This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
Exactly. You had me scared for a minute that you were going to join the side of the protesters, but I'm glad to see you didn't head in that direction.
What I see here is yet another extension of the entitlement society that we've allowed to grow in this country. We are now at the point where, instead of not watching something that offends you—or doing a little parenting to keep your kids from watching something that offends you—people think they have the right not to be offended at all.
It's not that hard to avoid a couple of hours of television each week...
You are right that the people's choice on what they want to watch should not be taken away from them. But on the same token, the network's choice on what they want to broadcast is still their choice, wheather we like it or not.
In my opinion, there is always going to be somebody upset about something, it doesnt matter what side they're on. Everyone just needs to chill...take some vicodin, lol.
-Laura
Laura - I'm offended by your speech, and am going to petition Jenn to delete your comment. How dare you advocate vicodin, but not Jesus?
(For those with no sense of humor whatsoever, the above is a poor attempt at satirical humor).
It'd be nice if this cut both ways. I don't care what show a network runs, I don't watch them anyway.
But I don't see the protesters behavior any differently than what the left champions every day, albeit with other issues.
Didn't they pressure Sinclair not to run the Kerry documentary?
I wonder how they would feel if someone did a show that portrayed a "typical" liberal family as racist, wasteful, and greedy. (I know, I know, but bear with me.)
They would protest the shit out of it, call it hate speech and when the government wouldn't shut it down they would have the issue dragged before the Supreme Court.
In the meantime they would demoize any station that ran the program and its employees in the most vile speech ever.
These people are exercising their free speech. No one will have pies thrown at them. No cities will be destroyed. No one will be shouted down. No one will have posters with Nazi emblems painted on their faces.
I find it infinately humorous that far right forces have begun using the very method that the far left has used against it for years. And do so in a far more dignified way.
That said, their cause is a waste of time. Worrying about what is on TV is pointless. Turn the channel.
Both stations are owned by Nexstar Broadcasting Group of Irving, Texas. If you really want to complain, I'd go through them, not so much the stations themselves.
I've done a lot of writing about Nexstar lately and the NBC affiliate in Little Rock. Nexstar was about to pull KARK in Little Rock off the air on NYE because they were after retransmission consent fees from Comcast Cable.
This organization is all about money, and all of the press they're getting over this move equals A)free advertising; and B) more loyalty from their conservative advertisers, which of course translates into more money.
If you think they really care about whether or not they air an "offensive" show, then you're crazy. We all played right into their hands by raising a stink about their decision.
As far as my take goes, there's nothing on network television worth watching anyways, so I could care less. But choosing not to air this movie that 98 percent of the country will get to decide to watch (or not to watch)on their own is censorship and is more offensive than any painkiller-popping preacher man ever could be.
Laura, I agree that they have a choice too, but they aren't giving their viewers a choice.
The viewers should have the choice.
And you are right too Tea, we gave them the attention they wanted. But, I think that the group against the show inadvertantly got the show more attention than it would have gotten, and it will do better because of it.
At this point, I have half a mind to watch the stupid thing just to see what all the hoopla is about.
Last night I lowered myself enough to watch the "hit show" Dancing with the Stars. Just to see Jerry Rice ballroom dance. He was good, and I actually thought it was kinda fun to watch these b- actors dance.
Jerry, the guy's got skills. Not only was he one of the best football players to ever grace a field, but he can cha cha with the best of them. : )
I missed the show last night, but I did get sucked into that show last season. Actually, I got sucked into Kelly Monaco; I couldn't have cared less about the dancing.
Any hotties on there this year?
Not really.
Jerry Rice is a cutie, but I probably feel that way because I think he is the best football player to ever live.
It's Tia Carerre (looking a bit pudgy, but she just had a baby.)
Tatum O' Neil, some wrestler named Stacey Kiebler(?), George Hamilton,Drew Lachey,Kenny Mayne(he was hilarious, Master P. and Jerry... and I don't remember the rest.
Master P. was horrible, he didn't even remotely try, and when they talked to him, all he mumbled was something about "showing the black man what he could do", which after watching his lackluster dancing would mean they could do very little.I mean, his partner was shaking her rear all over the place (that was for you Will), and he just stood there. Poor thing, she was so nice about it too.
Thanks for the booty-shaking rundown. Not only was Jerry Rice one of the best football players ever, but he is probably one of the most classy guys to ever play, as well.
Kenny Mayne is the proud owner of the two best home run calls of all time:
"It must be a homer, Simpson, because the pitcher just went, 'Doh!'"
-and-
"I am king of the diamond! Let there be an abundant clubhouse feast! Bring me the finest meats and cheeses in all the land!"
Anyways, I guess it's only funny in his dry humor.
Have a good weekend everybody!
Hey Jenn, I just saw a list of the nation's most fit/unfit cities and San Diego was one of the most unfit? What up with that?
It's the East County, they rednecks are killing us.
Those quotes are funny as hell.
I am a huge fan of cheese.
Anybody see Howard Dean give Wolf Blitzer the smackdown? If not, here you go.
C'mon, you gotta give him props.
BLITZER: Let's talk a little bit about Iraq. The president sought to reach out to some of his critics earlier in the week, bringing in some former secretaries of state, including Madeleine Albright, among others -- William Cohen, the former defense secretary during the Clinton administration.
Are you satisfied right now that the president's getting enough information from a variety of sources to better move forward as far as the situation in Iraq is concerned?
DEAN: Well, most of the reports that came out of that meeting, Wolf, were that the president engaged in a filibuster of his own in there. He talked at them for some time and then went in for a photo op and really didn't bother to ask most of them for their advice at all.
So, I think these photo op ideas that he's going to get advice and they're really nothing more than photo ops -- I think we're in a big pickle in Iraq.
The president, frankly -- I was disgusted when I read in the New York Times yesterday that 80 percent of the torso injuries and fatalities in the Marine Corps could have been prevented if the Pentagon, the secretary of defense and the president had supplied them with armor that they already had.
They requested that from the field; the Pentagon refused. You know, I, two years ago, thought Secretary Rumsfeld ought to resign. He ought to resign.
These people are not qualified. They haven't served themselves; they don't know what it takes. They ought to protect our troops. Our troops are doing a hell of a job and they deserve better leadership in Washington than what they're getting.
I was incensed when I saw that story, 80 percent of the torso- based wounds that led to fatalities in the Marine Corps -- surely our Marines are worth something more than that.
BLITZER: About a month ago, Senator Joe Lieberman, the former Democratic vice presidential nominee spoke out, urging his fellow Democrats, including yourself, to restrain themselves in criticizing the president's position on Iraq. Listen to what Lieberman said.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. JOSEPH LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: It's time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander-in-chief for three more critical years, and that, in matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLITZER: What do you think? Is that advice good advice from Senator Lieberman?
DEAN: No. This president has lacked credibility almost from the day he took office because of the way he took office.
He's not reached out to other people. He's shown he's willing to abuse his power. He's not consulted others. And he's not interested in consulting any others.
And I think, frankly, that Joe is absolutely wrong, that it is incumbent on every American who is patriotic and cares about their country to s
.....stand up for what's right and not go along with the president, who is leading us in a wrong direction.
We're going in the wrong direction, economically, at home; we're going in the wrong direction abroad.
...
BLITZER: Should Democrats who took money from Jack Abramoff, who has now pleaded guilty to bribery charges, among other charges, a Republican lobbyist in Washington, should the Democrat who took money from him give that money to charity or give it back?
DEAN: There are no Democrats who took money from Jack Abramoff, not one, not one single Democrat. Every person named in this scandal is a Republican. Every person under investigation is a Republican. Every person indicted is a Republican. This is a Republican finance scandal. There is no evidence that Jack Abramoff ever gave any Democrat any money. And we've looked through all of those FEC reports to make sure that's true.
BLITZER: But through various Abramoff-related organizations and outfits, a bunch of Democrats did take money that presumably originated with Jack Abramoff.
DEAN: That's not true either. There's no evidence for that either. There is no evidence...
BLITZER: What about Senator Byron Dorgan?
DEAN: Senator Byron Dorgan and some others took money from Indian tribes. They're not agents of Jack Abramoff. There's no evidence that I've seen that Jack Abramoff directed any contributions to Democrats. I know the Republican National Committee would like to get the Democrats involved in this. They're scared. They should be scared. They haven't told the truth. They have misled the American people. And now it appears they're stealing from Indian tribes. The Democrats are not involved in this.
BLITZER: Unfortunately Mr. Chairman, we got to leave it right there.
Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic Party, always speaking out bluntly, candidly.
I hardly fail to see that as a smack down. Dean is both insane and an idiot.
Will, why don;t you do some research into how much was cut from the military budget for 8 friggin' years under Clinton.
Oh, and there are Dems involved in the Abramhoff deal Mz. Clinton is one.
Dean, is in denial.
So, anyway..... I watched a bit of this Book of Daniel show.
Frankly, it wasn't bad, at all. I might actually watch a whole episode, to see what it's like. Prety funny, had a good message, showed that nobody is perfect... blah,blah,blah.
I need to probably watch a whole episode, but what I saw was better than most of the crap on T.V. today.
Very interesting.
Give me some info on Hillary taking money from Abramoff. I hadn't heard anything about that. (Of course, I do live in Little Rock.)
I thought the Book of Daniel thing was a one-time movie - not a recurring show or series. Are you sure you watched it?
Yes. I assumed it was a show that would be going on.
Now, Will:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/.../5/
125414.shtml
Oh, and ouch:
News of Mrs. Clinton's Abramoff connection comes the same day that her 2000 Senate campaign acknowledged it violated Federal Election Commission regulations by hiding hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign cash given by Hollywood mogul Peter Paul.
How quickly ya'll forget:
All this transpires against the backdrop of the Clinton campaign finance scandal of the late 1990s, where millions of dollars of illegal Chinese campaign cash found its way into Democratic Party and Clinton legal defense fund coffers.
This one is a good read too:
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2.../6/
100900.shtml
And this:
• Senator Max Baucus (D-MT), who received at least $22,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN), who received at least $6,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), who received at least $20,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA), who received at least $21,765 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Tom Carper (D-DE), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), who received at least $12,950 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND), who received at least $8,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT), who received at least $14,792 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND), who received at least $79,300 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), who received at least $14,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), who received at least $45,750 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI), who received at least $9,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD), who received at least $14,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), who received at least $3,300 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator John Kerry (D-MA), who received at least $98,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA), who received at least $28,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Carl Levin (D-MI), who received at least $6,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT), who received at least $29,830 in Abramoff-linked cash.
• Senator Blanche Lincoln (
Oh, it just goes on and on... Will, you really think that the Republicans have the corner on scandal? It's politics Will, and if you don;t know that then...whoa!
How about Kennedy leaving Mary Jo to die, so he could cover his ass, and he's still in power. SICK.
Here then is the list of former Democratic members of Congress who were convicted or pleaded guilty to major offenses between 1992 and 1999:
Nick Mavroules, Massachusetts Democrat: tax evasion, accepting illegal gratuity (1992).
Albert Bustamante, Texas Democrat: racketeering (1993).
Carroll Hubbard, Kentucky Democrat: fraud and corruption (1994).
Carl Perkins, Kentucky Democrat: fraud (1994).
Charlie Rose, North Carolina Democrat: financial-disclosure irregularities (1994).
Larry Smith, Florida Democrat: tax evasion (1994).
Walter Fauntroy, District of Columbia Democrat: financial-disclosure misdemeanor (1995).
Gerald Kleczka, Wisconsin Democrat: arrested for DWI (1995 and 1990); convicted DWI (1987).
Mel Reynolds, Illinois Democrat: sexual misconduct (1995).
Walter Tucker, California Democrat: extortion (1995).
Charles Wilson, Texas Democrat: paid $90,000 fine to Federal Election Commission (1995).
Joe Kolter, Pennsylvania Democrat: fraud and conspiracy (1996).
Dan Rostenkowski, Illinois Democrat: mail fraud (1996).
Mary Rose Oakar, Ohio Democrat: financial-disclosure irregularities (199
.
Austin J. Murphy, Pennsylvania Democrat: vote fraud (1999).
Man, it goes on and on.
Want more?
The only president ever impeached strictly on grounds of personal malfeasance
Most convictions and guilty pleas
Most Cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
Most witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
Number of congressional witnesses who have pled the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122 (9/99)
Estimated number of witnesses quoted in FBI files misappropriated by the White House: 18,000
Number of witnesses who developed medical problems at critical points in Clinton scandals investigation (Tucker, Hale, both McDougals, Lindsey): 5
Problem areas listed in a memo by Clinton's own lawyer in preparation for the president's defense: 40
Number of witnesses and critics of Clinton subjected to IRS audit: 45
Number of names placed in a White House secret database without the knowledge of those named: c. 200,000
Number of women involved with Clinton who claim to have been physically threatened: 5 (Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Elizabeth Ward Gracen)
Number of men involved in the Clinton scandals who have been beaten up or claimed to have been intimidated: 9
Number of times Hillary Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in a statement to a House investigating committee: 50
Number of times Bill Clinton said "I don't recall" or its equivalent in the released portions of the his testimony on Paula Jones: 271
Number of times John Huang took the Fifth Amendment in answer to questions during a Judicial Watch deposition: 1,000 Larry corrected this figure and says it has grown to 1934 and with more testimony to come is expected to exceed 2000 and become "a new indoor world record".
Visits made to the White House by investigation subjects Johnny Chung, James Riady, John Huang, and Charlie Trie. 160
Number of campaign contributors who got overnights at the White House in the two years before the 1996 election: 577
Just go here:
http://www.urbin.net/EWW/polytic.../
democrats.html
Nothing but fun. NOT.
Damn, dude. Of course it's politics. I'm not stupid enough to believe that only republicans are criminals. You should know by now that I think all politicians at that level are criminals in some way or another. It's just how it works.
Defensive much? We were talking directly about the Abramoff situation, which is the current news.
When we're talking about millions and millions of dollars in political circles, there are going to be hundreds of indirect links to where that money originated. Though all of the people directly linked to Abramoff are republicans (not a democrat to be found with a direct tie), it appears that they were smart enought to at least not leave a direct paper trail. Now, whether or not that dirty money was nevertheless knowingly and illegally exchanged between Abramoff and the Dems, we'll never know for sure.
It's politics, but you have to admit the Dems won this one.
Jenn, you crack me up.......LOL
It's politics, but you have to admit the Dems won this one.
If they could win elections they would be a lot better off. Alas...
Oh, Teaparty, you're smart enough to know that it goes in cycles. The Dems will get theirs in 2008, without a doubt.
The Repubs weren't smart enough for Bush-One to win in 1992 - which was supposed to be a landslide for Bush all the way up to election day. Just like the Democrats weren't smart enough to oust his son in 2000 or 2004. (Voting disparities aside.)
What comes around goes around. Everybody gets their turn. Then all the Repubs will be digging endlessly to dig up scandals and dirt on the democrats, etc....... It's really a childish and poor way of running a country, but that's all we have.
More of the same...lame. PEZOUT!
I wrote about the show on my blog a week or so ago and made my feelings pretty clear. The show premise (pill popping preacher, alcoholic wife of preacher, gay Republican son, drug dealer daughter and slut adopted son) is pretty negative and as a Christian, I feel like its the left wing of Hollywood and their ilk taking another jab at people like me. I think its that premise which people find unacceptable.
From what I understand, people wrote emails, but of course, I'll never be offended by what I don't watch. I used to like Law & Order until they started portraying gun owners as Nazis. Turned that one off, too.
That's just it Jen, you won't get offended by what you don't watch. : )
By the way, like the new Blog.
By the way, I'm guessing you're still a Tom DeLay backer RepJen?
Well, that's offensive to me. And, just like when you say you feel like Hollywood is "taking a jab" at Christians like you, it makes me feel jabbed at when Christians (especially within government who can't seem to separate the two) try shoving God and values down my throat. That's not so easy just to turn off.
It's funny Will, I never feel like religion is being rammed down my throat.
Even the endless stream of Jehovah witnesses and Mormons who knock on my door don't bother me.... I just tell 'em to take a hike.
Will, you ever seen the movie Team America?
The end scene, when Kim Il Jong is going to blow up the world (9/11 x a thousand) and Gary makes the p*ssy,d*ck, assh*le speech? It's the best, because, even though it's crass, it's SOOOOOOOO true.
Haven't seen it, but plan to. A friend has burned some of the songs from the soundtrack on a CD for me. They're pretty damn funny.
Wal-Mart - F**k yeah!
Democrats - F**k yeah!
Video games - F**k yeah!
Books - dead silence.
Ramming something down your throat is a figure of speech, by the way. And is also a little strong for what I meant. RepJen, who I think is sheltered, racist, naive and a little retarded after visiting her blog a few times, was making it sound like the "libs" were always taking shots at Christians. My reaction was that Christianity is way more mainstream than anti-Christianity as far as where it's directed. They don't teach anti-Christian pledges to kids to say daily at school and the president doesn't say God sucks and good night at the end of every public appearance or speech.
Come on Will, the libs love Christian bashing. You've been to The Red Voice, been to the Blue Voice?
They are constantly bashing the hell out of Christians.
I think Christian bashing on blogs is a little different than the mainstream media, which is what RepJen was talking about.
Hell, I've even been known to do some Christian bashing, but only when it interferes with my rights or common, practical sense. There's a huge, hideous church here in Little Rock that actually has a Starbucks in it to serve its followers. Where to begin with that one, right?
What, are you saying they can't be high on caffiene and worship at the same time?
Come on Will, I thought you were more open minded than that.
It was just making a point at how mainstream and hypocritical Christianity is when they have a freaking Starbucks operating inside a 755,000-SF church.
.......And still operating as a nonprofit, by the way.
I would think, Will, that the Starbucks gets the revenue. : )
Think back to Katrina..... who helped out the homeless, misplaced and down trodden. Catholic/Christian charities. Thats who.
Nobody's saying that churches don't do volunteer work. That's completely off topic.
But since you brought it up, I bet there could've been a whole lotta downtrodden people who could've benefitted from that $32 million monstrosity of an extravagant church that was built. (And all the patrons buying $5 cups of coffee instead of buying a homeless guy lunch.)
Suck it Will. : )
What - a big giant teat? Good idea.
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