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Sounds as if it's to late for the Limey bastards.. now it will be us asking that question soon too! Lucky dogs!
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08.30.07 - 7:21 am | #
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Does is REALLY appear as though they're beginning to "come around" -- or is it merely the groundlings whining tunes to a deaf administration?
BZ
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08.30.07 - 10:47 am | #
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Isn't it a little late for England? I mean it's the "immigrants" (read muslims) that control the politicians. Any course of action against these "peace loving" immigrants now will result in violence and bloodshed ... they passed the line of no return long ago.
Better to do something now and spill as little blood as necessary.
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Wow, Xenophobia runs deep with the lame.
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It's their governments fault. Darwin is right when he says they're in the pocket of the muzzies. Why wlse would they continue to make these ridiculous laws curbing the rights of the natives and bend over backwards to accommodate the invaders?
When their populous complain, THEY are the ones reprimanded. The left in that country will not tolerate any opposition to their capitulation. They are labeled as racist/bigots/xenophobes and many other vile lables.
When your holidays are re-named and remade and even your nursery rhymes rewritten so as to "not offend" your society starts to lose its idenity.
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orion: "Wow, Xenophobia runs deep with the lame."
Brain dead asswipe ... you don't have a clue what the fuck "phobia" means. You have a phobia of facts and things that are true. Secondly, it is not phobic when the peoples of one country sense a threat to their culture, heritage and traditions and speak up or act to protect those things which make them who they are.
Taking action against 20 million illegals, or other "immigrants" such as muslims who have no intent other than to demand we submit to their laws and customs is common sense and necessary for our survival.
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Well, he's got else to offer, Darwin, so he just falls back on the old, "call them a name" game.
His choices for any argument are:
racist
bigot
sexist
homophobe
xenophobe
Did I leave any out?
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nativist
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Uh-OH The Race card has been played!
All discussion must stop, all logic and Factual talk must halt immediately!
The race card must be removed from the table before play can resume....
*The Democrat rule book p345*
Al Sharpton has got a ton of these cards and obviously he has sold a few to Orion.
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Nativist? Ok - that IS new to me. I'll be sure to add t to the list.
Robert, the race card has been over-played at this point. Idiots don't realize it means nothing to anyone anymore. If anything, someone using the race card just means you're on to something and they have no argument in response. Hence, Orion...
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Darwin doesn't realize it but he is a threat to his culture. Count your teeth and comb your mullet you expletive spewing Neanderthal.
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Darwin is more man than you could ever aspire to be, Oh-Moron! He is an articulate fellow, an artist in his own right (musician) and has the soul of a hero, since he has done what alot of us have not - he has served his country honorably as a military servicemember.
In all, a pretty well rounded guy.
You, on the other hand, spew the same old hackneyed tripe that every other member of your lunatic fringe group uses on a minute by minute basis.
If anythng can be done to tear your country apart, you are a willing participant. If anything can be done to blame your country first, you are at the head of the line. If anything can be done or said to weaken your country, you are the first volunteer.
You are the problem. You're a self-hating apologist for every foul threat to this country. You are the threat to our society, civilization and our free way of life.
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witness - "Darwin is more man than you could ever aspire to be, Oh-Moron! He is an articulate fellow, an artist in his own right (musician) and has the soul of a hero, since he has done what alot of us have not - he has served his country honorably as a military servicemember."
Darwin, you are keeping this a secret because........??????????????????
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08.30.07 - 5:39 pm | #
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Darwin, you are keeping this a secret because........??????????????????
Paul Couturier
What secret? Everything I wrote about is stuff he's told us about - except the articulate part. That's self-evident from his writings.
You should visit more often - see what you miss?
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wit ... thanks for the kind words.
Paul ... what was I keeping secret?
Omoron ... awww, what's the use.
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Witness, sorry YOU are a member of the lunatic fringe. Look at the polls, dummy. You are not a patriot and are a threat to democracy as we've known it.
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Dork! I STAND for Democracy as we've known it!
I'll repeat this just for you:
When one becomes tolerant of that which seeks to destroy his way of life, he is no longer enlightened.
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orion: "Witness, sorry YOU are a member of the lunatic fringe."
lol ... oh man. DORK is right. Witness IS the patriot here dirtbag. It's her and others here that are the ones sounding the warning and it's shitheads like you that try to silence her and the rest of us.
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My Hateful Little Bitch orion: "Darwin doesn't realize it but he is a threat to his culture. Count your teeth and comb your mullet you expletive spewing Neanderthal."
Dickhead ... at least get it right. I'm a threat to YOUR culture. Your moral compass has gone awry ... no doubt a product of your schooling. If people like me don't succeed in righting the ship ... your life may one day be under tyranny, probably surrounded by many mosques.
Mullet ... man you are so off track it's really not funny.
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- "Paul ... what was I keeping secret?
darwin
According to witness, you served in the military; I didn't know that!
What branch of military service were you in, and when did you serve?
Paul Couturier |
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Yeah D, just scan in your DD214 because I need to verify! Anyhoo, it probably won't have been in the Gulf, Bosnia or Iraq so that will put you lower in the Paul pecking order.
BTW, I was hoping to meet Jenn , if for nothing else, to show her I don't have a mullet either!
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Confused kris - "Yeah D, just scan in your DD214 because I need to verify! Anyhoo, it probably won't have been in the Gulf, Bosnia or Iraq so that will put you lower in the Paul pecking order."
kris, this has NOTHING to do with pecking orders!!!!!!
If he's a REAL American Veteran, I'll take his word for it, unless he goves me a reason not to, and he's never done that.
Sorry if your British mind was confused :o/
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Confused Kris - 'Yeah D, just scan in your DD214 because I need to verify! Anyhoo, it probably won't have been in the Gulf, Bosnia or Iraq so that will put you lower in the Paul pecking order."
kris, this has NOTHING to do with pecking orders!
If Darwin is a REAL Veteran, then I'm sure he's proud of his service! I merely wanted to know what branc of the military he served in, and when he served. It has NOTHING to do with pecking orders!
Sorry if your British mind got confused :o/
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Paul, you really are a dipstick. I have an American mind, probably due to the fact I was born there and, by the way, served in the US military.
But no, Paul, I anin't scanning my DD214 for you either.
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"What branch of military service were you in, and when did you serve?"
USAF .... 1980 - 95.
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Paul said: "If Darwin is a REAL Veteran..."
Are you seriously suggesting that it's possible that he has been bullshitting us about his service?
You walk an interesting, yet fine line.
You are like a moth to the flame. You can't resist your suicidal tendencies
kris |
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08.31.07 - 4:27 am | #
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kris ... haven't been able to hook up with Jenn yet?
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nope. and I think she's flying back to God's country today.
kris |
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08.31.07 - 5:10 am | #
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Um, yeah I'm British and I just want to take issue with some of the complete rubbish written here. I mean:
"Where once there were nice clean council houses with lovely gardens and friendly neighbors, now there are derelict buildings, piss stained side walks, stairs and passages and thrash filled greens. Burnt out garages, garbage covered yards and blood stains in the street from fights."
I don't for one moment want to suggest that there's exaggeration going on here, because that never happens in the blogoshpere does it? Bloggers are, as we know, paragons of virtue and wouldn't dream of lying to back up their points. I'd be interested to know which part of London you visited and saw these things. As it is, you're making the country sound like devastated post-war Europe or Soviet Russia when, actually, it's a fairly comfortable outpost of the western world. Still. Sorry to disappoint those across the Atlantic who think that we're falling apart. We're not.
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St. George: "Sorry to disappoint those across the Atlantic who think that we're falling apart. We're not."
Reading your papers would lend one to think otherwise. I also think you don't understand that the majority of people in the US view Great Britain as a kindred ally, and it bothers us to see the extent that immigration, especially muslim immigration has cowed the politicians and British people, and turned a once proud and fiercely independent people into a politically correct mush.
I also have no reason to disbelieve Jenn.
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Yeah, that'll be your problem. Reading the newspapers. Healthy cynicism is needed when reading the British press. A few weeks ago we had a father stabbed in the street after he'd confronted a load of youths outside his house and a survey said that 70% of people didn't feel safe walking the streets at night and The Sun lead with the headline ANARCHY IN THE UK which was a bit over the top I think?
But yeah, what would I know? I just live here. Someone from California exaggerating what she sees to fit what she expected before coming here and a load of contributors who've "read the British newspapers" know much better than I do.
If I came on here telling you what the United States is like on the basis of reading the less reputable US papers and some Brit blogger on a weekend trip to New York you'd (rightly) put me in my place.
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Uh ... Georgi. 70% of people who say they are afraid to go out at nite isn't exactly anything to crow about.
What concerns us here is the obvious islamization of England. The consequences of your social programs are another matter ... something we suffer with as well but are trying our best not to go down the road you have.
Jenn's husband is British, that's why she's there. Jenn has no reason to exaggerate and we certainly don't expect her to. Secondly, I understand the defense of your country but you gotta admit ... England is a far cry from what it used to be.
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70% of people not feeling safe on the streets at night and one murder isn't reason enough to declare that we've descended into anarchy though is it? And what did England used to be? It's a familiar refrain and I just don't get it. People seem to yearn for a 1950s style golden age which, really, never existed.
As for the islamisation of the country as you call it I can't help but feel it's overplayed across the Atlantic. Obviously there's a lot to be worried about, the 7/7 bombers being British born and bred has been of particular concern but as a group muslims are hardly a seething revolutionary force ready to overthrow the government and force us all to submit to Allah. The majority of muslims are peaceful, placid members of society (I said muslims, not Islam before people start quoting the more bloodthirsty passages of the Qu'ran at me), it's their leaders who are the problem. Moderate Imams tend to be weak willed and unwilling to challenge jihadists by pretending that what they do has nothing to do with Islam. That needs sorting.
And, generally, the "muslims demand x concession to their religion" type of stories are either complete rubbish or a lot less sensational than they're portrayed as. The same as the majority of what our press writes.
Now, France is a different story. It's far closer to your nightmare vision of Britain but we'll leave that for another time shall we?
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St. George...Ummm even us troglodite Yanks know "The Sun" is over the top on just about everything.
I've been visiting your fair island for over 25 years and am dismayed to see the capitulation to the Muzzies. It's pretty sad.
Of course, we're not much better.
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What do you mean by "capitulation"? I'm genuinely interested to know. If you mean that we don't have an offical policy of telling muslims to "grow the fuck up" when they find something to be offended by I share your dismay. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean.
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I couldn't have said it better myself, St George...
There's apparently a lot of sensationalized crap floating around in the U.S. about Canada as well, as I know there is in Canada about the U.S. P A N I C!!!!! sells magazines and newspapers. We will never see the headline "We were happy today."
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St George
Hey matey. I happen to live in inner-London and those of us without SUVs and who take public transport have no trouble recognising what Jenn describes.
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St George: "but as a group muslims are hardly a seething revolutionary force ready to overthrow the government and force us all to submit to Allah."
Look, I'm not giving in to every sensationalized piece of gossip that flows over the internet or is printed in the press, but what's happening to you is not an armed revolution, it's an immersion into islam. One step here, one concession there ... freedom of speech and thought restricted a tad here, then a little there .... and before you know it ... Voila! You cease to be.
Islamists are trying it here as well ... using political correctness, multiculturalism bullcrap and our very laws against us. Keep painting a rosy picture that you have nothing to worry about.
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The bottom line ... is that through intitial capitualtion to liberal "multiculturalism" and other liberal policies of social programming, you're diluting the peoples of the UK by allowing immigration on such a scale. We have the same problem.
Small pockets of different cultures can peacefully co-exist within the indigenous culture, but when one or more cultures start growing in size, they will naturally compete with the indigenous culture for supremecy. Islam only speeds the process along by demanding it be treated as "special" and requiring rights which are non-existant for other peoples.
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Y'see here's my problem with the "Eurabia" idea a lot of people have. As they assimilate (and they will, just as the Irish, afro-caribbean and non-muslim asians have done and are doing) birthrates will drop into line with everyone elses, religiousity will decline and they'll join the rest of us in enjoying the glories of consumer capitalism. It'll be harder and more fraught with difficulties for muslims than for those from cultures closer to our own, but it'll happen eventually. The key is getting rid of the informal muslim ghettos and scrapping any plans for state funded Islamic schools. If minorities only mix with minorities the results are only ever going to be bad.
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"The key is getting rid of the informal muslim ghettos and scrapping any plans for state funded Islamic schools".
But how do you propose that happening? State funding is of right and I don't think wishing away the informal ghettos will make them fad away.
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St George: "As they assimilate (and they will, just as the Irish, afro-caribbean and non-muslim asians have done and are doing) birthrates will drop into line with everyone elses, religiousity will decline and they'll join the rest of us in enjoying the glories of consumer capitalism."
Keep dreaming. Capitalism and freedom are the antithesis of islam and the problem is they don't assimilate. They ask, demand or threaten the host country until it bends to them. The logical answer to that is to say no, and if you don't like it go somewhere else, but Britain and other countries have given in.
There will be a tipping point, there always is ... and years of appeasement will in the end only have created a bigger problem than if it was met head on from the beginning. History repeats itself and no one ever, ever learns.
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Ha! You're a million miles off the mark, Jenn. It IS the locals who've made England like that. The white trash chavs teaching their kids that 'hoodie' is a legitimate career choice.
Most of the immigrants who come to the UK work 90 hour weeks for minimum wage or below and live twelve to a room. They take jobs from English people because more and more English people have just about given up working. In some ways, you can't even blame them. My wife and I worked our guts out in England, never went out, never made unnessecary purchases... and could hardly make ends meet.
Thank goodness for America, where you're offered the opportunity to earn a decent wage if you're willing to get up off your arse and do some work.
There is a very, VERY serious immigration problem in the UK (why is my American wife persecuted and exploited by the immigration authorities while illegals get welcomed with open arms and free houses?) but the problem of crime, piss stained streets, hoodies ransacking the neighbourhoods and drunken yobs beating people up is ENTIRELY HOME GROWN.
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Another OT thing - but kinda not:
http://www.wnd.com/news/
article....RTICLE_ID=57412
On labor Day yet!
If you think it's bad now - wait about a month! Don't tell me the coyote's won't take advantage of this freebie!
St George - love the Moniker! Too bad you're not allowed to fly them anymore!
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confused kris - "Paul, you really are a dipstick."
No, I'm a Hardcore AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!
what about it????????????
- "I have an American mind, probably due to the fact I was born there and, by the way, served in the US military."
You did????????????????????
Then WHY do you HATE MY GUTS??????
- "But no, Paul, I anin't scanning my DD214 for you either.
kris "
Did I ask you to????????????????
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"USAF .... 1980 - 95.
darwin "
Thanks Daewin :oD
Now I know!!!!!!!!!!
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confused kris - "Paul said: "If Darwin is a REAL Veteran..."
Are you seriously suggesting that it's possible that he has been bullshitting us about his service?"
The EXTREMELY REMOTE possiblilty existed. Until recently, I did didn't know he's a Hardcore Veteran like me!
"You walk an interesting, yet fine line."
Are you jealous? ;oD
You are like a moth to the flame. You can't resist your suicidal tendencies
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"You are like a moth to the flame. You can't resist your suicidal tendencies
kris"
Babbling to yourself again kris? ;o(
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"nope. and I think she's flying back to God's country today.
kris"
Jenn's moving to another country 
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"nope. and I think she's flying back to God's country today.
kris"
Jenn's moving to another country
Paul Couturier
Please knock it off! I know you're trying to be ironic, but people, like myself, really DO consider the US God's Country. Why do you think the devil is trying so hard to destroy us?
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witness - "Please knock it off!"
Knock what off????????????
"I know you're trying to be ironic, but people, like myself, really DO consider the US God's Country."
You don't live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts; DO YOU??????????
- "Why do you think the devil is trying so hard to destroy us?
witness "
Because of all the gutless non-Moderate WIMPS in this country; THAT'S WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kris
you pissing eveyone off? every blog i go to you are pissing and moaning.
I get upset at some of your comments over here about immigrants. I know a lot of people from mexico or second generation. legal by the way. I know them as hard workers who have bought houses and have families.
I know there are the others who abuse and are basicalluy just "using" the country.
So sometimes when you talk about this its sounds like you put down all of them. I know you don't mean all of them just like I don't think all of them are doing things right.
It is time for some changes in immigration.
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PC - Why do you insist on trying to pick fights with EVERYBODY on this site? It's quite boring...
Nice to see you back, Van. The changes in immigration that we need are - NO MORE! And send the illegals back!
OPERATION WETBACK!
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Dear Jenn: Please tell us that the "Muzzies" didn't steal our presents, as you have been remarkably silent on the subject.
As for anyone loudly proclaiming the virtues of Canada, may I suggest you begin by thanking the United States of America for continuing to defend our skies. Who do you think routinely defends this nation......the Snowbirds?......the Canada Geese in Ottawa?
NO!
It's the one and the same country who routinely defends our skies, shores, and borders. A small nod of thanks, even a silent one, might be worth a thought.
(for all those of my Eagle friends in the U.S. who may not know, the Snowbirds are the Canadian Air Force aviation performance team; who have also all trained at Top Gun school)
The best thing about Canada is that it's located so closely to the United States. Should anyone beg to differ, then they might consider pointing themselves over to the latest news story out of Toronto today about a 37-yesr-old MIDDLE EASTERN man arrested with 3, count them 3, IEDs in his car!!!
All you anit-American Canadians don't worry though, as I'm certain that with the almost non-existent bail laws for serious crime up here that said "alleged" criminal will soon be back at his mosque.
Veritas et Fidelis Semper
P.S. Jenn, please excuse me but some things just aren't right and continued ingratitude, and borderline hatred, towards America by Canadians when we owe you all so much is not right. Plus, it is a slap in the face to all of the active-duty and retired Military who regularly visit this site.
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confused witness - "PC - Why do you insist on trying to pick fights with EVERYBODY on this site?"
I don't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- "It's quite boring..."
Then get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Deborah Aylward - "The best thing about Canada is that it's located so closely to the United States."
And the home of my great-grandparents who came to America in the 1890's.
Whenever someone asks my etnic identity, I tell them French-Canadian, with the emphisis on the CANADIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want nothing to do with those damn wimps in France!
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not all mexicans are sneaking over and not all are "wetbacks"
Some actually want to live here and be american. Again thats what our country is all about
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I have some family from Canada. I had a good time there. Nice people.
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Oh V, silly girl. Yes the Donald left one of his trademark yet inane, "have a great weekend!" self-promotion links to a friend who was attending her mother's funeral. I doubt Rachel will be "having a great weekend!" but no doubt she will be grateful for the California space-shot sentiment.
As for you Missus, yet another example of you shooting your mouth off before engaging your brain.
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But you know V, the best part about the above is that my friend went on at some length on her blog how sad and overwhelming she was finding her mother's death.
Donald's problem was that he did not bother to read what SHE had said before plugging away re his own self-interest.
They say that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. That you got your education from him, quite frankly, says it all.
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And for my moderate friend Paul: -
USN 1982-1991
kris |
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not all mexicans are sneaking over and not all are "wetbacks"
Some actually want to live here and be american. Again thats what our country is all about
vanessa
Ya know, I'm, so sick of this crap it absolutely buggers the mind!
The only ones that we are complaining about ARE the ones sneaking over the border you dim-wit!
Sorry! Sorry! Losing temper, BADLY!
We don't CARE about legal immigrants! They are WELCOME!
Can I get any clearer than THAT!
What we are sick to death of, is the ILLEGAL horde that is infesting our neighborhoods and KILLING our country!
Do you GET THAT????
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"I work at Bolling AFB."
Never been to Bolling ... I was at Langley VA, Holloman NM, Laughlin TX, Hahn AB, GE and Pope in NC ... passe thru several others but never Bolling.
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wit: "We don't CARE about legal immigrants! They are WELCOME!"
Maybe ... maybe not. I still think we need to halt all immigration for at least 5 to 10 years so we can sort out what we have. We should stop all muslim immigration period until we can deal with the Saudi Wahhabi problem in this country.
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I'm with Darwin: just shut the gates for the forseeable future and deal with what we've got.
Roland, if only it were true. Come live in inner city London. The gangs are largely made of ethnic minorities. I'm sorry that's the case, but it is. Rather than pretending that it's not, I wish to God people in the UK would look to the reasons why they won't assimilate.
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wit: "I work in the first (and only) big silver building on the left. You know what it is..."
I checked it out on Google Earth. Found the silver building ... no massive attennae arrays or satellite dishes ... what is it?
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kris: "I wish to God people in the UK would look to the reasons why they won't assimilate."
Because they're waiting for the British islamic government to emerge?
Or is it no one is forcing them to by catering to their every whim and "cultural" desire?
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I checked it out on Google Earth. Found the silver building ... no massive attennae arrays or satellite dishes ... what is it?
darwin
Sorry, friend. Can't say. You know why...
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08.31.07 - 4:53 pm | #
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That's good enough for me. Bolling handles all the traffic for the top dogs. Must be protocol intense.
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08.31.07 - 4:55 pm | #
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Please don't go away, friends. Gotta walk Miss Daisy! I'll be back!
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08.31.07 - 4:55 pm | #
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Denial runs deep in the UK Darwin. I can't wait for Jenn's pictures.
kris |
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08.31.07 - 4:55 pm | #
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I have no idea how, or why they would deny what's going on.
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08.31.07 - 5:02 pm | #
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I have no idea how, or why they would deny what's going on.
darwin
Same reason we deny it here! PC! The left has dominated things for so long that it's no longer even acceptible to bring the topic up! Look at Van!
Did you catch my link to the super HWY?
We are sooooo screwed!
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08.31.07 - 5:23 pm | #
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"Did you catch my link to the super HWY?"
Yes ... we can thank Bush and the Senate for that although they'll tell you it's a state thing.
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08.31.07 - 5:32 pm | #
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OK! So I'm dyslexic! It's the first building on the RIGHT!
HOW apropos!
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08.31.07 - 5:41 pm | #
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Yes ... we can thank Bush and the Senate for that although they'll tell you it's a state thing.
darwin
This is so depressing to me. I don't know how we can fx this.
Every time a state or local juristiction tries to defendc itself against this, some asshat judge overturns it and says it unConstitutional.
THIS is what's klling us!
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08.31.07 - 5:54 pm | #
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Kris - can't argue with you. I lived in the Westcountry, South Coast and (briefly) wales and there it was the pikey chav white trash scum who caused all the crime and misery. If it's different in inner city London, you'd know a hell of a lot better than me.
I still resent Jenn's remarks. How she and Darwin can assume an indignant attitude about a country they've visted for mere days, I don't get. But then again, Ann Coulter and Micheal Moore prove that political pundits don't actually need to have a shred of evidence or experience to back up their bullshit as long as they've got a forum for it.
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08.31.07 - 6:00 pm | #
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Hey, Witness. If a judge says it's unconstitutional... well, maybe it's just bloody unconstitutional.
And the sad, but wonderful, tragic, brilliant fact about America is that there is this constitution in place and it's awesome, even if it doesn't work for some of us some of the time.
It's the oldest constitution still in existence. It's importance, in my humble opinion, outweighs the bible and the collected works of Shakespeare. I wasn't born in America, but I'd live and die by the American constitution even if my enemies profit by it.
Now PRECEDENT. Legal PRECEDENT. That's the icing on the devil's teacakes. That's what's screwing the legal system. If we worried about what was CONSTITUTIONAL and not what had been established by legal PRECEDENT we'd all be living in the American utopia we deserve.
Precedent, for example, was what enabled the slave traders to neatly ignore that "all men are equal" bit in the D of I. Trust lawyers to be able to wrangle people out of their god given rights.
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08.31.07 - 6:20 pm | #
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Precedent, for example, was what enabled the slave traders to neatly ignore that "all men are equal" bit in the D of I. Trust lawyers to be able to wrangle people out of their god given rights.
Roland Hulme
It's also how our judges (loosely applied term here) interprete law. It's crap!
DO NOT even bring up the Declaration of Indenpendence to me!
At the time, (if you are a student of history) you KNOW that they were counting that slavery was on its way out. Until Ely Whitney and the cotton jin. (sp)
So if you want spew your nonsense about slavery - which YOUR people bequeathed upon us - then please take responsibility for the role your nation played in this!
Great Btitain was our Mother Country! Mother England and her other empiric citzens are what populated OUR country.
DO get off your high horse. It won't fly here!
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08.31.07 - 6:44 pm | #
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RH: "How she and Darwin can assume an indignant attitude about a country"
Who's indignant? Is there anything I've said that's wrong? I'm just calling it as I see it, not merely to take potshots at England.
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Here ya go wit ... more insanity.
"Federal judge blocks tougher penalties for illegal-alien hiring"
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/0...l-alien-hiring/
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08.31.07 - 7:24 pm | #
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More islamic threats over cartoons.
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/0...rage-in-sweden/
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08.31.07 - 7:27 pm | #
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"And for my moderate friend Paul: -
USN 1982-1991
kris "
Ok, now WHY do you hate my guts so much???????????????????????????
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witness
you want to end immigration. so yes you have a problem with people here legally.
So if you think this country should not allow anyone else to come in than thats fine. Stop changing aroud your words around everytime it benefits you
kris
I took the time to read what was going on. Sorry your friend lost her mother.
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08.31.07 - 9:36 pm | #
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darwin
thanks for at least being honest. witness keeps changing her mind
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08.31.07 - 9:37 pm | #
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Roland, unlike 99% of American tourists, I went where they don't go. I saw it from the inside. And not camping at a caravan spot.
I sat and listened over and over to the complaints of the people. I saw with my own eyes the filth floating in the Thames, the refuse piles everywhere.
I have repeatedly told you where I was, that would be Abbey Wood, Thamesmead, Greenwich, Plumstead..Uptown all around....I'll give exception to Kent....It truly is the garden of England...did I mention there are like NO FUCKING NON INDIGENOUS PEOPLE? And that would be why it's still pretty.
Wander around Abbey Wood on a weekday afternoon and what do you see? Not one single pasty white Englishman or woman.. but you see an ever loving feckload of Muzzies and Africans. Don't tell me I can't suss out the situation in 15 days. Not with the inside tips I had.
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08.31.07 - 10:44 pm | #
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"I lived in the Westcountry, South Coast and (briefly) wales and there it was the pikey chav white trash scum who caused all the crime and misery. If it's different in inner city London, you'd know a hell of a lot better than me."
It is different. The pikeys keep to their own in the camp they live in.
Never said there wasn't white trash, just picking on the majority. Which ISN'T white.
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08.31.07 - 11:34 pm | #
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Paul
Honestly, I don't think anyone here hates you, including myself.
But that doesn't stop any of us challenging you if we think you've been inconsistent.
kris |
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Paul ... I called the Punctuation Mark Abuse hotline and informed them of your constant abuse of these innocent symbols.
Sorry man, I had to do it. I just couldn't sit by and watch any longer. There's an organization called OverEmphasizers Anonymous that's been helping people like you for years. Give them a call and start fighting this horrible affliction.
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Hang on, Jenn. If you were so surrounded by immigrants all the time, when exactly did you have the opportunity to do an in depth cultural analysis of pikeys and chavs?
Roland Hulme |
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09.01.07 - 7:11 am | #
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talking to you?
kris |
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09.01.07 - 7:33 am | #
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Dear Vanessa
That is kind.
Pax
kris |
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09.01.07 - 7:39 am | #
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Van - I'm not changing my mind. People who come here legally are welcome. But I also agree with Darwin that we need to put a moritorium on all immigration so we can sort out what we have. Those already in the system need to be processed through and the doors need to be closed behind them.
Illegals, on the other hand, need to go. All illegals! Regardless of where they come from. If they are from GB, Polland, Ireland, Canada (whatever) and have broken our immigration laws (even to overstaying a visa) need to go.
Miss Jenn is right - the time of the immigrant is over.
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Speaking of immigration problems:
http://www.thestar.com/article/252031
Laughably, their MSM are also dubbing this a lone-nut job. Odd that their lone-nuts, like ours, all seem to have ONE thing in common.
Canada should probably rethink that open door policy with regards to persons of the ME variety...
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09.01.07 - 8:31 am | #
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Ok before this thread dies....which it still seems very alive...Yehaaa!
Come to My Point and take the poll I placed on the right side bar.......begging!! hahaha
The next poll I'll do immigration!
Thanks for the shameless plug!!
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09.01.07 - 8:54 am | #
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kris - "Paul
Honestly, I don't think anyone here hates you, including myself."
Can you prove it?????????????
Jenn and other say you're a nice person, but you're making it awfully hard for me to believe them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"But that doesn't stop any of us challenging you if we think you've been inconsistent.
kris"
Ok
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09.01.07 - 11:31 am | #
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darwin - " Paul ... I called the Punctuation Mark Abuse hotline and informed them of your constant abuse of these innocent symbols."
Sorry darwin, thete's NO SUCH THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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- "Sorry man, I had to do it. I just couldn't sit by and watch any longer. There's an organization called OverEmphasizers Anonymous that's been helping people like you for years. Give them a call and start fighting this horrible affliction.
darwin "
OK ::::PUZZLED::::
Paul Couturier |
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09.01.07 - 11:33 am | #
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LOL Roland. Our good friend Jay is himself a pikey. And they have a camp walking distance from husbands house.
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09.01.07 - 11:48 am | #
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The only problem with immigrants in the UK is that they occasionally produce children who strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up in the subway.
Oh, wait...
Roland Hulme |
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Howabout all the ones that we saw cued up at the Post Office waiting for their dole money, let's not leave them out. Did YOU live in council housing?
Jennofthejungle |
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09.01.07 - 12:43 pm | #
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Why is it assumed that it's some kind of universal right that people can come to western countries? Please stay home and fix your own shit.
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Amen, Darwin! With all the bitchin they do here and over there you'd think they were being picked on and had it much better at home.
But - then again, they are the culture of grievence. The victo-crats.
If we can't sen them home can we just ship em off-shore somewhere? Anywhere?
What about them islands we used to practice our nukes on?
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