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So this is what our Arab "brothers" think of Iraqis. - IM
no, not exactly.. that is what ALL ISLAMISTS think of anyone who is not one
of them.. they consider (if you can call it that) ALL others, be they Muslim or
non-Mulsim to be INFIDELS, period..
==
There's the "near" enemy and the far enemy. Bin Laden pays lip service to defeating Israel,but his real goal is to become the fattest oil sheik of all time. With a disaffected sunni population,Iraq looked ripe for the picking. He'd be blowing up Saudi's if he could find recruits willing and able to do so. Unfortunately for bin Laden,good Wahhabi's only blow up non-Wahhabi's.
(Obamas answer: I think the opposition to the war in Iraq was as tough a decision as I've had to make. Not only because there were political consequences, but also because Saddam Hussein was a real bad person, and there was no doubt that he meant America ill.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12602
I knew this was another Carter. He'll be sitting in the Rose garden for four years,pontificating over whether to respond to Al Qaida's latest atrocity.....with high level "talks".
Interesting to note the number of suicide bombings in which "no Israelis were killed"
2000
Oct. 26: Israeli outpost in Gaza; no Israelis killed.
Dec. 22: Restaurant in Jordan River Valley; no Israelis killed.
2001
Jan. 1: Netanya; no Israelis killed, 60 injured.
March 1: One killed in taxi near Mei Ami.
March 4: Three killed in Netanya.
March 27: Jerusalem's French Hill neighborhood; no Israelis killed.
March 28: Gas station near Sdeh Hemed; two killed.
April 22: Kfar Saba; one killed.
April 29: Car near Israeli bus outside Nablus; no Israelis killed.
May 18: Netanya shopping mall; five killed.
May 25: Truck at Carni Junction in Gaza Strip; no Israelis killed.
June 1: Dolphinarium nightclub in Tel Aviv; 21 killed.
June 22: Jeep at Dugit in Gaza Strip; two killed.
July 9: Car near Kissufim Junction; no Israelis killed.
July 16: Binyamina train station; two killed.
Aug. 8: Military checkpoint in Jordan Valley; no Israelis killed.
Aug. 9: Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem; 15 killed.
Aug. 12: Kiryat Motzkin; no Israelis killed, 21 injured.
Sept. 4: Haneviim Street in Jerusalem; no Israelis killed.
Sept. 9: Nahariya train station; three killed.
Sept. 9: Car at Beit Lid Junction; no Israelis killed.
Oct. 7: Near Kibbutz Shluhot; one killed.
Oct. 17: Nahal Oz; no Israelis killed.
Nov. 8: Baka al-Sharkiyeh, West Bank; no Israelis killed.
Nov. 26: Erez crossing, Gaza Strip; no Israelis killed.
Nov. 29: Gan Shmuel bus; three killed.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...ings-
glance.htm
Also I don't know if it's right to call them 'takfiri' anymore. A takfiri is one who accuses other Muslims of apostasy and kills them for it. But they have been killing Sunni Arabs for three years now in Iraq. Takfiri have killed many Sunni Arabs in Iraq. So this brings up the question: how does a suicide bomber go to heaven by killing a bunch of Sunni Arabs? The suicide bomber did not kill apostates at Abu Hanifa yesterday.
The 100% American is 99% idiot. George Bernard Shaw
Mojo, I suppose the suicide bombers and their superiors believe that anyone who are working with the Americans, regardless of whether they are Sunni or Shia are apostates and therefore worthy targets to be killed. Or it could be that Sunni who work with the Shia-led Iraqi govt in whatever way are also apostates.
They do not attack the Americans and other foreigners in the Gulf States because they fear the reaction of local govts would endanger not only their lives, but those of their families. When King Hussein crushed the PLO's attempt to take over Jordan in Sept. 1970, hundreds of Palestinian fighters swaim the Jordan to surrender to the Israelis on the West Bank. They wisely perferred Israeli prisons to King Hussein's firing squads.
As to why Iraqis, whether Shia, Sunni or Kurds are preferable targets to Israelis. I can think of a couple of different reasons. One is that Israelis are a lot harder to kill then Iraqis with all their security measures such as the barrier wall and checkpoints. Also Israel's record in retailation and pre-emption through measures like targeted killings of terrorist leaders tend to encourage such folks to concentrate their efforts elsewhere. Iraqis are tragically much easier to kill and safer for those whom indoctrinate and arm the suicide bombers.
The other reason may be that the Sunni-Shia conflict has gone on for more then 1,000 years involving many Islamic countries and has become perhaps the most important and bitter conflict for many Muslims; far more then the conflict with the Zionists which at most only goes back about a century and only involves Israel, Palestine and the neighboring countries.
Mojo, thanks for linking to USA Today list of suicide bombings in Israel in 2000-2002. A graph displaying the number of suicide bombings in Israel with the number killed by each year for period of 2000-2007 can be found by googling in quotes, "suicide bombings in Israel" and clicking on the first entry entitled "Suicide and bombing attacks since the DOP(Sept 1993)" (DOP refers to the Declaration of Principles signed between the Israeli govt. and the PLO in Sept. 1993.)
According to the graph put out by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, between the outbreak of the Second Intifalda in Sept.2000 and the end of 2007 there were 140 suicide bombings in Israel that killed 542 people. Given that Iraq's population is about 4 times that of Israel (28 million vs. 7 million). The equivalent number of suicide bombings in Iraq would have been 560 with about 2200 dead instead of about twice the number of bombings (1,121) with six times the number of dead of more then 13,000 Iraqi men, women and children.
BTW: Mojo, your article on Suicide bombings in Israel vs. Iraq is number 5 out of 55,600 entries listed by google under "Suicide bombings in Israel".
Finally: I do not care much for the way Fisk always has to put some sort of anti-American twist on his articles. Still this is a
Finally: I do not care much for the way Fisk always has to put some sort of anti-American twist in his articles. Still this is an awfully good, if grim piece. Thanks for posting about it, Mojo.
(Sorry apparently ran out of room with previous comment. Perhaps I should try to be briefer in what I write!)
Communism & NWO: Wall Street's Utopian Hoax
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
March 16, 2003
Bella Dodd was a leader of the Communist Party of America (CPUSA) in the 1930' s and 1940's. Her book, "School of Darkness" (1954) reveals that Communism was a hoax perpetrated by financiers "to control the common man" and to advance world tyranny. Naturally this important book is out-of-print and not in any used bookstores. (I found it through interlibrary loan.)
Bella Dodd was born Maria Asunta Isabella Visono in Italy about 1904. A brilliant and dedicated woman, she graduated from Hunter College and NYU Law School. She became head of the New York State Teachers Union and was a member of the CPUSA's National Council until 1949.
Dodd describes Communism as "a strange secret cult" whose goal is the destruction of Western (i.e. Christian) Civilization. Millions of naοve idealists ("innocents") are tricked by its talk of helping the poor, but it cares only for power. For example, Dodd found there was no social research at party headquarters. "We are a revolutionary party, not a reform party," she was told. (163)
CREATING "HUMAN BEINGS THAT WOULD CONFORM"
The Communist Party operates by infiltrating and subverting social institutions like the churches, schools, mass media and government. Its aim was "to create new types of human beings who would conform to the blueprint of the world they confidently expected to control." (162)
For example, Dodd reveals that the CPUSA had 1100 members become Catholic priests in the 1930's. It also subverted the American education system by taking over the teacher's unions and learned societies. Only people who accepted the "materialistic, collectivistic international class struggle approach" advanced. (9
Involving women in the war effort fitted the long-range program:
"The party did all it could to induce women to go into industry. Its fashion designers created special styles for them and its songwriters wrote special songs to spur them.... War-period conditions, they planned, were to become a permanent part of the future educational program. The bourgeois family as a social unit was to be made obsolete." (153)
There was to be no family but the party and the state. Dodd helped organize the Congress of American Women, a forerunner of the feminist movement.
"Since it was supposedly a movement for peace, it attracted many women. But it was really only a renewed offensive to control American women... Like youth and minority groups, they are regarded as a reserve force of the revolution because they are more easily moved by emotional appeals." (194-195)
SUBVERSION OF U.S. COMPLETED IN THE 1930's
When FDR recognized Russia in 1933, he deliberately turned a blind eye to the CPUSA's massive program of espionage and subversion. Liberals denied that this took place and complained about a "witch hunt." Guess what? The "loony right" was correct. A new book (The Secret W
Guess what? The "loony right" was correct. A new book (The Secret World of American Communism, based on newly opened Kremlin archives, confirms that CPUSA was a puppet of Moscow and the Roosevelt and Truman administrations were practically run by Soviet agents, Alger Hiss, Harry Hopkins and Harry Dexter White to name a few.
The war years saw the CPUSA actually renounce the class struggle and join the so-called "Roosevelt camp of progress" which included "progressive capitalists."
"The Communist Party now assumed the responsibility of establishing a rigid discipline over the working class. No employer was more effective or more relentless in checking strikes among the workers, or minimizing complaints...while wages rose a little during those years, they did not compare with the rise in profits and in monopoly control of basic necessities...war production was chiefly in the hands of ten large corporations...the Communists carefully muted such information." (153)
The war years saw amazing coordination between the Communist Party and America's financial elite. The elite financed a sophisticated propaganda agency called the Russian Institute located on Park Ave. across 68th Street from Rockefeller's Council on Foreign Relations. Here "famous names like Vanderbilt, Lamont, Whitney and Morgan mingled with those of Communist leaders. "(153)
At Roosevelt's insistence, Stalin "dissolved" the Comintern in order to make the CPUSA look like an American party. The CPUSA leader Earl Browder achieved national prominence and consulted with senior Roosevelt cabinet ministers.
The joint US-Russian war effort was to be the basis of the new world order. But, inexplicably, the policy changed and Browder instantly became a non-person. Apparently the financial elite had decided the time wasn't right for world government. A cold war would be much more lucrative. Dodd was told that in the future, the party would often find itself opposed not only to the government, but also to U.S. workers.
"I now saw that with the best motives and a desire to serve the working people... I and thousands like me, had been led to a betrayal of these very people.... I had been on the side of those who sought the destruction of my own country." (229)
Like frightened mice, the CPUSA membership scurried to adopt the new party line. Dodd tried to quit but was told: "No one gets out of the party. You die or you are thrown out." (197)
Eventually Dodd was expelled and smeared as "anti-Negro, anti-Puerto Rican, anti-Semitic, anti-labor and a defender of the landlord." (220). Sound familiar? After more than 20 year of tireless sacrifice, she was without family or friends. The party had been her family. Its "hates had become my hates."
"This is the key to the mental enslavement of mankind. The individual is made into nothing ... he operates as the physical part of [a] higher group intelligence... he has no awareness of the plans the higher group
he has no awareness of the plans the higher group intelligence has for utilizing him." (15
"A SECRET WELL-ORGANIZED WORLD POWER"
Bella Dodd was circumspect about the people behind the Communist Party. She once was told to phone two multi-millionaires who live in the Waldorf Towers if she lost contact with Moscow. Elsewhere, she refers to "a secret well organized world power." She is obviously afraid to be candid. She suspects that one CPUSA leader's "suicide" was in fact murder. (172)
But she does drop a possible clue. She says that each of the nine floors of the party-owned headquarters at 35 E. 12th St. was devoted to CPUSA business. The Sixth Floor held "the publication offices of the Yiddish newspaper, the Freiheit, and the "Jewish Commission." (162) Indeed Jews were prominent among Communist dupes.
"What now became clear to me was the collusion of these two forces: the Communists with their timetable for world control, and certain mercenary forces in the free world bent on making profits from blood." (229)
As "one piece of the puzzle that finally became a picture," Dodd tells the story of the ship "Erica Reed" typical of "hundreds of other stories." During the Spanish Civil War, Americans donated money to load the ship with medical supplies and food for Spain. The Communists diverted the ship to Russia instead. (89)
Censorship is crucial to Communists, Dodd says. "I have often seen leaders pull books from shelves in homes and warn members to destroy them."(223)
Communism is essentially a deceitful system of international elite control. It was not suppressed during the McCarthy era. Rather it morphed into the New Left, Counter Culture, Civil Rights, Anti War and Woman's Liberation Movements, and later into a plethora of elite-sponsored NGO's, and media, Democratic and Republican party factions, Liberal, Zionist, Labor, and Gay Rights groups. Like the CPUSA itself, these groups are controlled from the top so their memberships are unaware of being used.
To the objection that some of the above mentioned groups oppose globalization, Dodd refers to examples where the CPUSA ostensibly supported causes they wished to sabotage. (205)
In conclusion, Communism was/is a plot designed to substitute a cabal of the rich for the rule of God. It is a utopian fraud hatched by the rich to thwart the dreams of ordinary people and stunt human progress. The same cabal is behind most wars including the impending attack on Iraq.
A precursor to the new world order, Communism espouses brotherhood, peace and equality in order to deceive us. It has taken over society's eyes, ears, mind and spirit. Much of what passes for truth in the media and schools is part of this monstrous con job. The expression "politically correct" in widespread use in America is an old Communist Party term. Our politicians are mostly traitors.
Feminism is Communist both in origin and spirit. It pretends to champion women but in
Feminism is Communist both in origin and spirit. It pretends to champion women but in fact neuters both sexes and destroys the basic social unit, the family. The promotion of homosexuality as a "lifestyle choice" for heterosexuals is also part of this brazen elitist fraud designed to "create new types of human beings who would conform..."
Western Civilization is like a ship floundering in a sea of evil, yet the passengers are too duped and distracted to realize it. Bella Dodd had the courage to sound the alarm 50 years ago. It is never too late to begin to resist tyranny.
There are no lifeboats.
I do not know who Zob is or where he came from. All I can say is that I hope he heads back there and does not return.
David,
You Satanic individuals will never succeed in hiding the truth.
Mojo, you might consider deleting Zob's comments and banning this individual before he or she wrecks this thread. Otherwise I'd advise everyone to ignore Zob.
David, Mojo, its also interesting to note that there were over 140 suicide bombings in Afghanistan last year...a record number. While many of these attacks are aimed at international forces, they tend to kill large numbers of Afghans intstead...and in other cases, Afghans are the intended target, here are just a few examples.
http://afp.google.com/article/
AL...0YGSskAeORXZg6Q
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/
7094434.stm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8053277/
The same can be said of Pakistan, where dozens of suicide attacks were carred out last year, some of which were directed at mosques, both Sunni and Shia.
Perhaps the most horrific of all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?v=kC7EQDr-1-
Q
Note that the Pakistan attack I linked to occurred during an Eid celebration, highlighting what little regard these savages have for the religion of Islam.
"Mojo, you might consider deleting Zob's comments and banning this individual before he or she wrecks this thread. Otherwise I'd advise everyone to ignore Zob."
You have nothing to say on this subject. You can't debate the facts in an article that proves the communist takeover of the US government. Communism is a Jewish undertaking to enslave people and steal their money for wealthy Talmudist bankers. They are now bringing communism here so they can plunder the USA and Iraq just as they did to Russia but you want to ignore the facts and help them.
Why do you hate America, David? How can you look into American children's eyes knowing you are stealing their future to make a handful of super wealthy bankers much richer?
This is not politics, it is treason. You are a traitor.
Worth mentioning...outside of Iraqi and Afghanistan, there have been more suicide bombings carried out in Sri Lanka (by a non-Muslim terrorist group).
Many of the so-called "Islamic" terrorist groups in the Middle East have accquired their tactics from the LTTE-the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=4ydYiYISGVY
Thankfully, we can hope that this band of murderers will remain on the run as the SL gov't chases them through the northern jungles.
There are no "islamic terror groups". All those actions are "engineered by the Israelis" to terrorise and subjugate the IRaqi poeple into submission and attributed to fictional groups.
Allow me to correct my first phrase...what I meant to say is, "outside of Iraq and Afghanistan, there have been more suicide bombings carried out in Sri Lanka (by a non-Muslim terrorist group) than anywhere else in the world, including Israel.
C.H., Thank you for your post. It is true the murderous Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka were the inventors of suicide bombing. Their most famous victim was former Prime Minister Raji Ghandi of India in 1993.
Zob | 08.18.08 - 9:47 pm | #
Mojo, please spare us any further agony and get rid of this guy...
C.H. Thank you for your posts about suicide bombers in Afghanistan and Pakistan as well. And I agree with you, please Mojo whereever you are, please come back and delete Zob.
CH, there were more suicide bomber related deaths in Algeria in the 1990s than in Sri Lanka.
There were far more suicide related deaths in Kashmir before 9/11 than deaths related to the Tamil Tigers.
About 55,000 violent deaths in India before 9/11, including more 15,000 civilians killed by AQ linked networks.
This said, the Tamil Tiger suicide bombers killed many people, including Rajiv Gandhi in 1991.
Anand, I did NOT say suicide bomb deaths, I said there were more suicide bombers...as in the maniac who is blowing himself/herself up, not the victims.
While Algeria suffered for many years from terrorist attacks, which as Anand pointed out, resulted in the deaths of thousands of people (the civil war left some 200,000 dead), the April 11th, 2007 suicide attacks in Algiers are believed to be the first-ever suicide bombings in that country, although, as this article mentioned, Algeria has been hit by terrorism in countless other ways.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...7041200450.html
Zob sounds like PE ... 
Congratulations, Mojo.
The quality of your commenters keeps increasing.
First BG, now Zob.
Bruno,
For starters,start ya own blog...
U are so perfect that many will
continue with you 
Mojo,keep up the good work!!!!
I do appreciate it....and thanks
for your thoughts...
It is interesting how Robert Fisk decided to compare the occupied Palestinian suicide attacks against their occupier Israel's citizens, to Al Qaeda suicide attacks against Iraqi civilians. And how you Mojo questions why only Fisk has bothered to make this comparison...
While I respect and often read from Robert Fisk I don;t always agree with him. Quite frankly, while I condemn all attacks on civilians, I don't see the correlation in comparing between one set of suicide attacks by the occupied native Palestinians against the civilians of their Israeli occupier, and the other set of suicide attacks by Al Qaeda, a largely foreign to Iraq Salafist Jihadi group, which has been primarily attacking Iraqi civilians based on them being either Shia, Kurd, or working with the U.S. occupation....
CH, there is a massive undercounting of suicide attacks in my opinion . . . especially against poor people in developing countries.
AQ linked terrorist attacks against India took off in 1996, after OBL moved to Afghanistan from Sudan.
Before 1996, the largest user of suicide bombers in the world might have been the Tamil Tigers.
Are you certain that the first suicide bombing in Algeria was in 2007. That seems hard to believe. Some 60,000 civilians were killed in the 1990s. No suicide bombers?
Marion,
There has always been a war somewhere..way before America
was even born...
Do ya think i liked this one?
naw...but the Insane Man is gone..
but another one will be born,here,
there......
I will not listen to a toture story
much more from this tyrant,he makes
me sick...
We did not totally start this war..
Admirer of Sadamm, BRUNO......
TOO BAD,SO SAD
Whatever andrea.....
I know that I have been accused by I believe Craig of taking drugs, amongst so many other things, here on Mojo's blog, which doesn't apply to a practicing Muslim who believes that taking drugs and drinking is Haram (forbidden) for Muslims to partake in.
But I have to ask you andrea, and this is based on your style of posting, do you happen to take drugs or drink alcohol...?
Quite frankly, while I condemn all attacks on civilians, I don't see the correlation in comparing between one set of suicide attacks by the occupied native Palestinians against the civilians of their Israeli occupier, and the other set of suicide attacks by Al Qaeda, a largely foreign to Iraq Salafist Jihadi group, which has been primarily attacking Iraqi civilians based on them being either Shia, Kurd, or working with the U.S. occupation....
So, basically, you DON'T really condemn attacks on civilians. Right? You just like to flap your lips a lot and pretend that you do.
I know that I have been accused by I believe Craig of taking drugs, amongst so many other things, here on Mojo's blog, which doesn't apply to a practicing Muslim who believes that taking drugs and drinking is Haram (forbidden) for Muslims to partake in.
Are you claiming to be a "practicing" Muslim now, Marion? I thought you liked Iranian style Islam? You realize Iran has one of the largest rates of drug addiction in the world, don't you? And I've never met an Iranian here in the US who doesn't drink. But we all know that Lebanese Muslims like your husband are famous for their puritan attitudes towards drugs, sex and booze. So maybe if you learned about Islam from him, you are a good Muslim, eh?
But how then can we explain all the other haram behaviors you admit to subscribing to on this blog? Have you ever actually read the Quran, Marion?
In your mind Craig, are your hyperbolic accusations against me based on logical debate?
Marion, please try not to learn more than one new word at a time! You are confusing enough when you aren't trying to find ways to use "hyperbolic" and "logical" in the same sentence.
"So, basically, you DON'T really condemn attacks on civilians. Right? You just like to flap your lips a lot and pretend that you do.
Craig | Homepage | 08.19.08 - 1:24 pm | # "
If someone other than Marion wrote that, you might be right. But Marion is very hard to understand and interpret.
Marion, do you unambiguously condemn all violent attacks directed against Israeli civilians? I mean attacks where Israeli civilians are targeted rather than collateral damage. I also am not asking about violent attacks against the Israeli army.
Whatever Marion
your statement towards me was not
even close,and way off track...
Marion's silence to Craig and Anand's questions about whether she approves of suicide bomb attacks against Israeli civilians is its own eloquent answer.
Andrea, you have to forgive Marion. Some time ago she donated her sense of humor to the Palestinian Cause!
(Obamas answer: I think the opposition to the war in Iraq was as tough
a decision as I've had to make. Not only because there were political consequences, but also because Saddam Hussein was a real bad person, and there was no doubt that he meant America ill.)
Maury | 08.18.08 - 2:53 pm |
Obama didn't make a "decision".. he was still an Illinois State Senator
in 2002.. hence, he never had to vote "for or against" the WII / 2003..
Onama, July 27, 2004:
Obama: Im not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I dont know, in terms of how you would have voted on the war.
Obama: "there is not much difference between my
position and George Bush's position at this stage,"
Obama's several positions on Iraq
and the successful Bush Surge in Iraq
==
"Marion's silence to Craig and Anand's questions about whether she approves of suicide bomb attacks against Israeli civilians is its own eloquent answer."--David All
My silence to Craig and anand's questions are because I didn't get the chance to read them and respond until now David....
And your allegations concerning my silence is its own eloquent answer, it is called biased...
I do not, nor have I ever supported suicide bomb attacks against Israeli civilians...I thought that I made that clear in my posted comment "while I condemn all attacks on civilians".... all civilians includes Israeli civilians David...
Good for you Marion. I thought you believed that, but many of your comments are unclear on this point.
Marion, before the recent Hutna, Hamas and Fatah's Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades both supported terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. Islamic Jihad has directly supported terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians.
Hezbollah has assisted Hamas, Fatah and Islamic Jihad in their attacks against Israel with the direct knowledge that they were abbetting and assisting terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians.
Marion, are you willing to unambiguously state that these specific actions by Hamas, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, and Hezbollah were wrong and should be condemned (even while you may support other actions by these groups.)
Do you support Hamas and Fatah continuing the Hutna forbidding terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians indefinitely?
Personally, I think Hezbollah, Lebonan, Israel, Hamas and Iran should form a close alliance to crush the Takfiri. What are your thought on this idea?
I know that Craig does not think that Hezbollah should be forgiven for 1983 so easily. I respect his position, but believe that AQ and its Takfiri groupies present a far greater threat, and that we and the Israelis need to be open to working with Hezbollah to deal with this much larger and more urgent threat.
Mojo, I don't think Marion will condemn Hezbollah for any of Hezbollah's mistakes. Let us see if she can criticize Fatah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
I know that Craig does not think that Hezbollah should be forgiven for 1983 so easily.
Forgiven? Yeah. Right. And I suppose next week or next year, you will want to forgive AQ as well, just because they can "help" us deal with some other threat? Maybe they could help us take on the Russians in the Caucasus, for instance?
I respect his position, but believe that AQ and its Takfiri groupies present a far greater threat, and that we and the Israelis need to be open to working with Hezbollah to deal with this much larger and more urgent threat.
So, "threat management" is all you care about?
Anand, what you propose is the exact same thinking that got us into this mess in the first place. We shouldn't be trying to use "evil" people to arrive at a "good" outcome. That NEVER works.
[marion] "I know that Craig does not think that Hezbollah should be forgiven for 1983 so easily."
[craig] "Forgiven? Yeah. Right. And I suppose next week or next year, you will want to forgive AQ as well, just because they can "help" us deal with some other threat? Maybe they could help us take on the Russians in the Caucasus, for instance?"
Craig, while I seem to disagree with you on pretty much anything, I have to say that you have a core honesty in your stance that is worthy of respect.
If American foreign policy followed this outlook, I suspect there would be a great deal less bitching about it.
I absolutely loathe and detest the American tendency to pretend that its allies are the paragons of goodness while they are useful, and then to immediately flip a switch and to depict them as utter evil when they are stabbed in the back after the dirty work is done.
I'd rather face a ruthless enemy that is honest upfront about their intentions than somebody that pretends they are a friend while sharpening up the knife.
Note: Interesting to see how the Israelis were the first victims of Islamic suicide bombers while a Jewish American, Daniel Pearl was the victim of the first beheading video. In both areas, Islamic terrorist went on to murder far more of their fellow Muslims then they ever did of the supposed non-Muslim infidels.
David All | 08.22.08 - 10:20 pm | #
That is very right, David
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