"Nobody will complain about this. "--Mojo
Of course not Mojo, because China didn't preemptively attack, invade, to be followed by occupying Iraq...
INTERESTING EXCERPT:
"... "We have held talks with (the Chinese) for a year, and the terms of the deal were changed to a service contract. The Chinese have agreed on that, with a value of $1.2 billion," Shahristani told the an-Noor newspaper.
If finalised, the revised deal would be the first oil service contract signed by the new Iraqi government since the fall of Saddam in 2003.
Iraq has said in the past that it would honour the original Saddam-era deal in principle but wanted to renegotiate terms.
The original deal, valued at $670 million at a time when oil prices were much lower than today, would have given the Chinese a long term production-sharing stake in the Ahdab oil field, a small field projected to produce 90,000 barrels per day.
Foreign oil companies are seen as much keener on production sharing deals, which would give them a stake in future oil profits, rather than service contracts in which they are paid a fee for carrying out work on behalf of Iraq. ..."
Let's wait and see if the Iraqi Oil Ministry will negotiate service contracts as opposed to production sharing contracts with U.S. or Western based oil companies and whether they like China will agree...
Good thing the occupier allows the Iraqi govt to negotiate with whomever.
"Let's wait and see if the Iraqi Oil Ministry will negotiate service contracts as opposed to production sharing contracts with U.S. or Western based oil companies"
And what if the Iraqis negotiate PSAs with western oil companies? Will our Arab "brothers" blow up another Baghdadi market? Will you blame it on the US occupation?
Two conspiracy theorists die and go to heaven. At havens gates God says “look guys, man did land on the moon, JFK was shot by a single person, and 9-11 was perpetrated by 19 Arab terrorists.” One of the conspiracy theorists looks at the other and says, “This really does go to the top.” Bada bing2.
"Of course not Mojo, because China didn't preemptively attack, invade, to be followed by occupying Iraq... "
Three countries in particular opposed changing the status quo in Iraq. Each of them...China,France,and Russia,had oil contracts with Sadman. The three of them supplied Iraq with over 90% of the arms Sadman used in the two wars he started. China,France,and Russia sold out the Iraqi people. For them to be rewarded with contracts for anything whatsoever is a travesty. True,those contracts can't go to American companies. America's role in Iraq to pay,pay,and then pay some more. And when we're broke,we can always borrow more at loan shark rates and pay some more. Shame on us for daring to change the status quo.
"Good thing the occupier allows the Iraqi govt to negotiate with whomever."--Iraqi Mojo
Why do you feel you have to credit the occupier for allowing the Iraqi govt to negotiate with whomever Mojo?
Because the US could force Iraq to do business with American oil companies. Because the US could steal the oil like so many leftist and Arab schmucks have claimed. But the US hasn't done that because the US is fair, unlike our Arab "brothers".
Sometimes it's hard to believe that Marion is really American.
"Let's wait and see if the Iraqi Oil Ministry will negotiate service contracts as opposed to production sharing contracts with U.S. or Western based oil companies"--Marion
"And what if the Iraqis negotiate PSAs with western oil companies? Will our Arab "brothers" blow up another Baghdadi market? Will you blame it on the US occupation?"--Iraqi Mojo
Why do you feel you have to predict that the Arab "brothers" will blow up another Baghdadi market if the Iraqis negotiate PSAs with western oil companies Mojo? Or that I will blame it on the US occupation?
You blame everything on the US occupation, Marion. Our Arab "brothers" have blown up Baghdadi markets for all kinds of silly reasons. It's what our Arab "brothers" do best.
"Let's wait and see if the Iraqi Oil Ministry will negotiate service contracts as opposed to production sharing contracts with U.S. or Western based oil companies "
Total is a "Western based oil company" Marion,yet France took just as much of Sadman's money as Russia and China. France did everything possible to save Sadman. Why shouldn't Total be rewarded for those efforts?
"Three countries in particular opposed changing the status quo in Iraq. Each of them...China,France,and Russia,had oil contracts with Sadman. The three of them supplied Iraq with over 90% of the arms Sadman used in the two wars he started."
Might these revelations mean that the U.S. Neocon orchestrated preemptive attack and invasion of Iraq was in reality a proxy war against Chinese, French, and Russian oil and arms dealer interests Maury?
"Might these revelations mean that the U.S. Neocon orchestrated preemptive attack and invasion of Iraq was in reality a proxy war against Chinese, French, and Russian oil and arms dealer interests Maury?"
Not at all Marion. You see,the plan all along was to reward those countries for supporting Sadman. That's why they're getting the contracts and we're not. It would have been awkward to simply transfer billions in gold bullion to Russia,France,and China. It's much easier to throw open Iraq's vault and let them have all they want.
"Why do you feel you have to credit the occupier for allowing the Iraqi govt to negotiate with whomever Mojo?"--Marion
"Because the US could force Iraq to do business with American oil companies. Because the US could steal the oil like so many leftist and Arab schmucks have claimed."--Mojo
Well don't you think that if the U.S openly did such a thing it would not look good for them and their claimed moral high ground in illegally preemptively attacking and invading Iraq?
And we have yet to see the entire picture of what the U.S. is actually doing in Iraq. I don't think that the entire picture will be revealed until long after the occupation ends...
"But the US hasn't done that because the US is fair, unlike our Arab "brothers"."--Mojo
Has the U.S. in your mind been fair in regards to the Israeli/Palestinian and Israeli/Arab conflicts Mojo?
This post is not about Israel or Palestine.
"Insurgents have made a habit of attacking the oil infrastructure; the recent rise in output is due chiefly to improved security. In particular, the United States has paid for a project to reduce sabotage to a pipeline that links the Kirkuk oilfield, one of the country’s biggest, to the main outlets for exports—ports in the south and a pipeline north to Turkey. The Kirkuk-Baiji pipeline (see map) is now protected on either side by a ditch, a dirt barrier, a fence topped with razor wire, and three more rolls of razor wire on the ground. There are two guardhouses at every road crossing; the government has recruited local tribesmen suspected of mounting many past attacks to man them and conduct patrols. Oil has flowed freely since the construction of these defences began last summer. The American army says that, as a result, exports in the 11 months to May went up by 91m barrels, worth an extra $8.2 billion."
http://www.economist.com/world/
m...ory_id=11921647
Marion, how come every time somebody answers one of your silly questions you ask two more silly questions? I bet you drove your teachers crazy. Did they still have the "dunce cap" back in your day? Probably not. And that's a shame.
"Nobody will complain about this. "--Mojo
Wrong again! :P
"In particular, the United States has paid for a project to reduce sabotage to a pipeline that links the Kirkuk oilfield,"
Like I said before Mojo,our responsibility is to pay out the ass. Never mind if the money ends up enriching countries that supported Sadman. Better to screw American taxpayers than hear the "war for oil" crowd crow over a plugged nickle falling back into American hands.
Even more ironic that the US is borrowing from China to finance its debt.
I asked Mojo:
Mojo stated:
"But the US hasn't done that because the US is fair, unlike our Arab "brothers"."--Mojo
In response, I asked Mojo:
"Has the U.S. in your mind been fair in regards to the Israeli/Palestinian and Israeli/Arab conflicts Mojo?"--Marion
Mojo decided to duck the question even though it does apply to his remark:
"This post is not about Israel or Palestine."--Iraqi Mojo
It is about your remark comparing the U.S.'s fairness to the Arab "brothers" fairness, therefore the U.S. fairness in regards to the Palestinian Arabs and the Arabs conflicts with Israel does logically apply here Mojo.....
Marion, my posts about Palestine and Israel are here:
http://iraqimojo.blogspot.com/se...rch?
q=palestine
http://iraqimojo.blogspot.com/se...search?
q=israel
You should already know how I feel about the US relationship with Israel & Palestine. Of course I don't think it's fair.
Marion, did you ever read the Yahoo Message boards? I used to post there all the time and I defended Palestine there, fought with many zionists and got taught a few people some things, and I learned a lot too. Palestinians have been screwed, I've always said so. So isn't it ironic that I get shit on by my Arab brothers just because I hate Saddam Hussein and I hate people who love him?
I remember a few people on those message boards wondered how I could be anti Saddam and pro Palestinian at the same time. I remember one guy, a strong supporter of the Kurds and Shia to overthrow Saddam, was against giving any part of Jerusalem to the Palestinians. Israel would never do it, he said, and it's their right. I called bullshit on him, and I will continue to call bullshit on all such injustice.
Another guy on the boards was a neo nazi who was amazed that I criticized him when he generalized about Jews, and to this day I remember he asked me "what kind of Arab are you??"
Another thing I remember about the message boards: the Iraq board had around 12,000 posts in it, and it was often dead until 2003. The Israel-Palestine board had hundreds of thousands of posts and was VERY active, with hundreds of posts a day.
Aton the Sun God: "This really does go to the top".
Great story, Really LOL!!
Sums up the Conspiracy Mentality perfectly.
Iraqi Mojo: "Another guy on the boards was a neo nazi who was amazed that I criticized him when he generalized about Jews, and to this day I remember he asked me, 'What kind of Arab are you??'"
Obviously one who does not hate Jews!
"Sometimes it's hard to believe that Marion is really American."
...it's even more amazing that she is Shia and is against the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
"Sometimes it's hard to believe that Marion is really American."--Mojo
Why? Is it because you think that all Americans should be pro-Neocon, blind patriots like you all?
"...it's even more amazing that she is Shia and is against the overthrow of Saddam Hussein."--C.H.
I am not against the overthrow of Saddam C.H., I am against the Neocon orchestrated preemptive attack, invasion, and occupation of Iraq based on false evidence, which despite what you all claim was illegal under international laws...
I would have wholeheartedly supported the Iraqi people overthrowing Saddam....
"I would have wholeheartedly supported the Iraqi people overthrowing Saddam...."
You should definitely call those Iraqi's and tell them to put their chains back on Marion. They're illegally free,so I'm sure they'll jump right on it. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died opposing Sadman Marion. Apparently,you don't think that was near enough.
"Why? Is it because you think that all Americans should be pro-Neocon, blind patriots like you all?"
I would have expected an American to recognize at least some of the good America has done in Iraq. I would have expected an American to not support the 'resistance' that murders Americans just for being American.
"I would have wholeheartedly supported the Iraqi people overthrowing Saddam...."
That is very hard to believe. What were you doing in 2002, Marion?
With friends like Marion and our Arab "brothers", Iraqis need no enemies.
Talks continue for Iraq oil service deal-BP exec
By Simon Webb
DUBAI, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Talks between Iraq and BP (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) are ongoing for a short-term oil service contract, a senior BP executive said on Wednesday, after a U.S. diplomat in Baghdad cast doubt on such deals earlier this week.
Iraq and major international oil companies have been negotiating six short-term technical service contracts, each worth about $500 million and targeting a 100,000 bpd increase in output from six of Iraq's biggest oilfields.
"As far as we are concerned, negotiations continue over the technical service contract," Steve Peacock, president of BP's Middle East and South Asia exploration and production unit, told Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/
r...K70807820080820
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