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You hit the nail right on the head. Good job.
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12.15.05 - 2:44 pm | #
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I tire of these sorts of idealized visions of what could happen, like a bad Marvel comic.
Zombiedante |
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12.15.05 - 3:53 pm | #
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Interesting Zombie,
I find the idealization mostly on the pro-illegal side. Explain more.
Also, may I recommend Roy Beck's The case against Immigration. No matter where you fall on the issue it's a good read.
Jake Jacobsen |
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12.15.05 - 5:55 pm | #
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"Wages will rise. Benefits will improve. American workers will move back into the middle class. Black Americans will suddenly be flooded with opportunites that have up until now been stolen by illegals. American business will be forced to be competitive. Earlier immigrants will have an actual chance to move up the economic ladder. Productivity will rise. Money that pours over our porous border in the form of remittances will be reinvested in America strengthening our economy. Schools will improve. Crime will drop. More money will be available to help Americans. I could go on..."
Zombiedante |
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12.16.05 - 9:11 am | #
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Zombie,
On what do you base your assertion? I can back mine up with studies (and yes I'll submit that you can back up anything with a study). I specifically recommend Roy Beck's the case against immigration. It's pretty well cited and researched. The points I make in this piece are borrowed from him.
I'm also working on a history book and I'll share one tidbit I've run across. Pre-civil rights movement blacks in America (50's-early 60's) had attained something on the order of 70% middle class status. Within ten years that number had dropped to below 30% and I think it stands at around 60% today.
The immigration laws were relaxed in 1965. You tell me, what caused this radical shift in their status?
Jake Jacobsen |
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12.16.05 - 3:02 pm | #
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Forget this debate, it is ridiculous! People are trying to say the U.S will crumble without slave labor? Hmmm, where have I heard that one before? Oh yeah, that would be the Civil War!
Look get over the idiotic rhetoric that is out there and think for yourselves people, our economy will adjust. Our economy always adjusts, why do you think that before women entered the market place there only needed to be one bread winner? I will tell you, because the economy adjusts, so know there is a driving force for a two income family. Was that clear enough for you to understand how things work? you cannot have HALF capitalism, if you mess with supply and demand you are rigging the market. Trust me, I will pay an extra eight dollars a year for vegetables so that the farms can increase wages 40%. I will go further, I will be willing to pay 20.00 extra per year! I will even be willing to spend an extra 50.00 per year, how about you?
The Uncooperative Blogger |
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12.18.05 - 11:56 pm | #
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I don't know UB, I kinda dig the slaves.
NOT!
Jake Jacobsen |
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12.19.05 - 12:39 am | #
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