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"I do not agree with him saying ' We believe that the salvation of Iraq begins with the adoption of the armed resistance and struggle against the forces of the occupation." "
Then tell us oh great Mojo, what is the solution?
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Peace is the solution. When Iraqis stop murdering each other, when suicide bombers are kept out of Iraq, and when attacks on US troops stop, there will be peace, and then US troops will go home on their own.
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and then US troops will go home on their own
We're going to go home "on our own" soon, anyway. Ready or not.
But maybe we should destroy the Mahdi Army and kill al-Sadr, before we do. How else to treat somebody who has such high regard for a murdering terrorist like Hassan Nasrallah? We've had Lebanese nationals who raised money in the US for Hezbollah sentenced to over 100 years in prison, here in America. Supporting terrorism is a crime, and if the Mahdi Army is allied with Hezbollah, it's a terrorist group.
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[Craig]"But maybe we should destroy the Mahdi Army and kill al-Sadr, before we do. How else to treat somebody who has such high regard for a murdering terrorist like Hassan Nasrallah?"
APPLAAAAUUUD, APPLAAAAUUUD, APPLAAAUUD...etc.
Is this the kind of democracy u want to impose in Iraq? Is this the way u want us to treat people? Kill them bcs they have a point of view DIFFERENT than yours! While u & your like criticise us Iraqis day & night for so-said "killing each other", "violent", & "intolerant" or "hate each other".
But why in this case u r no different. Right?
No Craig, I think that the sooner u & your Army leave my country the better.
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Saad,
Is this the kind of democracy u want to impose in Iraq?
What in the world makes you think I care about Democracy in Iraq? Why should I? Iraqis don't care about Democracy in Iraq.
Is this the way u want us to treat people? Kill them bcs they have a point of view DIFFERENT than yours!
Kill them because they are enemies. You bet your ass. I happen to be a big fan of dead enemies. That's the best kind.
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Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, Rox!~!
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Saad,
No Craig, I think that the sooner u & your Army leave my country the better.
Of course we can't leave your country until we have killed the maximum number of bad guys. Same for AfghanShia's country. You can see how much he wants to get killed, can't you?
And then, God willing, we can go to Lebanon, and kill all the people who deserve to die, there. Either before or after we clean up Iran. It's a dirty job, but somebody has got to kill all these vermin for you. It's for your own good. Really.
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We will take care of these bastards. We do not need YOU to do that for us no less than we needed u in the first place when u invaded my country without asking our permission. Speaking of politeness, this is not polite. Or should it be?
U came to Iraq to control the oil against OPEC & against all the other OPEC main producers like your ennemy Chavez of Venezuela & Iran. U also FOOLISHLY thought that it is just a question of armed intervention & PRESTO! The dice is thrown on your behalf, & Iraq with all its wealth & influence is in your pockets.
Well it didn't turn out that way. & u had to ignite a civil war between the people's composants to keep them at bay >> Conquer & divide, to stay as long as possible in the country. If God is really willing then i don't think it is him who is deciding how many of your national bastards (Ooops sorry, I guess I'm impolite here. Oooh never mind, Right?) r to be sent daily to hell.
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Saad,
If God is really willing then i don't think it is him who is deciding how many of your national bastards (Ooops sorry, I guess I'm impolite here. Oooh never mind, Right?) r to be sent daily to hell.
Don't worry about us. When we run out of bastards (which will take about 1000 years at the current rate) we'll send more. Here's a complimentary video from the United States of America:
"Open Season" - Stuck Mojo
Makes a good point, and I like the "Mojo" tie in for this blog, too 
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IA you wrote,
"Peace is the solution. When Iraqis stop murdering each other, when suicide bombers are kept out of Iraq, and when attacks on US troops stop, there will be peace, and then US troops will go home on their own."
So you are saying you want Iraq to be another Saudi Arabia?
The puppets of Saudi Arabia have a brutal but pro_American regime. This is what is in store for Iraq if the American stay. They will only leave when they are sure they have a firm grip on Iraq.
On the bright side at least Iraqis will stop killing each other.
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You realize that if America were to leave today, the Sunnis would stand absolutely no chance with the coming storm? I don't like their presence in Iraq, but I find it sort of ironic that you would as they are literally the iron curtain that is separating the Sunnis in Baghdad with Sunnis in the graveyard. Right?
And as you had suggested before, let me end with a complimentary: 'Thank you, Bouwsh!!!!!'
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" You realize that if America were to leave today, the Sunnis would stand absolutely no chance with the coming storm? I don't like their presence in Iraq, but I find it sort of ironic that you would as they are literally the iron curtain that is separating the Sunnis in Baghdad with Sunnis in the graveyard. Right?
And as you had suggested before, let me end with a complimentary: 'Thank you, Bouwsh!!!!!'
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I do not wish death on nobody. I have nothing against the Shias.
Having said that, if anyone, ANYONE is killing innoccents because of sect, then these people are pathetic loosers. Do not run from pathetic loosers, and do not depend on ANYONE (including the Americans) but God to get rid of them.
You do realize the battle of the khandaq do you? You do realize Badr do you, where they were outnumbered 3 to 1?
I dont go by odds or probability. Fear noone but God.
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That's why America cannot leave today. As long as Anbar is part of Iraq, Sunni Arabs will live in Iraq. There are mixed neighborhoods all over Baghdad.
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But the US will withdraw from Iraq eventually. Two years from now it will be very different.
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Hmm....baby killers led by former Baathists and evil Wahabis vs. popular committees led Badr and Mahdi forces and established by clerics? Khandaq you say? Battle of Badr? Perhaps you should remind yourself of the Battle of Camel.
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"Hmm....baby killers led by former Baathists and evil Wahabis vs. popular committees led Badr and Mahdi forces and established by clerics? Khandaq you say? Battle of Badr? Perhaps you should remind yourself of the Battle of Camel.
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Any "Baby Killer" is a criminal, a terrorist, the scum of the Earth.
If you have any Militia killing innocents then that is who you should "vs.". Even if it is "popular commitees" commiting crimes.
Again I presented to you with battles in history that you should take as an example, and not make fun of by saying battle of the "camel".
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ooo your referrign to the battle that was between the allies of Aisha and Ali.
Bro you really need to get over somethign that happened more than 1000 years ago.
Your backwards and behind. It's the 21's century.
Stop obssessing over hatred. You should really stay away from those who hatea people for no reason other than the history of their great great great great x100 great ancestors .
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For any non-Muslim reader I would like to ask you a question:
If you believed in a prophet, would you literally boast and get happy that a group of people ALMOST KILLEd the wife of the prophet Aisha?
SICK SICK CULT (by cult im not referring to Shias, just the ones who obsess over death and curse the companions of the prophet in their prayers)
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AFGHAN SHIA, I want you to read What Ali had to say about Aisha after the battle:
Ayisha bid farewell to the people saying: "My children, we should not have any grief towards one another. By Allah, there was nothing between me and Ali in the past except that which is usually between a woman and her son in-law. He is one of the people of good." Ali then said: "It is true that there was nothing between me and her, except what she mentioned and she is the wife of your Prophet (SAWS) in this life and the Hereafter."
So there we go, This is proof that Ali (RA) had made peace with Aisha, and even reminded everyoen she is the prophets wife even in the hereafter
and unlike you did not obsess over blood and revenge. You and your sick cult do not represent sayidna Ali.
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Dude, how stupid are you? Battle of Camels was probably the culmination of the pre-Makkan elite that usurped power that was RELEGATED TO THE POOR (PROLETARIATE) BY ALLAH SUBHANA WATALA.
Az Zubair, Ibn Talha, Aisha, Mauwiyah...they were ALL against the righteous Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib alahis salam. I said that because they are the Sunnis of today, that fight against the righteous momen. When Aisha was heading leading her army of theives and crooks, she was on a camel alone, and before she reached the scene of battle (after Imam Ali had warned her, several times that they would lose)...she saw a dog. This dog, upon seeing Aisha became rabid and started barking and made her camel scared and it sat down and Aisha got off, turning backwards and running to her commander. The soldiers asked her Oh Aisha, why are you running before the battle has even starteD? And she responded telling her that the Prophet (Saws) told her of an evil woman that would lead her men to doom and that she would enter a village and the animals would even recognize her ill actions and evil thoughts. And then she said to them, By God I did not think that it would have been ME!
So her men went on, and they reached the scene of the battle. Our great Imam again told them to put down their weapons and walk away, and they would be forgiven. But the usurpers wanted to fight. Ali's army, the army of the Amir ul Momeneen, screamed Allahu Akbar such that the mountains and the deserts shook with the name of the He who created us. These men were so scared and the voracious lions of khilafat that they lost the battle. But how? The criminals could not even lose a battle like a man and die...they instead, after challenging the KHALIF-E-RASHED (according to Sunnis even rightly guided!), and killing several of the MOMENEEN, such as our martyred warrior son Mohammad ibn Abu Bakr who they beheaded and put his body parts in the sack of a donkey (a big disgrace), had the audacity to put the Qur'ans at the end of their lances as if to put their heads under the Qur'an to beg forgiveness.
But our leader, Ali ibn Abu Talib, was a compassionate man, and he forgave them. Despite their insolence, despite their evilness, despite their wicked intentions. And today...the enemies, those wicked sons of the usurpers, after having attacked and killed our Imam at masjid with a poisoned knife, are still attacking masaajid just the same way their ancestors did.
But by God, none of us are Ali nor can we be him, in strength, in honor, or in heart. And if the only way to stop these attacks by the nawasib is to clear Baghdad, or clear Iraq, from those that support their actions...the only question is, why should we not? Ya Mahdi Adrikini!
With warm wishes, baloons, and party hats
- Afghan Shia
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Oh also:
THANK YOU BOUWSH 
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First of all you and your cult have a wrong view of history. Second of all you wrote "But by God, none of us are Ali nor can we be him, in strength, in honor, or in heart. And if the only way to stop these attacks by the nawasib is to clear Baghdad, or clear Iraq, from those that support their actions...the only question is, why should we not? Ya Mahdi Adrikini!"
You are acting like Ali is a God istaghfirallah! He is only human, but according to your cult you worship him in your prayers and duaa'
and dont say "ya mahdi adrikini", say " Oh Allah Adrikini"
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wake up afghan shia
we are not living a 1000 years ago. you have been brainwashed by your sick cult of blood and revenge
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Listen up kid, I'm not really going to sit here and argue about you with Islam, as it is MORE THAN OBVIOUS you have no understanding of Islam. Maybe you got back into your faith recently, but that doesn't mean you can go up against the big boys when arguing about deen.
"You are acting like Ali is a God istaghfirallah! He is only human, but according to your cult you worship him in your prayers and duaa'"
Ali isn't God. How did you extract that from my statements? He is from the generation of the Prophet, and did not commit errors, and was the first muslim. Therefore, all muslims are to try and achieve Ali's piety. This is a common theme among all muslims...as the sunnah of their generation was the sunnah of the Prophet.
"and dont say "ya mahdi adrikini", say " Oh Allah Adrikini""
Intercession (TAWASUL) is accepted by all traditional muslims. This includes the ahlul sunnah. Screw you and your new age, weak literalist interpretions.
"we are not living a 1000 years ago. you have been brainwashed by your sick cult of blood and revenge"
Now you sound like a hippie. I guess that is your tactic...be religious when it suites you, then when you get called out on it, you step back and say something secular? This is called turn-coatting. You are a turn-coat. A modern day Abu Sufyan. Tabreek! or Mabrook.
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And second of all....in the name of God, Praise be Allah, lord of the worlds, honor power and glory belong to He but the hypocrites know not:
"Thank you, Bouwsh!!!" 
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"as it is MORE THAN OBVIOUS you have no understanding of Islam"
You know nothing about me. You don't even know my real name. Baseless. Second of all my father is an Imam, and I am well educated on Islam thank you.
Again you make stupid baseless allegations against me. And second of all you call me "secular". Strange, I am not secular.
" He is from the generation of the Prophet, and did not commit errors"
hahahaha "did not commit errors"
Are you kiddign me?
Ali is human, and ALL humans are prone to mistakes. Apparently your cult believes Ali to be a supernatural being.
Your a Joke!
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Point out any mistake or error of judgement that Imam Ali made. I will be waiting, where Ali ibn Abu Talib had made mistakes both political or religious. I will destroy you in any argument in Islam, whether or not your father is an "imam" , so be quiet about your person life. Silly Baathist, Islam is for Muslim =]
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Go back to school and learn English grammer.
And secondly, I am not a "baathist". Is that the best insult you can come up with?
This is coming from a man who believes it is "holy" to beat himself, and the harder you hit yourself the more good deeds you will get.
Man, stop doing crack.
And Sayidna Ali is a human just like all of us. If Ali was "perfect" or "sinless" then he would not need Allah, as he would be up to his level ISTAGFIRALLAH!
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I will give you simple and easy examples to point out prophets made mistakes.
1) Prophet Adam, made the mistake of eating the forbidden fruit
2) Prophet Moses, made the mistake of questioning Alkhidr even though he was instructed not to
3) Prophet Yunus disobeyed Allah at sea so as a punishment he was engulfed by a whale for some time.
4) Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ignored a blind man and instead preached to a rich man eventhought the blind man actually wanted to convert to Islam and the rich man didnt. This is detailed in Surat Abasa
5) Prophet Muhammad said i will give you a response TOMORROW without saying INSHA'Allah..therefore as punishment revelation was postponed for 2 weeks (this is in surat alkawthar)
Again, they are human beings. They may be of the best examples of mankind, but they are STILL human beings prone to mistake.
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Afghan Shia I'm waiting..
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If you're atleast going to pretend you are religious, you should know basic things such as the "Battle of Camel" or that it is pronounced "Sayedeena."
Your understanding of Islam is that of a child's. You said previously that saying "Ya Ali" or "Ya Mahdi Adrikinii" means worshipping Ali or Mahdi? Are you on drugs? Do you know what Tawasul is? Do you know what traditional scholars like Abu Hanifa, Al Ghazali, or Al Azhar curriculum says about intercession? Don't you ask your mom and dad to intercede for you, all of the time, by asking them to pray for you? You are a complete retard. A person that is sinless still needs Allah, as Allah is the source of salvation...sinless or sinful doesn't relate to your needing of God (in a philosophical sense, metaphorically people that are sinful do need more Allah "in their lives.").
You also misunderstand your own argument. I said that Imam Ali made no errors. You are telling me he is prone to making mistakes? You're refuting an argument I didn't even make. A person that is capable of making mistakes, and actually making them are two different concepts (such as what we say when we say maasumeen). I asked you to point out any mistake or error of judgement that Imam Ali made. And I am still waiting for it. And don't say something retarded again. Khatum an nabieen was sinless. You are treading the lines of kufr to suggest the Prophet made errors in relevation. With Hazrat Adam, it was not a mistake to eat the forbidden fruit, as it was an inevitability (predestination). Hazrat Hassan agreed to let Mauwiyah become caliph despite having fought against Imam Ali (which is an act of kufr, also, to fight against the current caliph)...but as he told us, these decisions were not mistakes but instructed upon him from his father. The same with Al Hussein that rode into battle, despite the Prophet fortelling him of his defeat...but these are their abilities to change their fate, but their refusal to do so, and therefore their judgements were not in err but accorded to relevation by the Prophet.
The world that Sunnis live in...its really magical. You dog son of a dog, say that you respect Abu Bakr, and sahaba, but you don't know a thing about Islam or Islamic history. The oppressors and the oppressed, the right and the wrong, are all good muslims to you. All of the stuff I had said was true, and yet without looking up the information you tell me I am lying...Go Ask Your Dad If He Really Is An Imam to refute anything I have said. You're done.
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"If you're atleast going to pretend you are religious, you should know basic things such as the "Battle of Camel" or that it is pronounced "Sayedeena." "
Your the idiot who doesnt know the battle of the camel. Your cult purposely misinforms you as to the truth of whta really happened.
Second of all, Arabic is my mother tongue. Are you so arrogant and ignorant as to tell me I dont know how to say "sayiddina Ali".
Ali was an Arab, not an Afghan. It is not "sayedeeena"
And lastly, I have proven that the prophets of God have made mistakes before. Do I really have to also prove that about Ali? If prophets have made mistakes, what makes you think Ali is better than the prophets.
And lastly , I'm 27 years old.And if you want to question my intelligence, I have a BSC of Science and I'm getting my masters soon. I'm not saying this to show off, just to shut you up.
"You dog son of a dog" I think that is a childish statement dont you?
"You are treading the lines of kufr to suggest the Prophet made errors in relevation" Any mistakes the prophet made were corrected by Allah either in the Quran or through hadith, so no it is not kufr at all to say that.
And "Ya Mahdi Adrikinii", I know exactly what it means dimwit. Arabic is my mother tongue. I was trying to point out how you call on the 12 Imams when you should be calling on Allah alone.
"Don't you ask your mom and dad to intercede for you, all of the time, by asking them to pray for you?" This is not the same. You call on the dead as if they were magical spirits floating around or "ghosts". You do realize that they are all powerless, and only Allah can help you right?
Oh and then you call me a retard..who is the oen making childish insults?
Any more childish insults Afghan Shia?
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Oh and I have provided proof that the prophets made mistakes. Plz refute me if you can.
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"With Hazrat Adam, it was not a mistake to eat the forbidden fruit, as it was an inevitability"
lollololololol
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"The world that Sunnis live in...its really magical. You dog son of a dog, say that you respect Abu Bakr, and sahaba, but you don't know a thing about Islam or Islamic history."
Are you going to curse the sahaba like your cult does on a daily basis in their prayers?
Are you going to call Aisha a whore like your cult commands you to do?
Are you going to curse the prophets best friend Abu Bakr?
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im going to sleep. Would love to hear your refutaion that the prophets did in fact commit mistakes!
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All the prophets committed mistakes? We all make mistakes in our lifetimes.
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Oh you viale, wicked Zabini! So you got a Bachelor's of Science in Science eh? lol! As funny as that sounded, it doesn't impress me, especially from a Canadian school no less. I'm an MD/PhD student in chemical engineering. You are nothing, religiously or intellectually.
"Your cult purposely misinforms you as to the truth of whta really happened."
You didn't even know what it was! If I ask you about Siffin what would you say? What "really" happened? Aisha, "mother of all believers," raises an army of djinns to fight against Haidarullah...because of a miscommunication? Man, thats crazy, here I thought that Sunnis were supposed to men and not have women lead their armies! Imam Ali should have taken a toothpick and hit her for pulling a stunt like that, as Yusuf Al Qardawi teaches us. 
Second of all, much of Sunni premise on the Prophet making a mistake is based on fabrications and lies. Did the Prophet really forget his prayer time? Or forget to make wudu upon prayer? As "Sahih" Al Bukhari suggests he did? No. Wrong. False hadeeths. A literalist sunni may even believe things such as drinking camel piss is actually treatment of disease, or that Allah has a foot that he stamps in hell saying qat qat, or that Aisha had given a cup of her breast milk to a grown man for adoption. And alot more I can easily find.
If Allah sends to mankind a person that misrepresents Him and His message, that in of itself is contradictory...because we know Allah does not approve of sinning. Infallability, as defined by Ja'fari ideology, is not the inability to make sin, but the conscience self-awareness to not make one. I have found a link http://www.al-islam.org/encyclop...hapter1b/
2.html to a Sunni-Shia debate on infallibility, which is more an in depth version of what I would have told you myself.
As for your caveman interpretation for tawasul...I have to say, I find enough wrong about mainstream Sunni doctrine, I really don't want to even worry about a deviant such as yourself. Here is a website from sunnah.org, on tawasul: http://www.sunnah.org/publicatio...ml/
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Here is another some Sunni "fiqh" websites regarding that topic:
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_vi...ID=4767&
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http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/
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http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/ta.../
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Also...THANK YOU BOUWSH.
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The Coward AfghanShia did not answer or refute me, but instead went on to quote null hadiths.
I wrote:
" im going to sleep. Would love to hear your refutaion that the prophets did in fact commit mistakes!
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answer me retard!
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"Oh you viale, wicked Zabini! So you got a Bachelor's of Science in Science eh? lol! As funny as that sounded, it doesn't impress me, especially from a Canadian school no less. I'm an MD/PhD student in chemical engineering. You are nothing, religiously or intellectually."
I wasnt trying to impress you. Secondly you being in engineering doesnt mean that you are somehow more of an "intellectual". Everyone has different tastes.
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Coward Afghan,
I am still waiting for a refutation. Try not to change the topic
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I'm not here to refute your claims about Prophets making mistakes, but you were originally to refute mine. I asked you to bring any errors Imam Ali made, and instead you proved your own kufr by saying the noble prophets made many mistakes. Astaghfirullah. I am not going to refute your claim, as it is completely sacreligious to question God's messengers (tantamount to questioning God). Who is your father and what "masjid" does he lead?
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I gave you evidence, PROOF. What do you present me?
You call me a kaffir..is that the best you can do?
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You gave me "evidence" that the Prophets made mistakes, including the Seal of the prophets. This is not proof, but only according to your corrupted ideology does it seem like it. Anyway, your answer was similar to me telling you there is such a thing as gravity, and you arguing that it doesn't exist because things float in outer space. Prophets making mistakes = false, but you're arguing it as it is true by default, and indirectly saying that Imam Ali made mistakes. Slippery slope logic, but I would expect that from the taifeyeh bani ummayad...
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Alzabini, you pointed out 'mistakes' by just about all the prophets except Imam Ali.
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IA if the prophets can make mistakes, what makes you think Sayidina Ali is any better?
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I didn't say Imam Ali is any better. You just pointed out mistakes by prophets other than Ali.
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Thats just it Adnan Dulaimi...you can't even make the case that Prophets make mistakes. I don't accept that they made mistakes, ESPECIALLY ABOUT REVELATION (ASTHAGHFIRULLAH, LAEEN BIN LAEEN!).
And as I mentioned earlier, the situation is analogous to the existence of gravity. When things float in space, it still doesn't mean gravity doesn't exist. Imam Ali did not make any mistakes. I asked you to point out his mistakes, and you didn't. By Jafari definition, he is capable of making mistakes, as we all are, but he did not make any. And I am talking about things like political and religious decisions. Not for example that he was lactose intolerant, and made the mistake one day of drinking milk.
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How can I reason with someone who makes statements like this:
"With Hazrat Adam, it was not a mistake to eat the forbidden fruit, as it was an inevitability"
Seriously man dont you realize how stupid you sound. And instead of refuting my specific points he goes on to talk about gravity...dont change the subject and run away.
"With Hazrat Adam, it was not a mistake to eat the forbidden fruit, as it was an inevitability"
loooooooooooooool
by that rationality, that means any mistake I do is not actually a mistake but an "inevitability". Therefore I dont commit mistakes either.
Man you are brainwashed by your cult!
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01.25.07 - 11:55 pm | #
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"Thats just it Adnan Dulaimi"
lol is that the best you can come up with?
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01.25.07 - 11:56 pm | #
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IA...if you are not familiar with Sunnis and contradiction, then you haven't done your homework 
For example, like what was just mentioned, this criminal ideology believes that God's messengers, those selected by Him, were prone to error and actively made mistakes with regards to revelation! What is the point of sending a Prophet that makes your followers question your resolve and judgement? How can you have a Prophet reveal religion if he can't behave properly?
These are the same criminals that say Hazrat Hamza (razhiullah anhu) died as a person that made fitnah! Do you know who Hamza was? One of the Prophet's most loyal fighters and earliest muslims. Do you know how he died? In the early Islamic campaigns, Hazrat Hamza was a brave warrior, so the Mekkan jaahil wanted him killed. Not just in any special way, but Abu Sufyan (1st enemy of Islam, killed more Muslims than Zarqawi)'s whore of a wife, had a slave kill him and she rushed to his body. Do you know what this wretched woman did? She cut open his abdomen, pulled out his intestines and bit into them, to eat it. Khalid Bin Walid, who they praise as the "sword of Allah" (naozbillah), used to fight and hunt innocent Muslim especially the ex-slaves as he was a mercenary hired by Abu Sufyan clan/
Sunnis praise this woman, this man, and others as accepting Islam, and even give them more seniority than Islam's true followers. They insult us by saying Ayesha is the mother of all believers, and not Bebe Khadijah the wife of the Prophet or Bebe Fatima her daughter the mother of the Imams and the righteous peoples. These pre-Mekkan elite such as Hind (savage woman), her husband Abu Sufyan, their evil bastard progeny Mauwiyah Yazeed and her clan (Ummayad's, Omar 3rd caliphs family) accepted Islam not in the early times, not in the hard times, but when the armies of the great Muslims finally conquered these pagans. They say Abu Sufyan was a muslim, but Abu Talib a kafir. Abu Talib was Imam Ali's father, and the Prophet's uncle. He, Abu Talib, protected the Prophet during the time when people like Omar were attacking and stabbing muslims. They killed Amar Yasir and punished him all his life by putting rocks on his stomach and jumping on them because he was muslim. They killed our martyr lady Somaia bint Khabab, who as a black convert in Islam, by stabbing her in her private organs with spears because she refused to worship their pagan god. Even Muhammad Ibn Abu Bakr, their revered 1st caliph's son, who's mother married Imam Ali and he became one of Imam Ali's trusted sons...they beheaded him and put his body parts in donkey skin parading around dancing like jahil devil worshipping pagans.
This Al Zabini is tifl of the Pagan from that era. They pretend to be muslims, but they are vile wicked creatures. They pray cross handed, so they can hide buddha bracelets in their hands instead of prostrate to God in humility. It also comes in handy when you want to assasinate Imam Ali
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01.26.07 - 2:58 am | #
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It also comes in handy when you want to assasinate Imam Ali with a poisoned sword. They also pray this way, on their stomachs, to show Allah they are hungry during Ramazan so he feels sorry for them and lets them into heaven, because they live such unrighteous lives the rest of the year.
Is it ANY wonder then, that we question the akhlaq and the behavior of these Sunnis in Iraq or else where? Just look at how vicious their early mindsets were in the time of the Prophet. Look at how uncivil they were when they killed our prince of martyrs, Imam Hussain, and how a thousand years later they still praise this actions by engaging in the celebratory FAST the way Yazeed's army did the morning of Ashura. We are tired and tired of sitting and putting up with this bullshit, by half assed losers that will never amount to anything in their lives. The children of Hassan should rise and end this campaign of fear and bloodshed being thrust upon us by the Ummayad sons (Baathist insurgents) or Abu Omar's (Al Qaeda leader and Zalmay Khalilzad).
Thanks and have a great day. 
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01.26.07 - 3:00 am | #
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Afghan Shia,
Wow where do I start
1) you still never answered my question even the I provided proof. You continue to dodge and ignore my evidence
2) just because the prophet can make mistakes, in ALL cases he was corrected by Allah.the Prophets and Messengers made mistakes unintentionally, but Allaah did not approve of their mistakes; rather, HE POINTED OUT THEIR MISTAKES TO THE UMMAH, and He forgave their mistakes and accepted their repentance.
How is this amounting to "kufr" by acknowledging the prophets where human beings who made mistakes? Their mistakes were pointed out by Allah, therefore the Religion maintains perfection
Are you going to refute my evidence, or will you continue calling me a kaffir and making stupid statements like:
"With Hazrat Adam, it was not a mistake to eat the forbidden fruit, as it was an inevitability"
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01.26.07 - 4:04 am | #
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3) do you know the punishment of accusing someone of beign a Kaffir? Are you soem kind of a wacko nutjob Takfiri? I hope you know the story of a man boasting that he will enter heaven and making fun of his neighbor telling him he is going to hell? Because of this stupid mindless accusation, Allah through the Takfiri in hellfire!
So if I where you I'd think twice before calling me or anyoen a kaffir
4)Sunni's and ALL Muslism regard Hamzah as the Lion of Islam and Sunni Islam does NOT in any way accuse the Shaheed Hamzah of anything bad. If you watch the movie "The Message" you will understand.
Secondly, concerning the one who killed hamzah with a spear in Uhud.
He was NON-MUSLIM at the TIME. Once you convert to Islam your past sins are erased and forgiven, and that is what happened to him. He was forgiven. You cannot cry blood blood revenge revenge when the guy admitted to his wrong doing in his period of Jahiliyah.
5) Us sunni's are well aware of what Abu Sufyans wife Hind did to Hamzah's body. Having said that, after she converted to Islam the prophet FORGAVE HER. Her previous stupidity during the times of ignorance was forgiven. If the prophet foregave her, what gives you the RIGHT to call her a "whore"? She became MUSLIM !
Then you go on to bash the companions of the prophet and curse them and lie just as your cult commands you to do.
Then you go on and say this:
"This Al Zabini is tifl of the Pagan from that era. They pretend to be muslims, but they are vile wicked creatures. They pray cross handed, so they can hide buddha bracelets in their hands instead of prostrate to God in humility. It also comes in handy when you want to assasinate Imam Ali"
You call me:
1) A pagan
2) A fake Muslim
3) a Hypocrite who has buhha bracelets
4) wanting to assasinate Imam Ali (I guess he's using ALi as a metaphor for wanting to assasinate good Muslims)
WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO MAKE THESE ACCUSATIONS AND SAY THESE THINGS? Are you Allah to accuse me of this and this(Istaghfirallah)? Do you even KNOW ME???
Apologize now, or else face Allah on the day of judgement.
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01.26.07 - 4:23 am | #
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"With Hazrat Adam, it was not a mistake to eat the forbidden fruit, as it was an inevitability"
loooooooooooooool
I guess AfghanShia didnt make a mistake when he called me a Kaffir, it was merely an inevitability, not a mistake..
looooooool
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01.26.07 - 4:27 am | #
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