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David/Johnny,
I only recognize about half of these titles. I hope you'll talk at some point about what you like and what books those of us who were busy learning to read in the 80s might appreciate now that we're older. This is a really educational project you've got going here, though.
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06.07.04 - 6:41 pm | #
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Sure, I could do that, and I kinda wanted to. The only reason why I didn't write a paragraph about each was simply due to time constraints. I probably would still be about halfway through the 70s if I had done so!
If there are any in particular you're curious about, please ask, email me or whatever, and I'll try to write a bit about them.
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Well, I'm sure I'm not your only reader, so anything would be helpful, but maybe when you get up to what you like in the present you could go back over some highlights for a while. I mean, THRILLER? TIMESPIRITS? STARSTRUCK? KILLRAVEN was good and done by P. Craig Russell?? And there are especially intriguing titles in your honorable mentions, too.
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06.08.04 - 5:55 am | #
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For THRILLER, I invite you to check out the website I created. Go here. I dare say it can pretty much give you the complete skinny on that failed masterpiece.
TIMESPIRITS I wrote about a while back. Here's a link, with pitchers and everything!
STARSTRUCK is something I'd LOVE to write about in detail, but it's just so dense and complicated that I haven't been up to the task yet. It's a somewhat campy and extremely fun/charming Sci-Fi spoof, with an amazingly detailed cast of characters.
..cont. ...
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06.08.04 - 8:39 am | #
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And yes, Virginia, there was a time when Killraven was very good indeed, and done by Russell early in his career. In fact, his style as we know it now kiinda developed in front of our very eyes during his stint on the book. Here's a link to a fan site discussing Russell's career in general, with a couple of small spot illos.
I hated the Davis vanity project you referred to...especially since the original series was such a favorite during my formative years. McGregor's scripting may have been excessively verbose and somewhat pretentious, but it came from his heart and that was obvious. And Russell, in his still-evolving style, was a perfect compliment/foil. Other fine artists worked on the book, especially Gene Colan, who did one issue, and Herb Trimpe, the first regular artist, but Russell was the apex.
...more...
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...The Marvel Graphic Novel was a return to the character, intended to be the springboard for a new ongoing that would tie up all the dangling threads from the 70s series, but alas it was not to be. Conflicts between McGregor and the "brain"trust at Marvel at the time, IIRC.
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06.08.04 - 8:51 am | #
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Interesting choices, most of which I'd heartily second. Never came close to understanding Starstruck, tho. Liked Time Spirits, but wouldn't put it way up top. Void Indidgo seemed too extreme to enjoy at the time, but compared to now, who knows? It'd probably seem tame.
I'd add Miller's DD. Byrne's FF, Roger Stern/Rogers/Nowlan/Austin's Dr. Strange, Englehart's West Coast Avengers, Stern/RomitaJr Spidey, Bagge's Neat Stuff, Baron/Rude's Nexus, Evanier/Spiegle's Crossfire AND Blackhawk, and, if there's any room left, Neal Adams' Skateman!
Oops! Outta room! Sorry, Neal...
Fred
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06.08.04 - 2:33 pm | #
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Of course. Miller's Daredevil, I knew I'd forget a big one! I'm gonna have to go back in and add that one... Byrne's FF was readable, but forgettable for me. I liked the Englehart/Milgrom West Coast Avengers a lot- in fact, I always have felt that series was the closest Marvel came to doing "old-school" Lee-Kirby style stories in many years. The Doc Strange you mentioned was good, but I liked Rogers' and Mike Golden's stints, and they just didn't last very long! It wasn't until a couple of years ago, in Spider-Man's Tangled Web, that I liked a Spider Man story siince the 60s, so I suppose you can guess my opinion of the 80s Spidey comics.
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06.08.04 - 3:29 pm | #
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Now that you mention it, Bagge's Neat Stuff did come out in the 80s, didn't it? I really didn't start picking up on Pete until Hate, which will most definitely be in the next list. Never was a Nexus reader, although I certainly love Steve Rude's art...I always figured I'd grab a bunch of back issues, but never did. Neither of the Evanier/Spiegle books you cite really yanked my crank, but Skateman- now there was a comics series! Aw, I kid. I don't think I ever did more than read any of those Continuity Studios books off the rack. I know I never bought any, even though Trevor Von Eeden drew one or two of 'em.
Another 80s fave I totally forgot to mention, and I say this with rosy cheeks from blushing in embarrassment- those Dateline: $#@! (I know I don't have the characters right) magazine-sizers that were published by Fantaco, by some Hembeck chap. Those were a hoot and a half, and I never missed a one. 
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06.08.04 - 3:34 pm | #
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Aw, you sweet-talker you! Thanks for lying--or at least exaggerating the truth!
I forgot Sergio and Mark's Groo, Moench and Sinky's Moon Knight, and probably other good stuff as well (like--hey!--Alan Moore's final pre-Byrne Supes)...
LOVED Zot bigtime, and still do.
Stern on Spidey/Avengers/Doc Strange really caught the early Marvel feel, as did Byrne on FF, my fave work by him.
Waiting for the 90s!
Fred
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06.09.04 - 12:14 pm | #
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Y'know, I bought Groo regularly for several years, and enjoyed it a lot...but I rarely think of it these days. It's a very overlooked series. And don't get me started about Disney's Dave The Barbarian...
And Fred, I don't know how to break this to ya...but the 90s were four years ago. You missed 'em dude! 
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06.09.04 - 1:18 pm | #
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D'oh!!!
Fred
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06.10.04 - 9:23 am | #
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