Who said "unadjectived" anyway? When people have disambiguated plain X-Men, it's always been the rather saner "adjectiveless" AFAICS.
I could not agree more about Origins. There was absolutely zero plot development and garnered barely any laughs from me. Dillon is a great artist but if he is going to be on Deadpool the book will fall into the same pitfalls as this one did, namely that he is a will be an ill-suited choice for a book of that particular type.
I don't get why Marvel are so high on Way either. His Ghost Rider run was so dull and he dragged each issue out where possible and Origins has been the same. Now arguably the worst writer at Marvel he will get to relaunch Deadpool. But hey if this means that Origins gets cancelled then that is a silver lining on a rather dark and gloomy cloud.
As a lifelong Deadpool fan, I find Way's take just baffling. What are they going to do come next year when Ryan Reynolds played Wade exactly like the Cable/Deadpool version, which is at odds with the psychopath Mask-lite version? Are they going to retcon Way's version or is Way going to attempt to change the writing style a year into it?
I just felt like Reilly and Fabian left the series on such a high note and Way's version takes none of it. In fact, Way's version seems to ignore any Deadpool character development ever. Gone are Joe Kelly's, Priest's, Simone's, or Fabian's additions. We were left with Fabian and Reilly practically making him a hero with a huge, interesting supporting cast.
And now Way will give us Deadpool and his supporting cast: his other personalities. It doesn't make sense and doesn't fit into continuity at all, almost exactly like what they did with Taskmaster after Agent X, bringing him back exactly how he was years before.
Way taking over Deadpool after Nicieza is kind of like Chuck Austin taking over X-Men after Grant Morrison. Yes, you heard it here first, Daniel Way is the new Chuck Austin.
Surely even a fan of Daniel Way has to see that he's grotesquely miscast as the writer for Deadpool? Deadpool's trademark has always been wacky, off-kilter, fourth-wall-breaking humour with a streak of darkness. That's so far outside Way's normal range that Way can't even see it from where he's standing.
C&D got a lovely ending, as massively undeserved endings to surprisingly good series go. It was really quite heartwarming.
I have a rule: anything written by Way is non cannon.
I've followed Deadpool non-stop since his first two limited series. I've had some misgivings with C&D of late (I HATE the supporting cast; Bob is no Blind Al when it comes to interesting kidnap victims of Deadpool, fat Agent X stopped being funny by the end of the issue he was introduced, and the whole lot of them wouldn't survive two minutes in the Hellhouse) That said, this final issue was a lot of fun. I guess Mephisto's Marvel Universe mindwipe doesn't affect those who can get past the fourth wall.
The second part of the Wolverine story was pretty dreadful. I don't necessarily hate the idea that Deadpool is a mental case with hallucinations, but that's something that should've been established in the character's long history, that he simply doesn't perceive the world the way most sane people do. Doing it now seems silly and out of character.
It really is a pity that Nicieza didn't get to write the series he wanted to make. The C&D team always never knew when they were going to be canceled so they had to continually work with that handicap. Add to that the fact that the book's plot was continually interrupted by crossovers and the decision to half-kill Cable leaving Deadpool alone... It's nothing short of a miracle that the book worked as well as it did.
Imagine for a moment that Niceza had been told that he'd get 44 more issues after the first arc and that he could participate in and ignore whatever crossovers he liked. That would have been a masterpiece.
I really hope that we get to see the title characters together again, and I really hope that the developments that both made during the series will be acknowledged by other writers. C&D was the funniest book that Marvel produced over the past few days, but it wasn't just about the laughs.
No - I'm saying it right here, right now, and you're free to take it up with me on my own blog - but I'm over the moon that C&D's been dumped, in favour of a proper, serious writer, taking on a character who, for five years, has been treated as a joke. Deadpool should be treated as a serious character - hero or villain. He's a terminally ill man who agreed to a hugely dangerous attempt to save his life, and it left him hideously, grossly scarred. And for the last five years, Fabian Nicieza, a writer I DESPISE, and am glad Marvel is shot of, has had him cracking jokes like some moron.
I'm eagerly awaiting Daniel Way (a writer, who, by the way, gets an insane amount of abuse for no reason), a proper, serious writer, writing a serious take on an undervalued character, that I hope the filmmakers of the upcoming Wolverine movie take note of.
"You're free to take it up with me on my own blog."
Admittedly, your pitch for raising your site traffic is well-played. Throw in a few pro-Austen comments and you're set.
But this is all what I was talking about last time Deadpool was up for discussion: one series ends abruptly, the next one pitches everything. Why follow it?
This month, Deadpool reached a sort of heroic climax moment. Now, he's back to cold-blooded lunatic. There is no character development here.
Dear Dave,
I do not want a 'proper, serious writer' doing a (spandex) sound and (nick) fury on Deadpool. I want a funny-book. The world has enough 'serious' characters.
Sometimes Rorshach is a disturbing picture of a mentally ill crime fighter and when you look at his ink blot face another way....he's a bad ass.
Besides what qualifies Way as a 'proper, serious writer'? Does he bleed for his art? Is he a rampaging cyclone of 9 panel break downs that spew enlightenment on us poor misguided fools engorged as we are on the rank steaming feces that has been Deadpool....the merc' with the mouth...spawn of Liefeld and Nicieza....
Or is he just a guy who makes me wonder what the hell someone has to do to get Dillon stuck back with Ennis where he belongs.
Dave,
Your desire for more traffic to your blog will not come when you defend a character that has, since he was created, been nothing but a dark comedy figure. Hell, Nicieza was the adopted father of Deadpool when he was created, so if anyone knows what he was supposed to do with the character, he would.
Also, you forget Joe Kelly & Gail Simone's run in making him this tortured soul. Tieri tried to do something along the lines of what you want, and it wasn't very good.
I, for one, am glad that Chuck Austin has made himself a blog. I think it's sweet.
You can't fool us, Chuck! Dave O'Neill indeed!
Sorry, Dave, but Deadpool's been funny (that's funny rather than "a joke") for a lot longer than five years. After all, the Joe Kelly run started in 1997.
Well, the Joe Kelly run was very black comedy, and there was certainly a serious core. But what Daniel Way has actually DONE with Deadpool is a two-issue slapstick fight scene. So even if you think Deadpool should be going in a more serious direction, it's far from obvious that Way is actually going to do that.
At least what he's done with Deadpool, to begin with, is a marked improvment over what Nicieza had reduced him to. I, for one, enjoyed the most recent issues of the book.
Paul: A serious core, to be sure - the whole T-Ray situation, the resolution of "Dead Reckoning" - but at the same time, there was an irrepressible sense of humor throughout the run (ie: giving Kitty Pryde the Shoryuken, saving the universe by kicking Captain America in the nethers). Dave seems to be arguing in favor of Deadpool being taken with the same level of seriousness as... well, Cable.
I suppose the other question is how many would want to read something that primarily focuses on Deadpool as a psychopathic killer who was left disfigured in an attempt to cure a terminal illness. That just sounds relentlessly dark - the sort of grim 'n' gritty stuff that shows up in comics that either want to be (or are parodying) Spawn.
Simple. Move it to the Max Label.
Actually, as a pretty big Way fan, I'm curious why he hasn't had a longer shot at Punisher. Punisher vs. Bullseye was essentially a Bullseye mini.
Also - for all of you wishing Way's unemployment, just so Steve Dillon can "escape" - Dillon and Way have worked together for a while now, so obviously they enjoy working together, and to suggest otherwise is unfair.
I'm sure you're right that Dillon must like working with him. But I think it's a waste of a good artist.
> Simple. Move it to the Max Label.
One question - did you like the recent (current?) MAX Foolkiller mini? I read about half the first issue and... ugh. But it sounds like exactly like what you want from Deadpool.
Fabian Nicieza took three canceled books and got two great titles out of them; Cables and Deadpool, and The New Thunderbolts. Both were well written and interesting and in both cases he was ceremonial kicked to the curb.
In the Thunderbolts case, well, Warren Ellis has been doing really good work, so I've sort of come around on it. In the Cable and Deadpool, I suspect we will get two titles that have less than half the value of what Nicieza was providing.
Maybe I'll be wrong.
So... will the indexes ever be updated again?
Diana, I agree with you in theory, but you're surely not suggesting that Cable is supposed to be taken seriously? 
Kelvin: Only in the context of the X-Men's world - I'll always remember his Suit of Many Pouches. 
Brilliant.
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