Now you're getting Wiggy with it
Not really, only because you think so, James.
James and about 70% of the state of wisconosin that is...
Can I see those poll numbers, please? And anyway, when one lies enough, as Republicans have on this issue, one is bound to have a few buy into those lies.
Google.com
But I'm sure the polls were flawed in some esoteric way... Fill me in.
Yeah, sure, let's say Obama does that. Then let's say the guy whose name he used comes in and tries to vote. Then he complains and the cops investigate.
That would be noted as the first time anyone has been caught trying to vote as someone else in the State of Wisconsin.
Ever.
Certainly sounds like something you want to use to disenfranchise a bunch of poor and elderly without a picture ID. I mean, it's never happened, but you never know...might as well knock out all those likely Democratic voters, just in case, eh, Wiggy?
You can stop the good-government pose now. We know what you're up to.
Gosh, Mike. You must be sooo clever to find my secret motives.
There is a Constitutional right to vote. There isn't a Constitutional right to rent a movie at Blockbuster, use a municipal gymnasium, etc. Where are the "illegal voting" horror stories? It's all about voter suppression, and you know it Wiggie. At least be honest about it!
Nothing secret about it, Wiggy.
Fine. If you had bothered to read the second line of my last comment, you'd know the polls are meaningless anyway.
Why do you hate Americans so, BigT?
Wow. The BS about the poor and elderly not having ID still lingers on. Libs know they have it currently rigged in their favor by not allowing ID to vote. At least you could come up with a better argument instead of allowing people who vote legally to be disenfranchised.
Wally, there's a constitutional right to bear arms, too. Are you against showing ID as proof of age, background checks and the like?
Mike, I'm glad to see you're listening to those voices inside your head again. I know where they come from. They're the voters from the vacant lots.
So, all those states have voter ID are disinfranchising voters? In Nevada, the Democrats required voter ID to participate in the caucuses. I guess they are trying to hold down the vote as well. Darn those Democrats. I suppose the 30 day rule disinfranchies voters as well. Darn Deomcrats for going along with that as well.
Typical liberal arguement. It is so old and 60'sish. Can't they come up with something original?
or he could walk into any dot office and tell them who he is, no proof needed, and acquire a "real photo id"
that makes sense why wiggy?
Jmac, unless the rules changed:
http://www.dot.state.wi.us/drive...pply/
getlic.htm
Tim - I read the second line - and ignored it as pure and simple bias against fact. Hence the reference to google.
But I do understand the inability of some people to be fair and balanced. Hence your reference to my hating Americans.
So to the point: Over 70% of Americans think it's fair to require voter ID at the polls. The rest are bi-ass-ed. Care to comment?
use any name on the voter registration list
And the "real owner of that name" won't complain that someone claiming to be them already voted, because a) they're dead, b) they've moved and the rolls were never updated, or c) they don't exist; someone mailed in a fake registration long before Election Day.
Again my point about lying and making up facts, which Republicans are so very good at.
There has never been voter fraud as you and your other fellow travellers have imagined. It is a made up issue with but one goal in mind: To lower in any way possible the voting numbers by segments of the population that have traditionally voted Democratic.
There is not one thing you can say to convince me differently, unless you were to agree to look into all the real disenfranchment of voters issues perpetrated by Republican machinations(god, I love that word) the past two decades.
But I do understand the inability of some people to be fair and balanced. Hence your reference to my hating Americans.
Your true colors exposed at last. A Faux News troglodyte. It figures.
I knew when I wrote that that your bias would lead you straight to a moveon.org talking point.
What, fair and balanced is now copyrighted by FNC?
How quickly you guys change the subject when you run out of arguments. Also pay no attention to that MPD report on voter fraud in Milwaukee. it could only document just a few cases of fraud due to the inept record keeping.
The biggest difference between people like me and people like you is I believe in preventing fraud even if it means people will need to be just a little bit more responsible. I'll even pay for someones ID if they can't afford it.
Any talk of disenfranchisement makes me recall which side had the tire slashing party on election day. Smok3es for votes anybody???
ummm mr. wiggy
you linked to the dot drivers license application link?
you don't need a drivers license to vote in any bill that i'm aware of.
when i was 21, i didn't drive.
walked into the wi dot office with nothing but my checkbook and walked out with a state issued id proving i was 21!
thats the fallacy of the gops whole photo id scare!
it won't solve the problem, which has far more to do with old/bad voter lists and borderline senile election clerks than anything else!
BigT, your problem is you actually paid attention to the MPD report. It was a biased and severely flawed look at voting and its sole intent was to embarrass the mayor. Plus, every single one of its conclusions was examined and rightly dismissed. btw: The authors were all white and conservative. What does that tell you about its conclusions?
Regarding tire slashing ... those culprits were brought to justice (though it had nothing to do with voter fraud ... nice try). The system worked.
And finally ... why for decades was there no rush for voter ID (hell, how about a century at least)? This is not about preventing voter fraud because if it were it would have reared its ugly head long ago. You can spin all you want, BigT, the difference in our two sides is we believe in democacy, yours believes in power for its own sake.
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