i wish i had the answer...but i don't...there will always be a"war"..
no matrer where we live...
believe me,before..... 9-11,
i had a different attitude....
Mojo 
"i wish i had the answer...but i don't...there will always be a"war"..
no matrer where we live...
believe me,before..... 9-11,
i had a different attitude....Mojo"--andrea
That seems a bit like a selfish conclusion andrea...
Before 9/11 you had a different attitude...?
Does this mean that you believed before 9/11 that there would not necessarily always be a "war" or that an attack on the U.S. would never be possible, therefore all of the wars in the other parts of the world never mattered because they never directly effected you ..?
Do you realize that there are many people from around the world who have been living in war zones that are being trained by U.S./Russian/Chinese/Israeli/etc militaries and supplied with manufactured military equipment and weapons from the same countries...?
The weapons industries are huge money making industries so long as there are always wars in the making....
Can't you voice your moronic opinions without trying to put words in somebody else's mouth, Marion?
Your little rant looks like the yapping of a chihuahua to me. Andrea's comment was a lot more clear before you decided to interpret it for her :P
And so long as there are always wars in the making, think about how much in profit the oil industries make from supplying oil to the different militaries and the military industries andrea ....
"Can't you voice your moronic opinions without trying to put words in somebody else's mouth, Marion?"--Craig
The only words I put in andrea's mouth were her own Craig, "in quotes" followed by her name, and my questions, comments, and opinions in response are from my mouth...
andrea is free to respond to my comments, questions, and opinions as she likes with her own words from her own mouth...
Marion you ignorant slut,
That seems a bit like a selfish conclusion andrea...
Before 9/11 you had a different attitude...?
Does this mean that you believed...
Do you realize that there are many people from around the world...
You see the kind of rhetoric you are using there? You redefined her comment for her, from start to finish. So that you could use HER words to come to your own agenda-driven conclusion.
Speak for yourself, nitwit.
Craig,
Yet it is okay when you and others here put words in my mouth, insinuate things about me, and redefine my comments to come to your own agenda-driven conclusion about me...?
Winning Iraqi hearts and minds with money
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2613...6132345/page/2/
Yet it is okay when you and others here put words in my mouth
Nobody does that to you, Marion. You just accuse people of doing all the nasty things you do, yourself. Most of us have gone to great lengths to try to treat you fairly here. But you don't play fair, Marion. You lie. You cheat. You even dispute that you mean the things you clearly DO mean, and when confronted with the evidence that you DEMAND people provide, you ignore it and try to distract everyone from your own stupidity by spamming this blog with copy pasted propaganda.
You, Marion, are the scum of the earth. If I was a Muslim I'd be ashamed to have you as my co-Religionist. This is one Christian who is very grateful you converted to Islam. let Muslims deal with your mental illness. Now, if we could just strip your citizenship and force you to go live in your husband's homeland...
http://vids.myspace.com/
index.cf...ideoid=22112906
Marion, anand is telling me that it is gr9ossly offensive for me to call a "Shia" woman a slut! So, I have to ask you: before you got married, how many men had you slept with? 5 or 6? A dozen? More? I told anand you are 100% American white girl. I suspect you were a young woman in the 1960s, and (obviously) Christian in nothing but name. Virgins were about as common in the US back then as dinosaurs.
Normally, I wouldn't ask this kind of question but anand seems to think I owe an apology. Do I? How many partners would you have had to have before it would be OK for me to call you a slut? And, since you are Shia, what would Shiite Muslims call somebody with that many sexual partners? A prostitute, right? Is slut worse than prostitute? And also, what would happen to you if you got caught having sex with men you weren't married to in Iran? On a related note, do you support stoning?
Myra Adel, Miss Iraq, adds a valuable eyewitness account and she also explains that her trip to Syria is the reason she is stepping down as Miss Iraq 2008: “They have been great to me but I will no longer be involved with the Pageant, due to the fact that I really couldn’t take it when I saw all those refugees in Syria being mistreated…seeing these people suffer made me ashamed….I don’t deserve to live in a classy apartment while other women are selling themselves.”
About 50,000 Iraqi refugee women and girls are being sold for sex. There is a large sex trade in young Iraqi girls in the nightclubs of Damascus. Fourteen- and fifteen-year-olds—literally girls–not even women yet, and even children, are being sold.
Miss Adel is shocked at what she saw in Syria, like the sale of ten-year-old girls. “What kind of sick demented human being would want to have sex with a 10-year-old?” she asks.
Miss Adel is shocked at what she saw in Syria, like the sale of ten-year-old girls. “What kind of sick demented human being would want to have sex with a 10-year-old?” she asks.
the terrible sexual exploitation of women as a result of war is always extremely low on all governmental, political, and military agendas. It is important in so far as others can make money off the women’s bodies and use them for male convenience: but it is not an aspect of war where anyone pays attention to female safety, dignity, and well being at all.
http://www.bestcyrano.org/THOMAS...MASPAINE/?
p=817
The Organization of Women’s Freedom in Iraq (www.equalityiniraq.com), headed by Yanar Mohammed, is a good source for the hardships of women forced into prostitution within the country.
Its okay Craig..
Life with Marion must be
Hell...
and i bet its a guy having
troubles getting a date.
@ IM
those are the stories peacenicks will never hear - and never want to hear.
I mean أحنا نعرف هايه الشغلات
I can recall a story of my mother in the early Seventees about a discussion. The Baathists put like Maosists or Communists all their slogans on the wall in the college and one of the slogans was: Every work is honourful.
One of the professors discussed this slogan at the wall and asked whether a prostitute has also honor because she 'works'. The next day the Baath party sent supporters in the class room to discuss this topic again. The discussion was dominated by them and ended like they want it. They couldn't harm the professor because he was a 'pure Arab' and also a staunch Arabic Nationalist (it was still the Seventies), so they didn't harm but the Baathists couldn't leave the other students with a different attitude about a Baath party slogan.
And this economic theft in Iraq: My aunt tried to buy once in the seventiees a tea glass (stakan), but the only tea glasses were more or less unique, because everyone was broken, the glass was differently thick and the mouth of the glass was sharp like a knife. Why? Because the glass factory was led by an officer.
We have also a friend of our family who was a Faili and a professor in Bagdad. That didn't save him to 'get a travel outside'. يسافروه .
@ IM
those are the stories peacenicks will never hear - and never want to hear.
I mean أحنا نعرف هايه الشغلات
I can recall a story of my mother in the early Seventees about a discussion. The Baathists put like Maosists or Communists all their slogans on the wall in the college and one of the slogans was: Every work is honourful.
One of the professors discussed this slogan at the wall and asked whether a prostitute has also honor because she 'works'. The next day the Baath party sent supporters in the class room to discuss this topic again. The discussion was dominated by them and ended like they want it. They couldn't harm the professor because he was a 'pure Arab' and also a staunch Arabic Nationalist (it was still the Seventies), so they didn't harm but the Baathists couldn't leave the other students with a different attitude about a Baath party slogan.
And this economic theft in Iraq: My aunt tried to buy once in the seventiees a tea glass (stakan), but the only tea glasses were more or less unique, because everyone was broken, the glass was differently thick and the mouth of the glass was sharp like a knife. Why? Because the glass factory was led by an officer.
We have also a friend of our family who was a Faili and a professor in Bagdad. That didn't save him to 'get a travel outside'. يسافروه .
http://www.equalityiniraq.com/in...icles&
Itemid=55
by Yanar Mohammed
Women of Iraq have gradually let go of most of their 20th century gains and privileges in the last 4 years of occupation. Iraq turned from a modern country of educated and working women into a divided land of Islamic and ethnic warlords who compete in cancelling women from the social realm. Millions of women’s destinies are wasted between the destructive US war machine and different kinds of Islamic rule who have turned women into helpless black objects of no will or worth.
After 4 years of “democratizing” Iraq, systemic group rapes of detained women have become a routine procedure to be practiced in police stations and detainment camps. It has also become another ugly face of the atrocious sectarian war where assaulting females of the other sect is considered a political victory and punishment.
In the same time, the occupation unleashed the freedoms of religious legislators to abolish any possibility of constitutional rights for Iraqi women to leave them vulnerable to misogynist religious norms of their clans, thereby committing a new crime of humanity against generations of unsuspecting female citizens to come.
In a time of unprecedented poverty and destitution in Iraq, the oil resources are awarded to foreign companies in generous deals which deprives 25 million Iraqis of a most needed wealth, meanwhile only rewarding a minimal share to the ruling parties to be divided on ethno-religious and sectarian basis. This division, a first timer in Iraq, will only fuel the civil war to higher and deadlier levels.
The occupation forces have chosen to support and empower the enemies of women and freedoms in Iraq. Their relentless efforts of weakening and destroying women of Iraq have hit the highest point of inhumanity and barbarism. Nevertheless, the free women and people of Iraq can organize their ranks and refuse these atrocities. They struggle for freedom and equality to be achieved under a secular non-ethnic government in which the aspirations of women, youth and workers are represented.
OWFI calls on this IWD upon the freedom loving millions around the world to stand by us in this Dark Age of the New World Order.
Craig claims to be a Christian!
Matthew 7:21 (Check it out poser) 
"Marion, anand is telling me that it is gr9ossly offensive for me to call a "Shia" woman a slut! So, I have to ask you: before you got married, how many men had you slept with? 5 or 6? A dozen? More? I told anand you are 100% American white girl. I suspect you were a young woman in the 1960s, and (obviously) Christian in nothing but name. Virgins were about as common in the US back then as dinosaurs....."--Craig
My Craig, you are certainly making some very lowly insinuations about me to add to all of the other numerous lowly accusations such as my being an antisemite, a liar, a cheater, scum of the earth, a retard, a drug addict, a terrorist, a treasonous American, and now an American white girl slut, once again with nothing to back up those insinuations and accusations other than with more insinuations and accusations....
And yet you claim you don't make insinuations and accusations without backing them...?
Claiming you back your insinuations and accusations up by making more insinuations and accusations is not backing them up Craig...
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
So what is your point, DJ?
And by the way, what do you claim to be? An atheist? :P
Yeah, but all the other things I said about you were true, Marion. I honestly don't know about the "slut" accusation. Perhaps you could fill us in? You may not qualify as a "slut" by American standards, but I'm pretty damn sure you do by Arab/Shia standards :D
And you do hold yourself to Arab and Shia standards, do you not Marion? So I ask again, do you support it when Iran stones women for doing what you did?
Minister Opens Fire on Iraqi Students
As the minister entered the center, the students began complaining about the center's very bad conditions: there was no power to run the fans, the temperature was 130 degrees, and there was no water to drink. The students also mentioned to the minster many other problems they were facing which made it very hard for them to take their final exams. Hearing the complaints of the frustrated students, the education minister took out his gun and started shooting real bullets at the students. Simultaneously his body guards started shooting randomly at the students. Scores of innocent Iraqi students were killed and injured in this horrible incident. Brothers and sisters in humanity all over the world, I ask you in the name of whatever you worship or believe in, have you ever heard of something like that ever happening anytime in history? Have you ever heard of an education minister shooting real bullets at unarmed students? I suppose things like that could happen only in the disastrous era of Mr. Bush's externally imposed "democracy" in Iraq. What Mr. Bush imposed on Iraq was a bunch of criminals and ex-cons, and one of them is this so-called Education Minister Khudayer al-Khuza'i.
http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=46...1&p=46331&
s2=10
Have you ever heard of an education minister shooting real bullets at unarmed students? I suppose things like that could happen only in the disastrous era of Mr. Bush's externally imposed "democracy" in Iraq.
Actually, buh, that is not true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Moh...ohammad_Khatami
Khatami was heckled by college students when he was President. There was a brutal crackdown on students immediately afterwards, in which thousands were killed or imprisoned. And that isn't the only time the IRI has brutalized college students in Iran.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/ful...n=&
pagewanted=1
Security forces and vigilantes then stormed a dormitory at Teheran University Thursday night and beat students as they slept, pushing some of them from second- and third-story windows.
buh, why do you link to a website that says it exists to support the "resistance" in Iraq? Just curious!
Do you think anyone here will take that website seriously?
"such as my being an antisemite, a liar, a cheater, scum of the earth, a retard, a drug addict, a terrorist, a treasonous American, and now an American white girl slut"
Accusing Marion of being an American white girl WAS a bit over the top imo.
According to the respected journalist Nir Rosen in the December 2007 edition of the mainstream journal Current History, “Iraq has been killed, never to rise again. The American occupation has been more disastrous than that of the Mongols who sacked Baghdad in the thirteenth century. Only fools talk of solutions now. There is no solution. The only hope is that perhaps the damage can be contained”
Resisting such an evil and illegal invasion and occupation is the moral thing to do.Okay Craig, who claims to be a christian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"According to the respected journalist Nir Rosen in the December 2007 edition of the mainstream journal Current History, “Iraq has been killed, never to rise again."
Respected by a certain subclass of clueless morons that can appreciate his stupidity. Germany and Japan suffered far more devastation in WWll than Iraq has in the last 5 years. They endured 7 years of occupation. And they became two of the wealthiest nations in the world in record time. To claim Iraq is dead,never to rise again,is probably the stupidest statement I've ever read from someone claiming to be a journalist.
Rosin is a peckerhead retard. His fans aren't much sharper.
According to Molly Bingham writing in the Boston Globe, a journalist and a fellow at Harvard University, who spent some time with a group of Resistance fighters in Iraq:
"I met Shia [sic] and Sunnis fighting together, women and men, young and old. I met people from all economic, social, and educational backgrounds…The original impetus for almost all of the individuals I spoke to was a nationalistic one".
In Meeting Resistance, we hear the voices and stories of individuals usually simply referred to, depending on your perspective, as resistance fighters, insurgents or terrorists. During the early years of the war, the Bush administration and the mainstream media said they were comprised of al-Qaeda elements and former Baath Party members still loyal to Saddam Hussein. Today, the attacks on US-led forces are often blamed on Iran and "foreign fighters." But Meeting Resistance suggests that "ordinary Iraqis," men and women, Sunni and Shia, form the bulk of the insurgency, most of them never Baathist, nor were they all religious.
This is how one of the characters interviewed in the film describes the composition of one resistance group.
IRAQI MAN: [translated] This group formed spontaneously under the banner of Islam. They are engineers, officers, teachers, normal people, cultured people. Some have a medium level of education, and some have higher. All of them are committed Muslims who follow the prescribed rights of Islam. Before these events, I didn't pray. I didn't even know my way to the mosque.
Meeting Resistance is directed by acclaimed journalists Molly Bingham and Steve Connors. In a video op-ed for the New York Times published Wednesday, they cite Pentagon reports between 2004 and '07 to claim 74% of attacks by Iraqi insurgents target US-led occupation forces. They also cite a recent BBC/ABC poll which found 100% of Iraqis polled disapproved of attacks on Iraqi civilians. However, a majority of them approved of attacking US troops. One person in the film clarifies who legitimate targets of the Iraqi resistance should be.
IRAQI MAN: [translated] First on the list of all legitimate targets are the military forces in Iraq. Those are the most important. The second most important are those who collaborate with them. There are some translators who try to help the people, and their job is just to explain the situation, but there are other translators who harm the people. There are policemen who do police's job, like chasing gangs, providing order and security. We leave them alone. But there are police who are collaborating with the Americans. As I told you, the American forces, the occupying forces and their collaborators that work against the Iraqi people and against the Mujahideen, they are our legitimate targets. I hope America will send more forces, and we will send them back home in coffins.
Experts suggest the growing sectarian strife in Iraq has turned into a civil war. In Meeting Resistance, the characters are both Sunni an
buh,you do have a screw loose if you think I'd settle for Craig's leftovers. That helps explain your lack of spincter control though. And maybe your crush on sir Rosen as well...
Iraqi Mojo, That was really heartbreaking but so interesting to read. You ought to collect all of these family stories and put together a book.
Maury and Craig are straight (I think.)
Please ask Molly Bingham how come the former "resistance" has killed three times as many Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police and MNF. Please ask Molly Bingham why her "resistance" violently attacking the legally elected Iraqi government and political parties that are running in Iraqi elections. Why didn't her "resistance" nonviolently try to peacefully persuade Iraqi voters to vote for the candidates that they support?
BTW, as you know Buh, attacks on the Iraqi army, Iraqi police and GoI (gov of Iraq) are down sharply. The GoI, IA and IP have won. Why are you talking about a war that is over?
Yeah,I'm straight anand. buh gets these fantasies from time to time. I doubt he hopes for a literal pounding from behind though. We just like to bend him over...figuratively speaking.
Iraq, China to sign revived $1.7b oil deal
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/
sectio...jectid=10526474
"Zebari said Abdullah's arrival showed that Arab nations were recognizing that Iraq is "starting to rise again."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....ld/
5937733.html
What a coincidence. buh was just trumpeting some clown that claimed Iraq would NEVER rise again.
So, buh is DJ? And how about all the other type-in-names? Also DJ?
"Besides the terrible killings inflicted by the fanatics on those who refuse to pledge allegiance to them, Al-Qa'eda has lost credibility for enforcing a series of rules imposing their way of thought on the most mundane aspects of everyday life.
They include a ban on women buying suggestively-shaped vegetables, according to one tribal leader in the western province of Anbar.
Sheikh Hameed al-Hayyes, a Sunni elder, told Reuters: "They even killed female goats because their private parts were not covered and their tails were pointed upward, which they said was haram."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...-
brutality.html
If buh is DJ,he/she/it must be a hermaphrodite.
KABUL (AFP) — Pakistan's intelligence agency is helping the Taliban to pursue an insurgency in Afghanistan that has seen a 50 percent hike in attacks in some areas this year, the NATO commander here told AFP
http://afp.google.com/article/
AL...Uclt2H_nsCymvSw
Why don't they just mine the border?
If buh is DJ,he/she/it must be a hermaphrodite.
That's right. Posted as "Craig's boyfriend" a few times, and then "an outraged woman" a little while later! Serious identity crisis going on with that one :o
[anand] "Maury and Craig are straight (I think.)"
I doubt it. What with them getting all sweaty and excited about hermaphrodites and "pounding from behind", I'd say that it's probable they are not.
(And your comment makes it obvious that you're not sure either.)
Craig for sure not.
There's a special "marine" indoctrination that requires group ... well, let's not go there. Suffice to say that they "bond" really well.
"I hope America will send more forces, and we will send them back home in coffins."
,,, thereby accounting for the Iraqis that don't want the US to leave just yet, but DO oppose the occupation.
"Iraqi Mojo, That was really heartbreaking but so interesting to read. You ought to collect all of these family stories and put together a book."
Thank you vza! When I have more time, I will put together a book.
I doubt it. What with them getting all sweaty and excited about hermaphrodites and "pounding from behind", I'd say that it's probable they are not.
You're the one who seems to have such a hardon for this transgender homosexual rape victim troll we've got here, Bruno. I want he/she/it to vacate the premises. Having a little issue with "projection", are we? :P
,,, thereby accounting for the Iraqis that don't want the US to leave just yet, but DO oppose the occupation.
You having more flashbacks to the glory days when your heroes weren't moldering corpses, Bruno? What year is it in your mind right now?
A leftist (living in Central America, I believe) named Moyhabin thinks I am trying to sabotage the "Angry Arab Comments" blog.
Moy wrote: "So in all honesty, why do you hang around this blog so much? "
Me: "To vent my Anger - I am an Angry Arab. To add some background to statements like "Iraqis were better off under Saddam Hussein". To counter the lies of Layla Anwar. To ask Yasmin what she thinks of all the Starbucks in Jordan, KSA, Qatar, and Dubai when she slams Starbucks.
I am here to remind people of what Saddam's regime did to Iraqis, cuz you know Arabs don't seem to know. Or maybe you don't know.
I am here to ask why the fvck Arabs blow up Iraqis for cooperating with the infidel occupier when US bases are scattered throughout the Arab world. The US CENTCOM is in Doha for Allah's sake. Yet no car bombs in Doha and Arabs go to Iraq and commit mass murder in the name of fighting the infidel occupier.
Arabs hate Iraqis for doing big business with western oil companies as Exxon Mobil signs a huge contract with Qatar. I am here to disseminate this information, to point out this hypocrisy, cuz you don't seem to give a fvck.
I am here to remind people that insurgents & criminals have murdered many times more Iraqis than US soldiers. This doesn't seem to Anger my Arab brothers. Suicide bombings don't seem to illicit much Anger from leftists.
I am here because I like to be. It is my current addiction. If I am not welcome by either host, she can ask me to leave."
Iraqi Mojo | Homepage | 08.11.08 - 4:28 pm | #
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...44977995/
#17913
For the post: http://angryarabscommentsection....why-
trolls.html
Thanks Bridget for this:
Iraq's Budget Surplus Scandal
Why do we have such a hard time hearing good news from Baghdad?
By Christopher Hitchens
Updated Monday, Aug. 11, 2008, at 6:53 AM ET
"Yes indeed, Iraq should pay for its own reconstruction. But, just before we all join hands on this obvious proposition, may we take a moment to apologize to Paul Wolfowitz? Of all the many slanders hurled at this advocate for Iraq's liberation, probably none was more gleefully bandied about than his congressional testimony that Iraq's recovery from decades of war and fascism could be self-financing. Now the opponents of the intervention are yelling that Iraq ought to be opening its bulging wallet right away.
There will be time enough for that to happen, since Iraq's vast resources are back in the hands of its own people and are no longer "privatized" as the personal property of a psychopathic crime family. Sen. Levin, who with Sen. John Warner, R-Va., requested the original report from the Government Accountability Office on Iraq's finances, was the ranking Democrat on the Senate subcommittee investigating the "oil for food" outrage. He knows perfectly well what used to happen to Iraq's oil wealth, which was prostituted through a U.N. program and diverted to such noble causes as the subsidy of suicide bombers in Gaza and the financing of pro-Saddam and "anti-war" politicians in London, Paris, and Moscow. While this criminal enrichment of Iraqi and overseas elites was taking place, the population of the country was living on garbage and drinking tainted water as a result of the U.N.-mandated international sanctions.
I think we should be glad that the luridly sadistic and aggressive Saddam Hussein regime is no longer in power to be the beneficiary of the rise in oil prices and thus able to share its wealth with the terrorists, crooks, and demagogues on its secret payroll. I think we should also be glad that its private ownership of Iraq's armed forces, and its control over a party monopoly called the Baath, has been irrecoverably smashed. Iraq's resources are no longer at the disposal of an aggressive, parasitic oligarchy. Its retrained and re-equipped army is being deployed, not in wars of invasion against its neighbors and genocide against its inhabitants, but in cleanup campaigns against al-Qaida and the Mahdi Army. An improvement. A distinct improvement.
http://www.slate.com/id/2197007/
I couldn't believe it when I first read that the democraphobes saw the budget surplus as a bad thing! There is nothing the nay-sayers wont spin out with their battle hardened Newspeak to "prove" the U.S. cannot help Iraq toward democracy and prosperity.
I am glad Hitchens addressed this.
May we take a moment to apologize to Paul Wolfowitz?
"I am here to remind people of what Saddam's regime did to Iraqis, cuz you know Arabs don't seem to know. "
What would he be doing to Iraqis today? Would professors still be making a dollar a day? Would Uday be torturing the Olympic team? Would electricity still be limited to Baghdad? Would Iraq have a massive surplus,or would Sadman be financing another war against another neighbor? Arabs should be celebrating a new Iraq. An Iraq without the oppressive veil of fear that permeated society. An Iraq where people can crack a joke about the leaders and not be tortured and killed for it.
India won its first individual Olympic gold....ever. Togo won its first Olympic medal ever. China is dominating in gold medals so far. Is South Africa even at the Olympics?
http://news.google.com/news?q=so...snum=2&
ct=title
Is part of the reason Bruno is so angry because of South Africa's poor performance in sports? South Africa use to be a powerhouse in Cricket. The key phrase is "USE TO BE."
The sluggish South African economy, depressed South African stock market, and poor performance of Mbeke's quisling Mugabe might add to the frustration.
Or perhaps the reason Bruno is so angry is because South Africa has more AIDs and HIV patients than any other country. Maybe another reason is that South Africa is more violent than Iraq. (1500 violent deaths a month.)
Don’t worry Bruno, all is not lost. Iraq has a budget surplus now. Maybe if the South Africans are nice to Iraqis, Iraq will bail South Africa out and help South Africans address their many problems.
"Yeah, but all the other things I said about you were true, Marion."--Craig
When you can't honestly debate issues with those you disagree with, you can always resort to attacking the messenger and than claiming all of the things you have been saying in your attacks are somehow true...
These are the signs of a weak debater...
These are the signs of a weak debater...
I guess you would know! It was when you started insulting me that I decided to stop trying to have rational discussions with you :D
Marion on Angry Arab Comments: "Mojo also hasn't commented much on how I have been relentlessly attacked on his blog, therefore I am assuming that he approves of it...."
Me: "Marion, I haven't even read your exchanges with Craig and others. I read only the comments you address to me. Usually I don't get involved in comments unless somebody asks me a question or engages me in conversation, and even then sometimes I'll miss it. I don't like to see Craig calling you names, no, but it is not prohibited on my blog."
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...17052199/
#18295
Mojo, Marion was calling everybody who posts here ‘Jews’ the other day. Did she tattle on Craig? Marion, did you go and tattle to Mojo on Craig?
"Mojo, Marion was calling everybody who posts here ‘Jews’ the other day. Did she tattle on Craig? Marion, did you go and tattle to Mojo on Craig?"--Aton the Sun God
Why don't you back up your allegations of me calling "everybody who posts here ‘Jews’ the other day" first anton....?
Marion, like Mojo and Anand, I don't think Craig should call you names either. It doesn't add to the debate.
Why don't you back up your allegations of me calling "everybody who posts here ‘Jews’ the other day" first anton....?
Marion, you called me a "Jew" a year ago. Why are you such a whiner? You got away with insulting everyone else and not getting insulted back for a LONG time. Primarily because these people you not criticize for not defending you (Mojo and Anand) asked everyone to be nice to you. Enough.
K,
Marion, like Mojo and Anand, I don't think Craig should call you names either. It doesn't add to the debate.
I agree. But I've decided not to try to engage Marion in debate, anymore. It's pointless.
Mojo, thanks for continuing to tell the stories from Saddam's Iraq. It is important that they not be forgotten. Like Vza I hope someday you will publish them all together in a book. Thanks also for reprinting Christopher Hitchens' piece on Iraq's surplus. Why the good news from Iraq does not get better circulation is an interesting question. Can only speculate that the Media had pretty much only bad news from Iraq so long they adopated the Iraq War is a failure line and are now reluctant to change it.
Here is another sign of progress in Iraq's rebuilding from today's (Wednesday's) Washington Post about the re-establishment of the Iraqi Air Force. Google in qoutes, the headline; "Rebuilding an Air Force from the Ground Up" and click on first entry to link to the entire story.
"Marion, you called me a "Jew" a year ago. Why are you such a whiner? You got away with insulting everyone else and not getting insulted back for a LONG time."--Craig
I called you a "Jew" a year ago...?
I wasn't even posting here a year ago Craig and I don't know what the hell you are talking about....
Why are you such a whiner accusing me of things which I never called you...?
I appreciate K, anand, and Mojo's expressed disapproval of Craig's name calling...
Marion, you're a liar. Enough.
"I agree. But I've decided not to try to engage Marion in debate, anymore. It's pointless." -Craig
You might be right Craig, perhaps it is pointless. I definitely have trouble understanding her copious evasions of logic. But it's not just about debating Marion directly and changing her mind. You are on display here and how you treat her and others is witnessed by many, who may not be commenting here but, who pay close attention to how we treat those with whom we do not agree.
I understand the frustration. As you know I have been victim of my share of abusive goading too and sometimes the only apparent recourse is anger and defensive insults. Just don't let it take you over, and more importantly, don't let it sap the quality of Mojo's fine blog.
If you are fed up with Marion, just don't talk to her.
Mearsheimer, Avnery and Others Offer Advice to Administration
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/Au...08/ 0808061.html
I have some advice for the administration too! They should recoke Marion's citizenship and deport her to Lebanon.
(You did get Lebanese citizenship when you married your husband, right Marion?)
Craig,
I understand how you can get frustrated with someone like Marion...given her belief system, its destined to happen if you are someone who posesses the ability to think clearly.
But I agree with Anand and K...you have gone a little too far. Try and relax, and the best thing to do is to simply ignore her. There are plenty of other people here to debate with, many of whom are open to different viewpoints
There are many blogs out there where it is VERY hard not to lose your temper, I for one understand Craig...but you can't let the stress get to you, otherwise, they win!
[craig] "They should recoke Marion's citizenship and deport her to Lebanon."
Yes, because making a fool of CRAIG THE MIGHTY in public debate is punishable as an ACT OF TREASON ....
Craig, don't listen to CH. He doesn't know what he's talking about. You should lose your temper and rant like a little baby.
Then, the rest of us can snigger at you.
Yeah, right Bruno. I suppose you are unaware that Marion was over on another blog begging Mojo and Anand to do something about me, eh? :D
You sound tense, Craig. Take an aspirin.
A month ago Allan Wolper interviewed a guy named Matthew Bogdanos who talked about how the stolen artifacts from the Iraq museum fund terror cells.
You can still find it here http://wbgo.org/ontheair/2007/wolper.php
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