This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........

Gravatar Just a friendly reminder: you forgot to include how you're sorry they were sent to die in a pointless war based on lies.

You ARE sorry they're dying, right? Oh, right, you're a conservative. I forgot. Conservatives don't support the troops at all.

Bye, you silly little wingnut idiot!


Gravatar Brad, I apologized on your behalf, for being a worthless piece of scum sucking sh*t.

You should be thanking me.


Gravatar Brad, you are so full of BS. It is your type that spit on the troops. It is people like you that run recruiters off of campus. It is people like you that ultimately cause more people to die and suffer because you are so selfish, that you ar incapable of any kind of real sacrifice. Oh, I'm sure you donate a few cans of food to the local food bank and you probably join in a moonbat march now and again, but you ain't got the guts to do what it takes to rid the world of real eveil like Saddam Hussein. You ain't got the guts to do what it will take to diffuse Iran. You don't have the guts to help eradicate terrorism. You sit in your little crappy apartment somewhere, smelling a bit like the bud you just smoked, and spew your crap.

You are what is wrong with this country. You are what is wrong with the world. You expect everything to be given to you at someone else's expense. You and people like you are leeches on the ass of society. You don't want some jihadist crazed terrorist blowing your smelly ass up, but you won't lift a finger to stop them. Take your non support of the troops and stuff it right up the same orifice you spewed your little moronic diatribe came from.

And yeah, I did my twenty years of Active duty.

VW


Gravatar Let me join you in your apology. I'm apologizing for:

the millions (literally) of rightwing pro-war drones in this country who scream "Support Our Troops!" while doing absolutely NOTHING to back up their slogans. They're sitting on their butts at the college campus, the country club, in the boardroom, at the bar, etc. Talk about parasites! Their only "contribution" is shouting hateful slogans at anyone who disagrees with them. They should either put on a uniform and get their asses over to Iraq and join the fight, or shut the F%$#! up.

I'm sure you intended to mention the above-mentioned %$#@&#wipes in your post but simply forgot.


Gravatar By Tom's pisspoor "logic", I cannot cheer for any NFL team if I never played for them. It would make no sense for me to put on a Jaguars t-shirt and root the team on, since I never played for the Jags. Right?

This is a pattern I've seen with the leftists:

A bunch of pot-smoking patchouli-smelling unemployable socialist hippie retreads that "protest" the troops they hate are seen as "patriots" and are just exercising their First Amendment rights; while...

A group of Americans who actually voice SUPPORT for the troops are a bunch of "chickenhawks" who should, according to Mr. Harper, "shut the F%$#! up".

I'm guessing the troops like OUR free speech better than yours, you irrational illogical #sshole!


Gravatar Tom Harper: "Their only "contribution" is shouting hateful slogans at anyone who disagrees with them."

Excuse me, hypocrite?


Gravatar Brad, and Tom are exactly the types I am apologizing for.


Gravatar Man, don't fall off that soap box, Jenn, while you're rallying your right-wing nut base. I almost shed a tear wading through that sap.

First of all, you're right, people should support the troops and keep them in their thoughts and prayers. I had a both a brother and a close cousin that passed in 2003 at the hands of a road-side bomb planted by the people who were to "greet us as liberators."

You lost me when you turned all hypocritical by spewing your absolute hate for anyone who disagrees with you. Like the soldiers care. I know, I know, you'll answer with something like, "all of the people I know serving there or that have served their (you'd misspell it) are all super heroes and just want to free the people of Iraq."

Well, let's first just lay down some facts.
It is true, we were rushed and lied into a false war. You can't argue that. There's just way too much evidence out there for you nutsos to keep thinking we're there for 9/11's sake.

So, yes, I feel bad for every soldier who signed up to serve thinking our government would respect their human life and honor their commitment by not putting them in harm's way unless absolutely necessary.

That's what is sick, Jenn. Yes, support the troops, but attack our government in hopes that this will never happen again.

And don't even get me started on your buddy Rumsfeld.


Gravatar Pete, you are one messed up individual.

First let's really address the average people of Iraq.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opi...al- suwaij_x.htm

"To end the war against the Iraqi people, Saddam must go. I say this as someone who has suffered through more than a decade of war — but also as someone who saw Iraq free from Saddam's rule for one week."

Read it Pete, all of it.

And this: One was Colonel Muayed al-Nasseri, who said that Saddam had set up his group, Muhammad's Army, after the fall of Baghdad. Under interrogation he said that his group had been receiving aid from both Iran and Syria, neither of which wish to see a democracy in Iraq. He said Iran had given them "one million dollars... cars, weapons... even car bombs".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ commen...1396944,00.html

Educate yourself Pete.

You "Bush Lied, People Died" freaks have no idea what you are talking about. WHAT OIL PETE, WHAT OIL??????? We've got no oil, we're not going to get any for a long time Pete. And they'd have to pretty much give us every single drop to make up for in direct costs of this war.

We are in Iraq to help finish what we should have finished in 1991 when we pulled out under pressure from assh*les like you who whined about it.


Gravatar Second, who here thinks Iraq had anything to do with 9/11? I never have. Ever. Why do you Pete? Did you think they were connected?

Lame, tired pathetic rhetoric from you again. I'm tired of your sad attempts.

Yes Pete, I hate most liberals. I hate the ones who were spreading that sick Jesse MacBeth video, all in the name of peace. I hate hypocrits like Cindy Sheehan who care about no one but themselves.

I loathe with a passion, those on the left who think that their right to free speech means they can spit on a soldier, give comfort to the enemy and burn MY flag.

You've got that right.


Gravatar Well, let's first just lay down some facts.

...was followed by...

It is true, we were rushed and lied into a false war.

I thought you were going to "first just lay down some facts"?

"False" war? You mean that's NOT a war going on in Iraq? Damn...I need a pair of glasses!

Silly little moonbat f#ckwit!


Gravatar Pete
For the last time "WMD" as defined by th UN means banned weapons or material NOT just nukes. There was banned material found in Iraq. Missiles capable of further range than allowed by the UN, advanced electronics in aircraft that was banned, warheads capable of delivering chemical weapons which were supposed to have been destroyed but were not, mobile chem labs "for making baby formula" why the f*$# does anyone need a mobile lab for baby formula? There was evidence of a nuclear program not yet in the build the bomb phase yet.
I do not like how the war is being run like a training exercize instead of a war. Take an objective and leave and come back next week and do it again, that is what is getting out troops killed. This is so the "civilians" arent traumatised by our troops. Screw them they are the ones who let the idot Saddam control them they deserve being traumatised.


Gravatar To Miss Jenn: Your letter was very touching and eloquent. Thank you for putting into words what many of us feels. I would just argue the point that the support people feel for the war on terror really hasn't changed. It's HOW it's being handled - by our government - that irritates folks. Generally speaking, if you leave the military alone to do their job, they get the job done. It's when the government interfers that things get mucked up (i.e. Vietnam).

The best comment I ever heard about this whole situation was: The world is a village and the Middle East is the idiot. Personally, I'm so fed up with these people that I think the whole area would make a very nice glass ashtray.

And to the folks above (except VW - thank you for your service): It always amazes me how people who might disagree with someone else's view on things immediately resort to name calling. The fact you are able to freely articulate your opinion is in no small measures due to the sacrifice of our military heros, please never forget that. They will always state they may not agree with your opinion, but they will defend to the death your right to say it.

I don't believe we are in Iraq based on lies (and no, I don't feel like going into it now - it would make a book and I actually have things to do today!), no matter how people like to spin opinion into facts. I live in the DC area and get "spin" of every flavor!

What I do miss very much in this country is the loss of civility in just about every aspect of life. I also very much practice the old adage of "agreeing to disagree" with no hard feelings.


Gravatar Stay the course, Jenn.

Pete, if you are going to stop visting, then stop visiting. You want us to believe you do what you say, then do what you say. Otherwise, you will continue to be viewed as a flip-flopping hypocrite liberal whiner and we will not be able to put any stock in what you say, ever.


Gravatar and we will not be able to put any stock in what you say, ever.

Cary, you mean you put stock in what he says now??


Gravatar Wow, you guys are really honched up and ready to dig your conservative fingernails into the first cat to disagree. It's pretty funny, really.

Regardless, Jenn, you better watch what you say around here or your blind followers will turn on you for saying liberal stuff like this; "Second, who here thinks Iraq had anything to do with 9/11? I never have. Ever. Why do you Pete? Did you think they were connected?"

I think the reason why I, along with the rest of the world, thought they were connected is because our President of the United States, the most powerful leader in all the world, along with everyone else in Bush Co. and the military, were all shoving it down our throats that we were getting revenge for 9/11 and getting those damned Al Qaeda members because they're all hiding in Iraq underneath lethal WMDs that "can be aimed and fired at us," according to Colin's speech to the UN.

Don't give me this faulty intelligence bullshit, either.

Wow, our leaders are fantastic. You guys keep supporting these fools, okay?

And, Cary, put stock in this, fool: I won't be back and you can take that to the unmarked soldiers' graves.

One day the light will shine where you all will be able to see you've been wasting your time and "thoughts" defending nothing but lies and corruption.

And I'll laugh, and maybe come back and post: "Told ya' so."



SO LONG SUCKERS!


Gravatar thanks Jenn... as a person that has someone they love at war in Iraq I appreciate your post. I'll send it to A.

Remember that Memorial Day is Monday, please take some time to show your respect to the Men and Women that died for us.

p.s. on behalf of my dad... why is the Coast Guard left out of that picture!?

thanks!


Gravatar "I, along with the rest of the world, thought they were connected is because our President of the United States, the most powerful leader in all the world, along with everyone else in Bush Co. and the military, were all shoving it down our throats..."

Pete, believes everything the government tells him. Sad. Put down the Kool-Aid and step slowly away.


Gravatar That was me above.

Kelly,sorry for not including the coast guard. As a San Diegan, I am well aware of the contributions of the coast guard everyday. They protect our waterways, and bays, and act as a virtual fence keeping illegals from hurting themselves by boating in poor craft to our waters.

A heartfelt thank you to all our friends in the coast guard.Big Time!!!!!!!


Gravatar The Coast Guard is not technically a part of the armed forces it is under the control of Homeland Security. They do however deserve a hearty thanks for the work they do with the last stop before the junkyard equipment they are given.


Gravatar Jenn,

I'm sending a link to this post to my soldier/marine/airman/sailor friends here in Baghdad.

You're a great American!


Gravatar Armand, you are too! I thought of you and all the guys over there when I wrote it.


Gravatar Great Post!


Gravatar Jenn -- The irony is probably lost on you, but: you've commented at my site several time, and my answers were a lot more polite than your name-calling responses over here. If you're dumb enough to ever comment at my site again, prepare to be dragged through the mud.

Jonathan Leffingwell: I'm sure you're not one of those cowards who leaves vulgar name-calling comments and then INTENTIONALLY leaves out his URL. It must have been an oversight. You surely meant to fill in the URL field with:

http://crushliberalism.blogspot.com/

There, don't say I never did anything for you.


Gravatar Ah, Tom....yes, I've commented on the idiocy of your blog a few times while surfing past. I just couldn't help myself. Someone needs to help you pull your head out of your ass.

LOL. Such a funny little man.


Gravatar I love a good liberal bashing in the afternoon.


Gravatar Tom,

Thank you for bringing my attention to my blog being left out. It was indeed an oversight. Hell, what kind of blogger would I be to intentionally miss out on drawing more visitors, especially those as intellectually devoid as Peter Puffer and those as warped by moonbattery as you?

Speaking of Mr. Puffer, he took you up on your cyberstalking and paid me a visit to my humble abode. Charming chap, when he's not hitting the crack pipe or mason jar of moonshine!

Seriously, I'm flattered that you were so moved by my witty banter that you Googled me. Normally I get dinner and a movie before someone tries to score, but you go right for the gusto, don't you? I hate to disappoint you, but I don't "bat for that team", if you smell what I'm cookin'! "Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

Besides, you refuted nothing I observed. The troops don't like you bastards, evidenced by the fact that they never vote for guys. They're kinda funny about being insulted, falsely accused of war crimes, having their mission belittled, being spat upon by your tie-dyed ilk, etc. They can be SO hypersensitive sometimes, huh?

You've been an amusing museum piece, dipsh#t, but I'm moving on to the next exhibit. Ciao, bella!


Gravatar What's reallt disturbing about the libbies commentsabove, is not one of them said,"Hey Jenn, I do support my troops."


Gravatar I went and looked at Tom's website. It almost had me crying with all the WAAAAAWAAAAAAAAAA going on. And all the wonderfull Oh ya you are soooo right comments. Not one with a new idea or opinion for the situation.
I guess that is what happens when you are told what to think


Gravatar WMD,

I decided to check out Tom's blog, too. After all, he stalked me first, so I guess it's only fair.

Wow...just freakin' "Wow!" What a carnival of glue-sniffing moonbats he's got over there, huh? I almost broke out one of their tinfoil hats so I could blend in!

Thank God (for those of you on the left, He's the Creator of the universe) those people aren't in power!


Gravatar JL
Cant have winners if you have no losers


Gravatar I guess I'll be unable to refrain from commenting on Toms "blog" again in the future, so he'll have to drag me through the mud. Should be fun. ; )


Gravatar Jenn-

What gives you the power to think you can apologize for others? Your mindless drivel makes us all wonder if you have enough sense to apologize for your own stupidity.

In the future, don't feel obliged to even think of acting on behalf of me. I've done enough on my own.

It's about time to give it up.

This country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime, and you're supporting things?

I'm sick of seeing your blog, and it amazes me how blinded some people can be. You for one have been brainwashed more than most. I find it hilarious that with the approval rating of Bush, you can still speak with such conviction.

You can probably imagine that even less of the surfers agree with you as well. Or are most bloggers conservatives like you, that are too busy sitting on their asses making excuses than trying to solve the problems in the world?


You think that you have all the answers, and it appears there's a golden excuse for everything.

I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative. I'm American, and I'm telling you to shut up already. You're making yourself looking like a pompous windbag.


Gravatar "What gives you the power to think you can apologize for others?"

"The right to freedom of speech is guaranteed under international law through numerous human rights instruments, notably under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."

Oh, and.....that pesky first amendment.

Next.


Gravatar John
You must be pretty young. Life under Jimmy was no picnic. Cheap housing mortgages 10%, gas lines up the ying yang. I can only think that if Gore had been president we would be enjoying major bombings in every major city, be speaking Farsi or Persian, walking around with towels on our heads bowing to the east 5 times a day. He probably would have abdicated the presidency to Fox and the Canadians would be building a fence on their southern border.


Gravatar Jenn.......I seriously like your style. Whack 'em where it hurts with blunt truth. I spent 14 yrs in the USAF and anybody whining on the left would be amazed at the selfless sacrifice these young men and women give us. They go to extraordinary lenghts to avoid collateral damage and civilian deaths and when the unfortunate does happen they treat them as one of their own and give them the best medical care possible. The left is in a constant state of denial. For them to admit anything would mean they're wrong and their carefully constructed little reality would come crumbling down. Keep up the good work.....


Gravatar Helpful hint for Jonathan ("I'm too scared to show my URL") Leffingwell: When somebody is always, and I mean ALWAYS, implying that their opponent is gay, it usually turns out that THAT person is gay. This is such a common occurrence, it's almost a cliche. Just trying to help you out there, Nancy.

BTW, I didn't have to Google you to find your URL. I remembered your name from Mike's America, since you're one of his devoted worshippers.

Also, I was in the Navy during Vietnam. Did you ever serve or are you one of those chickenhawks?


Gravatar I used to be brainwashed - I remember my classmates wearing t-shirts to school that read "I'm American - I Apologize", I remember teachers teaching us that nothing and I mean NOTHING America ever did was right or good.

I remember troops coming home and being spate upon, assalted, their medals torn off their uniforms, being called baby killers, urine thrown on them and the police just standing by and laughing and saying things like "you damn well better not defend yourself boy! I'll arrest your ass!

I remember our people being killed all over the world, just for being American, even though we had a socialist appeaser for a President who believed in doing no harm to anyone and giving our enemies everything they could possibly ask for plus more.

I remember waking up and seeing for the first time what horrid shape our country was in because of these peace-niks! I remember voting for the first time - for Ronald Reagan. I remember the whole socialist world was horrified and we were all going to end in a fiery ball! I remember the Berlin Wall falling and the Soviet Union ceasing to exist virtually overnight!

I remember another socialist coming to power and the seeming peaceful years we had. I remember Mogodishu. I remember the Kobal (sp) Towers, I remember the Cole. I remember the embassy's. I remember the prez shooting a rocket up a camels butt and destroying a plant that made the regions only medicine. i also remember that just a couple of years ago the Chinese finally were able to get a rocket off the ground - thanks to the treason of this bastard and his givng our technology to these people for money.

I also remember 9/11 which was the last guys fault, but blamed on the new guy who couldn't even get his cabinet approved. I remember he bided his time, and instead of shooting a rocket up a camels butt he kicked Moslim butt.

This is pretty much the last forty years of my life and if this is the worst shape our country has ever been in, at this point in time, then I would say the person who said it must be about 10 years old.

It has been our policy under socialist (read democrats) presidents that has made us seem weak to a people who spit on weakness. They never laid a glove on us when we stood strong and showed every inclination that we'd "hit back". It's been the turn the other cheek policy that has emboldened these fascists to hit harder and more frequently.

If nothing else, the war is where it should be - over there and not here. It may be a magnet for every nutcase out there, but - it's over there and not here. That's just the way I want to keep it.

I still think the whole area would make a nice ashtray!


Gravatar Tom
Where did Johnathan gayness. I read and reread several times the posts here and cannot find once where he implied someones gayness. Are there new gay code words?
And I just have to ask were you on Kerry's swiftboat crew?


Gravatar Helpful hint for Jonathan ("I'm too scared to show my URL") Leffingwell.

Apparently, Mr. Hippie...er, Harper...would be well-served by getting a copy of Hooked on Phonics. I'm seeing where I replied to him the following:

"Thank you for bringing my attention to my blog being left out. It was indeed an oversight."

If you need a translator, feel free to get one. I'll wait.........OK, moving on along...

Besides, see the blue link beside my name in the comment above that says Homepage? That will take you to...yep, even a liberal can guess it: my homepage! And just so there's no confusion again (which, with you, is clearly no guarantee), my homepage is as follows:

http://crushliberalism.blogspot.com/

See the blue link beside my name following this comment? Rumor has it that if you click on it, it will take you to the exact same place as the aforemention link takes you, namely my...oh, this is getting redundant, isn't it?...homepage!

Considering that Petie and even Jenn have had their comments show up as Anonymous, it's safe to say that the commenting mechanism called Haloscan doesn't always jive well with cookies. I'll spare you the techie-speak, especially since English seems to be kicking your ass today!

When somebody is always, and I mean ALWAYS, implying that their opponent is gay, it usually turns out that THAT person is gay.

Damn...you pegged me. Wait...that's NOT what I meant! I meant to say that you nailed me. Wait...that's no better! Dammit...!

Besides, why are you getting so defensive over it? I thought you leftists were all "pro-gay" and what not! "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" That's a line from Seinfeld, by the way. Just trying to throw you a bone there, Sluggo! Oops..."throw a bone"? Man, I'm stepping in it today!

BTW, I didn't have to Google you to find your URL. I remembered your name from Mike's America...

I'm even more flattered then, if I had that kind of lasting impression on you to where you recalled my name and URL by heart. Either you have an incredibly sharp memory of me, or you are cyberstalking me...either way, I'm speechless! You big flatterer, you!

Remind me later to give a wet fart on a dry January Monday what you think about me, m'kay? Thanks a bunch, Hippie...er, Harper!


Gravatar John's blather:

In the future, don't feel obliged to even think of acting on behalf of me.

Clearly you haven't been doing much thinking, so Jenn thought she would give you help. You're right, though...she shouldn't do that. She's much too bright to reduce her IQ by half for you. Matter of fact, I'm typing this reeeeeeeeeeeeal sloooooowly for you!


This country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime

Were you alive during the Carter administration?

I'm sick of seeing your blog

Yet...you're here? I'm sick of reality shows on TV, so guess what, Einstein? I don't watch them! Damn, maybe I should reconsider what I said about Jenn refraining from thinking for you!

I find it hilarious that with the approval rating of Bush, you can still speak with such conviction.

Some people don't base their conviction on what others think. I know, I know, it's hard for a liberal-though-I'm-not-really-a-liberal to fathom that! Fred Smith, the founder and CEO of FedEx, came up with the idea when he was a college student. His professor failed him, and his cohorts thought his plan was fundamentally unsound. So unsound that he's a...billionaire? Using your logic, because no one else liked his idea or believed in his plan, he shouldn't have had conviction to pursue his idea.

Or are most bloggers conservatives like you, that are too busy sitting on their asses making excuses than trying to solve the problems in the world?

The Dems might stand half a chance at the ballot box if they could come up with some ideas of their own, instead of, to use your words, "sitting on their asses making excuses." Actually, they DO have ideas, but they know that Americans aren't too keen on socialism, so they kinda keep those ideas mum. Can't say I blame them!

I'm not a liberal...

That seems to be a theme here: spout liberal talking points, then deny being one.

...and I'm telling you to shut up already. You're making yourself looking like a pompous windbag.

Jenn has to shut down her blog because a commenter hates it here (so much that he keeps coming back)...and she's the "pompous windbag"??


Gravatar Jenn, since this is my first visit, it was just going to be a drive by, but after reading the comment stream I must say, you've got some serious moonbats (yes, I know that's oxymoronic) here. I cannot believe that they actually believe they "support the troops". The only reason they aren't in Canada is because we have enough volunteers to man the required forces. If the draft were active, they'd be gone in a flash.

I, like most of the other folks who indicated they served, am pleased with your post. I think I'll add your URL to my favorites list.

Keep up the good work.


Gravatar Jonathan: You are probably one of the most hilarious people I have ever had the pleasure of .... well had comment on my blog. Thank you so much, I think I pee'd a little reading your last two comments. : )

Old Soldier, my thanks to you and yours. Stop by anytime.


Gravatar To Mr Leffingwell:

Dude - you are AWESOME!!!!


Gravatar Jenn and witness,

Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week, be sure and tip your waitress!


Gravatar Jenn

Great Post!!!

Thank You


Gravatar Jenn, dear, nobody is "pissing on" the troops. Nobody is spitting on them after they come home.

Instead of "apologizing" for things people have not done, why not answer this question: where are the WMDs that the administration was saying were in Iraq?

You might be interested to know that there are many, many Iraq war veterans running for Congress as Democrats. Meanwhile, the GOP-led government is slashing veterans' benefits. And there are no prominent conservatives lining up to enlist. You, for one, are here in the safety and comfort of the US, as are many of your supporters.

So you support the war as long as you don't have to fight it.

Some patriot.

And meanwhile...it seems the liberals have been right about Iraq all along. The truth hurts a lot, doesn't it?


Gravatar Nunya bizznizz

From a previous post if you would bother to read them

For the last time "WMD" as defined by th UN means banned weapons or material NOT just nukes. There was banned material found in Iraq. Missiles capable of further range than allowed by the UN, advanced electronics in aircraft that was banned, warheads capable of delivering chemical weapons which were supposed to have been destroyed but were not, mobile chem labs "for making baby formula" why the f*$# does anyone need a mobile lab for baby formula? There was evidence of a nuclear program not yet in the build the bomb phase yet.

The truth hurts a lot, doesn't it?


Gravatar "Please accept this apology on behalf of the worthless liberals in this country who couldn't give two flying f*cks what happened to you as long as they got some sweet air time."

I don't feel as if I'm worthless. You don't enjoy the name calling as a Republican, I don't enjoy the name calling as a Democrat. Generalities suck. Certainly there are some Democrats that give that group a bad name, just as there are some Republicans that do the same for that group. Don't hate the group due to the actions and behavior of a few.

I do support the troops. I don't enjoy knowing that members of our families will never come home again. I don't enjoy knowing that the ones that do will be scarred for life by what they've been through. I've seen the results of war on people and it's not pretty. Why would I want anyone to go through that?

We are all entitled to our opinion on all matters. But the name calling and the hate gets in the way of the messages.


Gravatar Jenn, simply... you're welcome. And in return "thank you" for your kind words!


Gravatar I am so toasted on liberals whining "where are the wmd???"

"The Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq" lists every rationale for going into Iraq. Please read it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20021002- 2.html


Gravatar This is the saddest lie that has ever been perpetuated on the American people: the idea that our sodiers fight for our freedom. It's a sad truth that immediately after World War II the United States adopted and carried out NAZI-like counter-insurgency raids against democratic forces across Europe. The real men and women you have died for our freedom are never mentioned: the brave souls at Haymarket Square or the toiling famlies in Ludlow, and the brave students at Kent State.

It wasn't soldiers that gave women the right to vote or provided blacks with basic civil rights. It was courageous citizens working at the grassroots level for decades that achieved so much.

Nobody I know wants these men and women to die. It's obvious that they are not dying for any noble cause. They are dying to expand our already enormous empire. They are dying to protect the dollar and U.S. capitalism.

The ignorant Christian thanks god for the food on his table rather than thank the men and women who toiled in the fields to bring him that food. Likewise, you thank a millitary that has a record of oppression and brutality against the American people--think Ludlow--and yet never utter thanks to the countless men and women who have actually fought and won us our rights through various means of resistance.

dave


Gravatar Dave,

Does the asylum administrators know you snuck into their computer lab?

Seriously, dude, that was one of the looniest rantings of moonbattery I've seen in quite some time. You did what I had thus far thought was impossible: you made Pete and Hippie...er, Harper...look sane! Major props to you on that one, dude!

You may now return to your padded cell. Give Nurse Ratched my best!


Gravatar To everyone else, have a great Capitalist Imperialist Oppressive Military War Machine holiday weekend!

For those of you on the left, that was a joke. It's actually called "Memorial Day", and was established for...aw, screw it. Happy Memorial Day anyway!


Gravatar Wow dave..........let's see you back that crap up with some facts.


Gravatar It is the Constitution that gives the right to vote, and civil rights. The military is to protect the Constitution. So no, the military does not go around the US driving women to the polls...

If the country is attacked what do you think you can do? Run up to the attackers... say Nazis, holding the Constitution and say, "no no, look you can't do this. It says here." Paper doesn't handle guns and bombs that well.

In conclusion Dave you said:
"It wasn't soldiers that gave women the right to vote."

I suggest you double-check with the women in Afghanistan. I think we can make a pretty good argument that it was the military that gave them the right to vote.

Dave, thanks for your support of the military on this Memorial Day weekend. You are a true class-act.


Gravatar Ah, Dave, my little anarchist/socialist, union lover. Thanks for dropping by and leaving that litle bird dropping.


Gravatar Silly wingnuts! When will you learn? You are the kind of enablers that let Hitler get into power. Thanks, Republicans!


Gravatar You can tell what kind of shape the Republican party is in by how loudly their goosesteppers whine. Damn, it's getting good watching you little cocksuckers get your panties in a bunch!


Gravatar Brad,

Godwin's Law states that we must henceforth ignore you:

"Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is, in Internet culture, an adage originated in 1990 by Mike Godwin that states:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

This adage was formulated because many people compare anyone and anything they mildly dislike with Hitler. There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress."

Not that we'll have a hard time ignoring your drivel.

BTW, you liberals here are funny...I thought libs were supposed to be the "compassionate" ones? You trolls have more compassion for al Qaeda than those with whom you disagree politically. Pretty sick, dude.


Gravatar "...getting good watching you little cocksuckers get your panties in a bunch!"

Kinda like you "little c#cksuckers" got your "panties in a bunch" after the last two presidential elections (plus the 2002 midterms)?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!


Gravatar Hiya Jenn
This was my first time visit as I too was on Old Soldier's convoy. WOW! You have some great posts but I'm afraid that it's lost on some of those moonbats. You/we can't reason with some of them and I guess we'll just have to install our "moonbat deflectors" on our convoy and hope their mess blows off.
You have some good posts, yourself,darwin,mdc conservative and others,.... but you have your work cut out for you.
Good ones Jonathan!


Gravatar Hey TNJack.....you fight there...we fight here....in the only way we can. So many weak minds that the lefties spoon feed, we can only do what we can to make them strong, help them awaken.

Brad.... f*ck off you pathetic loser, I've read your worthless blog a time or two and had to almost drown my eyes in eye drops to clear them after reading the utter shite you wrote. YOU; you and your ilk are exactly why I do what I do, write what I write.

Word.


Gravatar Wow, you people are f@*ked up. Jenn and others are still defending this war? It's mind boggling. Regardless, you are more than welcome to spew your wacked-out Right wing garbage on my site.

Gotta go, I have a flag to burn and a troop to spit on (*note the sarcasm)


Gravatar "Gotta go, I have a flag to burn and a troop to spit on (*note the sarcasm)"

Nah, I think you meant it. Have a great Memorial Day to you too.


Gravatar The only person I know of who supports Osama bin Laden in our country has the last name "Bush".

Seriously though, this discussion is futile. It polarizes and weakens our nation. We are the UNITED States of America, not the DIVIDED States of America.

But Jenn, thank you for perpetuating this divide. And what more, thank you for doing it on the weekend before Memorial Day, a day when Americans are always unanimously united.

In the words of Barack Obama:

"We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America."


Gravatar To Our Troops, Thank You for Putting Your Life On the Line


Gravatar Kevin: "The only person I know of who supports Osama bin Laden in our country has the last name "Bush"."

Kevin again: "But Jenn, thank you for perpetuating this divide. And what more, thank you for doing it on the weekend before Memorial Day, a day when Americans are always unanimously united."

Blaming Jenn for "perpetuating this divide" by writing the above just goes to show you need a proof reader, a job and maybe a life too.


Gravatar Kevin,
With your Obama quote you shot yourself in the foot for your argument against the President.

He said, "we are one people." Is there a part of that quote you didn't display that has him saying “we are one people EXCEPT for the President”?

I decided to take a glimpse at what you consider a tribute. "Poor souls fighting a rich man's war", how rich in and of itself. You can't even leave the politics out of a "Thank You." Of course noticing you have a link to Al Jazeera says all I need to know.


Gravatar Kevin's a proud and upstanding member of this nations 5th Column.


Gravatar So, mdconservative, you deny that the majority of our troops in Vietnam (which the picture alludes to) and Iraq are poor or come from the lower class?

mdconservative, thanks for the cheap shot. Al-Jazeera makes me not support our troops. That's what I conclude from that statement. You are dead wrong. Al-Jazeera is a good organization. I watched Control Room. I know that they are not a terrorist news organization.

By the way, next time take a stand and leave a comment on my blog voicing your dissent for what I post. Don't retreat like a pansy and voice your dissent in a haven that will coddle you and support your opinion. Or better, help shield you should you find yourself unable to handle my remarks. Capeesh?

darwin,

You claim that I am causing more of a divide. In defense, here is evidence supporting the fact that Bush is sympathetic to the bin Ladens. You've heard it, no doubt. But you are stuck in that truth acceptance stage known as denial. And that's too bad.

Also, a divisive argument over who really supports the troops is worse than a divisive argument on whether or not Bush is sympathetic to bin Laden. The first argument could lead to the terrorists killing more of our soldiers as they may find out while stationed in Iraq that people do not support what they are doing and lose confidence. You don't want them to hear this because you are propagating this farcical notion.

darwin,

You think I may need a proof reader, a job, and a life. You know what though? I think I am going to be a bum. You'll need me to fight the upcoming war on Iran. So I'm going to enlist and while overseas, I'll make sure I torture, kill, and humiliate as many Middle Eastern men as I can. After all, that's how we are supposed to defend our freedom. Right, darwin?


Gravatar Kevin. As far as I know "osama" is the only black sheep in the bin laden family. The family business is construction based and I hear the elder bin laden has done very well. Is it your assertion that the entire family is guilty through association? If you know a couple and their son or daughter commits murder, are they also murders? That's you implication. What am I supposed to be denying? I'm afraid you've become too desperate for a conspiracy.

On your "divisive arguments". Since arguments are inherently "divisive", we'll just call them "arguments". Supporting the troops means......although you may disagree with the governments position, you don't politicize things just to score points. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having vaild discussions and disagreements.

Kevin says: "So I'm going to enlist and while overseas, I'll make sure I torture, kill, and humiliate as many Middle Eastern men as I can."

Congratulations. If these "middle eastern men are trying to kill us, kill you, kill your fellow soldiers or our Allies........have at it.

Kevin: "After all, that's how we are supposed to defend our freedom. Right, darwin?"

No, we defend freedom by doing what we can all over the world to promote freedom. We protect against the tyranny and dictors you lefties seem to coddle. We call evil what it is to it's face and destroy it if we can. Democrats can't and won't do that. You worship at the altar of evil because you haven't the courage to stand up to it.


Gravatar Yes, you are right, darwin. I am the spawn of Satan. I "worship at the altar of evil". And thos dictors? Well, they happen to be some of my closest friends. On my cellphone, I have them all listed in my contacts. I call them up each day and let them know that it's working. The liberals of America are bringing down America. All they have to do is finish the job. ...

On a serious note, I don't think you guys would know evil if it walked up behind you and said, "Bend over."


Gravatar Kevin says: "The liberals of America are bringing down America. All they have to do is finish the job. ..."


Couldn't have said it better myself.


Gravatar Wow, Kevin, why don't you just come right out and say: Hey, I want some more traffic and comments on my blog. Lame.

"A divisive argument over who really supports the troops is worse than a divisive argument on whether or not Bush is sympathetic to bin Laden."-Kevin
***Bullsh*t Kevin. Bush would probably love to personally take Bin Laden by the beard and whack his head into a stone wall, repeatedly. That some members of the Bin Laden family were flown out of the country to protect them makes sense. They are not all Osama. He is a singuar person, and blaming his entire family for his actions is ridiculous.
The very fact that the left, liberals like Sheehan, Moore, Soros; groups like Code Pink, Move on.org exist is a reason to argue troop support. They get more airtime, and if I were a troop stationed in the M.E. and that's all I saw on the news, I'd feel pretty sh*tty.


"The first argument could lead to the terrorists killing more of our soldiers as they may find out while stationed in Iraq that people do not support what they are doing and lose confidence."
****You know what leads to more troops being killed Kevin??? Huh???? The assh*le liberal media and their need to tell all. Abu Ghraib. NO WE DID NOT NEED TO KNOW. How many soldiers have died as a direct result of what happened there. How much hatred was sown by what happened there? Times publishing the FALSE Koran flushing story, how many died??? HOW MANY KEVIN????? All for your RIGHT TO KNOW???? Yeah, that's supporting the troops. How about the fake secret prison bollocks? Or Gitmo? Those pukes eat better than our own prisoners, but people like you don't care.

I don't know why I bother. You are a waste of time, and bandwidth.


Gravatar Personally, I don't care if people leave comments or visit my blog or not. If no one visits, than it is what it is...a log of events and political thoughts that I want to be able to access easily. And keeping it going keeps me informed.

You brought up flown out of the country. I have no problem with that aspect because you are right--they probably would have been endangereed after the attacks. What I have a problem with is the fact that they were not cross-examined and asked about Osama bin Laden.

By the way, why hasn't Osama been caught yet?

There is no such thing as a liberal media. Maybe an asshole media. But not a liberal one. If there is such thing, why haven't we heard more about the Rove indictment? If there is such thing, why hasn't the idea of impeachment been brought up more?

In any case, the media's job is to be a watchdog for our naton. If a Democrat was in office, I would want them to look like they were a "conservative media" so that they could check the power of the president.

Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, CIA secret prisons, etc. ---these are all things that ruin America's image. If our leaders truly care about our troops, they will stop operations of this nature.


Gravatar "you deny that the majority of our troops in Vietnam (which the picture alludes to) and Iraq are poor or come from the lower class?"

I am not going to fight Vietnam again, as for Iraq and today's military which come from volunteers not the draft:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/ ...213mythfact.pdf

Find figure 3. If anything it says less people from the lower classes are joining and more from the upper.

"By the way, next time take a stand and leave a comment on my blog voicing your dissent for what I post. Don't retreat like a pansy and voice your dissent in a haven that will coddle you and support your opinion. Or better, help shield you should you find yourself unable to handle my remarks. Capeesh?"

Oh my goodness. Could someone inform me of the constitutional amendment that switched it from "freedom" to "required" speech? I didn't know that every time I read something I had to say it at your blog. But this time I will offer dissent at your blog, I look forward to the mature comments from you and your readers.

http://patrioticintellect.blogsp...morial- day.html

I was replying to you here, now by your childish complaints I see that you would be the one more concerned about you views.

Thanks for the invite, and the insult.


Gravatar Oh yeah, did you think we didn't hear about the Rove indictment because... well it didn't happen.

"The time has now come, however, to issue a partial apology to our readership for this story. While we paid very careful attention to the sourcing on this story, we erred in getting too far out in front of the news-cycle. In moving as quickly as we did, we caused more confusion than clarity. And that was a disservice to our readership and we regret it."

That from the amazing source of the story. Basically the statement means "we tried to predict the future we wanted, it didn't happen, but we won't say so, cause how cool would it be if it did happen."

Huh. That is why it was not in the news. I mean even CBS wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole.


Gravatar There is no such thing as a liberal media.

http://www.mrc.org
http://www.newsbusters.org

Nope...no liberal media!

By the way, why hasn't Osama been caught yet?

Because Bill Clinton turned down the offer to take him when he was handed to us on a silver platter. Bubba admitted as much:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/...25/ 124653.shtml

In 1996, when President Clinton refused Sudan's offer to extradite Osama bin Laden to America, federal prosecutors had already publicly identified the 9/11 mastermind as an unindicted co-conspirator in a radical Islamist plot to blow up New York City landmarks.

Bin Laden's known ties to the terror cell that would later be implicated in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center stands in marked contrast to the ex-president's claim that when he turned the Sudanese offer down, bin Laden had committed no crime against the U.S.

"At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America," Clinton insisted in a 2002 speech to a New York business group. "So I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America."

But reports published before March 1996, when the Sudanese tried to hand the top terrorist over, show that the ex-president did indeed have a legal basis to bring him to America and at least hold him, with an eye toward putting him on trial.


I guess letting him go in 1996, a full four years before he was first elected, was also Bush's fault?


Gravatar Everything is BUSH'S fault!!! My eggs were over cooked this morning. Bush's fault. A bird crapped on my car!!!! Bush's fault. I threw my damn back out again....Bush's fault.


Gravatar What was Bush doing to you last night? Those sound more like things Clinton would be the cause of.


Gravatar kevin: "What I have a problem with is the fact that they were not cross-examined and asked about Osama bin Laden."

Hey kevin......your buddy Richard Clark is the one that cleared them to leave. Read his book. And yes, they were questioned by the FBI.


Gravatar Kevin again: "In any case, the media's job is to be a watchdog for our naton."

Ummmmmm......No. The media are all privately owned with the same goal as any business....to make money. Interjected in all this money making is the ideology of the owners and editors, without a doubt overwhelmingly liberal and democrat. They are watchdogs for themselves and their causes, nothing more. If you can dispute that statement factually, I'll recant it.


Gravatar As Tom Harper warned me, I have been hit like John Effing Kerry was by the Swift Boat Veterans.

I'll start with mdconservative.

Thank you for the link. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, I found like 5 or 6 more links that make your source seem like what it is: propaganda. Of course the DOD is going to publish a .pdf proving these "myths" wrong.

You are not "required" to say anything. But you cannot deny that you took a look at my blog and then came back to say something on Jenn of the Jungle's. So why here and not there? That's what I want to know. Do you feel safer? I think you do.

I'm not sure I understand the last part. It goes something something childish something blah blah I'm a right wing guy let me hit you with my best shot. And then...

...you come back with a shot at my Rove indictment reference. And it is what it is. Here's what I said and what I must clarify for you:

"There is no such thing as a liberal media. Maybe an asshole media. But not a liberal one. If there is such thing, why haven't we heard more about the Rove indictment? If there is such thing, why hasn't the idea of impeachment been brought up more?"

I think we can all agree, md, that truthout.org did claim to have a source that said a Rove indictment had occurred. Right? Ok then, my question is why didn't more media pick that news up that this organization had a source saying that? If there is a "liberal" media, why didn't I see more about this "indictment" on the news?

And don't tell me the media doesn't get stuff wrong. They went on and on about how Michael Jackson would get convicted and then he practically walked. They went on and on for 5 hours about how gunfire had went off in the Rayburn House Office Building on Friday when there was none at all. So the media tends to jump on something before they really know what it is. And again, I ask, why didn't they jump on the Rove indictment story?

Alright, I'm done with you mdconservative. I've responded to everything you said. Go reload and if you got something good to say to me, come back at me with more. Now for Jonathan Leffingwell.

Jonathan, let me ask you this. If I am going to try and prove that the ACLU is one of America's greatest unions ever should I prove that with a source that has championed that idea for some time or should I go to a respectable unbiased source who has done research and doesn't work full-time at trying to show that the ACLU is America's greatest union ever? I mean, chances are he would fail. Point being...this mrc.org proves to me nothing. This is a conservative watchdog group. I wouldn't listen to anyone who said Media Matters proves that our media is conservative. For that reason, I'm not buying this link as proof of a liberal media.

I visited NewsBusters.org. Thank you and it basically looks like MRC recycled a


Gravatar Kev, I didn't think a site with reams of data showing media bias would prove to you that there was media bias. But I'm an optimistic chap, so I figured I'd try!

One more try, though, just 'cuz I'm a persistent sumbitch:

Findings by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press (not exactly the biased source you were hoping for, eh?)

Public cynicism about press values and performance runs deeper than perceived inaccuracies. Most Americans (53%) believe that news organizations are politically biased, while just 29% say they are careful to remove bias from their reports. When it comes to describing the press, twice as many say news organizations are "liberal" (51%) than "conservative" (26%) while 14% say neither phrase applies. This was also the case in surveys conducted in the mid- to- late 1980s and, not surprisingly, there is a significant partisan cast to these perceptions.

Republicans see the press as more liberal than conservative by nearly three-to-one (65%- 22%). Among independents, the margin is two-to-one (50%-25%). And while a third of Democrats say there is a conservative tilt to the American press, a slight plurality (41%) says the press is more liberal than anything else.


Dude, even DEMOCRATS see the press as liberal! Why, how can that be?!?

As for your ACLU analogy:

The ACLU was founded by a commie. Co-founder Roger Baldwin stated, "I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." Some things never change.

I know, it was a hypothetical and an analogy. However, I ignore anyone who claims the ACLU is great simply by reading the words of its founder.

Don't worry, dude. I'll give up on trying to prove that the liberal media is just that. The fact that over half of Americans and a plurality of Democrats agree is just an anomaly. You know more than they do, I'm sure.


Gravatar I don't claim to know more than you at all. Nothing we do here hinges upon who knows more or who is a better person. I comment to talk about issues and not to show somebody up. I only begin to act arrogant when I enter Jenn's Jungle where everyone has completely lost their mind and become terribly pompous. I also tend to be arrogant on conservative sites where I know I have entered into a debate where I am wrong from the start and must be arrogant to get a discussion going.

I like your Pew Research Center source. One thing though---it doesn't prove a "liberal" media exists. It only proves that people believe a "liberal" media exists. That a "liberal" media exists is something Republicans, conservatives, and right-wingers alike have been propagating for years now. And judging from the Pew Research Center, they have been successful.


Gravatar Like I said, Kev, I'm giving up on trying to convince you of that. You aren't going to believe it, no matter how much data I provide or how many examples of leftist bias I produce, so I shan't continue trying.

It's your delusion, my friend, and you're welcome to wallow in it.


Gravatar Kevin: The only thing you've proved to everyone is that you can't think for yourself. You are so mired in liberal propaganda and political correctness you would never admit to anything that might challenge your carefully crafted reality. For you to do so would mean one or all of your "commandments of liberalism" would be false and your world would come crashing down.

Unless you have the courage to question all beliefs, especially yours.......you will never be able to read or answer objectively. As it stands now, you are a successful product of the Left's brainwashing dutifully regurgitating it's mantra.

I dare say you'll find any conservatives that all believe the same thing. We all have different ideas on how or what conservatism is. The left does not have that problem. They have armies of drones just like you spitting out the familiar and very, very tiresome "You're a racist, sexist, homophobe, islamophobe, liberalophobe, sexophobe or whatever silly names you all have in your little red book. Grow up, start looking at the world realistically.


Gravatar "Little red book."
Thanks for the laugh!

I agree, I think the right agrees in many ways but has tons of different ideas on how to get there. Good post darwin.

(Yes Kevin, I said "good post." I slapped him on the back for a comment I liked. So spare me the lecture the left gives of how we just sit around congratulating each other.)


Gravatar "The only thing you've proved to everyone is that you can't think for yourself. You are so mired in liberal propaganda and political correctness you would never admit to anything that might challenge your carefully crafted reality. For you to do so would mean one or all of your "commandments of liberalism" would be false and your world would come crashing down."

And you've proved that your goal in life is to hunt down people and paint them as "liberals" so that you can smear them and make them look like frauds.

Really, I admit to things that challenge my crafted reality. I used to think America was better than any country in the entire world. I used to think that we did everything right and we were a morally sound and correct nation. I used to think Gore lost in 2000 but really it was stolen. I used to think that we were attacked by al-Qaeda and Iraq on 9/11 but really there is evidence that it was allowed to happen. Officials in our government were hoping for "a new Pearl Harbor" so they could benefit. I used to think Iraq had WMDs. I found out we decimated their weapons program in the 90s and there was no way that they had a WMD program in 2003.

I don't just go to Democratic Underground and pull a story and begin spouting and retelling what they said. I say what I say cause of the books I read, the various news sources I read, the documentaries I watch, the photographical evidence and video evidence I see, the government documents I view, and the interviews from people who work in politics and in foreign policy, etc that I hear. I am proud to say my news doesn't come directly from a pundit.

I'm not going to lay low and let you take personal shots at me without saying something. I'm not going to stand for it. I come here to talk about politics and issues. I come here to discuss what is happening. I do not come here to psychoanalyze or make people look like frauds. We are all honorable Americans in my opinion, people who are leaders because we know what is going on in the world unlike some people.

You probably have heard about Haditha and are ready with or have written an article claiming that liberals wanted this. You probably claim they are happy this news is being circulated because now they can advance an agenda. That is sick. Such a notion is terrible. You probably have suggested that liberals do not support the troops at all. You make these rash statements with no basis. Why would anyone wish that Marine soldiers' families have to go through something like this? No person is heartless like that. Nobody.

If you want this to be a personal war, let's go. I'm ready. You make the call. Bring your friends. Tell them there's a new "liberal" in town. Tell them he claims he will take any shots that are fired. Wanna piece of me? Come and get it.

I'm taking a stand. I don't have to sit here and let you tell me what I am and who I am and why I do what I do. Bring


Gravatar Bring it on! You say it and this will be a foolish battle. Until then, take care and thanks for the "psychoanalysis".

md,

You wanna some of this? You want a piece of this liberal? I'm open for your cheap shots too. Just make the call. We'll have an all-out cheapshot war in this Jungle. All you have to do is let me know.


Gravatar Kevin
"I found out we decimated their weapons program in the 90s and there was no way that they had a WMD program in 2003."

From a previous post if you would bother to read them

For the last time "WMD" as defined by th UN means banned weapons or material NOT just nukes. There was banned material found in Iraq. Missiles capable of further range than allowed by the UN, advanced electronics in aircraft that was banned, warheads capable of delivering chemical weapons which were supposed to have been destroyed but were not, mobile chem labs "for making baby formula" why the f*$# does anyone need a mobile lab for baby formula? There was evidence of a nuclear program not yet in the build the bomb phase yet.

As for Haditha the inquiry is still ongoing and I doubt if the evidence of what happened will ever all come out. So far all that can be guaranteed is that civilians died, Marines died, Marines were present. I cant really imagine what state of mind they were in.

As for Gore how many times do the votes have to be counted? Every count had Bush the winner how was it stolen?


Gravatar "You probably have heard about Haditha and are ready with or have written an article claiming that liberals wanted this… That is sick. Such a notion is terrible… You make these rash statements with no basis. Why would anyone wish that Marine soldiers' families have to go through something like this? No person is heartless like that. Nobody."

Rewind, to a mere moment earlier…

"I used to think that we were attacked by al-Qaeda and Iraq on 9/11 but really there is evidence that it was allowed to happen. Officials in our government were hoping for "a new Pearl Harbor" so they could benefit."

Well you don't think anyone at all should make such an accusation about the troops and what they go through. Yet as I quoted your own words, you feel people are willing to put the entire country through 9/11 for personal gain. There is a fault in that logic.

Which way is it Kevin?

Just like Murtha calling the troops, the Marines, (the ones you said no one would ever do that to their families) "cold blooded killers." Nice try for a failed pre-emptive strike. Play your own games, you are a liberal and are against pre-emptive strikes.

"You wanna some of this?"

lol, I am kind of busy to be playing schoolyard games.

"We'll have an all-out cheapshot war in this Jungle. All you have to do is let me know."

Knock yourself out! Go ahead, slander me and my uniform. Take your cheap shots. It just doesn't get under my skin, I'm sorry. But please feel free to entertain me. Throw what you got. If you really think I would take any insult to heart from a person that believes the Government allowed 9/11 to happen, you would only be taking a cheap shot at your own intelligence.


Gravatar That's what I thought. You all have fun in the jungle. When you are ready for a taste of reality, go to these links.

Mission Accomplished

Loose Change

Bush Family Fortunes

By the way, when you came here and started commenting, md, you entered a schoolyard game. You entered a game to see who you could be better than. You all come here to find some way to twist what people say so that they look like frauds. This place should be www.takeastandagainstliberalswithoutanybasis fordoingso.blogspot.com. Exactly like Tom Harper said, this is a Swift Boat Veterans for Truth sham of a group.

Smearing people for fun is un-American.


Gravatar Wow...that Kevin is a paranoid moonbat asshat conspiracy nutjob! Get your tinfoil hat, Kevster, because it looks like you sure as hell need one!

Lithium works great, or so I'm told.


Gravatar Kevin reporting from Fantasy Island:

"And you've proved that your goal in life is to hunt down people and paint them as "liberals" so that you can smear them and make them look like frauds."

Do you ever read the stuff you write? I don't have to do anything. You make yourself look like a fraud. And telling you the truth and the way it is isn't a "smear". Anyway, good luck and good hunting on Fantasy Island. You'll find everything you need to keep your little world intact there.


Gravatar I really like how Kevin who is soooo upset about not talking the issues zeros in on a flame war and posts sites full of leftist garbage and non-truths (out of context and selective editing) and outright lies and then starts name calling.
If you want to discuss issues do so, if you want to play flame wars go ahead but dont call flame wars dicsussing the issues.


Gravatar Kevin....reporting from a galaxy far, far away:

"You probably have heard about Haditha and are ready with or have written an article claiming that liberals wanted this."

Huh?


Gravatar I will be happy, when I want to waste my time once more to combat every signle piece of bullsh*t spewed in Dylan Avery's fictional flick Loose Change. It's so bad, that only a truly mental deficient would believe a single word of it.


Gravatar only a truly mental deficient would believe a single word of it.

(** Looks at Kev **) I think we have a winner! LOL!


Gravatar Why is it that when losing in a discussion, people resort to personal vilification??


Gravatar Ask the moonbats, 60.


Gravatar Mr. Leffingwell,

Why ask the moonbats when you exhibited this very behavior in regards to my post? Why ask anyone but you since you seem so good at it? Am I to believe that's the first idiotic comment you've ever made? Am I to pretend that your pathetic attempt to ignore the threat of my arguments was believable?

I saw a very flawed argument and pointed out why I believe it is flawed. Personally I find it a travesty that we worship murderers rather than the brave men and women who really fought for our freedoms, like the brave Anarchists at Haymarket Square and countless others.

Jen chose to be cute. That's to be expected. No sense defending something she couldn't possibly understand. Mr. Leffingwell also chose humor; it's like waiving the white flag, I guess. A third commentor asked me to back it up with facts. I do this on a regular basis. Visit me at thebluevoice.blogspot.com

peace,

dave


Gravatar it's like waiving the white flag

Hey, hey, hey! Let's leave the French out of this!

like the brave Anarchists at Haymarket Square

It's because of statements like this that cause me and others to "ignore the threat of your arguments", dimwit! Lauding anarchists? Nice job, duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh-ve! And you wonder why no one takes you seriously?

I'd wish you "peace" (or maybe you just need "a piece"), but I think I'll wish you something more useful instead: meds!


Gravatar it's like waiving the white flag

Hey, hey, hey! Let's leave the French out of this!

like the brave Anarchists at Haymarket Square

It's because of statements like this that cause me and others to "ignore the threat of your arguments", dimwit! Lauding anarchists? Nice job, duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh-ve! And you wonder why no one takes you seriously?

I'd wish you "peace" (or maybe you just need "a piece"), but I think I'll wish you something more useful instead: meds!


Gravatar Dave isn't really worth debating with. Besides. He seems to think that blatant hard core racism is o.k.

I have tried for a couple of years and never gotten a thing out of him.


Gravatar You're a bit of a righteous cunt on your high horse, don't you think it's pathetic to use a supposed support message to soldiers to just have a blatant dig at other people? And when will you realise that you're the kind of fuckwit that gives America it's bad name. Seperation between republicans or otherwise isn't necessary, you're all muppets.


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