This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
Are you kidding? Libs despise Wal-mart, because they make profits!
Dean is nuts. Since you didn't include his absurd comments about Iraq, I will.
Dean said: "The idea that the United States is going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong."
Now, of course, Dean says his quotes were taken out of context. Sure they were. Apparently, Dean sees all of us as fools and/or robots without human brains that have memories. Is this not 100% consistent with what Dean has said since his Presidential campaign? Now that he Chairs the DNC, that is supposed to be ancient history.
Good blog, Jenn. I'll be back to visit.
Merry CHRISTmas
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
Thanks Brent. Dean and Michael Moore are my two favorite Libby Tragets, add Babs and Sean Penn, and you've got a foursome of fun.
I guess this means Bush is crazy, too?
MATT LAUER: You said to me a second ago, one of the things you'll lay out in your vision for the next four years is how to go about winning the war on terror. That phrase strikes me a little bit. Do you really think we can win this war of ter--on terror? For example, in the next four years?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I have never said we can win it in four years.
MATT LAUER: No, I'm just saying, can we win it? Do you say that?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't--I don't think we can win it.
New York Times Headline: "Bush Cites Doubt America Can Win War on Terror." "President Bush, in an interview broadcast on Monday, said he did not think America could win the war on terror but that it could make terrorism less acceptable around the world, a departure from his previous optimistic statements that the United States would eventually prevail." (New York Times, 8/31/04)
Nice try, but it has already been established that this quote was taken out of context, in a likening to Michael Moore.
Bush has not said that we will lose. Even if this one example that you have given, actually holds any ground, don't you see the difference betewen the consitency of Dean, and the misspoken words of Bush?
In other words, Dean has been saying the same thing all along. Dean is a sneaky weasly speaker. Bush isn't at all. He says it like it is, without trying to put spin on it. Some call him dull or dumb for this. I personally, think it's brilliant, since that's what America wants anyway. Bush is much smarter than he is given credit for, in the mainstream press. They are just not willing to accept defeat. They are still saying that Bush stole the elections. We know better.
So, nice try, but your argument is flawed. Sorry. There is a Conservative crackdown on you libs, from now on. We're not going to let you get away with your lousy smears anymore. Conspiricy theories will not work. If you have an argument, you must provide both sides of substantiation.
So, what Bush was saying, is that we cannot win by force, alone. It will take cooperation from people with the desire to be free. He has been consistent in this by 100%, since before the war began. Dean, also, has been consistent in his negative remarks about the war, since before the beginning.
Dean has called it...what? Vietnam. Ring any bells? Nice try, but no cigar. I suppose you believe Dan Rather's bogus AWOL documents too?
Have a Merry CHRISTmas, Rick
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
It's all in presentation my friend.
You guys are too funny. I was going to stay away, but I happened to take a peek at what absurdity it was you were posting today, and couldn't bite my tongue any longer.
It's pretty funny how you amateur bloggers all visit each other's conservative and/or republican sites and brown-nose each other's opinions to make you feel better and look smarter. Hell, Brent's blog won't even allow you to post without registering. I guess you're at least one step up than that, Jenn.
So when Bush says something damning, it's just misspoken? I see. Actually, you lost me when you wrote, "Bush isn't at all. He says it like it is, without trying to put spin on it. Some call him dull or dumb for this. I personally, think it's brilliant, since that's what America wants anyway. Bush is much smarter than he is given credit for, in the mainstream press."
Quote of the year right there, Brent. You da' man. I even had to share that one with co-workers, who all got a good laugh. Shit, even the republicans and christians in the office were laughing at that. Two things that stuck out were Bush being smart and bush not spinning things and telling it like it is. If you want, I can give you an extensive, extensive, extensive list of Bush quotes that have been well documented and proven to not be "telling it like it is." Mission Accomplished ring a bell?
Ahhh, Jenn. I missed you. But not really. For old times sake, suck it.
Oh, and for the record, Brent, I do believe Dan Rather. And if you think Bush served his National Guard term the same as the next guy would, you're crazy.
Though the Bush administration now says the Pentagon "inadvertently" destroyed key documents about the President's military service at the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, the President refused to call on the state of Texas to release copies of those military files that are legally-required to exist there. According to AP, "Under Texas law, a copy of military personnel files of those serving in the Texas Air National Guard must be retained on microfilm at the Texas archives." The Texas Air National Guard has told AP that the files in the Texas state archive are under control of the federal government. But according to the NY Times, the chief of the Pentagon's Freedom of Information Office refused to comment about obtaining the documents.
If there's nothing to hide, then why go to the trouble of keeping them out of sight? Probably because he knew a key part in his re-election was going to be paying off the Swift Boat Veterans to smear his opponent.
Will, again you fail to understand the meaning of nuance.
Brent didn't say Bush had mispoken, He said his words were taken out of context, al la Michael Moore.
So, for example, if I said: "The sky is always blue on a sunny day." This would make sense. But, if someone were to edit it using only the part they wanted, they could make me look like I didn't know what I was talking about. For example:"The sky is always blue." Sure they used most of my words, but not all, and them my statement is wrong, because the sky is not always blue.
On Bush and his military Career, which was notwhat this post was about, but.....
The controversy over Bush's service centers on what his critics call "the period in question," that is, the time from May 1972 until May 1973. What is not mentioned as often is that that period was in fact Bush's fifth year in the Guard, one that followed four years of often intense service.
Bush joined in May 1968. He went through six weeks of basic training — a full-time job — at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Then he underwent 53 weeks of flight training — again, full time — at Moody Air Force Base in Valdosta, Ga. Then he underwent 21 weeks of fighter interceptor training — full time — at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Counting other, shorter, postings in between, by the end of his training period Bush had served two years on active duty.
Certified to fly the F-102 fighter plane, Bush then began a period of frequent — usually weekly — flying. The F-102 was designed to shoot down other fighter planes, and the missions Bush flew were training flights, mostly over the Gulf of Mexico and often at night, in which pilots took turns being the predator and the prey.
During that period Bush's superiors gave him consistently high ratings as a pilot. "Lt. Bush is an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer," wrote one in a 1972 evaluation. Another evaluation, in 1971, called Bush "an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot" who "continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further." And a third rating, in 1970, said Bush "clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot" and was also "a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership."
All that flying involved quite a bit of work. "Being a pilot is more than just a monthly appearance," says Bob Harmon, a former Guard pilot who was a member of Bush's group in 1971 and 1972. "You cannot maintain your currency by doing just one drill a month. He was flying once or twice a week during that time, from May of 1971 until May of 1972." While the work was certainly not as dangerous as fighting in the jungles of Vietnam, it wasn't exactly safe, either. Harmon remembers a half-dozen Texas Air National Guard fliers who died in accidents over the years, in cluding one during the time Bush was flying. "This was not an endeavor without risk," Harmon notes.
The president's critics have charged that he did not show up for service — was "AWOL" — in Alabama. Bush says he did serve, and his case is supported by records showing that he was paid and given retirement credit for days of service while he was known to be in Alabama. The records also show that Bush received a dental examination on January 6, 1973, at Dannelly Air National Guard base, home of the 187th (January 6 was one of the days that pay records show Bush receiving credit for service). And while a number of Guard members at the base say they d
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they do not remember seeing Bush among the roughly 900 men who served there during that time, another member, a retired lieutenant named John Calhoun, says he remembers seeing Bush at the base several times.
What seems most likely is that Bush was indeed at Dannelly, but there was not very much for a non-flying pilot to do. Flying fighter jets involves constant practice and training; Bush had to know when he left Texas that he would no longer be able to engage in either one very often, which meant that he would essentially leave flying, at least for some substantial period of time. In addition, the 187th could not accommodate another pilot, at least regularly. "He was not going to fly," says Turnipseed. "We didn't have enough airplanes or sorties to handle our own pilots, so we wouldn't have done it for some guy passing through."
On the other hand, showing up for drills was still meeting one's responsibility to the Guard. And, as 1973 went along, the evidence suggests that Bush stepped up his work to make up for the time he had missed earlier. In April of that year, he received credit for two days; in May, he received credit for 14 days; in June, five days; and in July, 19 days. That was the last service Bush performed in the Guard. Later that year, he asked for and received permission to leave the Guard early so he could attend Harvard Business School. He was given an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months, and five days of his original six-year commitment.
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year. At that time, Guardsmen were awarded points based on the days they reported for duty each year. They were given 15 points just for being in the Guard, and were then required to accumulate a total of 50 points to satisfy the annual requirement. In his first four years of service, Bush piled up lots of points; he earned 253 points in his first year, 340 in his second, 137 in his third, and 112 in his fourth. For the year from May 1972 to May 1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 196
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Bush then racked up another 56 points in June and July of 1973, which met the minimum requirement for the 1973-74 year, which was Bush's last year of service. Together, the record "clearly shows that First Lieutenant George W. Bush has satisfactory years for both '72-'73 and '73-'74, which proves that he completed his military obligation in a satisfactory manner," says retired Lt. Col. Albert Lloyd, a Guard personnel officer who reviewed the records at the request of the White House.
All in all, the documents show that Bush served intensively for four years and then let up in his fifth and sixth years, although he still did enough to meet Guard requirements. The records also suggest t
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The records also suggest that Bush's superiors were not only happy with his performance from 1968 to 1972, but also happy with his decision to go to Alabama. Indeed, Bush's evaluating officer wrote in May 1972 that "Lt. Bush is very active in civic affairs in the community and manifests a deep interest in the operation of our government. He has recently accepted the position as campaign manager for a candidate for United States Senate. He is a good representative of the military and Air National Guard in the business world."
Beyond their apparent hope that Bush would be a good ambassador for the Guard, Bush's superiors might have been happy with his decision to go into politics for another reason: They simply had more people than they needed. "In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots," says Campenni. "The Vietnam War was winding down, and the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs. In '72 or '73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem. In fact, you were helping them solve their problem."
Oh, and.... Suck it Will.
"Brent didn't say Bush had mispoken, He said his words were taken out of context, al la Michael Moore."
VS.
"Bush has not said that we will lose. Even if this one example that you have given, actually holds any ground, don't you see the difference betewen the consitency of Dean, and the misspoken words of Bush?"
Don't have time to argue the other stuff right now; it's Friday and it's 5 and I'm outta' here. But, the inconsistencies are aplenty, even right there in whatever it was that you copy/pasted from somewhere else.
Boo Hoo Will. I see where your bitterness comes from, 9-5 work. : )
I sure don't miss those days.
"Brent didn't say Bush had mispoken, He said his words were taken out of context, al la Michael Moore."
VS.
"Bush has not said that we will lose. Even if this one example that you have given, actually holds any ground, don't you see the difference betewen the consitency of Dean, and the misspoken words of Bush?"
wow, now I'm taken out of context too? What is with you people?
Here is what I actually said:
it has already been established that this quote was taken out of context, in a likening to Michael Moore.
Bush has not said that we will lose. Even if this one example that you have given, actually holds any ground, don't you see the difference betewen the consitency of Dean, and the misspoken words of Bush?
Why didn't you include that, Michael Moore?
I do believe Dan Rather
Do you believe Alex Jones as well? Do you know that Dan Rather was humiliated and stepped down from his anchor postion with CBS, because he knows his lies failed? He's lucky there were not charges brought before him for fraud!
It's pretty funny how you amateur bloggers all visit each other's conservative and/or republican sites and brown-nose each other's opinions to make you feel better and look smarter.
Amateur bloggers? And am I to assume that you are a professional blogger? How full of b.s. are you?
Hell, Brent's blog won't even allow you to post without registering.
The reason you must be registered is to ward off spam. Since the implementation of my filters, I get none. How hard is it to take 30 seconds to register? You will be able to comment on other blogspot blogs too, not just mine. The registration is for blogger, not just my blog in particular. You are smearing it, to make it seem as I am cowardly hiding from something, in typical liberal fashion, I must add. In fact, this is not the case at all. Just ask Jenn.
Sorry that my blog does not live up to your high standards, your majesty.
Where is your blog? I left a link for mine. Are you afraid to have me read or critique it?
I try to stay out of other people's personal preferences. Perhaps you ought to try this....wait you're a lib, therefore this is impossible!
You gave a bunch of conspiricy theories, yet you did not provide a single shred of evidence for your claims and/or the source for it. You have done a wonderful job at making a fool of yourself.
If you have nothing better to do at your job, than read blogs and show others about them, you must have boring work. I myself, am far too busy for that. You laugh at what I said about Bush's intelligence. Okay, so that means that you have a Master's Degree in Business from Yale University, and you can pilot a fighter jet? Wow, you are smart then.
By the way, how long did you serve in the military?
Please don't insult my intelligence. Yes, I am an amatuer blogger. But let's examine this, shall we? How many profes
LOL, Dean is a psycho, plain and simple.
And, drum roll please..... Laura wins!
Yeah, I'll second that. Apparently, I've said too much, and thus have been cut off off by the 2000 character limit.
Well, I think my point was made anyway.
Brent Roos
http://brentroos.blogspot.com
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