This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
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Health Care for Every Family
EVERYONE already has health care!!!!!
Some just choose NOT TO PAY for any.
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04.30.08 - 1:58 pm | #
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Let them parade this crap around ... everytime they do this all they end up doing is pissing people off and throwing more weight behind the anti-illegal fight.
I mean c'mon ... illegals protesting for rights? They have the right to go home, that's about it.
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They can go live in mudkitty's house ... she doesn't mind clothing, feeding, schooling and paying for their medical bills. Oh yeah ... she'd like them to vote in return, for Obama of course.
darwin |
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They can have the same rights I have when they go through the immigration process and become citizens, like I am.
On the other hand, tomorrow traffic should be pretty light.
cary - Botan Ichihara |
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LOL! Cary! I know I LOVE it when illegals take the day off! The two TRILLION drivers on the road suddenly trim down to 50,000. Pretty managable! NOT a parking lot!
Somehow we have the get the whole country to do what Oklahoma has done, because their laws have withstood all the lawsuits and the state has emptied of illegals. Their uneployment actually went down because their own citizens where able to get jobs.
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
04.30.08 - 3:49 pm | #
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When I was a kid May Day meant we put flowers on neighbors door steps with a little note that said Happy May Day - we'd ring the doorbell and run.
Kelly |
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04.30.08 - 4:22 pm | #
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Ugh demands? They can get on the bus and go do that at home in shithole land where they belong.
hammer |
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04.30.08 - 5:14 pm | #
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I think it's high time we round 'em up, and ship 'em back.
BUILD THAT GOD DAMN FENCE ALREADY.
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04.30.08 - 5:27 pm | #
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Sign says:
"If you think I am illegal because I'm a Mexican. Learn the true history because I'm in my homeland."
I did.
NO YOU'RE NOT!!!
Wetback illegal criminal aliens' homeland is in SPAIN NOT in the AMERICAS.
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04.30.08 - 5:33 pm | #
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Lock and Load, looks like tomorrow might be 'Open Season'...
TexasFred |
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04.30.08 - 5:34 pm | #
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You and all of your readers are ASSHOLES!!! This post and the comments prove it!
not surprised |
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04.30.08 - 6:25 pm | #
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Blah, blah,...what's the word I'm looking for? Oh, yeah...BLAH!
Jonathan |
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04.30.08 - 6:34 pm | #
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LOL!
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
04.30.08 - 6:37 pm | #
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"You and all of your readers are ASSHOLES!!! This post and the comments prove it!"
Care to give a reason as to why you think that (although I have a pretty good idea)? I dare you to come forward. Please, step up and give your reasons.
braden |
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04.30.08 - 7:16 pm | #
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Since Not Surprised is a reader, does that me he's an asshole too?
Frznagn |
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04.30.08 - 7:18 pm | #
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Since Not Surprised is a reader, does that me he's an asshole too?
You're wrong...he/she/it isn't a reader. Nurse Ratchid or the parole officer is reading for NS.
Jonathan |
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05.01.08 - 5:24 am | #
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Let them parade lets them wave their stupid signs in the air let them scream their stupid slogans let them burn old glory americans still opose illegal imagration and still oppose giving them workers grants
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05.01.08 - 6:46 am | #
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Quick while they are all herded together..
/throws net
hellpig |
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05.01.08 - 9:13 am | #
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Yeah Darwin - I'm friggin Mother Teresa!
Mudkitty |
05.01.08 - 9:33 am | #
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"Yeah Darwin - I'm friggin Mother Teresa!"
You want the American taxpayers to be ... so why not you?
darwin |
05.01.08 - 10:08 am | #
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Darwin, you ARE, indeed a social Darwinist.
But I would think you would love your country enough to want to pay your fair share of taxes. Or do you want us to be like India? Where people die in the rivers, and the streets? Speaking of Mother Teresa.
Yeah, let's take us back to the days of Charles Dickens, where you would have the opportunity to step over dead bodies in the streets and feel superior. Or would you prefer the great depression and bread lines?
I remember a time when people used to be proud of this country, and would
actually brag about the taxes they paid. Frankly, I still am proud to be a citizen of the United States, and proud every time I pay my taxes. And I always will be.
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05.01.08 - 10:30 am | #
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Quit changing the subject. You believe Americans should embrace millions of illegals and pay for their food, schooling, medical and housing.
Roughly 50% of my income goes to either state, federal or local government ... and you want more.
1.6 trillion dollars last year from the pockets of working Americans into the pockets of others.
The only thing that will ever help those less fortunate is to give them even more opportunity to help themselves by cutting taxes drastically.
Go to Venezuela. Hugo is building your dream country as we speak. He awaits you.
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I didn't change the subject at all. I'm giving you perspective and context, something you desperately lack.
I hardly consider Chavez my model of a government leader. Quite the opposite. Wrong again. I know your whole life is
invested in disparaging people who disagree with you politically, but lying about what I think is simply foolish. If you want to know what I think, ask me. Don't speak for me.
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I'll speak for you anytime I wish.
Chavez may not be your ideal government leader but the hellish government he imposes is your ideal.
You simply have no idea of the principles this country was founded on. You would have government impose it's will on me, so it could enforce your views of "utopia".
I despise everything you stand for. The problem IS government. To you, the solution is MORE government.
I want the government reduced to a shadow of today's bloated giant. You want the giant to grow even bigger. You want more corruption. You want less freedom. You want the government to run your life.
I don't.
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05.01.08 - 11:16 am | #
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Why don't turkey's demand their rights in Mexico.
Oh, I forgot Mexico isn't as free as the U.S.A.
Who do those douche bag foreigners think they are.
They aren't Americans so their so called protests don't mean crap to me.
Those Asshole illegals most of them Mexican should demand theirs in their homeland Mexico it's not the U.S.A.'s job to take care of Mexico's problems.
Those turds have the nerve to way wave Mexican flags yet if Mexico is so great then they wouldn't be coming here in droves in the first place.
They should go home we've got enough leftist morons here already.
Our nation would go broke paying for their health-care and other social programs.
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05.01.08 - 11:26 am | #
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Darwin, you can lie for me any time you wish.
Happy Mission Accomplished Day.
I want the government to be able to expand, and/or contract, in order to serve the needs of the United States Citizens - which is, after all the point of government vs anarchy.
Now, let me speak for you, Darwin, since you insist on speaking for me. You hate government, Darwin - hence you hate our nation of laws. That's why in your PC - knee jerk way, you want it to be "small." It's such a simplistic view.
In addition to that, you can't even differentiate between our (emphasis on our, not just your) government, and the Bush Administration. You want the Bush/Cheney Administration to have the power to trample all over the rights of the United States Citizen (as enumerated by the US Constitution) while at the same time you claim to shrink the "government." And you don't see the contradiction. Sad, really.
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05.01.08 - 11:59 am | #
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"Darwin, you can lie for me any time you wish."
I don't lie. I simply know the nature of the beast that you worship.
Do you not want the American taxpayer to fund all the needs of illegal tresspassers in this country?
Do you not think we should grant amnesty to millions of people?
Isn't your "uptopia" one where the productive are penalized and the unproductive rewarded?
You hate freedom and individualism.
You hate the principles this country was founded on.
I don't need to lie ... I simply say what you won't.
"You hate government, Darwin - hence you hate our nation of laws. That's why in your PC - knee jerk way, you want it to be "small." It's such a simplistic view"
It's very obvious you have absolutely no idea what the men who founded this country thought of government.
It's not my view that's simplistic. You simply want to throw your hands up and turn your freedoms and life over to corrupt bureaucrats. My view turns the reins of control back to where it should be, in the hands of people. You goal is to relinquish those reins.
"In addition to that, you can't even differentiate between our (emphasis on our, not just your) government, and the Bush Administration. You want the Bush/Cheney Administration to have the power to trample all over the rights of the United States Citizen (as enumerated by the US Constitution) while at the same time you claim to shrink the "government." And you don't see the contradiction. Sad, really."
Since you've been "spying" here for quite some time, I'm surprised you haven't picked up on that fact that most of us here detest how Bush has handled certain issues. But what I'm actually interested in is exactly what "rights" have been trampled on? Please be specific and give examples. Feel free to back up your examples with the specific clause of the Constitution or Bill of Rights that have been violated.
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"Happy Mission Accomplished Day"
Happy Mission Accomplished Day to you too. Planning to celebrate with Code Pink?
darwin |
05.01.08 - 12:25 pm | #
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Bible says that you should obey the laws of the land unless it contradicts one of God's principles.
So ILLEGAL CRIMINAL aliens have broken a law of the land & should be sent back. I've broken lots of laws & had to pay the price.
Bible says that if you are too lazy to work you should not eat.
God is against gov't. sponsored welfare where too many sucking off of hard working tax payer funds & not working & addicted to drugs & alcohol.
Part of what got me to quit drugs & alcohol was that I was homeless for 6 mos. I learned that an awful lot of homeless people are homeless by CHOICE. Hard for most of us to believe. But it is very true.
Dar hates BIG gov't. lunatic. Bush/Cheney have trampled NO RIGHTS.
'a' hole you are a DELUSIONAL & DELIRIOUS LIAR living in your own FANTASY world of your own FANTACISM.
Darwin & Witness just take what any LIBPUKE like 'a' says and take the opposite. What it says it is actually saying about itself.
I just laugh my ass off at these fanatical lunatics. They are all self serving KKKowards & HYPOCRITES that know NOTHING of the real world.
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That whole comment you wrote, Darwin was a lie. When you claim to speak for me, you say things I absolutely disagree with.
But do tell, Darwin, just what IS it about you that gives you the incredible magic psychic powers to see into the souls of the people you disagree with politically? What makes you the expert on evil? Could it be, you're secretly...one of us? Hmmmm. A double spy, perhaps? (Sarcasm button on, for all you simplistic literalists.)
How can I trust you to love your country, just because you say you do, if you won't give me the same courtesy? Pointless question, I know. You won't get it.
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"That whole comment you wrote, Darwin was a lie. When you claim to speak for me, you say things I absolutely disagree with."
So ... you believe the opposite of what I wrote? I doubt it. However, instead of calling me a liar and painting yourself as a saint, why not expand on those areas I mentioned? What are your views?
"But do tell, Darwin, just what IS it about you that gives you the incredible magic psychic powers to see into the souls of the people you disagree with politically?"
You've posted here before kitty, and you weren't reserved about expressing your opinions or your disgust.
But kitty, really now ... you've seen one leftist you've seen 'em all. You really haven't a clue about what this country is all about. You can believe whatever you want, just don't force me to accept it. Unfortunately, that's what liberal politics is all about. Forcing the non-compliant either thru legislative or judicial decrees to comply with YOUR views. The left is so hypocritical. You're all about enslavement, not freedom.
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They should just call it Che Day.
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05.01.08 - 2:35 pm | #
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"What makes you the expert on evil?"
Recognizing evil doesn't require expertise.
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05.01.08 - 3:06 pm | #
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Great points, Nam-buddy! VERY good points.
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05.01.08 - 3:52 pm | #
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WMD, I just saw your comment again and it reminded me that if it weren't for the f0ing illegals the question of socialized health care wouldn't even be on the table. Nobody would even give it a chance. But the illegals have so buckled and crippled our hospitals that the system we had in place of providing care to our poor - who were actually few in number - while those with insurance paid just a little bit more (or rather our insurance companies did). That system, while not perfect is close to collapsing because of the illegals. - The obscene NUMBERS of them have totally thrown the balance out of kilter and now we are facing a bunch of marxists who are close to destroying our healthcare by forcing socialized medicine on us all. If that happens, it will be the beginning of the end here.
You know, I really HATE the left. They have an entire planet to go to live their favorite lifestyle. Why can't they just leave us this one place? Why must they force US to live by their values. Why are our values not to be tolerated? Why are our values to be denied us? Why must we be the ones to give up what we believe in? Why can't they just leave and leave us alone?
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"Why can't they just leave and leave us alone?"
They're here because this is where the money is. When we're destroyed they'll move on to India, then China, then Japan, wherever there's available capital to steal, lives to crush, souls to destroy ... and so on.
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Ooo - how encouraging.
Thanks, Darwin - now I have nowhere to move!
cary - Botan Ichihara |
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05.01.08 - 4:48 pm | #
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I'm here because I was born here, as were my parents and three of my grand parents, and two sets of my great grandparents, and their parents. I'm here because I love my country, and my continent. I'm every bit as American as any of you. I'm here because it's my right, as a native born citizen of the United States - in accordance with the Constitution.
America, love it or leave it.
Darwin - I know you have a very deep seated desire to have an enemy, even if it's a fellow American who's only
crime is disagreeing with you
politically. I know you have a deep seated need to believe that Americans who disagree with you politically are traitors. Fine. Have a good life, and enjoy your hate.
I don't need to justify my patriotism any more than you do.
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Witness, what would you do with yourself
if you didn't have the left to hate. Hate and anger is your life's blood.
Darwin - my only disgust that I've ever expressed here is my disgust of rightwing anti-Americanism.
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America, love it or leave it. a
You don't love it here - so leave. I hate libs because they (you) want to impose their warped and amoral system - a proven failed system - upon us.
There are more of us than you - yet you have intentionally placed your jackasses in places that effect OUR lives. They don't have the right to do that - yet they (your kind) have, totally ignoring the Constitution and citing UN and International law as the basis of their decisions.
Canada calls you, a. The Peoples Paradise of your dreams. Not far and full of people just like you.
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Wit see what I mean about dirtpussy?
This pile of human garbage & filth & disgust called dirtpussy is speaking of itself. All these LIBPUKES do this. It is complementing us with their vile irrational fanatical hatred & spewing forth hate. It means we are being effective.
Like I've said before, Jesus, the only One that really counts knows the truth. So don't let this demonic pile of human trash get to you. We are blessed when we are reviled in His Name.
I feel sorry for it. It is pitiful, lol.
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Hey - I'm not the one complaining about America. You are Witless.
The United States - I love it, I'm staying. Like it or not.
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05.01.08 - 6:52 pm | #
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"Darwin - I know you have a very deep seated desire to have an enemy, even if it's a fellow American who's only
crime is disagreeing with you
politically."
Get off your "fellow American" soapbox. I told you, you're free to do what you want, think what you want, believe what you want ... as long as you don't try to shove those beliefs down my throat and I'll respect those beliefs.
However, like I said earlier, today's "liberalism" doesn't adhere to that. You force your ideology down our throats thru the legislatures and courts. That's tyranny. I'm sick of it.
You want abortions? Go ahead ... YOU pay for it.
You want every form of entitlement program under the sun? Fine ... YOU pay for it.
You want health care for illegals? Fine ... YOU pay for it.
Pay for your own health care. You know how? Tell YOUR fucking government to give you your own money back.
You want to disarm the country? Try it.
You want, want, want, want ... and want more. You people are never satisifed until there's nothing left, and our liberty is gone.
Everything you want has failed everywhere it's ever raised it's ugly head.
You may "love" America, but you really don't have a clue what America is. Read history. Read the words of the men that founded this country. You'll see everything you want, everything you're doing goes against everything they worked for and died to achieve.
How the fuck did the US get to where it's at? By quasi-socialist big government policies? Fuck no.
Although I asked you about your views on some issues ... you still haven't given them. What about it?
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05.01.08 - 7:27 pm | #
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"The United States - I love it, I'm staying. Like it or not."
No one cares what you do kitty ... we just don't want you and your kind to destroy it.
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05.01.08 - 7:27 pm | #
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Amen Darwin.
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05.01.08 - 7:45 pm | #
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No one cares what you do kitty ... we just don't want you and your kind to destroy it.
Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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05.01.08 - 8:09 pm | #
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Darwin - ask me a question about an issue. Go ahead, rather than just rant about how you hate liberals, and how the Nation is going to hell in a hand basket. What is you question?
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05.01.08 - 8:54 pm | #
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Our local chain store is holding a CINO DeMAYO sale and its not a american holiday LET THEM CELEBRATE IT IN MEXICO
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Christmas was originally a German Holiday. Dork.
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05.01.08 - 9:05 pm | #
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"Darwin - ask me a question about an issue."
I have. I've stated that you believe Americans should just accept the millions of illegals here and that you think it's somehow justified that we pay for everything. You never rebutted those statements. Here's your chance, again.
Maybe you can justify the millions LA County alone spends in a single month just on health care for illegals. Millions that are ultimately passed on to US citizens and legal residents.
How in the world can you possibly claim you "love" America when we're being dismantled from the inside out. Don't you have the guts to just say enough is enough? Will your collective call you a "racist"? Oh no ... we can't have that now can we. Let's just keep quiet while the country is overrun and the taxpayers bled dry, and hospitals across the nation close their doors. Better to toe the "progressive" line than actually address the real problems.
Have at it.
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05.02.08 - 5:59 am | #
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"Christmas was originally a German Holiday. Dork."
Not quite. The Christmas tree is, not Christmas. Dork extraordinare.
darwin |
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Not just the tree - the Holiday. Do you even know the date that Christmas became a national holiday? (Answer - rather late in the day, so to speak.) And did you know, that the Christmas Holiday was illegal, and considered too frivilous for the pious, at one point in our country's history? No? Didn't think so - facts are pesky things. But you might want to look it up, or watch a documentary on the history of the Christmas Holiday sometime. BTW - I LOVE Christmas! It's my second favorite holiday. Thanksgiving being the first.
Mind you - I'm not talking about Christ Mass, I'm referring to the
National Holiday.
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So Darwin, just exactly what was your question? Could you be more specific? Seems like your comment was more of a statement, and the questions came in multiples. Can you just ask one straight forward question?
I believe in that in a civilization, rather than a jungle, no offense to jungles, the stronger takes care of the weaker - that anything else is Social-Darwinism/Law of the Jungle. I believe in helping immigrants, and the poor. Here, and everywhere. I believe that if you don't, what you end up with is something akin to the French Revolution. Only this time on a global scale, and I would like to avoid that.
But mostly - I believe in our Constitution - which has a clause about the "General Welfare." You might want to look it up. It's in the preamble, so you don't have to bother to read the whole thing, although I highly recommend it.
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Now go ahead, all of you, and tell me that I don't believe what I actually believe. Go ahead and tell me that you guys know me better than I know myself. Put false words in my mouth.
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I can't believe what I just read. Not only did you, mudkitty, evade the question of illegals ... you're actually implying that we have a constitutional responsibility to care for law breaking citizens of other countries at the expense of the American people.
This is what got you banned before. Not answering questions, obfuscating, and just generally being annoying.
People here will debate you. What people here won't do ... including me, is waste their time with someone who doesn't understand everything they stand for will result in the destruction of the United States.
Bye bye kitty.
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05.02.08 - 9:52 am | #
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This is what got you banned before. Not answering questions, obfuscating, and just generally being annoying.
That, plus the way she slimed our troops, then refused to apologize for it. Jenn kicked her to the curb quicker than Bill Clinton goes through interns. Yet for some weird reason, Feeblepuss slithered back in, adopting multiple personalities (sockpuppetry).
Deceiptful, anti-troop, stalking, "I'm not listening, la-la-la", worthless, ignorant, repugnant, talentless, leftist pinko...aside from all that, she's a hoot.
Jonathan |
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05.02.08 - 10:13 am | #
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What the f was your question Darwin?
Can you even answer this question?
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05.02.08 - 10:31 am | #
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"Can you even answer this question?"
LOL!! "Progressive" hypocrite...
Henry |
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05.02.08 - 10:45 am | #
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Cue: The sound of a clip going into darwin's 9mm.
Cue: The sound of a round being chambered.
Cue visual and sound: Thumb releasing safety.
Cue visual: darwin pointing gun to his head.
Cue sound: Thump as darwin's head hits the desk.
Cue visual: darwin's dogs googling kitty ... grabbing 9mm and getting in car to hunt her down.
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05.02.08 - 10:49 am | #
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Cue sound to Darwin's question.
Silence.
a |
05.02.08 - 11:07 am | #
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What is your question? A simple sentence will do.
Can't come up with a simple question?
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05.02.08 - 11:10 am | #
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Is this a chapter in your book? How to get people to repeat themselves several times?
I was asking your stance on illegal immigration and if you think the consequences are hurting the nation, if the cost is justified, and if so why.
Also, our health care system has been degraded due to the burden of millions of non-paying illegals and the billions of dollars passed on to consumers to pay for their health care ... not to mention taxes. What should we do about it.
I also mentioned the cost in LA County alone ... millions of dollar per month ... just spent on health care for illegals. How do you justify that to the average LA and California legal resident who must absorb these costs.
If you ask me to repeat it again I will lobby for an immediate lifetime ban. Deal?
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Darwin, why are you still waiting for an answer to those questions? Hell, she never answered the question I gave her about WHERE in the Constitution one could find a "right to vote" in federal elections! 
She doesn't answer questions...not the ones she's asked, anyway.
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05.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
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"Darwin, why are you still waiting for an answer to those questions?"
Good point. Good thing I didn't pull the trigger.
darwin |
05.02.08 - 11:45 am | #
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Darwin, the gun was pointed the wrong way, bud.
cary - Botan Ichihara |
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05.02.08 - 12:28 pm | #
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Wise words of wisdom Botan Ichihara.
darwin |
05.02.08 - 1:15 pm | #
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That's four questions, with only one
question mark.
Your not asking me questions. You're making statements.
My feeling about so-called, so-named
illegal immigration is that we should be going after the employers, and not the desperate people who come here for a better life just like our
forefathers. I also think it's part and parcel of unregulated, cheap labor capitalism. Duh.
Does that answer your question? (Like I haven't answered it a 1000 times.)
Now would you care to ask a question, as a question? I doubt it.
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05.02.08 - 1:35 pm | #
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Is it me or are my questions being blown off again ... anybody?
I had no idea a missing question mark would negate the question.
But really, kitty really doesn't want to answer the questions because well, that would mean she'd have to admit the harm the illegal invasion has caused.
Nice job kitty
Where's my gun? Damn dogs ...
darwin |
05.02.08 - 1:42 pm | #
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Nah it's not just you....but remember the psycho kitty NEVER actually answer's questions, ever.
Jenn |
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05.02.08 - 1:51 pm | #
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I remember all these things now. Not answering questions, no links, no proof ...
darwin |
05.02.08 - 3:09 pm | #
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I answered your questions and addressed your statements. I always do. If you don't like the answers, it doesn't mean that your questions weren't answered. Jenn, you ALWAYS say I don't answer questions. That would be false.
Leave it to right wingers to require that the answer to their questions be the answer they want to hear.
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No, you didn't ... but whatever. I remember your MO kitty, and won't expect any questions answered in the future either.
darwin |
05.02.08 - 3:44 pm | #
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Christmas was originally a German Holiday. Dork.
Mudkitty
Actually, the Birth was celebrated in pagan Rome in December to coincide with their pagan rituals - so they (Christians) wouldn't get fed to the lions for heresy.
It then translated to Europe where other pagan traditions were added to it, like the tree, among other things.
Christmas, as we know it today, was made a Federal holiday with Santa, tree and wreathe to secularize it - so everybody could play and not feel left out.
The purists never held with those traditions - but who cares? The secular things are fun, too.
Libs today want to take secular holidays and make Santa and the Easter Bunny religious. In actuality they are attacking Americana. Our traditions.
Of all people pissed about this, Jews are most vocal about it - they LOVE our secular Christmas!
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05.02.08 - 3:58 pm | #
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I've always wondered why the Jewish people liked our Christmas so much - heck, their Hannukah thing goes on for eight days, with presents every day...
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05.02.08 - 4:28 pm | #
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Yeah - but cary, their "presents" are things like that top thingy and a notepad and pens - heard a jewish kid say as much. They LOVE our Christmas.
One of my favorite Jewish comedians started out one routine complaining about libs trying to quash Christmas. His only complaint was seeing Christmas earlier and earlier. Complained he was now seeing holly, santa and trees next to Pumpkins and witches. His punchline was, "Just answer me one thing - how long does it take you Christians to SHOP?"
I LOVED it! He was FUNNY!
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.02.08 - 4:45 pm | #
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Good point, wit.
Yeah, it's the shopping thing that kills us!
cary - Botan Ichihara |
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05.03.08 - 1:54 am | #
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Witless, what was the date that Christmas was made a Federal Holiday, rather that a mass? Please enlighten us.
As for jews, I love how you non-jews presume to speak for them.
And hey, I'm an atheist, but I love Christmas. But then I love most religious holidays. Sorry to dissapoint you.
My husband is jewish, and he was not raised with Christmas, even tho his parents weren't practicing jews. (He always rolls his eyes at my Christmas fetish. I always them that not celebraiting Christmas is child abuse, and we all have a good laugh.)
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05.03.08 - 6:15 am | #
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New map of America! 
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05.03.08 - 2:04 pm | #
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http://usinfo.state.gov/scv/Arch.../08-
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Most Protestants and Roman Catholics and some Orthodox Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25. Before the 19th century, many Americans worked on Christmas, but in the industrial era the holiday began also to honor universal values, such as home, children and family life, and to incorporate secular customs like exchanging gifts and cards, and the decoration and display of evergreen "Christmas Trees." Congress proclaimed Christmas a federal holiday in 1870. In 1999, a federal court acknowledged these secular aspects in rejecting a claim that the holiday impermissibly endorsed and furthered a particular religious belief.
So fuck off a - and I don't give a shit about your jewish husband. Don't presume that you know the only jewish guy on the planet.
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.03.08 - 3:53 pm | #
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As for jews, I love how you non-jews presume to speak for them. My husband is jewish. a
That makes YOU a non-jew. So presumably YOU can't speak for them either.
I was repeating what I've heard them say themselves. But I call them friends - not my jewish friends.
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.03.08 - 4:33 pm | #
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I never said I was a jew. And I don't/didn't presume to speak for them.
1870 - thank you. What other research have you finally come up with?
Now, note the difference between a mass and a federal holiday.
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05.03.08 - 5:31 pm | #
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I wouldn't know - I'm not Catholic.
My whole point was the federal holiday of Christmas is secular - not religious. I just threw some historical context into it becuase you said it was German - it's not.
Being an atheist (no disrespect to you, Miss Jenn - a is a whole different animal) I wouldn't expect YOU to understand anything about Christmas and the reason behind it.
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.03.08 - 5:50 pm | #
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"Now, note the difference between a mass and a federal holiday"
What? I still haven't figured out kitty's point. Random thoughts in a leftie's mind are not unlike the early atomic particles born of the big bang. Matter and anti-matter meet and the entire mass is annihilated ... leaving nothing.
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05.03.08 - 8:05 pm | #
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Oh please Darwin, you're smarter than that.
Are you serious? You don't know the difference between Christ Mass - the origin of Christmas, and the federal Christmas Holiday? Please. Hey, even I gave you more credit than that.
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05.03.08 - 8:49 pm | #
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Our local chain store is holding a CINO DeMAYO sale and its not a american holiday LET THEM CELEBRATE IT IN MEXICO
sandpiper
Christmas was originally a German Holiday. Dork.
Mudkitty
You don't know the difference between Christ Mass - the origin of Christmas, and the federal Christmas Holiday? kittybot
That was just to remind you how we got here. You tried to tell us that Christmas was brought to us by the Germans so you could shut sandpiper up about the illegals here trying to change our culture.
We have debunked everything you have said. So you have evolved to the point that you are now trying to take MY comments and answers to you and steal them for your own and in the process change the question YET AGAIN!
Try having a friggin original thought for once in your God Forsaken life!
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.03.08 - 9:16 pm | #
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*go witness*
*go witness*
cary - Botan Ichihara |
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05.03.08 - 10:50 pm | #
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W - BS. You haven't debunked anything. You've just proven my point.
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05.04.08 - 10:02 am | #
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*go witness*
*go witness*
cary - Botan Ichihara
Thank you, Cary! The kittybot is actually quite easy to trip up. All you have to do is stick to the point and don't let her dissemble, disregard or distract. She'll try redirection after that - but just keep her on point and her head explodes.
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.04.08 - 10:51 am | #
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Plagiarist.
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05.04.08 - 11:22 am | #
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Plagiarist.
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Spelling-nazi.....
witness (aka BGTBTXTWP) |
05.04.08 - 11:50 am | #
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"You haven't debunked anything. You've just proven my point"
You don't have a point. That was my point. You're just rambling about nothing. You have been debunked by wit and everyone else.
darwin |
05.04.08 - 12:31 pm | #
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*go darwin*
*go darwin*
wit - exactly.
And now, here I am, continuing to cheer the troops, for whom I have so much love and respect ...
cary - Botan Ichihara |
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05.04.08 - 2:46 pm | #
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Oh brother. Good grief Charlie Browns.
Mudkitty |
05.05.08 - 9:55 am | #
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Eat shit, shitkitty.
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05.05.08 - 10:54 am | #
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Are you people STUPID? you talk about these things as if you have the answer, yet you forget what all the immigrants go through . what about the Illegal soldiers who give their life for this great country, only to find their mothers and fathers who instilled those values in them have been deported, lost their house, belongings, Even dignity in those “ Safe “ immigration prisons. What about the things you DON’T hear on FOX, like the abuses, the rapes, mistreatment, discrimination, of women, children who have for years supported their community, worked their peaceful jobs, attended their school and helped build it, paid their taxes. Why did they end up there? Only because they have had the desire to better their life, search for opportunities, and give their children a life they never had, the education they could never afford in their country. IS THAT A BIRTH RIGHT? When some Anglo-American is probably sitting around in his trailer watching jerry Springer living off government welfare? Yet apparently he’s a better American then the illegal immigrant who strives and works everyday of his life to give their children a future. Sure some illegals are criminals and drug dealers, but so are Anglos, and Chinese, and those of African American decent. Last time I checked every man in this country is of immigrant decent. Is that not what makes America the “melting pot”? Every single one of them came to America with a dream and desire to be better, or just to escape debts., persecution and maybe even just for fun. So who are you to label Latinos and say what they should or shouldn’t do? If criminals affect the country... put them in prison, but leave the honest hard workers live their life in peace with the rights they work for. Remember no matter whom you are or what you look like you’re dealing with HUMAN BEINGS not objects, nor labels. Their all children, mothers, fathers, brothers, soldiers, students, teachers, lovers, workers, church members, and leaders. Give them something to be proud of… a country who doesn’t judge, a new breed of humans that see past the skin, a country that helps the needy and picks up the broken. If these men and women cannot survive in their country due to corrupt government which cannot be taken open your arms to these lives as America opened its arms to you.
Elias |
03.06.09 - 7:47 pm | #
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Miss Jenn! Cleanup on aisle nine! Matt/rufus/jared/elias is pooping all over a dead thread!
witness |
03.07.09 - 6:28 am | #
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I see it Wit and laughed my ass off. I even read it on the show last night so we could mock it.
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03.07.09 - 7:35 am | #
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