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I am apoplectic!!! Who the FUCK does this guy think he's talking to! How fucking DARE this FUCK talk to- not just people in Iraq- but anyone who'se ever worn the uniform like that!
Where's your gratitude you twerp!
Well, you let these fuckers speak long enough and the truth of how they REALLY feel comes out. People in the military are a bunch of brainless, no-hopers. Kiss my fat, white, american ass John. You are Wanker of the Year.
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Yea and the Liberals want to rule the world. I just figured that it would be one of the Liberals who put their own feet in their mouth before this election season was over with. I hope this has some big time backlash, it should.
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I second the nomination of John Kerry for Wanker of the Year. Do I hear more ayes?
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Kris, no offense, settle girl. My kids are reading this. I bet you could make a point W/O the "F'in himer"
I swear a bit, but holy hanna
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Kerry earned his right to say what ever the fuck he wants.
This is America, least you forget.
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mudkitty
He didn't have to earn any right to say anything, it's freedom of speech here in the United States Of America, but we do also have the right to critisize his speech because it's our freedom to do so as well.
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WTF is mud kitty? Anyway, I can make the point with out effing and blinding- but where is the fun in that?!
That's also why I go to the Arsenal. I could get a better view of the match on tv- but it's not the same if you can't sing songs and yell "fucking shit!!" when your £120,000.00 per week glamor boys miss a pass.
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I hear your point- but this blog is known a bit for it's "expressiveness". It's like having your kids hang in a bar- don't be too upset if someone blows smoke- but not in California.
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MK, sure he can say what he wants, but he should also be prepared to hear people like myselfs and others in the armed services tell him what we think of what he said. Last time I checked, Freedom of Speech was a two way road.
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Stand in line...stand in line and no shoving!
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Yes, Kerry can say anything he wants. Kerry has the right, given to him by the constitution and maintained by the very men and women he disparages.
He has the right to say the vilest and most inane things and we have the right to expose his moronic statements, and spread them far and wide to show what a moron and a coward he really is.
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You Know it makes me feel really happy that I started it off in showing how we can all get along and show descent ways of discussing the simple means of discourse in a very courteous way.
By allowing us to inform MudKitty of how the freedom of speech works.
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Quote: Kerry earned his right to say what ever the fuck he wants.unquote
Correct. John Kerry does have the right to say what he wants, no matter how uneducated and biased the statement is. We, as Americans, also have the right to call him on the carpet when he makes an idiotic statement such as this.
He's following the age-old formula for a liberal New-Englander. You don't have a good career or money in the family already(married into or not) well, there's always the military. That way you can look like you support them and then daddy (Or your wife, the Ketchup Queen) can bail you out and set you up.
Ted Kennedy basically has the same mindset. They may support the military but god forbid they serve in it for any length of time. As Papa-Moonshiner Kennedy probably said to them "just serve long enough to keep reminding people of it, then get out and go into politics" (and Kerry does remind everyone at every opportunity doesn't he?).
Today's soldiers sailors and airmen (and women) are so well trained in their fields, they'd rate master standing in their civilian equivalent. I know many enlisted personnel who hold several degrees, and not in their particular field. One of my old Chief Engineers, recently retired not long ago, not only holds degrees in electrical and mechanical engineering but also culinary arts. And all those he got while also serving 32 years on various cutters and land stations. Many times with little pay and really crappy living conditions. He wasn't in it for the bucks.
By statements such as this, we all see what the Democratic elite really think of the military. To them, we are nothing but little toys to be played with and then discarded at will when they get bored.
This story is already making the rounds of boards such as Military.com and once it filters down the line, Kerry's voice with the military won't be worth spit.
Time to throw those medals again Johnboy! Only this time you can shove them where the sun doesn't shine!
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Bravo SR, well said.
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Here's some stats to back up the military's "Lack of Education"
Here are some education stats for our military.
49.2 percent of officers have advanced or professional degrees; 39.4 percent have master's degrees, 8.5 percent have professional degrees and 1.3 percent have doctorate degrees.
22.8 percent of company grade officers have advanced degrees; 16.5 percent have master's degrees, 5.9 percent have professional degrees and 0.3 percent have doctorate degrees.
85.4 percent of field officers have advanced degrees; 70.7 percent have master's degrees, 12.1 percent have professional degrees and 2.5 percent have doctorate degrees.
99.9 percent of the enlisted force have at least a high school education; 73.3 percent have some semester hours toward a college degree; 16.2 percent have an associates degree or equivalent semester hours,4.7 percent have a bachelor's degree , 0.7 have a master's degree and .01 have a doctorate or professional degree.
http://www.af.mil/news/
storyprin...oryID=123027385
Uneducated? Hardly.
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Seattle Reader
Bravo, although you do write a lot and for accomodation for your new comment, I think that you deserve a new upgrade in rank from Seattle Reader to Seattle Writer.
I think that we were all saying the same thing to MudKitty, but we all don't type as fast as you do Seattle Reader Ooops I meant Seattle Writer.
Since I am a slow typist I take a long time and don't have enough years left in my life to type a descertation.
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Jenn, Night, thank you for the praise and the nomination. I accept with thanks.
Mudkitty: No one is attempting to curtail anyone's freedom of speech, far from it. But you must understand that a basic freedom must apply to all or it applies to no one.
Kerry is a big boy. I'm sure right this instant his spin doctors are working at about 300rpm to clean up this mess. But what he sometimes doesn't understand is that the military, active, reserve and veteran/retired, has a long memory. This is something that will not bode well for him in his future dealings.
In my opinion I think we're seeing the beginning of the end for his political career. But then again, MA has been putting Ted in office again and again for years. You'd think that state was the #1 Scotch producer for that kind of support.
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Well folks as predicted, Kerry's Spin City Specials have already come out with a statement for the Lieutenant. Of course he had to wait until Tony Snow brought it out.
Given the tone of this, you know Kerry didn't write it.
Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, assorted right wing nut-jobs, and right wing talk show hosts desperately distorting Kerry’s comments about President Bush to divert attention from their disastrous record:
“If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy.
This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did. (Notice he's not 1/4 into it and already he's calling up his military service)
I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have. (Guess what, Kerry was in the military!)
The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it.
These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor. (Again, he blows his own horn about his record).
Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.”
Let's see that's 3 times he reverted to his astounding military record in the course of a 3 minute statement. And as to your request to have a debate, you already did that remember?
Not to give the democrats any ammunition but if they're smart, they'll put Johnboy on the back burner and every potential candidate should immediately keep him as far away as possible.
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How is it a lie when I actaully saw him utter that trite with his own two lips.
Stupid scum sucking sh*tbag. I'd like to kick his ass just for the ever lasting fun of it. I am pissed.
That drivel is so pathetic I want to scream.
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Jenn
Would you like me to hold him for you while you beat the shit out of him?
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Jenn
Lets think of torture techniques to use on him, that will make you happy and smile again.
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I suggest waterboarding.
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Jenn
I agree and I will help you if you like me to help you with doing that and you may have the pleasure of dumping the water on his head. What ever will make you happy and smile more.
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The fact that he would insult the intelligence of the Men and Women who protect this country speaks volumes on what it means to be a democrat these days. Ugly and weak.
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SR,
Don't forget to compare those stats to average education levels in the entire US. Once you do that, Flip-flopper's statement seems even more ridiculous.
shitkitty,
Yeah, John Fairy has the right to say what he wants, however it's difficult to accept what he says when it has no basis in reality.
John Kerry is a HUGE WANKER!!!
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He said it and it was more 'crystal clear' than his back tracking and attempting to spin it in the 'classicial' Democratic party style that we all know. He's a jerk, this isn't going to help the 'defeatocrats' down the stretch and I'm smiling ear to ear over this potential costly blunder.
He never apologized to the military...
I'm a former Marine and I can see myself still being in and saying wtf?
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That's what's so typical on the left Gunz, they never own up to their mistakes. I mean look at Foley, the guy stepped down immeadiatly, and last I heard, he hadn't even broken the law. (Creepy, but legal).
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what John Kerry can't face is that he is yesterday's man- and he lost. The Democrats will NOT choose him as their next nominee because nobody loved him the first time around.
Cher has a song for what Kerry is trying to do- "If I could Turn Back Time".
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Wow, everyone in hear has echoed my thoughts and sentiments. I can't possibly say anything in addition without repeating what has already been said.
Good commentary, Jenn, Seattle, kris, Kelly, Henry, VW, GUNZ and of course, Night Rider.
Kerry certainly is a condescending, arrogant, narcissistic, self-centered pompous-ass. I could go on but, I believe you all get the point.
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Mud,
Freedom of Speech is a Right not a Reward.
Here's another hint: Rights come with Responsibilities.
Having the Right to say something does NOT, NOT, NOT mean that someone is right for whatever they say and politicians, especially, ought to choose their words more wisely.
Hanoi John Kerry didn't earn his Rights, they were granted to him by a Government that stands by, on and for its military might.
How fucking ignorant of you to suppose that you, John Kerry, or anyone can kick a gift horse in the mouth and expect the horse to smile back. If stupidity were only painful, you and your ilk wouldn't be so prevalent.
Oh, and you're welcome. I fight for your Right to be as stupid as you choose to be.
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mudkitty is so profound, why not start a blog of your own?
John kerry can take what he says and shove it! Swift boat em!
FTGF!
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Yes Jenn... it's a rare man that stands behind what he's said. It's so easy for a person to cut and run, to take the easy way out. Shameful that he calls himself a Veteran.
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Mudkitty says:
Kerry earned his right to say what ever the fuck he wants.
And we have "earned" the right to call it what it is.
Free speech works two ways.
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Jenn
This statement from on the top of your blog fits very well with the news article that you have here.
"Once again, we see that "tolerant" liberals are the LEAST tolerant people around."
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Jenn
Remember this quote: "Liberals from here on out will now be known as the Halloween Joke Of The Century."
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Hey Jenn,
Truly he has crossed the line this time. To insult our soldiers by claiming their low education dictates their future in the military. Utter absurdity.
He makes my blood boil.
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dtodeen & Jenn
dtodeen said that I had a unwavering faith that the GOP would not loose seats.
Well this is what that unwavering faith comes to.
To dtodeen and Jenn: When Jesus Christ said to his deciples, if ye had the faith the size of a mustard seed, you could tell this shrub to up-root yourself and plant your roots over here near the shoreline of the lake and it would obey your command.
This dtodeen and Jenn is what is meant to be a Christian. All in the faith of the Lord Jesus Christ who suffered on the cross and died for all of our sins and arrose again on the third day and sitteth on the right hand side of GOD the Father Almighty maker of heaven and earth. For with the beleif that Jesus suffered on the cross for your sins is what gives you the salvation of the Lord Jesus Christ, for he payed the ultimate price for our sins.
I pray for us and I pray for this country but I also have to show that I have faith in GOD that he will work his will through us.
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N R I never doubted your faith. That said, current mood with our election leads to a democrat win, is what I said. I really don't want this to happen, but faith aside, I don't control what others believe and will vote. Beside it really comes down to the Republicans inability to lead and the failure of Bush to exicute the Iraq war
For those of you that are confused this goes back to Monday's radio show. Click the link below to listen. or visit my blog.
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dtodeen
Ok it's time to lay your cards on the table, what do you mean by Bush's failure to exicute the Iraq war, lay it all out on the line. What would you like to see happen come on and tell me.
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dtodeen
Maybe you preferr how Bill Clinton executed the war better?
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I'd hate to be a politician because people pick up on EVERY little slightly hypocritical, batshit crazy or just plain offensive comment you make.
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N R very simple answer. WIN! Quit farting around, Let the warriors fight and WIN. if you go back to the beginning and the looting and the chaos, never should have happened. not enough troops to control the country and the terrorist poured in. Rumsfeld thought this was going to be a cake walk and failed to take all accounts into action and we continue the 'course" it's time to kill the bad guy's, why in Sadr still alive. Why is Iran sending the goods in. it's time to fight the war and quit letting our guy's geting killed.
maybe you can discuss ths tonight? i'll be glad to engage the topic on the radio with you.
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And maybe I'll learn to type????
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"mud kitty", synonymous with "dirty p#ssy"? 
Like most leftards, dirty p#ssy doesn't realize that "freedom of speech" does NOT mean "freedom from consequences of exercising said freedom of speech."
And he's "earned" nothing, dirty p#ssy. The First Amendment applies to everyone here, not just people who got rice patty shavings blasted into their asses from their own p#sspoor shooting! Soldier, smelly hippy, housewife, computer geek, race-baiter, janitor...we ALL have that right, Toots!
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Kelly, nice double meaning there girl. Snaps.
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dtodeen
dtodeen I will take you up on that debate tonight on air.
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Jenn
Yes Jenn... it's a rare man that stands behind what he's said. It's so easy for a person to cut and run, to take the easy way out. Shameful that he calls himself a Veteran.
Kelly
Jenn I see only one meaning that Kelly is getting at not a double meaning.
I think that Kelly is saying is that if John F"Word" Kerry thinks that the American Troops are stupid or are a bunch of "Ghingus Kahns" Like what he said back in 1971 then he should stand by that statement instead of weasleing out of his statement.
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Roland Hulme
I'd hate to be a politician because people pick up on EVERY little slightly hypocritical, batshit crazy or just plain offensive comment you make.
Well Roland one thing that a lot of the Liberals have never figured out is that everything that they have ever said in the past has been pre-recorded and is there for anyone to read or hear. They think that everyone will just forget what the heck they said way back then but it can be re-played or re-read all over again from what they said in the past.
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Jonathan
Jonathan you are correct that there is consequences for not only what is said speech wise but also what kind of lowsey bills were passed through congress and everything in life has consequences, it's just that the Liberals have never really figured that out yet or they think that they are above the law.
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why Jenn... I just don't have the foggiest idea what you could be referring to???
At the end of the day he may call himself a Soldier - (maybe) he was at some point in his life but now... now he's just a rich asshole.
Gee... I believe I have done it again.
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Kelly
Kelly I was there, well in age I was there, I know what Kerry did and what he said. He had that well planed to do just what he did by scamming those purple hearts to only serve 3 months, that is why he brought that camera along with him in the first place. Every thing that the Swift Boat Vets said was absolutely correct.
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Kelly, LOL, you go girl!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes, as a chick, I know it feels good to vent.
What do you mean he's not a soldier? I thought he still was?
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Jenn
According to most all vets John Kerry Is no Soldier no matter what he thinks of himself.
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NR... Kelly and I are talking about someone else. Not sKerry.
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Jenn
Oh well if you girls would have just put on the top of the comment section ( Off Topic ) before your comment, it would have been much more easily understandable.
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Hmm Jenn.... I think I'll pass on answering that out here - email me if you want to know. You know how those rich-know-it-alls are... they are never wrong and do not like it when their flaws (reality) are pointed out to the masses... they like to stay up on that high horse.
Okay... I'm done sounding like a bitter shrew.
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Everyone has their bitter shrew moments dear, I know I have. 
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So true... but the new guys don't like it so much... yeah, I'm done.
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For the most part, I agree that it was a dumbass thing to try and work into a joke, or whatever, but fuck Bush and the fucking administration. They want KERRY to issue an apology? The same administration that started a war based on lies? That sent our men and women over there without all the necessary equipment, nor the appropriate amount of people?
The same administration that shocked and awe'd the motherfucker but had no plan to win the peace? "Stay the course" as a strategy?
Fuck them and their fucking apology.
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Mike V
Hey Mike V Kiss My Ass Fuckwad.
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Mike V Wrote: The same administration that started a war based on lies?
Yea Lies that the Left Started Back in the 1990's JACK ASS.
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A war that congress and Kerry approved and voted for. There was no lie. Same old mantra but you forgot no blood for oil.
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Mike V
Mike V Wrote: That sent our men and women over there without all the necessary equipment, nor the appropriate amount of people?
That too was a fabricated Lie started by John the Fuckwad Kerry. Oh I voted for the funding before I voted against it.
Kiss My Ass Mike V.
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Kelly
Well there was really no WMD's over there but the Clinton Administration started that montra from Faulty Intelligence and now the Left want's to pass off the Lie on to President George W. Bush
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Kelly
If you don't beleive that statement, ask your self this, What was it that Sandy The HamBurgalar stole from the National Archives?
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Oh, dear, dear little Mike....
For the most part, I agree that it was a dumbass thing to try and work into a joke,
****And here's where you should have stopped.
or whatever, but f*ck Bush and the f*cking administration.
****How many times do I have to say this is not a porno blog?
They want KERRY to issue an apology?
***Yes, for a guy who "claims" to support the troops, calling them all stupid is rather insulting. Any real man would have sucked it up and apologized. Like Clinton, I'd have had at least a modicum of respect for him, had he just said,"O.K., yeah, I plumbed her with a cigar, hey, I'm a guy!"
The same administration that started a war based on lies?
****Lies? Really, you tell me what those were. Do you need a dictionary to help you actually figure out WHAT a lie is?
That sent our men and women over there without all the necessary equipment, nor the appropriate amount of people?
**Yup, I agree we should have sent more people. Yup, but needed to go when we did, and we went with what was left after 8 years of military cuts by....what's his name.
The same administration that shocked and awe'd the motherfucker but had no plan to win the peace?
***Man, we have different visions of shock and awe. That was nothing.And there will never be peace. Don't you know that? Maybe some semblance or normalacy, but never peace.
"Stay the course" as a strategy?
***Consistancy is a good strategy. But, unlike some, the admin has listened and they are working on new strategies.
F*ck them and their f*ucking apology.
***No, f*ck you. When you make a statment like that, you are saying "f*ck the soldiers", because that who needs the apology.
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working on what??
this entire occupation has been a screw up from day one in their attempt to secure the 112 billion barrels of oil in Iraq.
Their BS "stay the course" crap is just that, crap.
And yes, they did in fact LIE to the entire world. You know they did, the least you could do is have the guts to admit it.
Iraq was not a threat to us and was not a threat to the region.
We are killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and our own young men and women over this occupation that has achieved NOTHING other than to make the region and the world LESS safe.
We are occupying a country full of people who DO NOT WANT US THERE.
Our invasion and occupation has created destruction and death from day one and maken life for the average Iraqi worse.
And to top it off, they're not even going to ever have a "democracy". Ever.
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Mike V
Mike V Wrote: And yes, they did in fact LIE to the entire world. You know they did, the least you could do is have the guts to admit it.
Do you mean this Lie.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1...s/clinton.iraq/
Tuesday February 17, 1998
Text of President Clinton's address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff:
Please be seated. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Mr. Vice President, for your remarks and your leadership. Thank you, Secretary Cohen, for the superb job you have done here at the Pentagon and on this most recent very difficult problem. Thank you, General Shelton, for being the right person at the right time.
Thank you, General Ralston, and the members of the joint chiefs, General Zinni, Secretary Albright, Secretary Slater, DCIA Tenet, Mr. Bowles, Mr. Berger, Senator Robb thank you for being here and Congressman Skelton. Thank you very much, and for your years of service to America and your passionate patriotism both of you. And to the members of our armed forces and others who work here to protect our national security.
I have just received a very fine briefing from our military leadership on the status of our forces in the Persian Gulf. Before I left the Pentagon, I wanted to talk to you and all those whom you represent the men and women of our military. You, your friends and your colleagues are on the front lines of this crisis in Iraq.
I want you, and I want the American people, to hear directly from me what is at stake for America in the Persian Gulf, what we are doing to protect the peace, the security, the freedom we cherish, why we have taken the position we have taken.
I was thinking as I sat up here on the platform, of the slogan that the first lady gave me for her project on the millennium, which was, remembering the past and imagining the future.
Now, for that project, that means preserving the Star Spangled Banner and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and it means making an unprecedented commitment to medical research and to get the best of the new technology. But that's not a bad slogan for us when we deal with more sober, more difficult, more dangerous matters.
Those who have questioned the United States in this moment, I would argue, are living only in the moment. They have neither remembered the past nor imagined the future.
So first, let's just take a step back and consider why meeting the threat posed by Saddam Hussein is important to our security in the new era we are entering.
This is a time of tremendous promise for America. The superpower confrontation has ended; on every continent democracy is securing for more and more people the basic freedoms we Americans have come to take for granted. Bit by bit the information age is chipping away at the barriers economic, political and social that once kept people locked in and freedom and prosperity locked out.
But for all our promise, all our opportunity,
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But for all our promise, all our opportunity, people in this room know very well that this is not a time free from peril, especially as a result of reckless acts of outlaw nations and an unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals.
We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st century. They feed on the free flow of information and technology. They actually take advantage of the freer movement of people, information and ideas.
And they will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen.
There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region and the security of all the rest of us.
I want the American people to understand first the past how did this crisis come about?
And I want them to understand what we must do to protect the national interest, and indeed the interest of all freedom-loving people in the world.
Remember, as a condition of the cease-fire after the Gulf War, the United Nations demanded not the United States the United Nations demanded, and Saddam Hussein agreed to declare within 15 days this is way back in 1991 within 15 days his nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them, to make a total declaration. That's what he promised to do.
The United Nations set up a special commission of highly trained international experts called UNSCOM, to make sure that Iraq made good on that commitment. We had every good reason to insist that Iraq disarm. Saddam had built up a terrible arsenal, and he had used it not once, but many times, in a decade-long war with Iran, he used chemical weapons, against combatants, against civilians, against a foreign adversary, and even against his own people.
And during the Gulf War, Saddam launched Scuds against Saudi Arabia, Israel and Bahrain.
Now, instead of playing by the very rules he agreed to at the end of the Gulf War, Saddam has spent the better part of the past decade trying to cheat on this solemn commitment. Consider just some of the facts:
Iraq repeatedly made false declarations about the weapons that it had left in its possession after the Gulf War. When UNSCOM would then uncover evidence that gave lie to those declarations, Iraq would simply amend the reports.
For example, Iraq revised its nuclear declarations four times within just 14 months and it has submitted six different biological warfare declarations, each of which has been rejected by UNSCOM.
In 1995, Hussein Kamal, Saddam's son-in-law, and the chief organizer of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program, defected to Jordan. He revealed that Iraq was continuing to conceal weapons and missiles and the capacity to build many more.
Then and only then did Iraq admit to developi
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Then and only then did Iraq admit to developing numbers of weapons in significant quantities and weapon stocks. Previously, it had vehemently denied the very thing it just simply admitted once Saddam Hussein's son-in-law defected to Jordan and told the truth. Now listen to this, what did it admit?
It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability notably 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs.
And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production.
As if we needed further confirmation, you all know what happened to his son-in-law when he made the untimely decision to go back to Iraq.
Next, throughout this entire process, Iraqi agents have undermined and undercut UNSCOM. They've harassed the inspectors, lied to them, disabled monitoring cameras, literally spirited evidence out of the back doors of suspect facilities as inspectors walked through the front door. And our people were there observing it and had the pictures to prove it.
Despite Iraq's deceptions, UNSCOM has nevertheless done a remarkable job. Its inspectors the eyes and ears of the civilized world have uncovered and destroyed more weapons of mass destruction capacity than was destroyed during the Gulf War.
This includes nearly 40,000 chemical weapons, more than 100,000 gallons of chemical weapons agents, 48 operational missiles, 30 warheads specifically fitted for chemical and biological weapons, and a massive biological weapons facility at Al Hakam equipped to produce anthrax and other deadly agents.
Over the past few months, as they have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions.
By imposing debilitating conditions on the inspectors and declaring key sites which have still not been inspected off limits, including, I might add, one palace in Baghdad more than 2,600 acres large by comparison, when you hear all this business about presidential sites reflect our sovereignty, why do you want to come into a residence, the White House complex is 18 acres. So you'll have some feel for this.
One of these presidential sites is about the size of Washington, D.C. That's about how many acres did you tell me it was? 40,000 acres. We're not talking about a few rooms here with delicate personal matters involved.
It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them.
The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many,
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The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons.
Now, against that background, let us remember the past here. It is against that background that we have repeatedly and unambiguously made clear our preference for a diplomatic solution.
The inspection system works. The inspection system has worked in the face of lies, stonewalling, obstacle after obstacle after obstacle. The people who have done that work deserve the thanks of civilized people throughout the world.
It has worked. That is all we want. And if we can find a diplomatic way to do what has to be done, to do what he promised to do at the end of the Gulf War, to do what should have been done within 15 days within 15 days of the agreement at the end of the Gulf War, if we can find a diplomatic way to do that, that is by far our preference.
But to be a genuine solution, and not simply one that glosses over the remaining problem, a diplomatic solution must include or meet a clear, immutable, reasonable, simple standard.
Iraq must agree and soon, to free, full, unfettered access to these sites anywhere in the country. There can be no dilution or diminishment of the integrity of the inspection system that UNSCOM has put in place.
Now those terms are nothing more or less than the essence of what he agreed to at the end of the Gulf War. The Security Council, many times since, has reiterated this standard. If he accepts them, force will not be necessary. If he refuses or continues to evade his obligations through more tactics of delay and deception, he and he alone will be to blame for the consequences.
I ask all of you to remember the record here what he promised to do within 15 days of the end of the Gulf War, what he repeatedly refused to do, what we found out in 1995, what the inspectors have done against all odds. We have no business agreeing to any resolution of this that does not include free, unfettered access to the remaining sites by people who have integrity and proven confidence in the inspection business. That should be our standard. That's what UNSCOM has done, and that's why I have been fighting for it so hard. And that's why the United States should insist upon it.
Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made?
Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.
And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal. And I think every
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And it goes on just click the fucken link Mike V. you dipshit you are too lazy to find the facts out before you go shouting your propoganda around.
So Mike V Kiss My Ass.
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What oil Mike???? Iraq has current contracts with many other countries. We don't "own their oil", and we never will. And by the time we're done over there, or as done as we'll ever be, they'd owe us all of their oil for the next 50 years or so.
Iraq was not a threat... really???? That's not what your guy Kerry said... want some quotes???? How about Clintoon, that was before Bush and his evil "Lies".
"Documentation indicates that Iraq was training non-Iraqis at Salman Pak in terrorist techniques, including assassination and suicide bombing. In addition to Iraqis, trainees included Palestinians, Yemenis, Saudis, Lebanese, Egyptians and Sudanese."
Hell I could go on for hours.
WE are not killing hundreds of thousands of anyone. The Islamic sh*tbricks , THEY ARE.
They don't want us there??? Really??? They freakin' love us...
http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/
By the way.. democracy is being able to vote.... I saw a lot of purple fingers over there.
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LOL!
Purple fingers, that's a good one.
I guess any minute now, the Sunnis and Shiites will lay down their arms and hug, right?
The violence that we spawned.
I guess you all know better than the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq.
Right.
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NR... do me a favor.... just leave links. That's a lot of scrolling there.
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Ok Jenn
Geez darn Haloscan can't hold so much I guess. I wonder when will they ever come up with a blogging system that can hold more information? LOL
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Ah, here you go Mike.....
http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/
Cute eh?
I'm sorry Mike, but can you refresh my memory.... when did we go to Iraq? Wasn't that 2003? Now, in which year did 9/11 occur? The Cole? The embassy bombings?
Hmmm Mike, were we in Iraq when these happened????
June 21, 1998 - Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.
Nov. 13, 1995 - A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training.
How about this one????
February 1993 - A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York's World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042.
December 1985 - Simultaneous suicide attacks are carried out against U.S. and Israeli check-in desks at Rome and Vienna international airports. 20 people are killed in the two attacks, including four terrorists.
Man Mike, I'm on a roll, don't make me keep going.
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NR, nothing like keeping it concise to keep your reader interested..
Mike V- do shut up and grow up. Isn't it enough that Saddam and his sons were running riot over that country- executing women in the national soccer stadium, committing genocide? It was more than enough in Kosovo.
So what- the 45 minute thing was overplayed. So what? I don't recall THAT being the tipping point for war. We went to war because we all thought it was the right thing in the circumstances.
You'd be better off having a go a Rumsfeld and the Powell-Bush doctrine. I've always preferred the Norman Swartzkopf doctrine.
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Kris
Kris wrote: NR, nothing like keeping it concise to keep your reader interested.
Mike V- do shut up and grow up. Isn't it enough that Saddam and his sons were running riot over that country- executing women in the national soccer stadium, committing genocide? It was more than enough in Kosovo.
So what- the 45 minute thing was overplayed. So what? I don't recall THAT being the tipping point for war. We went to war because we all thought it was the right thing in the circumstances.
You'd be better off having a go a Rumsfeld and the Powell-Bush doctrine. I've always preferred the Norman Swartzkopf doctrine.
Wow Kris I think I like you.
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oh, and nice Christian you are, Nanook/Night Rider.
typical of the religious freaks out there.
your knowledge of christianity is even worse then your knowledge of politics.
you guys are too fucking funny..
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Mike V.
It's typical of a Liberal to project your own non abilities on others so why don't you just go back home and cry because you don't have what others have. You are deficient in both brains and common sense. I pitty you for your's is the worst kind of existance.
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right, and you pray to a sky fairy to save us from the "muzzies".
and who's crazy??
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I pray to Smith and Wesson to save us from the muzzies. 
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