This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
I mean, I don't know what Obama is peeing in his pants about. What Bush said is true ... appeasement does nothing but spill more blood further down the road. It never works.
Same with the bully at school ... the only time the bully stops bullying, is when one refuses to be bullied.
If Obama was smart he would have agreed with Bush. Now he's on the defensive.
Besides, Bush didn't mention Obama or Pelosi by name or title or rank or anything, yet oddly enough, they got awfully defensive. Go figure.
Me thinks the wankers doth protest too much.
Monkey boy is up to his rug head in LIES again, lol.
Monkey boy has a guilty concious.
Monkey boy may be intellectually smart but as far as life goes, HE IS AN IDIOT!!!
Waddaya think about California approving gay marriage, so sayeth the Fornicalia "Supreme" Court?
BZ
Great picture regarding Osama's hissy fit here. 
Nazi appeasers?
Not from my vantage point. I don't see obama or his supporters appeasing to this generation's nazi's. You people.
As for bush. Ballsy for a man who has NAZISM IN HIS FAMILY, to be pointing the finger. "I know you are but what am I" Only works with elementary school children, fascists.
Your done. Stop your treason, get off the air, repent for you past actions, and let's move forward as a nation. Please stop the treason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre...i/
Prescott_Bush
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/
....secondworldwar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h?
v=1D6fxyOtVeI
Lies, lies, lies, blah, blah, blah! You are sooooo boring! Go put your tinfoil hat back on you nazi-lover! You're treason shows everytime you open your mouth! Obama has already said in his book that should the politics in the country turn against islam he would intervene and support islam. It's in his book - he said he was a muzzie supporter. So are you - ergo you are a traitor!
On the gay issue - that is really sad. The people of California have voted this down twice and a few jerks in robes have thrown the state constitution in the toilet. This is what's been happening with our asshat courts all over the country and nationally with the supremes. Our founders never meant for this to happen.
Witness, Obama is too close to being a Muslim for my liking, but gay marriage shouldn't bother any sane rational person.
It occurred to me today while watching Barack’s political adviser on Fox today that they are predominantly young people; Barack is a mere 46 years old. Their ultraistic ideas of what should work have very little credibility when arguing against age and experience. It appears to me that though they are 'book smart', they have very little wisdom and are arguing from an emotional position with no substance, and when opposed, an emotional response is all they can give.
Hmmm, Is this not the same thing that has been said many times, many ways?
"but gay marriage shouldn't bother any sane rational person."
That is totally NOT the point. We the voters of California twice voted down the legalization of gay marriage, but in this state democracy is only valid if it supports a liberal agenda.
Screw the asshat in a robe. Legislators not Judges make these decisions anyway. I hate this state!
Rufus - put down the bong and keep your Dorito stained fingers off the computer. Anyone who protests like you do is hiding something, and I suspect it has something to do with a crack addiction and Bernie Ward's picture book.
Barack Obama is looking to pick a fight, and we all know that Dems will run the next election as if Bush is running for a third term. Lucky for us that Barry is a time bomb waiting to go off, and as soon as he gets the nomination, the truth will out...
"We the voters of California twice voted down the legalization of gay marriage, but in this state democracy is only valid if it supports a liberal agenda."
Imagine if the court declared abortion to be illegal in Califorina.
"..but gay marriage shouldn't bother any sane rational person."
The Atheist Jew
Gawfer already said it, but I'll respond in kind. That's not what this was about. It's what you're trying to make it about - what all libs want to make it about - but that's not what this decision was about. It was about overturning the will of the people in California - hello! Moonbat central! - who twice voted to NOT amend their constitution to ALLOW gay marriage. Now a judge has said the vote AND the constitution is unconstitutional.
If there is any tradition - and marriage is a human tradition, not just a Western or American tradition - then the left wants it gone. Dismantled.
There is no reason in the world why gays can't be happy with civil unions with all the legal amenities that go with it. Marriage is a religious sacrement and the left wants to crush it. Next they will start demanding that churches perform these "marriages" regardless of whether the church holds gay marriage as against God's Law. Won't matter - only islam will be exempt.
All the commercials Arnie does in the world isn't going to keep good folk in that state when they flaunt the will of the people like they have. There will be yet another mass exodus from the state as more people - fed up with the crap - flee the state in droves.
All Jungle members are welcome out here! We need conservatives to counter the Marylander refugee vote!
Marriage does not have to have religious overtones. The first marriages in history weren't religious.
The judge is correct.
If mandatory church attendance was to be voted on and more than half the population believed that going to church should be mandatory, it doesn't mean that people should have to go to church.
I have no idea why it bothers people if gays get married. It is strictly someone trying to push their religion onto other people, and as I've said before, marriage doesn't have to have anything to do with religion.
Regarding Bush, I have never hesitated to criticize the guy when I felt the need but I'll sing his praises when I think he's right and this time he hit it OUT of the park...
As to the bone smokers and carpet munchers getting married, uh, wait, that's not too PC is it?? Never mind...
Actually the only reason Gay rights crusaders are demanding marriage is because they want their lifestyle to reflect society's norms event though their lifestyle is in direct contradiction to the physiology of human reproduction and human nature.
Gay marriage aside it's the people who should decide how to they want their society to function not the supreme dictators and their presumed progressive ideology.
RUFUS the DUFUS said"
"Nazi appeasers?
Not from my vantage point. I don't see obama or his supporters appeasing to this generation's nazi's. You people."
Dufus, you come from a vantage point of DELUSIONS & DELIRIUMS. We SUPPORT KICKING MUZZIE ASS YOU DO NOT. You are an EMSCULATED KKKoward, spineless FAGGOT that has your head firmly placed up your ASS.
TAKE YOUR MEDS DUFUS.
There is nothing GAY about a homosexual PERVERT. I call 'em homosexuals or faggots or perverts, NEVER gay.
Atheist Jew the PERVERT you take it up the ass from your faggot boyfriend.
Free advice to jenn jon and anyone else here that owns a fascist propoganda site, meant to mislead the eldery and put fear in anger in them. Free advice. Get off the air, close down your hate sites snd propaganda radio shows. rejoin america. admit past mistakes, and let's move forward together. Please do the right thing. Close this site down and get off the radio with hate and lies. Free the elderly in your clutches.
"when you begin shadow boxing, sometimes the shadows become real."
Atheist Jew the homosexual pervert your homosexualism is SEXUAL PERVERSION. What's next? Someone loves his pig. Now let's make beastiality legal? Someone loves his sister, let's make incest legal. Then the same goes for multiples wives or husbands, let's make polygamy legal.
Where do we stop?
Besides this is about the constitutional & the WILL of the PEOPLE not your faggot love jew.
You are a cancer on the wonderful Jews that I know. They are Jewish Christians, wonderful Jewish Christians. I call them REAL Jews and COMPLETE Jews, like Jesus Christ, God Almighty meant them to be, just like all the writers, the except for Luke were. Jews started Christianity.
Atheist jew... LOL.. now there i an oxy MORON.
mar·riage Audio Help (mār'ĭj) Pronunciation Key
n.
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1. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
Man and wife. Marriage is a religeous ceremony.
No one has issue with same sex civil union. Get over it.
Free advice to Matt:
Suck my dick, bitch.
I'm not gay. Never got a Woody from a man. I don't have any close friends that I know of who are gay.
mar·riage (mrj)
n.
1.
a. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
b. The state of being married; wedlock.
c. A common-law marriage.
d. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.
2. A wedding.
3. A close union: "the most successful marriage of beauty and blood in mainstream comics" Lloyd Rose.
4. Games The combination of the king and queen of the same suit, as in pinochle.
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Where to stop? I stop at consenting adults when it comes to marriage.
Those who can't deal with same sex marriage are religidiots, nothing more, nothing less.
Those who can't handle same sex marriages need to get over it. You are jokes. Marriage is just a word, nothing more, nothing less.
Religious nut cases who marry 4 or 5 times in their lives do more damage to the word marriages than gays who get married.
"...I have no idea why it bothers people if gays get married. It is strictly someone trying to push their religion onto other people, and as I've said before, marriage doesn't have to have anything to do with religion..."
The Atheist Jew
dude or dudette, you have not paid attention to the issue and are attempting to impose your own belief system on others; the very thing you are accusing others of doing.
The issue is not why people voted the way they did, rather, that a judge decided that they/we voted wrong; That our opinions do mot matter as it doesn't align with his ideas. In this case, a VERY small minorty triumphed against the majority which goes completely against our system of government.
So stay on point.
The judge made his decision because it is not something that should have been voted on in the first place.
The vote is unConstitutional in the first place. Kudos to the judge.
I live in Canada, we have risen about you doofuses.
Atheist Jew the homosexual pervert your homosexualism is SEXUAL PERVERSION
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Homosexuality occurs more naturally than red headedness (except in maybe Ireland).
Most scientific research has found that it occurs in the womb during fetal development.
Now I'm not sure if your ignorance is nature or nurture, but it probably is a combination of the two.
Atheist Jew I know some canuks. They say you are a big PERVERTED FAG in that frozen wasteland called Canadastan, home of cowards, traitors & sexual perverts like you, LOL.
HOMOSEXUAL PERVERTS ARE NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED besides unlike fascist nazi pilamic canadastan USA is supposed to be a democracy not ruled by activist judges.
Namvet, it is idiots like you that makes Canadians like me laugh at many Americans.
You are probably a proud anti-evolutionist hillbilly. LOL
You were taught that Jeebus is fact, when in fact, Jesus most probably never existed. I've written lots about that on my blog.
You are a caricature, just someone for me to laugh at. I'm passed pitying you doofuses.
Oh, and I'm pro Iraq war. Islam needed a good bitch slapping, and they still need one. It is us or them.
They are just like you though when it comes to gay marriage and trying to force your idiotic beliefs and fairy tales on the general public.
"I live in Canada, we have risen about you doofuses."
The Atheist Jew | Homepage | 05.15.08 - 8:12 pm | #
A.J.,
What the hell are you worried about U.S. law you arrogant punk?
Might I suggest a plexiotomy?
Definition:
Plexiotomy- a procedure in which a physician surgically inserts a small sheet of plexiglass in the naval region of your stomach to accommodat vision for those like you who have their heads up their ass.
So here is my opinion:
Your's doesn't even count.
we have risen about you doofuses
Uh...what? English not your forté, hoser?
Gawfer, your opinion is a joke. I hate to see my Americans remain a joke to the Western world when it comes to science and separation of church and state.
Why do you care about Iraq, you don't live there?
And Gawfer, I'm not interested in your cures. I don't have what you have. And I'm thankful for that.
we have risen about you doofuses
Uh...what? English not your forté, hoser?
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I meant "above"
Not sure if the plural for doofus is doofuses or doofi though.
LO, RIGHT! AND BUSH'S POLICIES HAVE WORKED SOOOO WELL! IDIOTS.
Hopefully in 40 years, Bush will be remembered as the President who bitch slapped Islam into the 21st Century.
Man listen to all the haters and idiotshere
" too close to being a Muslim: Huh?
"Monkey boy is up to his rug head in LIES again, lol."
Fess up, you guys are all in high school right?
And he will. Bush.
AJ.....the point that Gawfer makes is not only on POINT, but what this country was built on.
We are not a democracy, we are a Republic. The people are supposed to be heard, you know, WE THE PEOPLE??
In California, where I live, the people have overwhelmingly said they do not support gay marriage.
Most of the the people, in fact the vast majority do not have issue with gay civil unions.
And as an atheist myself, even I can recognize, that marriage is a religious ceremony.
I'm way passed high school. In Islam you are considered a moderate if you don't want to blow up innocent people.
That is all you need to know.
Goosestep, when you actually comment and don't just drive by, and actually say something, you'll be worth addressing. Until then kiss my dogs 6th tit.
Jenn, I don't recognize marriage as a religious ceremony, but on the other hand, there are factions of every religion (except maybe Mormon and Muslim) who will marry gays.
The reason your nation is supposed to be great is that it is supposed to have separation of church and state.
Again, using my example, lets say white Christians are the majority in California. Do you think it would be OK to have a vote that said Jews can only get married in a Christian Church?
Maybe that vote would go through. Maybe the majority would vote that way.
Would that be a Constitutional vote?
Actually there is nothing in our constitution that says there is a separation of church and state.
Just that there is no state sponsored religion.
And even though I do have friends who are gay, frankly none give a crap about being "married". They just want the rights. Which a union will give.
Men and men are not meant to be together nor are woman scientifically.
Just like we are in no way vegetarians....we are also meant to mate male/female. Period.
That people choose partners of the same sex is really a choice. And no problem with it here.
I'll be attending the civil union of my best friend later this year in Hawaii.
There are some gays that want to get married, why stop them?
And your Constitution completely implies separation of church and state, or my example of Jews getting married in churches and all kinds of other things would be tested all over the place.
As an aside, I'm sure the majority of the crowd here would love to see my Mohammed Bear video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ZM6_LGc-c
I even did one on my attitude towards homosexuality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2BsmhNPXao
Jews get married in a religious ceremony.
Face it, it' a religious ceremony.
Was this before or after they did 9/11?
1) Is that a penis tie?
2) Oddly enough the biggest gay bashers are the leftists.
Who Rex? The Joooooooo's?
Jenn, you can get married at City Hall.
It doesn't have to be a religious ceremony. I got married in a religious ceremony to appease my parents.
Yes, it is a penis tie. I got it for my 40th birthday...7 years ago. I needed an occasion to wear it, so I did the video.
The Religious Right could be easily called Leftists by definition.
Jew lites, Osama was working for the Knesset.
Proven fact, check the holographic record.
Hey Rex, great to see more insane loonies here.
AJ..... why the need for the word marriage?
I thought the point was the same rights?
Nope. One thing I'll never get is the need for the word marriage. Civil union and they have no problem.
Rex....you are crazy man. Love it.
AJ..... the only insane loonies here are the two Moonbats I banned, who still post all the time.
The rest range from totally chill to slightly deranged and everywhere in between.
Jenn, it is just a word. Why does it bother people so much? I just don't get it.
Brittany Spears and the Hollywood crowd get married all the time.
Am I supposed to be offended that they use the same word I do to describe my union with my wife?
I have an MA in psychology, I have to be crazy......
Haahahahaha.......
I know I can get monbats all a twitter in a hurry, it's a gift...
Marriage is not just a word it is an institution. Don't try to minimize it. FAGGOTS are DESTROYING this institution & the world.
Homosexual perverts are FORCING their PERVERTED lifestyles on all of us. They are PERVERTING our society. It is illegal to say that FAGS can quit being FAGS. But FAGS can call for death or our troops & president. I will NEVER ACCEPT faggots as anthing other than SICK PERVERTS that deserve AIDS.
Homosexuals are PERVERTS from the word go, SICK PERVERTS nothing good about them.
AJ do you accept beastiality, incest, polygamy as acceptable lifestyles? If not, then why not? They are all just as perverted as homosexuality. A human with an animal is just as unnatural & perverted as homosexuality. I see absolutey no difference. A man on a man is just as unnatural & perverted as a man on a pig.
Sounds as if you have experience with 'swine love'.
I pegged you for pig fucker.
And dammned if I wasn't right.
AJ do you accept beastiality, incest, polygamy as acceptable lifestyles?
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Beastiality, absolutely not. I only accept sex done by consenting adults, or consenting teen on teen sex.
Incest is a tough one. Do you accept that the fictitious Adam and Eve had kids who must have had incestuous relationships in order for the human race to grow? Obviously incest that includes adult on child doesn't fit with my consenting adults acceptance, but if it was two consenting teens or two consenting adults, outside of the social stigma, I guess it is up to the participants though if they have kids, the kids are more likely to be mentally or physically defective. That is why we have evolved a taboo against it as humans.
Polygamy? When brainwashing (ie religious cult) is involved...definitely not. I wouldn't mind having a few wives though. One for each night of the week
And besides, homosexuality is not a disease, it is not something that can be cured.
Most homosexuals have a huge homosexual bias in the way their brain is made up.
Like I said in my video Namvet, those who scream out most against homosexuality probably are trying to fight their gay brain.
Do you dream of having butt sex with Jay Leno?
The Atheist Jewsaid: "Hopefully in 40 years, Bush will be remembered as the President who bitch slapped Islam into the 21st Century."
Bush will be known as this country's biggest error. You can't 'bitch slap' the world into submission asshole.
"Bush will be known as this country's biggest error. You can't 'bitch slap' the world into submission asshole."
I think your comment would be better directed at the islamist assholes who are actually trying to do that you ignorant waste of food and air.
The US is the only country left on this earth that is capable of keeping the world from falling into socialist tryannical hell. Our willingness to stop that from happening is slowly being sapped by the likes of stupid assholes like you.
If it does happen, and we eventually succumb to your idea of "utopia", you'll have no one to blame but your gutless self.
Fuck you.
Goosestep, you really are out of touch with reality. Fuckwit.
AJ.... if looked at scientifically, being gay is a "default", as human beings are not only physically built to interact and mate with the opposite sex, it's how we procreate and breed.
That being asid, do I have a problem with gay people living their lives how they do? Two consenting adults? Not at all in any way. Though clearly Nam Vet does.
That is not the issue here. The issue is as you say it, the word. Marriage. It is, no matter how much you want to deny it, to the overwhelming vast majority of people in this world, a religious institution. A religious RIGHT of passage. And this or that religion do not accept gay marriage. Period.
So, go forward with civil union, get equal rights and leave the Christians alone and all is well. Well except with Nam Vet.
Nam dude, do you know any gay people? Most are no different than you or me. Just people, in fact of my gay friends versus my heterosexual friends, they have the longer monogamous relationships. Look at Kris, how long have her and PC been together, years and years and are two wonderful happy thriving adults. Neither of which ram anything down anyone's throat.
I think you are equating all gays with those in San Franshitco who sell Jesus dildo's and whip each other in the street in front of kids. And this is simply not the case.
Wow! I went to bed too early last night!
Well, it appears that AJ has half an education and a whole lot of opinion, and will continue to argue his opinion against the will of the people of California. Yep, that holds water.
Jenn blew a hole in his argument about separation of church and state, and I thought I heard birds chirp, LOL!. Mr. Canada knows SOOOO much about the United States Constitution, he's going to come and school us on why 61% of Californians are WRONG... besides, how did the ‘Defense of Marriage Act’ make it on the ballot in 2000 anyway? Oh yeah, it received the required amount of signatures of the citizens of California as well.
Your condition does allow you to self perform visual colonoscopies, so off you go lad, and don’t forget to breathe.
AJ is from Canada, which is currently embroiled in a battle for free speech. I wonder which side he takes on that?
It's a good day in the neighborhood. Or so says the recently deceased Mr. Rogers.... I see dead people.
Jenn,
1) they are homosexuals not gay
2) I don't need to step in shit to know that it is not good for you.
3) a lot of child molesters are real nice people otherwise, as per what I've seen reported on the news
4) a lot of these female teachers that are being railroaded cuz they are bringing some joy into these guys lives are real nice too
5) a lot of otherwise "nice" thieves, burglers, car thieves & drug addicts,
6) I don't care how "nice" a person is if their lifestyle is full of perversion & they are FORCING it on all of us to me that does not make them nice.
the main thing I got against homosexual perverts is that they are FORCING their perverted lifestyles on all of us & perverting the constitution & usurping the will of the people.
Nam, how exactly are homosexuals forcing anything on you?
I mean I grew up in San Fran have worked with, lived with and partied with a whole lot of "homosexualss" in my time and none have forced jack shit on me.
Unless you count the time Mike forced, I mean FORCED, me to help him drink an entire bottle of Don Julio.
Jenn, there is an effort to expose kids to homosexuality in schools at a very young age. How someone chooses to live is their choice, they shouldn't force that choice on others.
I'm buying up stock in Ghiridhelli's. Since all wedding cakes in California will now appropriately be fudge!
I hate to see my Americans remain a joke to the Western world when it comes to science and separation of church and state.
Why do you care about Iraq, you don't live there?
The Atheist Jew
Why do you care about us? You don't live here? You and roid-boy have a lot of nerve commenting on countries that your not citizens of.
The point of the whole post was that a handful of activist judges overturned the will of the people of the state of California. That's not how our laws and courts were supposed to work!
"Why do you care about us? You don't live here? You and roid-boy have a lot of nerve commenting on countries that your not citizens of.
The point of the whole post was that a handful of activist judges overturned the will of the people of the state of California. That's not how our laws and courts were supposed to work!"
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That's my WITNESS!!!
Jenn's right, NV
I've got nothing to stick down your throat.
lol
LOL Kris.
Watch it Wit.....how are we supposed to bag on England if we can't bag on other countries?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/
home...5122.guest.html
this is the link to Rush Limbaugh's site where he talks about Hussein Osama saying he's gonna campaign in 57 states..., 57 ISLAMIC STATES!!! They say he was tired & slipped. I agree HE SLIPPED & LET THE TRUTH OUT.
This BIGOT is a MUZZIE TERRORIST through & through
You can't 'bitch slap' the world into submission asshole.
Well, I bitch slapped your old lady into submission last night, if that counts.
I care about the States more than I care about what is happening in Iraq, but I'm not making a case for not caring about either.
Most Americans care about many countries that they don't live in.
Nothing wrong with that.
Watch it Wit.....how are we supposed to bag on England if we can't bag on other countries?
Jenn
Yeah - but we bag on England on an American site - NOT an English one. We don't have that bad of manners!
Atheist Jew, Huh? What say ya'll that this is the bot again? She's an atheist who claims to be married to a jew. Coincidence? I think not! I say it's the bot. Just as looney too!
"What say ya'll that this is the bot again?"
Strong possibility. She does like to take on different personas. Jenn would be able to tell.
Nope, not the bot! Just a atheist Jew from Canada.
Well bro/ sis. Iam sorry to say that you are as reactionary as Richard Nixon was when he contested for the Presidency agaibst JFK.
The era of backwardness is quickly coming to an end here in the USA. That's without changing the capitalist system.
The era of "my weapons is bigger than yours and can kill more people"....is also coming to an end. The excursion into Iraq has killed that thought. The deaf men George , Dick, and John cannot hear the wheels of change crunching behind them.
Talking to adversaries is an old military strategy that George Washington fully exploited to the advantage of establishing the new America.
My real point of contention in the middle east is that militarism is rampant in Israel and all the Arab countries. None is better than the other. Israel allows it political decisions to be heavily influenced by its miltary complex. So there is no rationale or breathing room for tolerance . This is what George is accusing reasoned thinking Americans of trying to find . The military complexes in Israel and the USA love making weapons to blow up people. If the circumstance were ever to emerge where the weapons are less needed these cpmplexes will loose their value. Peace will be given a chance to reign. But george don't want that..is'nt that correct ?
Hey armchair jockey - the only thing that's changed is a bunch of idealogues no longer adhere to a country and wear a uniform (as has been done for centuries) they use kids and retarded women to strap on a bomb vest and blow apart a marketplace full of innocent people who also happen to share their religion. Did you understand that? I tried to use small words.....
Hey jockey, without a horse,
Which do you prefer..the retarded women and kids blown away with a bomb from our phantom jet, which they never heard or saw before it made them into sand. Or you prefer that they die honoring their country..or maybe in defense of their country.
That's why they fight with out uniforms.They don't have time for niceties, our bombs will kill them like dogs anyway.
I hope you will love your country and your patriotism will make you want to fight without clothes, if necessary,if China invaded the your city,State and Country. (I also used small words but simple explanations).
Because of the information age education has all of us seeking truth from facts. Can you dig it??
So simply, it is not their religion that they fighting for . They are fighting for the same dignity President George Washington fought for. They use the religion as a common factor of mobilisation and kinship.
Remember that our US forces invaded and destroyed a country that never..never..never did an American or its ally any wrong.
Imagine ..I am saying these things as an Armchair Jockey... Just think how much wisdom I would have had, if I had a real horse to help guide some sense into your redblooded American head. Imagine how smart you will have been.
Oh fuck. Another clueless lost soul who touts "wisdom".
What..oh mighty fuck, do you tout? Since every human being has to tout something ..Can you describe your toutness'. I trust wisdom, what do you trust?
Do not disappoint me and say nothing...or have no reply. Oh fuck ..I hope you surprise me. George Bush did not.
My dog tooted earlier is that the same?
Is a toot a tout?
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The terrorist monkey can not be negotiated with. The only reason to maybe talk to Ahmadamadmonkey in say maybe Switzerland is to provoke him by debating his ideology and criticizing the hatred. Force him to say lots of stupid and insane things which would be widely publicized thus educating more people to his ideology's insanity. This, I am quite sure, Obama would never do.
Ouch, Obama and the poor little Dems were hit a little too close to home by what GW said. It's one of the best things Bush has ever said. Bravo! And he didn't even have to mention the Dhimmicrats or any body's name.
So sure, then he folded in Saudi Arabia, but what he said in Israel almost makes that OK.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
appease the appeasers
don't embarrass them
by calling them appeasers
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe said
have a sit down with Hitler
he should have been sweet-talked
he had goodness within
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Appeasement Talk Bothers Appeasers
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"What..oh mighty fuck, do you tout?"
Depends on the subject.
Since your "touting" was all over the place ... I was inclined to simply tout on your proclaimed "wisdom".
A very educated response. darwin.
I am speechless. I am wondering if your political opinion is just as pointless.
I supposed you are touting conservative republican "wisdom".
The kind of wisdom that has America in a monkey pajamas today.
I will "tout" the original intent of the founders of this country ... individual freedom, free markets, small, unintrusive, limited government ... and security from enemies foreign and domestic.
Party affiliation means nothing. However, since we in reality only have two, I'm forced to side with whatever party can come closest.
Ideally, a third party will come along that has the numbers and money to finally give the Socialist Party (democrats), and the Democrat Party (Republicans) a run for their money.
Now that is wisdom. Great response. But unfortunately the desire for a small unintrusive limited government will never happen . That's a figment of the monarchists /Royalists and deceiving Conservatives/ Republican Government of the super rich.
The utopian dream of a government that serves mainly the minority, leaving the working masses to fend for themselves , has been exposed by the George Bush administration.
The new mechanisms for national prosperity will come when the party that is ruling, comes to the realization that their responsiblity is ensure that a system is in place to provide the goods and services that the people need to sustain and expand their existence and that it works terribly efficient. That's the next US government's role.
The American peoples' responsibility in this bargain will be to work as hard as we do now. with expectation that the local or Federal supports us as facilitators to our social needs. That includes health and health care etc.
How does that sound to you.?
"The American peoples' responsibility in this bargain will be to work as hard as we do now. with expectation that the local or Federal supports us as facilitators to our social needs."
Sounds like forced labor and perpetual servitude to the government to me.
Great response, Henry! Another word for it would be - serfdom!
Hey Henry,
Not to be rude, but comprehension is important when discussing politics.
So let's break it down.
The American people are listed as the hardest workers on the planet. That's why our production has been the highest for decades.
We work hard on the factory floor. We work on the farms. We work in the Offices. We work building new buildings and houses. We work in every industry. I just did some hard work helping out an elderly couple maintain their property .
So where is the "forced labor" where in America is there "perpetual servitude".
And to you "witness" you are playing follow the blind?
Since my fellow Americans and the lazy bones, who becomes insipid when the phrase "hard work" is used. Since we already put out all that hard work, all am adding is for the Government become an efficient facilitator for our social needs and services.
If you become super rich..then you do not need a social facilitator. But the millions of Americans that live within the USA , for all their hard work and effort while bringing great taxes to the Treasury and riches to the super rich..still have to struggle to find adequate social services. Is that difficult to understand...Henry and "Iam a witness"
All you propose is socialism, bigger, more powerful unaccounatble government, and reason for people to be leeches on the backs of those who work hard.
"Since we already put out all that hard work, all am adding is for the Government become an efficient facilitator for our social needs and services."
Government never does anything efficiently. The more money you give government the more corrupt it becomes. Let the market meet the needs of people. Health care is the way it is today because of governemnt. Allowing millions of illegals into this country is one factor in our high costs.
"all am adding is for the Government become an efficient facilitator for our social needs and services."
LMAO!!!
I'll provide my own thanks.
Government big enough to give you everything you want, is government big enough to take everything you have.
-- Gerald Ford
"But the millions of Americans that live within the USA , for all their hard work and effort while bringing great taxes to the Treasury and riches to the super rich."
And you claim I have trouble comprehending?
"for all their hard work and effort while bringing great taxes to the Treasury and riches to the super rich..still have to struggle to find adequate social services."
My solution is simpler. Give people back their own money and let the market work. You'd be surprised at what people can afford when the government stops taking what they earn.
You forget for every government "service" ... a vast, bungling, inefficient bureaucracy must be built to administer it.
"If you become super rich..then you do not need a social facilitator."
Who in the hell needs a "social facilitator"? What the hell is that anyway?
People have been taught for decades that they can't take care of themselves. That needs to be untaught.
This country sure as hell wasn't built with people needing "social facilitators".
What country are you Americans vacationing . Or are your heads so deep into the sand that you cannot hear the cry of million of Americans. Those who lost their jobs , those who never get enough pay to satisfy their families.
Can you hear the cry of the millions of our fellow Americans who lose their homes to natural disasters and depend on some kind hearted individual or some famous person's charity ? Can you hear the stumbling of the kids who cannot read because of inadequate educational system.
I doubt that you are deaf..I think you are so brainwashed that you automatically , like a chained up monkey ..beep out .."socialism" and "illegal immigrants". The chinese are making toys that allows children to ask their computerised dolls and Gi joes.. certain questions and the toys answer and respond just like you did. Is'nt that brainwash ?
What does socialism have to do with making America social services better? What does Illegal immigrants have to do with making our Govt becoming more efficient?
Think ..think we have to solve the problems or at least have some sensible and innovative solutions before January 20th 2009. The worn out responses are tired , stale and ineffective..
We can do it..we have done it before. we abolished slavery and found a more lucrative economic system..is'nt that correct?
To my friend Henry,
I feel like an NFL coach that has a High school player on his team. I have to break down and explain simple footbal terms, such as "glide to the right" and "go deep".
No insult meant,buddy, but when we work and get paid, the government takes a decided portion , as taxes, to pay for our social services. These include roads, schools, health services, national and local security, community protection, jails to put bad guys and gals in,Libraries, disaster preparations..etc..etc..
When we work for corporations or private businesses some of what we produce goes to pay us and the majority belongs to the corporation or business as profit. It is that profit that qualifies a business and or individual to become rich..or super rich . Good or bad that's how riches and wealth are accumulated. So don't try to embarrass the messenger..just understand the message...and agree or disagree then let us discuss.
Fine, I'll live under your "utopian" system.
Although, I won't be working; that's my utopia.
Where's my house, my food, my clothing, my car, my TV, my computer, my...?
The govenment is going to provide all of that for me, right? Tell them to deliver it to my door. That way, they will have efficiently facilitated my social needs and services. Oh yeah, speaking of, one of my social needs is a case of imported beer and a box of Cohibas every week. They're going to be the "efficient facilitator" for
my "social needs and services", right?
And what will your "utopian" government do when I don't want to work?
Do you even know what utopian means?
"Can you hear the stumbling of the kids who cannot read because of inadequate educational system."
Uh yeah ... who runs that education system?
Aw come on Henry , You sound like the coward politician of the 1950's and 60's. Where every idea that they did not think of before was a communist conspiracy.
What part of social services is a Tv provided. Even when we had the slave system , the social services meant taking care of the health of the slave so he or she could return the investment the Massa, paid for the Free labor he expects.
So now, we are finding out you are a smart alleck, really hiding behind stupidity.
On a final note, if everything I said results in your comment, then when your lazy ass don't work , the landlord or mortgage company will send you to the salvation army to find a bed.
But at least you can go the hospital and have them remove the tumor in your brain, that's causing you act embecilical.
Your fellow former worker- friends' insurance will pay to take care of your lazy ass. Because you are still a human being and an American.
All "feelings" and emotion. No common sense, or even financial sense at that.
1.6 trillion dollars out of our 2.9 trillion dollar budget went for "social services" last year.
You want more. You are nuts.
Darwin bro,
That's the point. Do you know, republicans and conservatives believes in giving working and middle class children sub par education to ensure that the kids of the Upper class and super rich occupy the higher levels of the corporate world.
Public schools for white folks in the lower income bracket were given a bare education . Rich white folks are given another quality edu.
Blacks in segregated schools were given another lower grade. So when desegredation took place the level did not really improve and still has not. But where will the disadvataged students go? They will the social service of education to be more efficient in serving effectively.
Yes Henry education and its quality is a social service.
In whose interest , what class of Americans did the Bush Administration serve , first second and last?
This method of underteaching students of lower income families is not new . The kings and Queens of Royalty used miseducation or lack of it as a means of discrimination.
That's why America was formed to counter the discrimination of the feudal system. That was a govt for the Royal Family and their minions around them.
In recent times the most blatant acts of discrimination in education was in Apartheid South Africa, they called the miseducation they meted out to black Africans "Bantu" education, which was a naked form of what Bush and the Republicans introduced the last 8 years.
In recent times the most blatant acts of discrimination in education was in Apartheid South Africa, they called the miseducation they meted out to black Africans "Bantu" education, which was a naked form of what Bush and the Republicans introduced the last 8 years.
Yep. Poke a moonbat just enough and the frothing, fetid cesspool of stooooooooooooooooooopid is never far behind.
Don't worry assliker, I've got a pretty, pretty chapeau for you. Very trendy at your trendy sanitarium!
Ahh, the insults...
Why am I not surprised?
I'm done; it's a waste of time to continue on with someone who has no understanding of the economics of private business:
"When we work for corporations or private businesses some of what we produce goes to pay us and the majority belongs to the corporation or business as profit."
Have you ever even read a P&L statement before?
Someone who has a simpleton's idea of American history:
"You sound like the coward politician of the 1950's and 60's. Where every idea that they did not think of before was a communist conspiracy."
I don't even know what to say to stupidity like this.
Someone who ignores the realities of current government inefficiencies:
"Can you hear the stumbling of the kids who cannot read because of inadequate educational system."
As Darwin said, who runs that system now? You are obviously a product of it.
Yeah, you keep plugging for that utopia, SFB.
You know I was trying out a new way of dealing with idiots like you for a little while. It was actually working out quite well. Somehow I got off track; I'll be going back to that now:
Fuck yourself, Asslicar.
Darwin, I have to answer every misstep. I am just trying to help.
Money is NOT the issue.
Men invest trillions in a venture and they go bust. why ? because they had the wrong marketing philosophy. It happens everyday on Wall Street.
In philosophical terms . If your subjective does not comply with the objective world , then this leads to the inability to achieve your goals. You cannot go North and expect to end up in the South.
Spending money does not qualify , in itself as doing something to meet your goals. It can "facilitate" reaching that goal, but it is not a means in itself.
If the objective of spending 2.9 trillion was to achieve the philosophy of dumbing America then it was done.
If the objective of spending the money was to bring the national education levels to those of the super rich private schools, then if it wanted to, it would have done so. But it never did because that was not the objective.
But the education budget , when investigated , I will bet my last dollar, would have found to be unevenly distributed between the super rich , upper level middle class and those at the lower social levels.
Can you dig it?
I have to say I did not think that my insults ..or pretense at insults would bring out some decent conversation, from you Henry. I applaud you. However:
The method by which a business makes profit is elementary my dear friend, Henry. Many successful small busineses are owned by people who never had the opportunity to gain a degree in economics.
The point is inefficiencies does not make a thing useless. Government exist because there is a need for some organisation at the social level to organise and provide what the masses cannot provide individually.
If that was the right or correct thing to do, we would all be walking with two sawed off shotguns at our sides , taking care of our local protection and security.
But wise men drcided that an organisation called the Govt will provide that social service...called the police.
Radical Redneck,
A real radical redneck is someone that is not the run of the mill...loud mouth I normally meet at the sports bar. i love them we talk and laugh loud all the time.
If you are radical you will have to see things differently. You will be leader for social justice and against the exploitation of the circumstance Trailer Park dwellers find themselves, every four years, when the Republicans comes calling for support with official "buzz" words in their hands.
If you were a true radical you would not carelessly disfigure my name as if you are a drunken motorbike rider, in a bar looking to rush a lone man with your buddies.
So be a real radical come up with something radically different. After all that's what radical means. My Brother.
You know, you don't need 1,000 words to prove time and again you are just one more cookie-cutter, own feces eating, batshit crazy leftist.
Have some compassion man. Everyone who masochistically reads your bilge loses valuble IQ points.
You could do it just as well with 5: "I am my mom's buttplug"
My buddy Radical,
Before you joined the conversation, we were talking politics. we were debating social justice and injustices in the social services.
Such as health care for all. My friend if I was born a redneck I woulda be shouting and hooting about the lack of health care experienced by my friends in such cities as Plant city in Florida , and all those Trailer Parks communities surrounding the city Tampa Bay. It hurts my heart to see humans treated like that.
I tell this story to every one who wants lambast rednecks. I will personally join a crusade to fight for justice for rednecks. But to you I am a man you should holla at because you did not take the time to comprehend my views.
So your "radical" thoughts brought you to the point where , you stick your gun out the window and start shooting.
Never asked a question . Then you feel offended if I call you a coward.
Think brother Redneck, the times for that 19th century behavior died a long time ago.
We now debate with with common sense.
Yeah, saying my country is no different from Aparthied South Afrca is quite the debate. As I said, you are just one more of the humanoid debri leftist that pollutes this site. Unfortunately, you have even more verbal diarrhea than the rest.
Why is it those with THE LEAST RIGHT TO BE are the most egotistical. The most uppity.
Major compensating, and painfully obvious.
Go fuck yourself you snide, smarmy, self-important elitist.
What the hell are you. A super alien?
What do you think segregation was ? Apartheid In the USA.
Why do you think TEACHERS lambast the Bush Admin. education policy....
What the hell do you think they are hollering about. It is the fucking QUALITY of the frigging program.
Apartheid and segregation was NOT just a racial discrimination but social and class discrimination.
Have you ever heard the man who is responsible for developing the progam, explain it? He is always on CNN , during the counting of coverage. I cannot remember his name.
What am I egotistical about. Because I was not born of your heritage , I am uppity? What are you reading tea leaves?
Read what I am writing, not who you think I am.
Yes I may say things to alarm you, but that 's in responset to yelping. I am trying to stimulate your mind , see if there are any truth in my words.
Try and ask a searching question. I am not trying to belittle you or your circumstance. We just having a debate.
Did'nt you see the debates, after two hours of heavy pounding the candidates still shook hands, because exchange of ideas don't have to be violent. How about we share a cold one? I like Guinness.
I am trying to stimulate your mind
This in the same post where you claim to not be egotistical? That is the best laugh I've had all night!
BTW I do not think America is perfect. There are some serious noticable flaws. For one, you can't find good dwarf tossing anywhere. And some busybody is always stopping us from putting gimps to good use!
Bro. you amused me.
Since when is an exchange of ideas , not a stimulation of thoughts and the mind.
I talk and chat with people, from different countries, all the time. Women always say the darnest things , while seeking to tease my mind . I never accuse them of being egotistical.
I have been doing it with my close friends I have known for years, yet I express a few sentences and you accuse me of "partying with my ego".
All I can say , Man, Radical do not feel insecure, just defend your beliefs. If you don't know something just say so or ask a question.
We can't all be exposed to the same info or experiences. As they say on the streets , "you is you".
A little advice in the future , Radical, do not deal, in discussions , with the personalities of the other person, just the issues raised. You either agree or disagree.... but be prepared to defend your choice.
By the way , what is a gimp?
"But the education budget , when investigated , I will bet my last dollar, would have found to be unevenly distributed between the super rich , upper level middle class and those at the lower social levels."
Go ahead and investigate, I have. Be sure you look at the GOA Congressional investigations. You're clueless because you haven't really investigated anything. You presume you know what's best even though reality is completely different.
You completely ignore history. The more power and control a populace gives the government the more liberty and money they lose. What in the world makes you think even more government control and intervention will work when what we've got already is such a spectacular failure?
Can you provide evidence of anything?
darwin I'm surprised. You asked a question then you provide the answer. Or rather you accuse me of not knowing because you have some information, and you did not wait for a response.
I presume to know what's wrong. I have a few suggestions to correct the imbalance in providing America to every creed , race and class. Please do not misquote me.
The power you refer where a govt has obsolete power and can abuse that power, are not given but are taken by the minority ruling classes through their imposed govt. Normally that's called fascism.
A democratic govt that's chosen or elected , adopts a shared political philosophy that allows the peoples' participation as our constitution dictates, has save guards against the govt ever achieving absolute power to abuse.
But Bro. Darwin, you remember that the Bush /Cheney attempted to dismember our constitution with intentions to create an opportunity for absolete power and abuses. You do remember that?
So making the Govt a better facilitator for the majority of Americans has to be the goal of every democratic candidate running for President.
If they don't then that Govt will be facilitator for the rich minority as the BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN FOR 8 LONG YEARS.
It is a big lie of Republicans and conservatives that they are about "small govt". But the truth is they spend more govt money than any "liberal" govt. They expect and get more of the budget delivered to the minority and their projects, either thru grants or budgets or other means legal and illegal at their disposal.
Then the rich gets richer thru abuse of or mishandling of the Govt budget. While the poor gets poorer because the funds to provide social benefits went upstairs.
A prime example Mr Darwin, man with the information, this Bush administration soaked up the money to the upper 10 per centers, so much so that that my kid's school Principal calls every month, to apologise for not being able to continue another an academic program because funds HAVE NOT BE ALLOCATED TO THE BUDGET.
This as you might expect is not a upper class private school.
So have your documents , but i employ you to read it carefully, and seek truth from facts.
"I have a few suggestions to correct the imbalance in providing America to every creed , race and class."
Government has an obligation to protect it's citizens, protect their freedom, and provide equal OPPORTUNITY, not equal outcome. The outcome is UP TO YOU.
Some things in life are YOUR responsibility.
If you don't like your station in life ... then do something to change it. Don't expect the government, by way of taxpayer money to change it for you.
"The power you refer where a govt has obsolete power and can abuse that power, are not given but are taken by the minority ruling classes through their imposed govt. Normally that's called fascism."
Uh ... look. It's very apparent you haven't done any homework, and know little about the founding of this country, the men who founded it, why they founded it and what they wanted to achieve.
You've bought everything told you without doing the slighest research to back up your absurd theories.
The simple fact is some men and women of all types and philosophy are subject to greed and temptation. The more power you give these people the more corrupt the government becomes, and the harder it is to reel it back. You want to give government TOTAL CONTROL OVER YOUR LIFE. I don't.
It is in the interest of the democrat party to keep people beholden on government. Can't you understand that? The less responsible you are, the less independent you are ... the more you rely on them for every aspect of your existence. Once they have you at a point where you can no longer function without them you will be at their mercy.
Bush has nothing to do with your school. Why don't you find out WHY there are no funds? Try asking your school board? They make all the financial decisions. Schools are bloated with money. Federal and State budgets combined exceed the military budget. That's over 500 billion damn dollars. Why don't you ask why your not getting results with all that taxpayer dough?
I suggest you start reading about the formation of this country and the intentions of the men who founded it. Here's a hint ... none of it was about providing you a lifestyle.
"Government has an obligation to protect it's citizens, protect their freedom, and provide equal OPPORTUNITY, not equal outcome. The outcome is UP TO YOU.".....
Where is there a discussion about 'outcome'.
Why bring it into the discussion? No one guarantees.OUTCOME..not even the best religion. Neither God or Jesus talks about outcome...what is the relevance?????
Darwin..Darwin..you are trying to fit something you heard somewhere, into the talk .. WE ARE discussing : in whose service OR INTEREST should the Government, as a facilitator , serve first , second and last.
I suspect that the history of America is written in a single book and you have that copy in your library.
The founding fathers were way smarter than you think, they perceived that the power of govt should be retained by the people. They and they alone can determine what powers that govt should have. The safe guards in the Constitution to ensure whatever govt the American majority chose, will do as the people say.
But in some other countries their founding fathers may not have allowed such provisions.
Germany before Hitler arrived , may not have had such safe guards and Hitler though elected, was still able to abuse that power and impose a fascist government in Germany.
That Mr. Darwin, was my reference, not that fascism occurred in the USA.
The point being that every country in the democratic world , has a government of the people , FOR THE PEOPLE.
What do you think "FOR THE PEOPLE" means. It means in simple terms that the govt facilitates social services in the interest of the people. Goddamnit ...that's simple. It does not mean , that the govt will take you to the toilet and wipe your ass after you are thru pooping. (LOL) jUST TO MAKE A POINT.
What crap you are talking. The Bush govt is on record as being the most corrupt ever. What additional power did the people, thru Congress, give George and Dick.
So this theory about govt corruption being the result of big govt is misinformation by Republican/conservatives to get access to Govt so they can squander the the treasury for the super rich.
"Greed and Temptation" .....EXXON was private company...Greed and Temptation almost destroyed it as an entity. Greed and temptation is everywhere in the church in the schools at the home. in the military, IN THE OIL INDUSTRY,etc...etc... but the people thru their democratically chosen govt has put mechanisms to protect against it and also to persecute offenders.
I can list countries that has regulations against abuse of power and the administration is still rampant with corruption. The jails all the world are filled with corrupt officials and their govt did not become bigger.
So your small Govt will administer less control so when a natural diasater occurs it would be each man or woman for himaself the results? chaos and unfettered suffering for families....No problem small govts do take care of the people , they should independent and prepare for the worst.
Under your "get it for yourself" administration...9/11 victims should have "fended for themselves" ..or "If you they wanted capture Osama, they should go get him themselves selves , this is small govt.
And when the elderly who has spent forty years giving you as a govt service and taxes if thewhen get sick without having an insurance ..they should die on the street, on there way to help.
which they should expect..because YOU run a small govt and have a govt paid , good personal insurance ....Yes man.....What you want is a Monarchist Govt...Something Thomas Jefferson took every opportunity to safe guard us doing back to.
"....Bush has nothing to do with your school. Why don't you find out WHY there are no funds? Try asking your school board? They make all the financial decisions. Schools are bloated with money. Federal and State budgets combined exceed the military budget. That's over 500 billion damn dollars. Why don't you ask why your not getting results with all that taxpayer dough?"....
I suppose you really pay attention. Mr. Darwin
Do you know a place called China. Well, Bush over borrowed money on our future earnings as a people and country
. If he had to go to such lengths.. to get finance ....simple common sense will tell you that internally revenue will have to be diverted from school programs, and other socual services programs. Is'nt that correct?
Katrina victims were left to fend for themselves, and the response was slow because our Country does not have a limitless budget .....If the bulk of the budget is shifted around to make adjustments for the "War of a Mad Man".
Then you can deduce why the principal of my kids school would get a call from the school board,... who themselves got a call from State officials,.... who also got a call from the Federal Officials,.... who themselves got a call from the White House to make the original adjustment to leave out my kids school, by making adjustment to spend the money somewher else.
THAT'S THE WAY GOVT LINE OF AUTHORITY WORKS. THE SHIT BEGINS TO DROP FROM UPSTAIRS.
"they perceived that the power of govt should be retained by the people. They and they alone can determine what powers that govt should have."
You haven't been keeping up have you? We are losing our liberties and freedom precisely because we have government that doesn't listen to the people. We have little say any longer. I find it incomprehensible that you want to give government even more power.
"What do you think "FOR THE PEOPLE" means. It means in simple terms that the govt facilitates social services in the interest of the people."
WTF?? For The People???
Why don't you try WE THE PEOPLE ... no wonder you're so confused.
"WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
"The Bush govt is on record as being the most corrupt ever."
Proof and links please.
"So your small Govt will administer less control so when a natural diasater occurs it would be each man or woman for himaself the results?"
Uh ... if your local and State governemnt can't organize rescue and assistance without the federal government they're incompetent. The federal government is not a response agency.
"Do you know a place called China. Well, Bush over borrowed money on our future earnings as a people and country
. If he had to go to such lengths.. to get finance ....simple common sense will tell you that internally revenue will have to be diverted from school programs, and other socual services programs. Is'nt that correct?"
Hey Brainiac ... Google the history of our national debt. We've been in debt almost since the founding of the country. BTW, Japan has a bigger share of our debt than China.
DO YOUR DAMN HOMEWORK.
"Katrina victims were left to fend for themselves, and the response was slow because our Country does not have a limitless budget ...."
Initial response IS A FUNCTION OF LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT. Got it? It was the state and locals that screwed everything up.
Where the hell is your higher brain function?
"THAT'S THE WAY GOVT LINE OF AUTHORITY WORKS. THE SHIT BEGINS TO DROP FROM UPSTAIRS."
God you're dense. Look buddy, if you don't take the time to research and look up information instead of drinking the democrat kool-aid ... then I can't help you.
Forget it, Darwin. This one is beyond help. He/she/it is so emersed into the koolaid that no amount of facts and logic will make a dent into it's pre-existing dogma.
Good try though! I love it when you wax eloquent!
All "feelings" and emotion. No common sense
You're coming perilously close to trademark infringement, my friend!
all am adding is for the Government become an efficient facilitator for our social needs and services.
Sounds great! If you could just point out that spot in the Constitution that says the federal government's job is to be "an efficient facilitator for our social needs and services", that'd be golden.
Try reading the Constitution sometime, dude. The roles of the federal government are limited, and the roles of the states are as big and bloated (like CA) or small and anemic (like NH) as they want them to be.
"when your lazy ass don't work , the landlord or mortgage company will send you to the salvation army to find a bed."
This part is priceless!
This idiot is trying to push the idea of big-nanny government as "facilitator of social needs and services", yet he wants The Salvation Army to take care of me.
Hey brain dead, liberal douche bag, Asslicar, the Salvation Army is a PRIVATE CHARITY!
What a dumbfuck!
Fuck yourself Asslicar.
Well Henry, If in your world you do work you do not . But that is because you are lazy and feel the govt owes you something. But if you work the social services are for us all. If you are a veteran we would take care of you as mother would.
But to insult you with logic causes you to get irritated and lose your balance.
for your information Salvation Army is charity. That's when the social services of your State or Federal support finds you are not only idiotic , to qualify for job that's available but your are aggressive .
When you don't understand a trend of thought, rather than search like most humans for clarity, you to begin a loud tirade of cussing and obscene language. Most govt social services support system will kick you out so its only the Salvation will obligated to help. Henry.
One more point get a copy of the GREAT AMERICAN CONSTITUTION and if you don't see the relevant chapter that gives the Govt of the people the responsibility to take of their social needs.
Then send me a note, accusing me of misinterpreting our guiding principles and making Thomas Jefferson. But if you can't read and comprehend the text, don't be embarrased to say so. I will help you , you wont have to ask twice> Henry.
"If you are a veteran we would take care of you as mother would."
I am a veteran and I can take care of myself. Help should be reserved for those vets who need help.
"One more point get a copy of the GREAT AMERICAN CONSTITUTION and if you don't see the relevant chapter that gives the Govt of the people the responsibility to take of their social needs."
YOU show us where in the US Constitution it say the government should provide for the social needs of citizens.
Oh God ... why do I bother?
I think we can gauge the credibility of asslikar (very appropriate as you'll see) by merely visiting his blog.
*NOT WORK SAFE AT ALL!*
"for your information Salvation Army is charity. That's when the social services of your State or Federal support finds you are not only idiotic , to qualify for job that's available but your are aggressive ."
WTF?
Henry ... got any clues?
RR ... maybe that's the "service" Amilcar wants the government to pay for.
Nice catch.
DARWIN FLIES IN THE FACE
Bro. Darwin,
I am beginning to try an imagine, where I have met you before. Maybe under a tree in a meadow twanging your guitar, writng songs about your reality.
I am sure it was you picking verses from a text and adding it to your songs.
Because you remind of people like Pastors who pick verses from the Bible to justify their sunday morning sermon. Because it is the Pastor no one dare say to him ..."what the hell was that". My grandmother used to say "sense was made before books".
What she really meant to say was, don't try to pull that line from a book to justify your bullshit.
Special notes to JONATHAN...WITNESS...MY BRO. RADICAL REDNECK.... I have no idea what you are contributing to the discussion.
I feel as if I am in a deep, deep canyon, somewhere in Colodaro, where the folks down there have not seen the sunshine for a hundred years.
I don't know where to start to tell you folks the world has gone thru so many changes since last you saw the sun set.
I tried to wax eloquent so something will resonate or flip a switch to bring you all back to reality. But that ain't working with you boys...
This discussion..reminds me of home...you see..Whenever one of my brothers would come home after spending time out , acclaiming to have found the woman of his dreams after a few good rounds of sex.
My father rather than break his son's heart with the real story, he only laugh and say....'Son what they gave you to rub you ate"...
That is how crazy you guys sound analysising our world. To explain :
Darwin responds to my statement of ' President Bush overborrowing, from China, our countries future earnings', he says, the USA has always borrowed money or was always in out of control debt. How can I answer such a devastatingly out of touch response?
To honestly answer that, I may have to begin with .. A.for Apple....B for Bat.. C for cat. Well it was nice hanging with you peeps....My next Bud is you'all honor.
P. S..... However I want to apologise to everyone.. I recogniseD after the fact, that I had some typo ERRORS in my earlier comments. But I know that nevertheless you followed the trend of the sentences in question. Sorry about that.
"DARWIN FLIES IN THE FACE"
Is that my new Indian name? I thought I was Carry Big Firestick.
"I tried to wax eloquent so something will resonate"
Try harder ... nothing resonating here, or there.
I may drill for Oil "there" in the land Non resonates. It is way too dry and parch. I am looking for a "there" where some thing can grow, and make us proud. I was at the wrong place, so sad.
Anyway I don't think "Carry Big Firestick" fits darwin. I envisage "Stuck in BigMud" to be more apt.
I agree with Bush. I mean, only a few years ago the world appeased a leader with a mighty war machine that was going to take out a sovereign nation whether the world liked it or not, and what was the result? Hundreds of thousands dead, endless war, occupation without end, millions of refugees, a crippled and helpless country, trillions of dollars wasted etc.
And what was the name of that leader? Oh, that's right – George W. Bush.
That how Dubya knows appeasement doesn't work – in didn't work on him.
Cheers
Elroy
YOU show us where in the US Constitution it say the government should provide for the social needs of citizens.
I thought I said the same thing, but judging by dude's "non-response response", I guess my invitation wasn't clear. Your invitation is as clear as it gets, Darwin.
I tried to wax eloquent
You failed, miserably. You may be waxing something, but it damned sure isn't "eloquent"!
"Anyway I don't think "Carry Big Firestick" fits darwin. I envisage "Stuck in BigMud" to be more apt."
No mudkitty jokes please. The picture in my head is bad enough.
"You may be waxing something"
After viewing Amilcar's other blog ... I know for sure he's been waxing something.
I see that there is still darkness in this here part of the world. I guess you guys are supporters of GWB. The 'C' student who became President and never improved on his grades.
Is this a case of "birds" of a feather hanging out with spaced out minds together.
Because where is the American smarts from these boys on the trail, even the veteran Jonathan is just making grunts and inaudibles.
Give us boys something, without cuss words and stale insults, to talk positively about.
Come on darwin, get your boys tuned up , the world is watching.
Make some intersting conversation, Talk about John McCain, who Obama is caliing, lame McCain and McCrazy. Are you going to defend and stand up for 'yuh boy' Mc Lame.
"Are you going to defend and stand up for 'yuh boy' Mc Lame."
No, McCain can defend and stand up for himself. After being beaten for five years by the North Vietnamese, he knows how to handle himself.
Obama is not who he pretends to be and his strings are pulled by powerful men behind the scenes. I don't expect you to understand, since all you seem to care about is the government taking care of you.
Vote for who you wish. Just remember the "change" you get will not be what you thought you were getting.
I really can't say much more because your understanding of events in today's world is limited.
I really can't say much more because your understanding of events in today's world is limited.
To say the least!
I think you are scared to express your views because you know it's lame.
Neither you or Jonathan know my understanding of today's world events. Whaat ! kind of McLame excuse is that?
You belong to a sect, and only the "anointed" can hear the wisdom of the truth.
Get real guys everybody belongs to a class in this ...America... and they see the world as it effects them and those in their economic circle.
This is the information age. Everyone has an opinion. There is only place for it to be tested ...that is in social activities with other people.
If your view is good or in keeping with the objective world I will applaud. you..but if it is rancid, stale with ancient analysis , do not expect much sympathy.
Just to comment on "yuh boy" McLame,it does'nt matter if has the Kingpin backing him or a school child , John is a Republican / Conservative who chose to accept that the political outlook that serves the Upper class of society, at the detriment of all else (others)
If that is your choice as well , you are going to hell in a ham basket . I will send you and Jonathan , O'Henry and Radical Redneck..on the same ride.
So give up... or be prepared to be called..yella belly.
'Obama is not who he pretends to be and his strings are pulled by powerful men behind the scenes. I don't expect you to understand, since all you seem to care about is the government taking care of you.'
In the end, the main difference between Republicans and Democrats is that the former have all undergone a ironyectomy.
Cheers
Elroy
I will send you and Jonathan , O'Henry and Radical Redneck..on the same ride.
I hope it's not like the "ride" I gave your old lady last night. No thanks, pal!
you are going to hell in a ham basket .
It's "handbasket", Merriam-Webster.
So give up... or be prepared to be called..yella belly.
Gasp! Oh no! Not "yella belly"! Please, anything but "yella belly"!
I promise I'll sell all of my belongings and worship at the altar of the Church of the United Nations, or I'll learn the French national anthem, or I'll buy a case of Molson or Moosehead...just PLEASE don't call me "yella belly"! I don't know HOW I'd get by in my daily life to know that YOU of supreme importance in my life called me "yella belly"!
Dumbass.
Lily livered...?
Jonathan to hell with webster...'Labor' is spelt in the USA This is how 'labour' is spelt around world.
It is spelt Labour in the English Dictionary which one is correct. Both are correct.So Mr . " Know-nothing", dumbass...hole.
Jonathan.
A ham basket is also used ...so hand or ham basket ...your ass will be still in it.
You seem to have Ass..holeness to sell. But I ain't buying.
We are talking politics with playful banter. Are you walking backwards, using your ass..hole as your eye. That may explain, why you did not see the joke in the statement.
Just for talking about my old Lady and having sex , which has to be sickening sex ..at best.yuh know ..sex without romancing ..and interesting talk....which you don't seem have to the potential to maintain her interest .
However it appears as if you did not know that you were having a ride, with your female pardner..thinking it was 'My old lady"..get a grip...'Trip' Jonathan. You can't handle my "bucking horse" speed and desire.
Finally you are an Asshole with a Masters degree.
So stay out of the discussion with darwin, Radical Redneck and O' Henry and myself.
Judging by the number of times you said ass and asshole above, and the content of your blog, it seems assholes play a large role with you.
RR, dude seems pretty obsessed with my ass and asshole. Creepy, man, just creepy.
Amilcar ... take some time, think about capitalsim ... how it works and stuff. Then think about socialism, what you want. Think about what happens to capitalsim when the never ending thirst for money of socialism takes hold.
Think about incentive, innovation and personal responsibilty. Think about what happens to those things when socialism takes hold.
One more thing ... you don't understand that socialism creates two very, very distinct classes. Those who have power and control, and those who don't.
Capitalism provides anyone a chance to move in any direction. With socialism, the only direction is nowhere.
Please don't amswer until you understand what I'm talking baout.
"Are you walking backwards, using your ass..hole as your eye."
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RR, dude seems pretty obsessed with my ass and asshole. Creepy, man, just creepy
And if you go to his blog that I linked above, you'll see that that is the case literally!
Bro darwin did I suggest capitalism or socialism ?
You go off the deep end, because you read me talking about, the US economy over the last 8 years not servicing the lower income folks well?.
The Bush admin. being a govt of the wealthy, turned the beautiful economy of the 90's into an unrecognizable mess.
That's my point. Republicans history with the US economy has been disastrous, a long line of US Presidents belonging to the Republican Party that has had ' sex with US people and their economy'. Leaving it for another man to 'father' and make it successfully progressive for everyone
So stay cool, my brother, every opposition to Republican leadership is not a "jump and wave" for socialism.
My advise to you....turn off Radio or change the station from Rush Limbaugh.
I see you loved my imaginative description of how Jonathan might have seen and read my comments..In case you forgot it...
"Are you walking backwards, using your ass..hole as your eye."
To Radical Redneck. Sir,..I was not talking to or about you.... Come on..pay attention, get with the program.
I was referring to Jonathan, he had to get the slap down... for being brutish and for introducing and attempting to undermine and insult,my love one into the political conservation.
So RR your Ass is safe, I'm not interested.
RADICAL
You read my blog and found it creepy?
I hope you had the right URL. Because if you found it "creepy" , I will have to reconsider my assessment of your ability to comprehend.
So I'm giving you one more chance..go to : http://oheagleeye.blogspot.com .
You can criticize , complain , or ask questions if you need clarification.
But you have to make sense. Or else........I will be disapponted....and may have to make arrangements for you to ride in the HAMBASKET.....heh..heh..lol
"So RR your Ass is safe, I'm not interested."
Jonathan ... apparently your ass is still in danger. Guard it carefully.
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