This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
Wow, that's cool! Community is very important and I agree that it's a great part of America. It's important to pick people up when they need it. That's why I do a lot of volunteer work for nonprofits that work locally and internationally. For those of you who haven't done volunteer work, I highly recommend it if you have the time.
It Takes A Villiage?
Thats how much we care for others and frankly if they ever catch the scum who robbed him they should have both their arms cut off then hang them
Hmm, and the government didn't need to get involved to get this kid his money back. What a surprise.
I'm surprised the kid wasn't arrested for not getting a business license and not paying taxes. Wait until the Social Security Administration gets a hold of him. They want their 12.5%
Sandpiper,
"Thats how much we care for others and frankly if they ever catch the scum who robbed him they should have both their arms cut off then hang them"
Are you sure you're opposed to Islamic law? Yikes!
Anyone who would rob a kid are lower then a snake in a wagon rut lower then pond scum
Jenn, I have to admit that parrot joke was pretty funny "What did the turkey do?" ROFLMAO
Jenn can tell humorous jokes, Phil can tell humorous jokes too.
Jose and Carlos are panhandling at the freeway offramp.
Jose drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage free house and has a lot of
money to spend.
Carlos only brings in 2 to 3 dollars a day.
Carlos asks Jose how he can bring home a suitcase full of $10 bills
every day.
Jose says, “Look at your sign.” It reads: “I have no work, a wife & 6
kids to support”
Carlos looks at Jose’s sign.
It reads: “I only need another $10.00 to move back to Mexico “
I heard about this story the other day and thought it was horrible! It's nice to see the community come together to show their support for this kid and I'm glad they caught the rat-fink who robbed him!
It's wonderful to hear something uplifting for a change, Jenn. Thank you! With all the murder and mayhem that goes on in the world, and with none of the MSM ever - or at least rarely ever - reporting good news, it's really easy to become cynical about the human condition. This is what real America is about and I appreciate the post more than you can imagine.
Hi Jenn,
Has anyone noticed that not one of the far leftist libs haven't even commented on this article yet, I guess that it's too American for them. 
Phil,
I'm pretty sure you view me as a "far leftist lib" and I made the first comment.
Jay,
You are not far leftist so far that I have noticed, I only am assessing from what I have seen so far.
Phil,
Quotes from you to me:
"My opinion is not just an opinion it's based on facts unlike your's is based on your leftists propaganda."
"I tell you you libturds make me so fucken pissed by your "Cut & Run" Bull shit that I get way ahead of myself."
"When you present yourself in such a manner as to make that some big thing you clearly are putting your self into the category of being a far leftist."
What exactly do you think I am then? I am certainly more left leaning than most people on here, but I'm definitely not a far leftist. Most left leaning people aren't.
I'm not trying to start a fight Phil. I'm just pointing out the contradictions in your statements.
Either way, most people (on the left and the right) are peace loving and in full support of community.
Jay,
You're new here, when one has been used to dealing with the far leftists, you kind of come along and automatically get put into that category because most of us here are so used to dealing with the likes of Orion plus others that are on the Kossack side of far to the left that maybe you haven't noticed.
That was nice nice of you Phil. Jay he's right. Certain people come here, and because I loathe liberals and politically correct BS (PCBS), assume everyone here is a Bush worshiping simpleton.
I had a lovely chat with a girl at the dog park today who was reading one of Obama's books. She looked just like "Obama Girl". I asked if she was. She had no idea what I was talking about, but by the time I was done with her, she seemed to have lost interest in his book. It was lovely.
See we can all get along.
Jenn,
"I loathe liberals"
Yes, we can all get along. But, I fail to see how just generally loathing liberals is getting along. I also fail to see how "automatically putting me in the category of far leftist" just because I don't agree with everything said on here is getting along.
I am certainly not a conservative. I quite often disagree with conservatives, but I certainly don't loathe them. That's silly. That wouldn't make me much different than a crazy fundamentalist religious person.
I love all my brothers and sisters from all walks of life. I accept their views and beliefs with love and compassion. That's really the only way I see that people will truly get along.
Thank you Jenn, I try to be, you know me how the really far leftists get on my nerves, like that one dude who wrote you that email that time, I guess that he had me rankled to no ends, I guess in some ways I was more mad at him for being nasty to you.
I am glad that you had a nice day and lovely chat with that girl, you sure do deserve to have nice days.
Jay,
May I make a suggestion, visit these two sites and tell me how loving they are.
Go to the DailyKos and Huffington post and tell me how lovingly they are there ok then come back here and let us all know how you found that to be.
Phil,
I can understand why a person who thinks like you would disagree with a lot of what is on those sites. I don't mean that in a desrespectful way either. I agree with some things on them. Sometimes I disagree. However, I don't believe that those sites represent the far left. We may have different definitions of what this is, so please let me explain.
To me, the far left is really no different than the far right. It all boils down to totalitarianism and absolute control by any means necessary. Stalinism would be an example of communism being twisted to to achieve absolute control. Nazism is socialism taken way beyond extreme measures to control people. As for the far right, I believe Islamofacism and any violent religious fundamentalism would fall into this category.
To me, it doesn't really matter whether it's communism, capitalism, socialism, conservatism, liberalism, whateverism, if the people in charge of said system use violence to scare people into adhering to their ways, it's extremism. There is no place for this in any form, be it far left or far right.
So, I sincerely hope you don't think I'm a far leftist. I'm certainly more liberal than most people on here, but I don't think that's a bad thing. One of my oldest and closest friends considers himself a conservative and that's certainly not a bad thing either. All it means is that we disagree sometimes.
What far right? Fred Phelps is a libtard. The only real "far" anything is the left. Period.
Jenn,
"What far right? Fred Phelps is a libtard. The only real "far" anything is the left. Period."
This is not at all true. Who said anything about Fred Phelps? Good lord you are close minded.
There's hope for you yet though. Let go of your anger and hatred and your fear of difference. Then you will find peace through love and compassion.
Jay,
You criticize Jenn for the spec in her eye but don't see the log in your own?
Jenn is correct Jay, trouble is, is that you don't see it, but that's ok Jay we are still hoping that you will some day.
Phil,
She's not correct. There is absolutely nothing liberal about Fred Phelps. There is nothing conservative about him either. To me, a liberal is someone left of center and a conservative is someone right of center. People like Fred Phelps take traditionally conservative ideas and push them so far to the extreme that they are no longer anything but hatred.
Jenn is also incorrect when she says "the only real 'far' anything is left". This is a ridiculous and pointless argument. It doesn't matter whether someone is far left or far right. It all comes down to one thing, extremism.
Jay,
Jenn is correct but then again for some one like your self who doesn't see that Daily Kos isn't and doesn't see that Huffington post isn't I can understand your dilema because you have not the moral founding to understand the difference anymore. When you take that stance you Jay are going to be the one who looks extremist.
Phil,
Come on. Give me a break. All I said was there are some things said on there that I agree with. For example, "I want to be environmentally friendly" was said by one poster. Yeah, that's pretty radical, far left propaganda. Geez Phil! You have to be smarter than that. Don't give this "moral founding" nonsense. You don't know anything about me and how I live my life. I don't presume to know anything about your moral founding. Be reasonable man! I am not, nor am I anything close to, an extremist. To suggest so is unbelievably foolish.
By the way, Jenn is very much incorrect and anyone who has studied basic world history knows it.
(as Leonard McCoy)
Dammit, Phil! I'm left of center, not an extremist!
Jay,
By the way, Jenn is very much incorrect and anyone who has studied basic world history knows it.
It's getting late and I'm going to go to bed, you can stay up if you wish, but allow me to warn you that Jenn has a lot of friends here on her site and don't be startled when a lot of them Jump all over your case on that.
Phil,
That's fine. I know I'm right about this. It's just basic history. Extremism is extremism.
G'night! 
Yes, I think this story captures one of the great things about our society. Yes, Phil, it does take a village.
Wait, before you light up the flame thrower, I'm not agreeing with Shrillary. Shrillary wants to legislate the village. That's wrong; the antitheses of freedom. We should choose freely to act together as a "village", not be forced to do so by some arbitrary, feel-good legislation.
Jay,
There is absolutely nothing liberal about Fred Phelps
Really then you better tell that to Fred Phelps because they all vote Liberal each election, it has been proven that they are Liberal.
To me, a liberal is someone left of center
Yea well it depends on how far left of center, that's all relative when you use those terms like that, and in such a statement you are generalizing. So don't just be saying that Jenn is generalizing because I have seen you do the very same thing that you have accused Jenn of doing.
People like Fred Phelps take traditionally conservative ideas and push them so far to the extreme that they are no longer anything but hatred.
Again you don't know what you're talking about because as I have stated above Fred Phelps clan is Liberal.
Jenn is also incorrect when she says "the only real 'far' anything is left".
No Jenn is correct because that is all we see that has been left is all that hate coming from the left.
Come on. Give me a break. All I said was there are some things said on there that I agree with. For example, "I want to be environmentally friendly" was said by one poster.
Come on read the article not just the commenter's. I have seen such vile hate from the far left like Kill all the troops and stuff like that all you have to do to see this is look at one of Jenn's leftist commenter's who used to comment here many times before just by clicking on Source 1 and Source 2 links below.
(Source 1)
(Source 2)
Henry,
Wait, before you light up the flame thrower
LOL I wouldn't do that to you my friend.
I'm not agreeing with Shrillary
I knew that you wouldn't I don't either.
Shrillary wants to legislate the village. That's wrong; the antitheses of freedom.
That is what is wrong with the whole Left is that they want to legislate such stuff.
We should choose freely to act together as a "village", not be forced to do so by some arbitrary, feel-good legislation.
That is absolutely correct Henry. You got it. Scored 100%
Phil,
Why are you even arguing this stuff? You could not be more wrong. Read a history book man. Extreme right is totalitarianism and extreme left is also totalitarianism. Mao is an example of extreme left and Mussolini was an example of extreme right. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? It all amounts to extremism and totalitarianism.
As for those links, those would be examples of things I disagree with from the left. I'm pretty sure I was clear on that before. This isn't rocket science, Phil. But, if you want to get into it, I fail to see how this comment from you directed at me isn't extreme and hateful:
"the minute you leftists start hurting the United States ability to accomplish that goal in protecting the citizens of the United States and it's allies you then become a Traitor of which all Traitors to the United States should be dealt with by Hanging."
So, you believe that people who disagree with you should be hanged? I'm not hurting the U.S. by disagreeing with you. I don't believe you are hurting the U.S. That's ridiculous! We just disagree on some issues. That's it! To execute someone for this is nothing more than extremism.
Phil,
As for Fred Phelps, his little band of misfits are neither liberal nor conservative. Just because someone votes liberal does not mean that they represent what it's supposed to be. Fred Phelps represents hate. Nothing more.
Show of hands, how many people loathe it when Libtards come here and tell us to "read". Newsflash Jay, I probably read more books before I was 10 than you have in your lifetime.
And it's pretty cute how you try to shoo off your litle Phelps as being a nothing. He's all yours as are the sicko's buring soldiers in effigy, spitting on soldiers and throwing pies at conservative speakers. They hate freedom of speech when it's not their speech. Helloooooo "fairness doctrine" anyone?
Jenn,
"Newsflash Jay, I probably read more books before I was 10 than you have in your lifetime."
You have absolutely nothing to base that on. This is an asinine argument with absolutely no merit. Grow up please.
If you don't understand that extremism exists on the left and the right, you're either in denial or you don't understand history. This is a simple fact.
"And it's pretty cute how you try to shoo off your litle Phelps as being a nothing. He's all yours as are the sicko's buring soldiers in effigy, spitting on soldiers and throwing pies at conservative speakers. They hate freedom of speech when it's not their speech. Helloooooo "fairness doctrine" anyone?"
No, those people have nothing to do with my beliefs. Nothing.
I've been here talking about love and compassion for days and you're trying to tell me that I'm on the same level as these hate mongers. That is a ridiculous and childish attempt at dividing the country into two types of people, liberals (troop hating and trying to destroy America) and conservatives (troop loving and can do no wrong). This is not the case. The country is made up of millions of people with all sorts of different view points on every issue.
Please stop trying to put me into a group of people who hate. I've given you no reason to.
Love and compassion of all people will lead us to peace.
"Jenn is very much incorrect and anyone who has studied basic world history knows it."
(I can hear you stamping your feet!)
You have absolutely nothing to base that on. This is an asinine argument with absolutely no merit. Grow up please.
Jenn,
I'm actually quite calm. I know you're trying to make me angry because, as your profile says, that is one of your favorite activities. It won't happen. By repeating what I said to you, you only make yourself look childish.
I, other than yourself, have something to back up my point. You deny that there is extremism on both the left and the right. You could not be more wrong. Just read a history book and you will see this. I really don't understand why you're arguing this fact.
It's not too late Jenn. You can let go of your anger and find peace through love and compassion of all people.
I've never denied that there is extremism on both sides. LOL. Now I know you're taking the piss. Are you a stand up comedienne?
Jenn,
"I've never denied that there is extremism on both sides."
Yes, you did.
Quote from you on this thread on 7/29/07 8:40pm:
"The only real "far" anything is the left. Period."
If this doesn't suggest you believe there is only extremism on the left, I don't know what does.
"Are you a stand up comedienne?"
It's been suggested I should be at times.
I don't judge you for your error, Jenn, but I can't let you get away with something as silly as that.
All right touche' there are some whack jobs on the right as well and they can kiss my grits.
Problem is, I am considered extremely far right.. yet here you are blathering away your nonsensical ramblings on my blog, unedited.
Wow, I AM evil!
Jenn,
I don't consider you far right at all. And I don't think you're evil. Do you want me to think that? I suppose if you went around killing innocent people who disagreed with you, I would. But, I don't think you do that, so you're certainly not far right.
You're definitely right wing, but I respect that. I may often disagree with you, but I will always respect your conviction. You convey your views with a no B.S. passion and I respect that very much.
Just because I often disagree with you, doesn't mean I think you're far right or evil.
This is part of what I'm talking about with love and compassion.
So really do you have love and compassion for say....Osama Bin Bollocks?
chirp..chirp go the crickets.
Jenn,
"So really do you have love and compassion for say....Osama Bin Bollocks?"
No, of course not. I have love and compassion for the victims of war and hate. These include all the people murdered, all soldiers killed, all civilian casualties and all the innocent people who are forced into submission by fear. Another example of that last one would be the German people during World War II. Of course they should stand up and fight, but it's not that easy. I wish they would, but I also understand why they don't. Some German people stood up to the Nazi's during World War II and were executed for treason. One example would be Sophie Scholl and The White Rose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sop...i/
Sophie_Scholl
The people under that power of Hamas are now dealing with this same type of control by fear. I know Hamas was voted in, but remember, so was Hitler.
And on that vein was I supposed to have any compassion for those who picked up guns and followed him. Fuck that. If Bush told me tomorrow to pick up a gun and start mowing down all my neighbors with red hair I'd tell him to get stuffed.
Stop feeding the victim mentality, you aren't helping them Jesse/Al.
Jenn,
"And on that vein was I supposed to have any compassion for those who picked up guns and followed him."
No. Where are you getting this? That's precisely the opposite of what I said.
"If Bush told me tomorrow to pick up a gun and start mowing down all my neighbors with red hair I'd tell him to get stuffed."
If he said it with a gun to your head and you still say you'd tell him to get stuffed, you're either in denial or you're a braver person than most. However, this is very easy to say when you've never been in anything close to the situation these people are in.
I don't understand why it's so difficult for you to put things into perspective. Put yourself in someone else's shoes, stop being so close minded and learn to show some compassion to those that need it. Please.
"However, this is very easy to say when you've never been in anything close to the situation these people are in."
This situation has been going on for centuries. It's time to end it. I guess if they won't, we will.
Once again how do you know what I've been through. I am absolutely sure you have a nice little opinion of what you think I am and who I am but judging from your comments, you've no clue.
You know not where I've been. You need to stop assuming and being so closed minded. Open your mind.
Jenn,
So, you have been in a situation in which political leaders have attempted to force you to adhere to their beliefs through threats of violence? If so, I apologize.
We're already in a situation where people are intimidated into staying silent.
As far as violence goes ... just how do you think muslims get their way in Europe? Remember the Danish cartoon flap? How about Theo Van Gogh? That's just scratching the surface of the threats made over there.
CAIR uses the opposite tactic here by claiming that they need "special rights" or else they'll suffer the "backlash" that they've been waiting six fucking years for.
Maybe we should give it to them so they don't have to wait any longer.
Wouldn't it be great to see Americans rise up in force and tell the politicians to fuck off and the muzzies to get the hell out? Yes it would.
Ever notice the spokespeople CAIR uses? They're caucasian. Simple, yet disingenuous tactic designed to disarm people. Very crafty those wahhabiists. That's why they need to go.
No love and peace here.
I wonder what would happen if we took to the streets with signs that read "behead all muslims" or "muslims your 9-11 is coming". If they can march in the US with those signs ... why can't we?
It's catchy ... "Behead all muslims".
Darwin,
"Wouldn't it be great to see Americans rise up in force and tell the politicians to fuck off and the muzzies to get the hell out? Yes it would."
No, it wouldn't because that would turn the U.S. into a warzone. You would be alienating innocent people with your paranoia. Innocent people would die, Muslims and others. Do you ever say anything that isn't completely based on emotion?
"I wonder what would happen if we took to the streets with signs that read "behead all muslims" or "muslims your 9-11 is coming". If they can march in the US with those signs ... why can't we?"
I have seen people with signs like that. I don't think I've seen "behead all Muslims", but I've definitely seen nonsense like "Muslims get out", "Leave or die", etc, etc. I've also seen many signs directing hatred at other groups of people. Such as gays, Jews, Mexicans, whites, blacks, etc. So, go ahead and make your sign. Nobody is stopping you.
"It's catchy ... "Behead all muslims".
No, it isn't.
"Oh yeh, I'll tell you something
I think you'll understand
When I'll say that something
I wanna hold your hand
I wanna hold your hand
I wanna hold your hand"
That's catchy!
Peace Darwin. Love, compassion and understanding is what you need. It will lead you to peace.
Jesus, I just barfed all over my keyboard. I knew there was a reason I stopped being a hippy.
Jenn,
Hippy? Is love really that threatening?
Or perhaps you're referring to the song lyric. Is so, that song is nothing even close to being a hippy song.
By the way, I don't think Jesus really cares that you barfed on your keyboard.
Love and compassion for difference is not a dangerous thing.
You're right Jesus doesn't care he's been dead a couple of thousand years.
I can see it now ... "In the news today, the American people decided that love and peace is the best way to fight islamic terror. Within hours, hundreds of thousands of Americans have already been beheaded and a Saudi prince is flying over to assume the Presidency ... one American, known simply as "Jay" was heard gasping these last words immediately before his head fell off ... darwin was right, and I was wrong!!!!!"
Jenn,
"You're right Jesus doesn't care he's been dead a couple of thousand years."
HAHAHA...nice!
Darwin,
"the American people decided that love and peace is the best way to fight islamic terror."
I never said that. I've only said we should fight the actual extremists.
I never said that. I've only said we should fight the actual extremists.
I'm not sure exactly what plane you're existing on ... but just who do you think we're fighting? Half the job of the special ops guys in Afghanistan is to kill Taliban, the other half is to foster relationships with the tribes there. I have no idea where you get your info or ideas.
My whole point in this fucking endless loop is that MUSLIMS AREN"T DOING ENOUGH TO STOP THE VIOLENCE AND KILLING. They hardly do anything, and if they're in a western country, they just whine about "profiling" and want special fucking rights.
That is definitely not the way to endear yourself to PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING INTIMIDATED, TARGETED AND KILLED BY MEMBERS OF THE FUCKING MUSLIM RELIGION.
Can you get it through your head?
Darwin,
You said you want to behead all Muslims. As long as this is how you think, you will be an extremist who is just as bad as any Muslim extremist.
Let go of your anger, hate and irrational paranoia, Darwin and you will find peace.
"You said you want to behead all Muslims."
I give up. Since you apparently don't recognize that's a play on the signs muslims have carried in Britain and the US, there's no more reason to converse.
Darwin or anyone who cares to answer,
I mentioned this before, but you failed to answer me:
I have a close friend who is a PhD student at a university. A professor collegue of his, who happens to be Muslim, has endured jeers, having things thrown at her and having anti-Muslim graffiti spray-painted on her office door. This woman is just a literature professor trying to live her life and do her job. If these aren't acts of hate, I don't know what they are. Do you condone this type of behavior?
I realize that there are crazy people out there, but this kind of thing is unacceptable. Always.
Peace.
Darwin,
"Since you apparently don't recognize that's a play on the signs muslims have carried in Britain and the US"
Oh , I know what it was. But you fail to see that people who carry these signs do not, and never will, represent the majority of Muslims.
You are blinded by your irrational paranoia.
Please don't give up on me, Darwin. The more paranoid propaganda you write to me, the closer I become to being just like you.
Peace.
"A professor collegue of his, who happens to be Muslim, has endured jeers, having things thrown at her and having anti-Muslim graffiti spray-painted on her office door."
I don't believe it. The left rules academia and they drool thinking about situations as you described where they can pull out all their favorite words and charge their favorite crime.
More than likely some radical muslim professor is stirring the pot and lied.
You're a nut ... if not outright lying, then you embellish.
Fuck off.
"You are blinded by your irrational paranoia."
I see you do learn and adapt. After countless uses of the word hate, you decided to change up in hopes of having a neglible impact instead of none at all.
"Oh , I know what it was."
Then why did you write what you did? You're slipping.
Fuck off again.
Darwin,
Great defense! Assume I'm lying. Wow, your powers of reason are incredible.
I was actually mistaken. The professor isn't Muslim. She organized a Hijab day to promote tolerence and awareness on campus. It happened at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. My close friend, who was actually my best man, is studying for his PhD there.
http://www.thestar.com/News/arti.../article/
202275
"The left rules academia"
Yes, those on the left generally are better educated than those on the right. You said it, not me. However, well-educated conservatives tend to be tolerant and actually think before acting.
"Fuck off."
No.
Shoot me down all you like, Darwin. I still want you to be at peace.
Darwin,
"You're slipping."
No, I'm not. No matter how hard you try, I will never be what you assume I am.
I love you.
You err in thinking I assume anything.
"I was actually mistaken."
It was you who automatically assumed one of your "peaceful" muslims was targeted.
In any event, whoever did it has my gratitude. Stop shoving islam and muslim "culture" down the throats of people. Her ploy was no act to promote harmony as she said, it was a transparent attempt to slip islam into mainstream and desensitize the student population.
"No."
You're a muslim apologist, you have no choice but to fuck off.
"Shoot me down all you like, Darwin. I still want you to be at peace."
You shoot yourself down. Your arguments don't jive with reality. Simply telling people that muslims are peaceful certainly does not work in the face of everything that's happening. Your excuse that "it's just the extremists" doesn't hold water.
What's most telling in this on-going exchange is your non-mention, and lack of compassion for past and present victims of islam. Your sole focus has been an attempt to steer people here from what they know to be true ...
Your constant reference to peace needs to go. Your definiton of peace is wrong. Peace does not mean absence of strive or despair. Your definiton of peace may be personal, in which case you should keep it to yourself. It does not apply to others or events.
Darwin,
"It was you who automatically assumed one of your "peaceful" muslims was targeted."
I just thought that was the case. I was mistaken. I admitted my mistake. I think that's admirable.
"You're a muslim apologist"
I'm sympathetic to peaceful Muslims. I am no apologist to Muslim extremists.
"In any event, whoever did it has my gratitude."
Come on man. Now you're being an apologist for people who promote intolerence.
"Her ploy was no act to promote harmony as she said, it was a transparent attempt to slip islam into mainstream and desensitize the student population."
What are you basing that on? You don't know anything about her motives.
"Your excuse that "it's just the extremists" doesn't hold water."
I don't understand why. I say this with all the respect in the world, because I believe I have a good argument. Please tell me why.
"lack of compassion for past and present victims of islam."
This is very offensive, Darwin. I stated in another post that I have love and compassion for all victims of extremism and war. This definitely includes victims of extreme Islam. Why would you say such a thing?
"Peace does not mean absence of strive or despair."
I know. I never said it did. I believe completely that war is, unfortunately, necessary sometimes. Jonathan made a good point about peace through force. He pointed out that we achieved peace with Japan through superior force. I just didn't like the use of the Atomic bomb. However, I agree that peace was, more or less, achieved. I believe war and any kind of fighting should be avoided whenever possible. I do realize though, that it is necessary at times.
"Your definiton of peace may be personal, in which case you should keep it to yourself."
Why? Even though I think you're incorrect about what you think my definition of peace is, I should still be allowed to express it.
Peace Darwin.
"I just thought that was the case. I was mistaken. I admitted my mistake. I think that's admirable."
So what? What could you do? Deny it?
"I'm sympathetic to peaceful Muslims. I am no apologist to Muslim extremists."
You're sympathetic to muslims period. If it was only "peaceful" muslims you were concerned with you be outraged at how radical islam is infesting our schools and workplaces, not to mention being shoved down our throats. Which I might add you have an affinity for. Stop it.
"What are you basing that on? You don't know anything about her motives."
The muslim student association was involved. For all I know they staged the event. The MSA is radical and intimidates students into shutting up. They also petition and get fucking prayer areas and footbaths. They should be eradicated the cheapest way possible. They are nothing more than infectious vermin.
I recommend calling Terminex and since you claim you hate radicalism you no doubt will agree with me.
"I don't understand why. I say this with all the respect in the world, because I believe I have a good argument. Please tell me why."
You have no argument except "concentrate on extremists". Need I tell you again that silence and inaction is nothing more than tacit support for radicalism.
"This is very offensive, Darwin."
Why? You've spent your entire time here proclaiming your virtues and pleading the case for muslims and the islamization of America. If you mentioned anyone else it was in passing. Your acceptance of a brutal cult is offensive to me.
"I should still be allowed to express it."
You have, more than enough.
Darwin,
"They should be eradicated the cheapest way possible. They are nothing more than infectious vermin."
This statement brings tears to my eyes. I'm not kidding.
In all seriousness, can I have a show of hands from everyone on this blog? Who agrees with this proclamation of genocide? Who doesn't?
Jenn, I'll ask you specifically, is this the kind of message you're trying to convey with this blog?
Darwin, I don't know how many times I can tell you that I don't condone extremism. I don't. Ever. You have just stated that Muslims are vermin that need to be eradicated. This is nothing but extremism and it will not be tolerated by people who truly want peace.
Peace to all people who oppose genocide of any kind.
"You have just stated that Muslims are vermin that need to be eradicated."
No ... I said the muslim student association, which is another Saudi radical plant should be. You say you're against radicalism ... you should agree with me.
Stop twisting my words ... you do it frequently.
Darwin,
So, you want genocide on people involved in the MSA? I don't really see what else the word "eradicate" could mean.
Peace to all people who oppose genocide.
I don't know what else it means either. It's not genocide ... it's ridding our schools of a radical islamic force. I don't care how we do it ... kill them or boot them out, they're nothing more than vermin.
But of course you really don't care if they're radical ... you appauld their efforts.
I'm going to have to agree with Darwin here. Shocking I know. Darwin you're like my long lost twin brother I never had.
Darwin,
You're advocating killing mass groups of people.
Jenn, how can you agree with that?
"But of course you really don't care if they're radical ... you appauld their efforts."
This is false, Darwin. I applaud the efforts of groups who promote compassion and tolerence. I don't yell and scream over foot baths.
"Oh god! The Muslim foot baths are going to wash away everything as we know it. Let's murder the MSA!"
No, that's not at all extreme.
Come on guys. You're advocating murder!
Peace.
"Oh god! The Muslim foot baths are going to wash away everything as we know it. Let's murder the MSA!"
The footbaths and prayer rooms are constructed using public funds. This is America, not the some dusty, barren hellhole in the middle east. If you want footbaths, go there.
You don't seem to realize that as accomodating as America is to people from around the world, these asses want more. People here are used to people from all over the world. We're used to people coming here and melding into American society. We're not used to people coming here demanding we cater to them.
The long and short is America is a very tolerant, patient society. We are slow to anger. Muslims like CAIR and the MSA are accelerating that anger and when the tipping point is reached, I hope they get everything they deserve.
Why don't you do some reading and see for yourself just how insidious and radical these groups are? Since you're so against extremism, I'm truly surprised you don't seem concerned.
Darwin,
Wanting foot baths isn't extremism. Suicide bombers in the name of Allah is extremism.
People do not deserve to be murdered for wanting foot baths in a university.
Peace Darwin. Focus on the real problem.
"Wanting foot baths isn't extremism."
When governments are using public funds it is. It's just another example of caving in to islamists.
"People do not deserve to be murdered for wanting foot baths in a university."
Apparently you don't have any idea how radical these groups are. They consistently preach the death of Jews and destruction of Israel, not to mention anyone else who gets in their way.
If they suddenly disappeared I'd feel no remorse ... in fact I'd be happy. So would many of the students.
"Focus on the real problem."
I am ... you're ignoring it.
Darwin,
"They consistently preach the death of Jews and destruction of Israel, not to mention anyone else who gets in their way."
hmm...not any of the members I've talked to. I hope you're not saying some of my friends want to kill Jews.
"I am ... you're ignoring it."
I disagree.
Peace and music man.
islam Jay ... Is the problem. Anywhere it exists there are and will be problems. It is incompatible with anything other than islam. There is nothing good that has ever come from islam.
Islam must leave the US. It must be confined and not encroach upon the west.
Darwin,
"islam Jay ... Is the problem."
Incorrect.
"Anywhere it exists there are and will be problems."
Incorrect. Anywhere it exists amoung fearful and hateful people like you, there will be problems.
"It is incompatible with anything other than islam."
Blatantly incorrect.
"There is nothing good that has ever come from islam."
Incorrect to the point of being humorous.
"Islam must leave the US."
Incorrect and ignorant.
"It must be confined and not encroach upon the west."
Incorrect and even more ignorant.
Accept people Darwin. It will set you free.
Peace!
Not one thing you said Jay had any basis in the world of reality. You are really confused.
"Accept people Darwin. It will set you free."
I do Jay ... it's islam I itself I was speaking of. I'd ask you to read my lips but you can't ...I.S.L.A.M.
My points are valid and there isn't anything you can show as evidence to disprove them.
For instance, please show me one place in the world where islam exists where there isn't conflict. I'm not asking for much ... just one.
Show me one place in the world where islam is co-existing peacefully with other cultures, religions and people. Just one.
To deny islam is incompatible with the rest of the world is foolish. Your answer is to simply cave in and become muslim, because the only way anything can exist without conflicting islam ... is for there to be nothing else.
Darwin,
"please show me one place in the world where islam exists where there isn't conflict."
Very weak argument, Darwin. Show me one place in the world period that there isn't conflict.
"Your answer is to simply cave in and become muslim, because the only way anything can exist without conflicting islam ... is for there to be nothing else."
This is beyond incorrect. You are so blind!
"I do Jay"
You clearly don't.
"Show me one place in the world where islam is co-existing peacefully with other cultures, religions and people. Just one."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h?
v=_I4YrgGHCXE
This show shows the truth about the majority of Muslims and what a joke people like you are.
Peace to all people!
Jenn,
"Not one thing you said Jay had any basis in the world of reality. You are really confused."
I can see how someone with the inability to look at all sides of an issue would think that.
Peace!
Are you talking about yourself? Because you are most certainly not addressing me with that tripe.
Jay ... you're evading my questions. A YouTube vid is not evidence of islam living in harmony with others.
You evade everyone's questions.
I asked very simple, very direct questions that would prove that yes, islam can co-exist with others. You've failed to produce anything ... because it doesn't exist.
Telling me I'm "incorrect" means nothing if you can't prove it.
As it stands now ... all your efforts to paint islam as a "peaceful" religion have failed. In essence, you've shone a spotlight on how truly weak the argument for a "peaceful" islam is. Thanks.
Darwin,
"A YouTube vid is not evidence of islam living in harmony with others."
I didn't say it was. It's a show that depicts reality as opposed to your paranoid delusions.
"You evade everyone's questions."
Incorrect.
"You've failed to produce anything"
Incorrect.
"because it doesn't exist."
Incorrect. Your irrational fear and hatred makes you think this.
"Telling me I'm "incorrect" means nothing if you can't prove it."
Your irrational fear and hatred proves everything.
"all your efforts to paint islam as a "peaceful" religion have failed."
Incorrect.
"In essence, you've shone a spotlight on how truly weak the argument for a "peaceful" islam is."
Incorrect.
You know nothing but you blind fear and hatred of people.
Peace!
Jenn,
"Because you are most certainly not addressing me with that tripe."
No, I was addressing you because that's what you're like. At least on here anyway.
Peace!
Jay has now resorted to clip and pasting "incorrect" as an answer in addition to "blind hatred and irrational fear".
Great Jay ... never become a hostage negotiator.
Darwin,
Actually I type it every time. And I only use it when you are, in fact, incorrect.
"never become a hostage negotiator."
I have no desire to. I suggest you shouldn't be one either.
Peace!
Darwin just do the sensible thing and every time Jay says you are incorrect remind yourself that you are in fact correct.
Yeah, simple.
I know ... it's all become so mind numbing.
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