This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
Maines' original statement came when 74 percent of the country was still walking around with boners and wet panties for the Bush Administration's grandstanding and false rhetoric.
It was the right wing conservatives' talking points to label anyone who spoke out against these lies as "unpatriotic" or "traitors" or even "terrorists."
That was just one example of some right wing nut who took what she said (in England, mind you) and decided to exploit it to rally the right. Hell, it was probably Karl Rove. That has been, and will continue to be, the only platform the right has with this administration.
Next thing you know, people are out in the streets burning Dixie Chicks CDs and posters and piling them up and running them over with bulldozers. Now who's crazy again?
Anyone who isn't ashamed that Bush is the president of our country should be called a "traitor" or "unpatriotic" or a "terrorist." Especially now that it's three years later and the conveniently hidden facts are becoming more mainstream every day.
The Dixie Chicks were made an example of by the nutcases who were still trying to drum up support following 9/11 and the false war on terror.
If you're standing outside a concert burning CDs and holding signs because someone exercised their rights and spoke out against an obviously corrupt and dishonest President, you might be a redneck.
If your radio station banned an artist because of one sentence that about 74 percent of the country now agrees with, then you might be a redneck.
Or a right wing conservative nutcase with nothing better to do.
What you fail to understand Pete, is that they are still being ignored. People still don't want to hear from them. Their album bombed.
That speaks to the people that are tired of people ripping on this country, and it's president.
I'll stand by Bush, I may very much not agree with a lot of what he does, or says these days, but he's done an admirable job with little to work with, and in such a disgustingly partisan time it's ridiculous.
I love hypocrites like yourself who get their feathers all fluffed up when people react to a statement like Mianes's babyish whine. So, in Pete's world it's o.k. to give the President a load of crap, but not o.k. to give a Dixie Chick the same??? What a bout the Chick haters right to loathe her???? Isn't it their right to not like her???? Or do these people not get the same rights?
And, actually, it made it worse that she did it in a foreign country, rather than at home. That's what really dissapointed me.
Like I said, I still listen to them, I have all their prior CD's, I didn't burn them. But, I'll opt not to buy this new one simply because I think they just aren't what they were.
Everyone has an opinion about the government of their country. Right or Left-we are all still able to voice it. If we had government without balls then we may not be able to voice our opinions! The men and women who serve 'us' and our government are the true heros-they have been the ones to keep our freedom. Government with no balls=???
Thanks for reminding me why I stopped coming by here.
One last time, I'll try to show you and your worthless followers on this site how you never cease to amaze by the bullshit you write.
1.)"I love hypocrites like yourself who get their feathers all fluffed up when people react to a statement like Mianes's babyish whine. So, in Pete's world it's o.k. to give the President a load of crap, but not o.k. to give a Dixie Chick the same?"
A.) My feathers were ruffled? Really? My point was that Maines can do or say whatever she wants, which she did. The ones who's feathers were ruffled acted like children by calling the radio stations and boycotting their music and standing outside their concerts stomping on CDs and burning posters. They can do what they want, I never said they couldn't. It's just an extreme action to nothing, for the sake of rallying the crazy right wing nuts' war cry. Thanks for trying to paint me in that light, though. It was a nice (and predictable) touch to your non-argument.
2)"What you fail to understand Pete, is that they are still being ignored. People still don't want to hear from them. Their album bombed."
A). Really? Their album bombed? Oh, that's right, it wasn't released until this morning. Have you been monitoring every record store in the country this morning? Didn't think so.
B). Maybe their first single didn't do so hot because it just wasn't a good song. You know, for the same reason you say you won't buy the album. But, no, I'm sure it's because "people still don't want to hear from them."
C.) They'd rather rally behind redneck Toby Keith and his manly, conservative pandering and truck-driving ass.
D.) I think the Dixie Chicks will be just fine, thank you. No need to add them to your left vs. right list of hate. Their US tour following the England tabacle was still the No. 1 grossing tour that season, and will do just fine this summer.
3.) "That speaks to the people that are tired of people ripping on this country, and it's president."
A.) What, that only simple-minded country music listeners who boycott the Dixie Chicks are the only ones left that are tired of ripping the president and the USA? Nice one.
Hell, I don't even like the Dixie Chicks, and you have me defending their honor. At least they play their own instruments, I guess they have that going for them.
As for you, this blog is a prime piece of moronic ramblings that is accomplishing nothing except allowing your ego to grow with each misinformed and unthoughtful statement you post.
Have a nice life, San Diego.
By the way readers, did you know Jenn's husband is from England? I'm sure you saw that in one of the other 1,000 or so postings.
Wow... for someone that stopped coming to your site he/she sure had a lot to say.... and so crabby about it.
I loved the Dixie Chicks but after her statement I tossed their cd's. It wasn't only for what she said but rather her asshole attitude about it. Now that it's hip to be anti they are riding it for all it's worth. I hadn't heard that their new album tanked though. The newest statement that I thought was bizarre was the comment that one of the other chicks said;
"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."
To me she is saying, we only want you if you agree with us and only listen to us.
Wow Pete, for someone who vowed to never return, twice now, you sure have a lot to say. 99% of it as worthless as usual.
My husband being a LEGAL immigrant is very important in speaking towards my attitude in reagard to ILLEGAL imigrants. As I went through the process with him. Get over it Pete.
You mind telling me how one can be misimformed about their own OPINION???? I wasn't aware that they'd changed the word opinion to meaning something along the lines of "Pete's fantasy world facts".
Get over yourself Pete, you never even read what I write most of the time anyway. If you'd note, this post way highlighting the hypocrisy of Maines taking issue with others using their freedom of speech vs. her own right to do so.
Just like you.
I never really liked the DCs anyway
in responce to anny
A). Really? Their album bombed? Oh, that's right, it wasn't released until this morning. Have you been monitoring every record store in the country this morning? Didn't think so.
Numb Nuts the music critics panned the album. If the critics dont like it, the corporations that say what goes on play lists dont play it. No play no sales. So yes it bombed before it was released
It's being pulled left and right from country stations. Bomb diggity.
Let's see... we have this:
"So far, country radio stations are refusing to play the song,"
http://www.postchronicle.com/
new..._21219676.shtml
"Dixie Chick: Bush deserves no respect"
NEW YORK (AP) — The Dixie Chicks’ Natalie Maines apologized for disrespecting President George W. Bush during a London concert in 2003. But now, she’s taking it back."
*****Typical liberal flip flopper.
You people truly make me feel really good about myself. Thanks for that!
"If you'd note, this post way highlighting the hypocrisy of Maines taking issue with others using their freedom of speech vs. her own right to do so."
Oh, really? I thought I addressed that in my soliloquy, but you didn't read it or admit any fault in your ramblings.
Plus, although true that she did invite critics by saying what she did, my point was that it was to the extreme. I mean, redneck conservative radio stations banning an artist solely on their poitical beliefs? That's American. And Patriotic. And very narrow minded, really.
Nobody is banning Neil Young from classic rock radio stations. Nobody is banning Alec Baldwin movies and burning and trashing shit in the streets. Just admit it, it's ridiculous.
Yes, pulled from country radio stations because of their political stance, not because of the music. Get that straight. I haven't heard the new Dixie Chicks, but I can guarantee you it's not as bad as the shit that's usually in the country Top Ten, like "Boot Scoot Boogie" and "5 O'clock Somewhere" and simpleton shit like that.
Besides, go to Billboard's home page, or here http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/index.jsp
and you'll see that the lead story is headlined, "Hot New Product: New Dixie Chicks" album out now.
Again, I'm not a fan, but somebody needs to explain to you fools not to keep using these nutcase right wing examples as poster children for their platform. Jesus, as if Natalie Maines was the only celebrity to have a problem with this administration publicly.
So, in closing; wake up, smell the roses, expand your mind just a little, think for yourself, form your own opinion and protect our freedoms.
Or, just keep burning CDs and acting like an ass over nothing. Keep listening to brilliant country DJ's who know their bread and butter lies in the heart of simple, redneck, conservative do-gooders and bible thumpers.
Again Jenn, damnit, your link to a story talking about banning a song just proves my point even further.
Keep on keepin' on.
"Numb Nuts the music critics panned the album. If the critics dont like it, the corporations that say what goes on play lists dont play it. No play no sales. So yes it bombed before it was released"
Oh, just like The Davinci Code? Yeah, that bombed.
How can we miss you, Pete, if you never leave?
You know Pete, you really are an ass.....
"Personally, I still listen to the Chicks every once in awhile. They're pretty good. For country."-Jenn/from the actual post.
Your cute little use of the word "banning", when in reality the words used were "refusing", is such a typical lefty manuever, it must be in your trite little handbook.
"think for yourself, form your own opinion and protect our freedoms." Uh, Pete I am the only writer on this blog, so therefor, any commentary would indeed be my own opinion.
Dixie Chick Review:http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/31/
073008.php (LOL)
Actually the few people I know that saw the Davinci said is sucked donkey balls. Hollywierd get's a very limited amount of my money, I'll stick with the book.
BAN : n. 1. An excommunication or condemnation by church officials.
2. A prohibition imposed by law or official decree.
3. Censure, condemnation, refusal, or disapproval expressed especially by public opinion.
4. A curse; an imprecation.
5. A summons to arms in feudal times.
Keep trying, Jenn. I actually took "ban" from the many other stories posted and linked about this matter. It means the same thing, dipshit. Even I don't need a trite little handbook for that one.
Your "refusing" to read what I write and form an argument of your own is is such a "typical RIGHTY maneuver." Or, maybe it's just that you patented that move.
Go back and read through some posts, please. Just to critique yourself, if anything.
You look like an ass.
"Actually the few people I know that saw the Davinci said is sucked donkey balls. Hollywierd get's a very limited amount of my money, I'll stick with the book."
Again, missing the point.
In fact, let's investigate this further. This could be a very good and undisputable example for everyone to see.
One of your only replies to the lengthy responses I've been giving has been to handpick the word "ban" out of my argument and accuse me of "typical lefty maneuver[ing]" by using that word, when in fact, "banning" and "refusing to play" are exactly the same thing, in this context.
Bravo, Jenn. Bravo.
Classic blogging there.
"Your "refusing" to read what I write and form an argument of your own is is such a "typical RIGHTY maneuver."
I read what you blather Pete old chap, it's just such a waste of my time to even bother responding to someone like you who obviously has "issues".
You often use your handbook to pick out a single word or sentence and then harp on that one sentence for about 15 worthless rambling comments.
That you choose to use such endearing terms like "dipsh*t" when referring to me only shows how right I am. : )
You are very funny. Thanks for playing kiddo.
Oh, and looky I can use a dictionary too. Wow!!!!!!
re·fuse
To indicate unwillingness to do, accept, give, or allow: She was refused admittance. He refused treatment.
To indicate unwillingness (to do something): refused to leave.
To decline to jump (an obstacle). Used of a horse.
v. intr.
To decline to do, accept, give, or allow something.
ban
To prohibit, especially by official decree.
Isn't that cute how you left that one out, which is really what a Ban is. Again.....Your cute little use of the word "banning", when in reality the words used were "refusing", is such a typical lefty manuever, it must be in your trite little handbook.
I may look like an ass on occasion, but you dear, are an ass everyday.
"Oh, just like The Davinci Code? Yeah, that bombed."
Movie industry and Music industry have 2 different marketing controllers. Movies have distribution companies that blackmail theaters into taking the movies they want to give them in packages. The distribution company makes theaters take dogs with the hit movies. Dont want the dog? cant get the hit.
Music industries have corporations that own radio stations that decide what to put in the play list. If they corp doesnt like it, it doesnt go on the play list.
So no its not just like the DaVinci Code
Anyone else feel Pete's spittle all the way from Arkansas as he foams at the mouth? : )
Bwahahahaha!
Thanks for letting me try to get all that out so I can disappear again for a while. At least until I see the thermometer on the bullshit volcano ready to boil over again.
Thanks also for helping me prove a point, guys. As always, you didn't prove a thing or provide anything meaningful other than your conservative narrow-mindedness.
It's okay, it's on the record here for anyone to see!
Oh, and I don't want to forget old WMD Maker's last point, which shows he's just as good a bullshitter as you are, Jenn.
People buying tickets to a movie that's already there, despite bad reviews from religious and right-nuts and regular critics, (and boycotts/refusals/bans), is exactly the same as people buying The Dixie Chicks album despite bad reviews. Yes, more people would rush out and buy it if it were shoved down their collective throats by radio airplay, but the argument was based on it bombing before it even came out. We'll see where it ranks on next week's charts, "numb nuts." Your point about how the business supposedly works is moot.
Besides, your "no play no sales" bullshit isn't always true. The radio never played Phish but their albums, "Billy Breathes" in particular, debuted at No. 3. Same with The Dead. Same with Tool. Etc ...
I haven't had the time to read the above posts, so in case someone has already posted the obvious, I'll just be a second voice.
The reason I'm annoyed with Natalie Maines is not so much what she said - she has a right to her opinions - it's the fact she said it in a foreign country. Now she's in the same company as Clinton, Gore and Carter - very disgraceful!
There was a time - not so long ago - when there was a fine tradition in this country. A tradition in which a person(s) may vehemently disagree with this country's policies, but those disagreement's stayed within the borders/shores. We were a family in that regard and we did not trash-mouth our family to outsiders, we kept the squabbling WITHIN the famly.
I wish a return to those days.
As usual Pete, you didn't read, and missed what WMD said. Typical.
Thanks also for helping me prove a point, Pete. As always, you didn't prove a thing or provide anything meaningful other than your liberal/Dem closed-mindedness.
See ya. : )
By the way, it's cute how you totally ignored this:
re·fuse
To indicate unwillingness to do, accept, give, or allow: She was refused admittance. He refused treatment.
To indicate unwillingness (to do something): refused to leave.
To decline to jump (an obstacle). Used of a horse.
v. intr.
To decline to do, accept, give, or allow something.
ban
To prohibit, especially by official decree.
Isn't that cute how you left that one out, which is really what a Ban is. Again.....Your cute little use of the word "banning", when in reality the words used were "refusing", is such a typical lefty manuever, it must be in your trite little handbook.
Lol. Thanks for the laugh kiddo.
Funny - he calls me "beyotch" and calls Jenn "numb nuts" - no wonder the left is in so much trouble.
Dude, you're sick, Jenn.
I read your definitions. The definition I found in my Webster's right in front of me was exactly how I posted it, with the word "Ban" right in there with "refusal."
It IS the same thing, in most cases. And you're harping on something that means nothing, as usual.
Do a "Google" on "Dixie Chicks Ban" and a million links to a million stories come up, all calling stations' "refusal" to play the DC's a "ban."
Here are the first five, since you say I never use links.
http://www.cushingdaily.com/
opin...eyword=topstory
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday...F1?
OpenDocument
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamihe...ic/
14607226.htm
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles...?
headlines=true
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story...939221&
nav=1TjD
Now, you'll say I'm the one harping on something not important. And, maybe you'll say it's the lefty media using a more harsh word than needed. You'll probably pick something else out to ignore this. You'll also probably start saying the liberal media is putting AIDS in your cereal.
The truth is, the more you post, the more trite and insignificant you look.
As far as WMD is concerned, you again just mentioned that he was right and I was wrong, but provided nothing of substance, so I guess I'll just have to take your word on that. Even though any normal human being can just read the above posts and see for themselves there's no substance to find.
Seriously, keep posting about this "refusal" / "ban" thing. It's hilarious.
No, thank you for the laughs, kiddo.
Seriously, Cary, you're killing me with the utter hilarity of your wise cracks. Stop it, please! My sides are freaking splitting.
Besides, I was calling WMD "numb nuts" because that's what he called me in his rant.
Read. Understand. Comprehend.
Join us next time.
LOL... Liberal spin machine at work!Ladies and gentlemen......I give you Pete!
Me:"As usual Pete, you didn't read, and missed what WMD said. Typical."
Let's now hear what I did not say....
Pete says: "you again just mentioned that he was right and I was wrong,".
I clearly stated that you missed the point, it's just a side benefit that you are indeed wrong. : )
By the way, you used Dictionary.com, because even your cut and paste was in the same format, here's what Miriam Websters has to say:
Main Entry: ban
1 archaic : CURSE
2 : to prohibit especially by legal means ; also : to prohibit the use, performance, or distribution of
intransitive senses : to utter curses or maledictions
There is no "ban". Call it what you want it's just semantics, how about you call it a boycott. That's really what it is, some people CHOOSE to boycott the Chicks. As I said, I still listen to them.
Enough on that.
Now, where else were you wrong???
Pete:"Do a "Google" on "Dixie Chicks Ban" and a million links to a million stories come up, all calling stations' "refusal" to play the DC's a "ban."
Results 1 - 10 of about 227,000 for dixie chicks ban. (0.06 seconds)(This was the result of my Google search.....hmmm decidely a few less links/stories than "millions". The you've got to rememebr how Google works, of these 227,000 some may just have Dixie, or just Ban, or just Chicks. : )
Now, what's this about the liberal media putting AIDS in my cereal!!!!! Gah.... they really are scary!!!!
Sorry to harp on getting your facts straight, but refusing to play something and banning it are two different things. One is a choice, one is not. Only you and your ilk could possibly think they are the same.
Bwahahahahahahah.
Seriously, this is just prolonging the hilarity, Jenn.
I was right, you did pick out another minute (that's my-noot, Jenn) detail, like the thing about right/wrong - missing the point. Jesus, get a clue. You still didn't provide any details.
And, that definition I gave you is exactly where I said I found it, my 2001 Webster's paperback right here in front of me. I'll photocopy a picture and post it as a JPEG if you'd like.
But, again, that's all beside the point.
If programming directors at some of the country's biggest radio stations are calling it a "Dixie Chicks ban," then that's good enough for me. Ban/boycott/refuse to play - what's the freaking difference in the context of the argument? I'll answer that - absolutely none.
That's like Bush saying, "And don't forget Poland," when he was trying to list the "hundreds" of countries with supporting us with troops in Iraq. Minute. That's right, Jenn; my-noot.
Get an argument. Call me when you're ready.
Ok - I'm new here. It seems to me that the nameless poster keeps talking about the so-called hate and ignorance of "conservatives" yet his/her posts are full of name calling and real ANGER. Wow! Interesting.
Again, show me where "Pete The Liberal Spin Machine" was at work again?
Yes Wit, Anon is Pete. He's very special.He's bloated from his overconsumption of Kool Aid, and his total inability to read.
My favorite part is how he picks up on a my-noot point, and beats it. Dead horse my little Petey. Dead.
Please do take your own advice, and get an argument. All you do is make grandious statements, then whine when confronted with the truth.
Honey your so full of it, I can smell you from here.
I;ve heard of them but never heard their music...it';s freedom of speech but bad PR
I especially like it when you have to explain things to him 2 or 3 o4 times because he either doesnt see it or cant seem to comprehend what you are telling him
I dont know what radio station he listens to but Phish, the Dead and Tool are played quite alot on radio stations in San Antonio, Dallas, Austin and Houston not to mention stations all over the country. It not "supposedly" how the industries work it IS how they work.
As for Ban vs refusal
Ban has no choice you can not play it if you wanted to without official repercussions
Refusal is they dont want to play it, they can play it they just dont want to
..who know their bread and butter lies in the heart of simple, redneck, conservative do-gooders and bible thumpers.
Or, as those in the know call them, the electorate. You know, the same one that rejects your sorry pinko asses every election?
Way to be persuasive, though: "Vote for us, or we'll call you rednecks!" 
Yes, WMD, it's easy for those of us with brains to figure out. Pete. Not so easy.
Man, how many Dead shows did I go to???? Too many to count. Seen Tool a few times too. In fact they'll be here for Street Scene. And on the way how from work,They played a Tool block. Phish....wanna be's.
The thing is....the B Boys, Madonna, many others, they've slammed the crap out of Bush, but I still listen to their music. (Well, Madonna not so much these days, she's getting "tired"). But the way that the Chicks have handled this whole thing, the comments they've made in the last few weeks.....whatever, I'm over 'em. They were never that good.
Petie: "I'm leaving! OK, I mean it this time! OK, I double-dog swear I'm leaving, and don't you rednecks try and stop me!
Please? Stop me? OK, don't make me threaten to leave again, or I might actually REALLY, REALLY mean it this time!"
We're dealing with a cerebral assassin here, folks! Oops...I just set myself up for a lethal "Not me, but you, doodie-head!"
One last nutcracker for Pete
Yes the DCs had the highest grossing concert tour that year however the act with the highest ATTENDANCE that year was Kenny Chesney. Which means 2 things
1 more people saw fit to see Kenny and
2 The DCs decided to screw their fans by charging more to go see them
Doodie head....Ah, the level to which Pete types bring us.
WMD... you do mean highest grossing country groups right? I mean more people didn't go see Kenny Chesney than say, the Stones?
There may have been more people go see Kenny than the Stones. They only do about 10-15 shows in the US while Kenny probably did 40-50 in basically the same size venues. I wouldnt be suprised to find that country is the largest genre in music. What we consider rock is divided into 4 or 5 genre.
If you are refused service because you aren't wearing shoes, that is not a ban. If you put shoes on, you meet the criterion for service. If you "refuse" t wear shoes and cause a ruckus, that will probably get you banned. I'm assuming even a liberal can understand that difference.
I'am also assuming most radio stations don't usually prefer to not play popular songs. They might be refusing to play this one, but there is probably no outright ban on all Chicks' music.
As for me, I don't listen to Country Music anyway. I don't believe I've ever even heard song by the Dixie Chicks. I generally refuse to listen to Country. I listen to Classical - you know - Bach, Beethoven and the boys. As a point of fact, the six Brandenburg Concertos of Bach are musical proof there is a God.
VW
Just thought I'd check in this morning to see what happened once the day care closed after I left yesterday ...
Yup, more silly games!
Keep feeling good about yourselves ...
Jenn, one last thing on this argument, I dare you to go back and read from the beginning and then try to tell me I'm the one beating minute points like a dead horse. Also that I don't have an argument. Also that I was the one skirting the issues. Etc.......
The proof is in the puddin', puddin'.
Pete, I dare you to go back and read from the beginning and then try to tell me I'm the one beating minute points like a dead horse. Also that I don't have an argument. Also that I was the one skirting the issues. Etc.......
Petie says in comment #4: One last time, I'll try to show you
Petie says in the next-to-last comment to this one: Jenn, one last thing on this argument...
How many "last times" count before there is a "REAL, HONEST-TO-(fill in deity du jour here), I'M NOT KIDDING" last time?
Very nice, Jenn. Now we're in the repeating game ...
And Jonathan, mind yo'biz, man.
Pete,
Does your refusal to address my point mean that you are banning me?
VW
Pete doesn't get the point. So he can't address it.
Oh, and don't tell Jonathan to mind his own, or I'll have you BANNED!!!! LOL.
And Jonathan, mind yo'biz, man.
I'm tempted to, but I get such a kick out of exposing you as the mental midget liar that you are...why deprive myself of that kind of amusement?
Pete
I am trying to see things from your point of view, I just cant seem to get my head that far up my butt.
How do you do that?
Wah! Bullies! Wah!
Insecure much?
right on Dixie Chicks! they were ahead of the curve. unfortunatly the average american is a bit slow mentally and somehow bush won reelection in 2004. I think now that people are finally realizing what a clown he is.
Hey, Band Dude! Like, pass the bong and like, gleam the cube or hang 10 or whatever...dude!
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