This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
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"People need to put their country in front of their politics, it's that simple."
Exactly. It would be nice if they did that in Washington D.C., as well.
Do you really think the insurgents are sitting around watching Fox News to see when and where we're going to attack? This isn't as big of a problem as you are making it out to be.
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12.02.05 - 12:53 pm | #
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Oh, Will, but I think you are wrong.
Not only is it detrimental to the soldiers who see the sh*t portrayed on the news, be it Fox,CNN,MSNBC or your local news.
I think that Washington tries to, but they can't win, not when when media dictates what they do. Look at the first Gulf war, I still think that had the media not been so frickin' anti-war, we'd have finished it then, when we had the full support of the Iraqi people.
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12.02.05 - 1:17 pm | #
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I don't even know how to respond to that one, really.
First, we never had the full support of the Iraqi people and never will. I don't necessarily agree with what you were saying about finishing it the first time, but I think we would have been better prepared then as opposed to now. At least the military had a chance then. They weren't lied to. They already had a somewhat legitimate reason for being there the first time.
I also disagree that the media controls Washington. I think you're crazy if you believe that. I think the media does its best to keep the administration in check, which is its purpose as a free press. But I don't think the media in any way has any control over Washington.
But I do find it funny how Washington is buying the press in the middle east to run pro-American stories since they were busted doing it in this country. But I suppose it's better for them to pay off the media there than to simply just bomb them, which was the first genius plan.
Will |
12.02.05 - 1:49 pm | #
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Don't see anything wrong about them selling "positive" stories to the press in Iraq.
And if you don't think the media runs this country, then you, my Little Rockian friend are a nutter.
We had a crap load of support back in 1991. The people, all but a few who supported Saddam, were happy we were there. When we abandoned them, and left them to be slaughtered they mostly turned against us. Can ya blame them?
Jenn |
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12.02.05 - 2:12 pm | #
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If the "liberal" media dictates Washington, then how the hell did we end up with 8 years of Bush and some of the most backassward conservative policies and legislation we've ever seen?
Maybe the "liberal" media, as you claim, isn't so "liberal" after all? Or maybe the "liberal" media doesn't run Washington, as you also claim.
Look, Jenn, I want you to do one thing here: Have a good weekend. It's Friday, beyotch!
Peace
Will |
12.02.05 - 2:53 pm | #
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Bush was elected to two terms because the America people are smarter than liberals generally like to believe.
Take a look at the numbers Will. Trust in media is, and has been, at all time lows. Just because they control the agenda in Washington doesn't mean The People still buy it.
Roughly 80% of Iraqi's feel they are better off now than they were before. I guess you didn't read Lieberman's column. What a shame. He's a Democrat.
Despite the threat of death, Iraqi's are lining up in as great of numbers as ever to serve in the military and police. Their voter turnout is higher than ours, and the vast majority of their country lives in peace and thrives.
Do we really think they don't appreciate what we have done for them? If you do you should put down the kool-aid.
The terrorists absolutely watch American media. Right now we have four peace-loving, hippy, asshat hostages in Iraq. What do the terrorists want for them?
Gee. For us to empty all of the detenetion centers that were just reported to exist, by the media.
You really need to wake up Will. There's a big world out there and things are happening. Time to get off the sidelines.
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12.02.05 - 8:34 pm | #
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Will, the liberal, is half right. The media doesn't control Washington. It does exert an influence though. Bush's low poll numbers are a testament to the power of the media.
Hank |
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12.03.05 - 11:37 am | #
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Most liberals are usually only half right. : )
jenn |
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12.03.05 - 5:04 pm | #
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"Look at the first Gulf war, I still think that had the media not been so frickin' anti-war, we'd have finished it then, when we had the full support of the Iraqi people."
Actually, Bush Sr. didnt think that "finishing it then" was the right course of action. According to what I've read, he didnt want to go in and take out Saddam and deal with the fallout at that point.
I highly doubt the idea that Bush made his judgments based on what was broadcast on CNN...I have a feeling he listened to his advisors more than what was on cable TV.
I wont disagree that the media certainly exerts influence, but to say that it runs our government is a little over the top.
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12.06.05 - 6:45 pm | #
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"Bush's low poll numbers are a testament to the power of the media."
Really? How so?
Do you really put that much stock in polls? I dont...
ryan |
12.06.05 - 6:50 pm | #
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Polls are sh*t.
jenn |
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12.11.05 - 6:04 pm | #
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