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No Captain Britain, Paul? Some good stuff there, where it makes the skrulls out to actually be a viable threat.
Although it had a rather weird type of "Muslim support team" on the credits page that seemed to pander rather than be a regular "special thanks to" blurb.
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One wee nitpick Paul, Daniel Knauf is Charlie's dad, not brother 
Inaki Miranda used to draw Judge Dredd a lot when it was in the Metro too, as well as the 2000AD and other stuff.
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06.15.08 - 7:42 pm | #
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On Young X-Men #3:
It could just be me, but ever since Marvel announced that Karma would be playing an important role in this story arc, I've been absolutely terrified at what might be in store for us. I can't help but look at Cyclops' inexplicable behavior, that Karma's former teammates are trying and failing to contact her for help, remember that Xi'an is meant to be in love with the girl that Scott got lost in space last month, and shudder with a sense of impending dread. "Please Marvel, please don't be planning something that monumentally stupid."
And then I look back upon some of the other recent storylines they've chosen to publish, and all hope is lost to me.
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Errata:
The sidebar link to the capsules goes to last week (the non-sidebar links on the Burnout page are right)
If you like throwaway Wolverine stories, then this has been the month of your dreams. On top of his three monthly titles, the last few weeks have already seen the release of two Wolverine one-shots. And now we have X-Force: Ain't No Dog.
[...] Who could possibly have decided that the world needed seven Wolverine comics in a single month?
3+2+1 = 6. Either you missed one in the first paragraph, or the second paragraph is wrong.
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Matt - Karma's meant to be one of the lead characters in the Manifest Destiny thing coming up, along with Mercury, Iceman and a couple of others I can't recall offhand.
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Somebody - Such minor details rarely matter to Marvel authors. I mean, its not like Gugenheim is getting any of the other characters right anyway.
Matt |
06.15.08 - 8:11 pm | #
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Gods reincarnated as ordinary humans is also a plot point in 'Final Crisis'. Is 'The Eternals' this year's 'Identity Disc'?
Mark Clapham |
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06.15.08 - 8:33 pm | #
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They did it ten or twelve years ago with the Asgardians, in "Journey To Mystery."
It's also the original premise for Thor, as well. (etc., probably)
//Oo/\
Matthew Craig |
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06.15.08 - 8:54 pm | #
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I thought Son of Hulk(haven't read it mind you) was spun out of the What If> where Hulk dies but his wife survives.
You know something I've always wondered? What would comics look like if Jack had created the New Gods at Marvel and the Eternals at DC?
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06.15.08 - 9:04 pm | #
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Jason - no, it's set in the MU. There's a ten-page preview here that describes how a woman who was turned to dust could give birth... http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37019
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06.15.08 - 9:26 pm | #
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Eternals does sound a lot like what going on with the new gods right now
Curefreak |
06.16.08 - 3:29 am | #
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I'll change that sidebar when I get home tonight. Thanks. Er, and the adding up to six...
The Muslim consultant list on CAPTAIN BRITAIN #2 is a bit odd, isn't it? I can't see anything in that particular story where her religion would make a difference. I suppose he might just be running all his scripts past a few people in order to avoid inadvertant blunders.
Jason: I imagine that if Kirby had created the New Gods for Marvel, they'd have ended up being filtered through Stan Lee's sensibilities at least to some extent, and so they'd have ended up like the Eternals, the Inhumans, and any number of cosmic Fantastic Four concepts.
Paul O'Brien |
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06.16.08 - 5:27 am | #
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Kirby actually created the New Gods/Fourth World while he was still at Marvel, but kept the idea and characters to himself for several years, precisely because he didn't want any more of Stan Lee's "sensibility." The breaking point came quite visibly on FANTASTIC FOUR at some time in 1967.
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06.16.08 - 7:16 am | #
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I've read a lot of Kirby's later work in the last few years (the 4 Fourth World Omnibus volumes, OMAC, Captain America, Devil Dinosaur, Eternals), and it's rather painfully obvious that, while he was good at coming up with new ideas, he was desperately in need of somebody's "sensibility," whether Stan's or otherwise, to turn those ideas into good comics. Most of the work I named above was rather dire.
JRjr
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06.16.08 - 10:11 am | #
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Cornell mentioned the group in one of his interviews - apparently, they revised Faisa's name to Faiza and made a few other changes. He does run all his scripts by them.
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06.16.08 - 12:35 pm | #
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Jerry Ray's summary of Kirby sounds pretty applicable to Morrison and his current output, to me anyways.
Jacob Zachary Clinton |
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06.16.08 - 1:50 pm | #
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Incidentally, I know you said CB/MI13 wasn't an X-book Paul, but it's listed with the X-books in the solicits here: http://www.comicbookresources.co...rticle&
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06.16.08 - 2:06 pm | #
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Perhaps Cornell keeps the support team around in case Newsarama asks him another ridiculous question about jihads, so they can point out that not everyone is a bit loopy.
Jim |
06.16.08 - 2:10 pm | #
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So Kirby came up with New Gods in 67? When were the Eternals done?
Jason Barnett |
06.16.08 - 3:44 pm | #
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Eternals was created in 1976, five years after New Gods was first published.
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06.16.08 - 4:46 pm | #
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Somebody: Marvel's online catalogue says otherwise, besides which, it's plainly no more an X-book than ALPHA FLIGHT or DAZZLER.
Paul O'Brien |
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06.16.08 - 5:51 pm | #
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I responded to the Usenet version of X-Axis Reviews about Son of Hulk. As that means almost no one will even see it, I'll post it here as well.
It reads like a blatant clone of Planet Hulk without any understanding of why people *liked* Planet Hulk. It goes through the motions, but it is hollow inside.
And it seems to be a bit of a mess. From what I recall, Skaar's mom is narrating the first few pages to his as she is dying? So how does she know that Hulk is going off to avenge her death when she isn't even dead yet?
And how do the bad guys know that Hulk's son is alive? Even his mom didn't know he'd survive. There is no evidence or reason to think he would survive. But here we have a bad guy who is out to kill every kid on the planet until he finds one that shows the stone powers of his mom? So they aren't even looking for Hulk-like powers to confirm Hulk's son? And he sure grows fast for a kid, so how do they even know what to look for to begin with?
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@Mark & Curefreak:
Like Paul said, Gaiman's Eternals miniseries(which is worth checking out) came out almost two years ago. I mostly gave up on DCU proper shortly after 52 ended, so I don't know how similar Gaiman's story is to Morrison's, but I really doubt he was ripping off something that wasn't even out yet.
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06.18.08 - 1:59 pm | #
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Hey Paul -
What's the status of the Index? Any new entries coming soon?
Matt |
06.20.08 - 7:07 pm | #
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I know it's the middle of a story arc, but I really hope that the new ULTIMATE X-MEN gets a full review. That was one of the worst comics I've ever read and if ever a comic deserved to be absolutely shredded...
Ross |
06.21.08 - 2:00 am | #
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Heh. Yeah, the new UXM did make me wonder if Chuck Austen had somehow slipped back into Marvel under a new name.
Suzene |
06.21.08 - 3:41 am | #
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Man I do not get the hate on that issue. I enjoyed it.
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06.21.08 - 12:25 pm | #
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I don't get it either. I didn't find it very good, but it certainly wasn't Austen-level. Heck, it was more entertaining than most of Kirkman's run.
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Obviously, I don't agree on the quality of the writing, but what tipped it into Austen territory for me was was Rogue commenting on her dad molesting her while in the middle of the fight; definitely kicked up memories of Austen's proclivity towards giving characters abusive dads just 'cuz and bringing up sexual/private matters at WTF times.
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06.22.08 - 12:09 am | #
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OK, after re-reading it I would concede that it's not "worst ever" material, but I still maintain that it is very poor. My biggest problem with is the anti-drug stuff which is just laughably bad. The scene with Wolverine is like a hilarious stupid parody of all the athletes who test positive for steroids but then swear up and down that they never took them - someone must have snuck them into their supplements or something. And the closing scene with Colossus and Northstar is just a terrible parody of any random drug overdose scene in stories like this. (And, personally, I also flashed back to that ever-classic SAVED BY THE BELL episode where Jessie got hooked on caffeine pills... though I'm sure that reference is lost on people who didn't grow up in the US in the 80s/90s.)
But aside from those scenes there are other bits of over-the-top stupidity (like Scott pissing himself in the hallway at the opening or Rogue talking about her father "touching" her during a fight) and horribly cliche elements (like Scott deciding to take Banshee during the fight and his reaction to it).
And this isn't a huge problem with the story, but why are the effects of Banshee so seemingly inconsistent? Some people get funky physical mutations and others just get their powers amped way up.
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06.22.08 - 12:23 pm | #
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Kevin: Morrison's take on the New Gods is based on his own SEVEN SOLDIERS: MISTER MIRACLE, which I *think* came out before Gaiman's ETERNALS.
But I don't think whichever of them came first was direct inspiration for the other anyway; gods-living-as-mortals is a popular idea (in fact Marvel is doing it again right now with THOR, which is a lot closer to ETERNALS [the gods-as-humans need to be "awoken" to become their true selves again] than FINAL CRISIS [the gods-as-humans are aware of who they are, and are simply doing their god-thing in new forms]).
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06.22.08 - 3:33 pm | #
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Uh, you never did fix the sidebar. Or "seven"
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06.22.08 - 4:09 pm | #
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Gaiman himself did gods as humans with "American Gods". And Shadow even had to get awakened to his ability.
Billy Bissette |
06.22.08 - 9:57 pm | #
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And this is at least the Marvel Asgardians' second go-round with the concept - the "Lost Gods" was Marvel's attempt to keep the Thor book going when Thor was HRed.
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