear about the title?
House ad in GSXM:FC
And Ken... that line was crap.
Well, with so many Wolverine clones wandering around, it's not hard to imagine that Domino would think that the "grey" version of wolverine would be one of them...
The Knaufs are not brothers : they're father and son.
That is indeed Dazzler.
While I actually like X-force (it's my guilty pleasure) I find the whole Archangel subplot frustrating. The scene where he questions if he can fight Apocalypse's influence had me screaming, "YES! In fact if you want to know how, let me pull out some back issues and I'll tell you how you did it LAST time."
I'm worried that X-Force is becoming "Kyle & Yost re-write 90s X-men stories (that really should just be forgotten)."
*points out that Archangel Mk1 was an 80s plot. Oh, and that he was never prone to that kind of monologuing back then, once he broke free...*
What's been terribly confusing to me is that the first X-Men:SI issue had both Angel AND Archangel in it, so I've been waiting for them to introduce a new Archangel character (it's not uncommon, when a character has a distinctive alternate identity, for some new character to pop up using the one the main character uses less).
It looks instead like that was either a huge writing/editing error, or that Warren's going to be switching back and forth or something, which is a little bit stupid (both the idea that he goes on a mission as Angel, then changes and goes on another as Archangel, and the idea that he's either constantly sprouting new sets of wings or that he's spontaneously sprouted the ability to change his feathers to metal and back). It kind of reads like the writers skimmed the old Archangel stories from the 80s, but didn't actually read them enough to know how his transformation was suppose to work (they also don't seem to realize that the dark blue and purple bodysuit was, in fact, a suit, not part of his skin).
Actually, Warren DID have blue skin. It wasn't until after the Chuck Austin run (!shudder shudder!) that Warren's secondary mutation kicked in and his skin got all caucasion again, and he developed healing blood (??).
No, I mean, as Archangel he looked like Warren with light blue skin and metal wings, and wore a dark blue and purple bodysuit that covered everything but his face (and wings). Without the bodysuit he still looked normal (aside from the blue skin) and even still had blonde hair. But in X-Force, whenever he changes to Archangel, the bodysuit appears out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure they don't realize it was supposed to be clothing, and think his hair went away when he transformed.
I'm less concerned with more X force angst in the form of the returned archangel and more in the recent overuse of the legacy virus in both X Force and SI: X Men. I was of the idea that the 'airborne super cure' that killed colossus makes its reuse or threat to anyone on earth, be they new arrivals or not, a non issue. After all, if it became an airborne 'cure' virus which wrote itself into everyone on the planet, one would need only cough to give the skrulls immunity.
I suppose it makes more sense as a threat in X Force wherein the concern is giving it to the 'evil history villains' such that they could try and alter it. Its history shows that it can be made to kill whoever it wants, so undoing a cure and turning it back into the world's worst HIV metaphor would be at least somewhat legitmate. Or mayhaps I misread the original, relatively poor cure arc which I mostly took as an apology for nigh on 10 years of the nonsense.
As far as 80's and 90's rehash, I'd much rather see Warren switching wings as if they were some insane russian woman puzzle with feathers inside of metal inside of feathers that the legacy virus rearing its groan worthy head again.
Alas, poor Warren. Because being able to actually fly with actual wings just isn't cool enough. Yet again. Sigh...
> No, I mean, as Archangel he looked like Warren with light blue skin and metal wings, and wore a dark blue and purple bodysuit that covered everything but his face (and wings). Without the bodysuit he still looked normal (aside from the blue skin) and even still had blonde hair. But in X-Force, whenever he changes to Archangel, the bodysuit appears out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure they don't realize it was supposed to be clothing, and think his hair went away when he transformed.
Actually, go back and look at the early Archangel, as drawn by Walt Simonson, and you'll see that the "costume" was very much part drawn as part of his skin - the purple on the face even went over his lips! (It wasn't until years later, after he'd been moved back to the X-Men and passed through a bunch of artists, that they started treating it as a costume).
Black Tom, when he was in his plant form, sucked all the blue from Warren's skin while draining him and others (including the Juggernaut). I don't recall if it was their life force or what, but I think it happened in UXM #411-412.
Castlemere was named in WO #29. The man who could transform into a humanoid lion was named in XML #217 -- Mr. Scholl. The woman was not named. The men were apparently plot devices. The platinum blonde may have a role to play in parts 4 & 5, given that she got away.
I suppose that the flashbacks about Xavier and Logan's long-ago chat could fit between the beginning of Mr. Way's section of "X-Men: Original Sin" and the part where Logan wounded Xavier (so Xavier made the X-Men not see his wounds during "Giant-Size X-Men" #1, "First Night", and early XM v.1, #94?).
If so, what Xavier thought he could do in WO #29 and what he was so upset about in XML #217 would mesh.
I was also wondering about Shaw not calling off his hit men since he needs Xavier now -- if they were his hit men. The would-be assassin was dying. If someone had brainwashed the men to believe they were sent by Shaw...
I do wish they'd make up their minds what color suit Xavier was wearing in that flashback scene, whenever it's included. Is it merely the lighting that's responsible for the suit being blue, dark gray, or black?
I do find it interesting that "X-Men: Original Sin revealed that neither Scott nor Emma had told Logan (or any of the others?) that Emma learned about Charles' survival during his psychic battle with Exodus. Why wouldn't they share the good news, hmmm?
Yeah, I thought the original Archangel "costume" was a bio-tech suit type thing grafted to him, similar to Thunderbird's War armour in Exiles.
I'd like to enjoy X-Force more but it is too many notches above ridiculous. I'm picking it up while Mike Choi is on, Clayton Crain's work on the book is too much. It's a rather exciting comic but all of the things Paul pointed out prevent me from enjoying it more. How can they possibly think Archangel is a good idea?
The Uncanny Xmen scribe Fraction revealed recently that yes, the Archangel/Angel scene in SI: Xmen was intentional, and that this dual role played by Warren will bite him in the ass soon...
>>Is it merely the lighting that's responsible for the suit being blue, dark gray, or black?
No, it's the colourist.
Re: Angel and Archangel - I'm pretty sure that, in X-Force, they've revealed that Angel can now change back and forth between Angel and Archangel. Whether or not that's a cool idea is debatable, but at least it explains Angel appearing in both forms over in X-MEN: SI.
Oh, and....
Re: Ghost Boxes - I thought it was interesting how the comic included Ellis' original scripts for the two stories... and after reading them, I still had no idea what was going on.
>>How can they possibly think Archangel is a good idea?
Why not?
>>the supposedly secret team attack the bad guy on a busy public street in full X-Force regalia
That looked more like a plan B with plan A's gone all FUBAR with Archangel a highly unstable factor with civilians at risk. Black ops or not I don't think collateral damage is desirable for Wolverine or Cyclops.
>>we're asked to believe that Wolverine isn't recognisable in his X-Force costume
Who said even Wolverine actually believed that?
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