This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
"thank you united states for handing us the victory in the Iran-Iraq war twenty years after the fct and taking care of our other enemies the Taliban. Our fellow shias in iraq are just about through robbing you blind and using your soldiers for target practice. Their fingers are getting sore from all the hilarious fun of shooting whomever they like and getting free bullets and body armour. we are all working together to use you for your money and fire power and just want to keep you here as long as possible to get as much of your blood and treasure as we can. it's the greatest revenge in history" was what he said I believe
"Soon, we will see a huge power vacuum in the region. Of course, we are prepared to fill the gap, with the help of neighbors and regional friends like Saudi Arabia, and with the help of the Iraqi nation."
This guy is nuts. The Saudi's are even more fanatical and vicious than this little hitler and really don't like him or the Iranians.
The Saudi's actually fear Iran. I believe we would see a big time shift if Iran actually got a nuke or more influence in the area.
Actually - the only reason this nutjob said what he did was because we're actually making progress and it scares the crap out of him.
Really, all we have to do is point the Iraqi's at the Iranians and say, "They are killing you - fell free to go for it!" These people love killing anyway - I doubt they will care WHO they are killing.
One thing you didn't hear on the MSM was that the Shia-Sunni-Kurd Parliment met over the weekend and signed some sort of agreement that pretty enfranchised everybody. Sounds like they are making progress on the political front as well.
They are gonna piss them dems off yet!
lester is proof positive that it is still necesarry to print "DO NOT EAT" on packets of silica gel.
Yeah - But Billy...Lester can't READ!!!
I sure hope the peole of Iran are taking refresher courses in stone tablet writing. They seem to be on a collision course with Fat Man and Little Boy. Even the French are talking about dishing up some Iranian Flambeau. I just hope CNN is there to cover it. Especially Christianne Amanpour.
LOL! Along with MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC?AP/REUTERS etc. ad nauseum! OH! And send Geraldo Rivera!
I believe you said it all in very succulently in two little words, Jenn: "Iran sucks." I can't top that!
even The Economist is advocating a quick and dirty goodbye from GWB bomb run on Iran to sort the problem.
Ahmadinejad needs some good lovin' and a bottle of good Kentucky sippin' whisky.
Not really D he needs a massive 5 k enima. Fucking dirty bastard. Abu Bu that is.
Lestard, are you really Minnie Abu Bu in disguise? You fucking twat.
Dang, Miss Jenn! I can't wait for you to get back!! We miss you!!
I found this elsewhere:
Do the Kuwaitis remember how the US saved them from Saddam's grip? Their words at the last Hajj show they don't. Do the Muslim Bosniaks and Albanians remember how the US helped them against the Christian Serbs? The foiled Fort Dix terrorism plot seems to indicate otherwise.
Islam divides the world between Muslims and non-Muslims, and says the latter are evil no matter what they do. So long as this belief-system has a hold on a person's mind, he will never be grateful for any kindness the USA (or any other infidel state) does him.
On her way to work one morning
Down the path along side the lake
A tender hearted woman saw a poor half frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Oh well," she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"
"Take me in oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake
She wrapped him up all cozy in a curvature of silk
And then laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk
Now she hurried home from workthat night as soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she'd taking in had been revived
"Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake
Now she clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful," she cried
"But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
Now she stroked his pretty skin and then she kissed and held him tight
But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite
"Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake
"I saved you," cried that woman
"And you've bit me even, why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I'm going to die"
"Oh shut up, silly woman," said the reptile with a grin
"You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in
"Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman," sighed the snake
'Iran Sucks.' My, how profound. Bush sucks for putting us in this mess.
"Bush sucks for putting us in this mess". My, how profound. How many years did it take you to learn how to write like that?
Let me try.
orion sucks. Hows that? Or, should I color it up a bit, something like, ....orion sucks, I'd be happy if he were dead. Better? Or, tell me if you like this,.... orion, I've taken shits smarter than you, you suck.
I'm still waiting for the photographs when you return, Jenn. Unhappy Muzzies indeed -- d'ya think?
BZ
jenn- Iran has benefited the most from both wars and they know it. they are stronger than ever. They aren't impressed by tough talk, particularly with bush at 27% approval.
winess = "Actually - the only reason this nutjob said what he did was because we're actually making progress and it scares the crap out of him. "
oh yeah. the massive 500 death suicide bombing lat week is proof positive of that progress. the surge has been great, it's shown that our troops can patrol the streets of iraq and theirs can't. so as long as we do everything for them forever everything wil be great
"Really, all we have to do is point the Iraqi's at the Iranians and say, "They are killing you - fell free to go for it!" These people love killing anyway - I doubt they will care WHO they are killing."
actually the only positive thing that has happened for them post- saddam is that the shia shrines have re opened and are doing a big business, mainly from iranian tourists. al maliki's public endorsment of ahmedenajad is proof of that. They are buddy buddy
"One thing you didn't hear on the MSM was that the Shia-Sunni-Kurd Parliment met over the weekend and signed some sort of agreement that pretty enfranchised everybody. Sounds like they are making progress on the political front as well."
oh yeah. particualrly with the parliament on vacation for the mnth of august. If you consider making progress to be spending the money they stole from us during the year in the riviera. they are making tons of progress
You're wrong lester - and if you think I'm upset that yet more muslims are dead - sorry. Besides, that was a bunch of nutcases who finally got a chance at some ethnic cleansing. As the muzzie fellow said on the radio the other day, "We will NEVER stop killing each other! Not until the 12th imam returns!"
I also doubt they've stole money from us - we haven't given any up. Don't you keep up on the scandals? Now, they might be stealing from themselves, i.e. their oil revenue.
Look - you just don't have a clue and every time you pontificate you show your ignorance. It's really boring.
The only thing worse than you is orion's inane prattle.
sorry jenn, I've been absent for a while, after reading the lester BS I know why... now I have to take a break and wash my eyes...what a moron.
Imadinnerjacket hasn't changed much, he was one of the hostage takers during Carter's term....he is holding the world hostage now.
Our overly PC society and the blindness of the world during this time, will eventually be talked about in the history books... The only question is, will they be printed in Arabic, or English.
onion - " 'Iran Sucks.' My, how profound. Bush sucks for putting us in this mess.
orion "
What mess are you referring to, onion?
Are you referring to the "mess" of Iraqi people welcoming me and other American Soldiers with open arms? Are you referring to the "mess" of Army Medics immunizing Iraqi children and providing other FREE medical care for them? Are you referring to the "mess" of Army Engineers fixing roads and other infrastructure like water purification plants so that Iraqi people can have FRESH DRINKING WATER?????
Are THOSE the "messes" you are referring to?
The mess that created the need for what you mentioned , moron
The mess that has killed hundreds of thousands based on a lie by our President. The mess that will continue to kill Americans and innocent Iraqis for probably decades.
The mess which has divided this country and our credibility in the world.
The mess which has made many rich and the expense of our soldiers.
You're not a patriot are you, Paul?
You mean the Islamic Revolution mess of 79?....Or do you mean the invasion of Kuwait mess. Who started what mess? You're not a history buff are you orion?
The mess that has killed hundreds of thousands based on a lie by our President. The mess that will continue to kill Americans and innocent Iraqis for probably decades.
orion
You mean the islamofacist movement? The push by radical islam (not so radical, in my view - just plain mainstream) to spread the disease that is islam all over the entire planet? That mess?
The mess that is in Bali/Spain/Indonesia/Kashmir (as well as other parts of India)/Philippines/Africa/Beslan/Denmark/ London/ Madrid/ New York/ Arlington/ Balkins/ Jordan/ Pakistan/ Egypt/ Israel/ Saudi Arabia as well as many other places that I can't even name off the top of my head? THAT mess?
clueless onion - "The mess that created the need for what you mentioned , moron"
What "mess" was that? You mean a mess named osama bin laden?????????
"The mess that has killed hundreds of thousands based on a lie by our President."
When did the President ever kill anyone?????????
- "The mess that will continue to kill Americans and innocent Iraqis for probably decades."
Hello?????????
Haven't you noticed that America has NOT been attacked since 9/11???????
"The mess which has divided this country and our credibility in the world."
What so-called "mess" are you referring to???? the only divisions I see are the ones created by gutless, hate-filled, un-American anti-military extremists LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- "The mess which has made many rich and the expense of our soldiers."
Like who?????????
- "You're not a patriot are you, Paul?
orion"
Yes, I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But apparenly, YOU'RE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry onion; YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"A lie by our president LMAO", can't let the facts get in the way huh orion?
Obviously orion is a college kid going to school on the Gov's tip or at the very least Momma and daddy's cash...
Try taking a history course jackass, find out what appeasement has cost the world in the past.....just a thought.
Never mind orion, the liberal teachers at your school are probably teaching that Jews were responsible for the holocaust.....
Orion-
"The mess which has divided this country and our credibility in the world."
What an original thought.
Forest for the trees, losers.
Hey, don't forget your marbles.
LMAO, that orion is a hoot....
I wish there was a way to ship folks like orion to other countries and have them try to eek out a living, they would be begging to become Americans in a day or two.
The mindset of a liberal:
"My life sucks because the government won't give me what I want" booo freakin hoo....
When Orion grows up he will regret his words.... unless he is forced to grow up in an Arabic ruled nation, then he won't regret anything, his head will be in a basket.
"Forest for the trees, losers.
orion "
Babbling to yourself again, onion?
Orion has no point, ever.
why is it when some clueless liberal comes on here everyone responds to what they say, but I have to beg people to address my points? You republicans just lke to take the easy arguments and are afraid to match wits with someone who knos what they are talking about.
"Besides, that was a bunch of nutcases who finally got a chance at some ethnic cleansing. As the muzzie fellow said on the radio the other day, "We will NEVER stop killing each other! Not until the 12th imam returns!""
whos point are you trying to make? so 500 people killed is a sign of progress? what's a sign of failure? peace?
"I also doubt they've stole money from us - we haven't given any up."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA try 12 billion a month LOSER
http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lob...88504537&sr=1-
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You're confusing what we spend on our troops to the money that was supposedly earmarked for the reconstruction of Iraq. And it's no where NEAR 12 billion (that's with a B).
We've spent plenty on schools and infrastructure, but for the most part that money is still sitting.
Besides - what the hell am I bothering with you anyway. You want us to lose, you want genocide in Iraq (how many millions of deaths is enough for you people?), you want our troops dead, defeated and/or humiliated so we'll never dare use them again for our self defense and you want this country destroyed.
Oh - And you want Israel wiped off the map - more millions dead.
So.......will about a billion dead people finally sate your appetite for death, or do you want more?
"Over at the Defense Ministry, the report notes, there has been a "shocking lack of concern" about the apparent theft of $850 million from the Iraqi military's procurement budget. "In some cases," the report says, "American advisors working for US [Department of Defense] have interceded to remove [Iraqi] suspects from investigations or custody." Of 455 corruption investigations at the Defense Ministry, only 15 have reached the trial stage. A mere four investigators are assigned to investigating corruption in the department. And at the Ministry of Trade, "criminal gangs" divide the spoils, with one handling grain theft, another stealing transportation assets. "
that's 850 mil of your tax dollars. and what do you think they are spending on their month long vacations? money they made on the side? your tax dollars are goig to the massages they are getting the riviera and probably back in to the insurgency as well.
"schools and infrastucture" yeah 12 billion a month on schools. I don't have the heart to tell you about the corruption in those sectors, google "custer battles" if you want a small taste.
"So.......will about a billion dead people finally sate your appetite for death, or do you want more?
"
I should be asking YOU that.
Wow, More liberal trolls here than at the KO's LMAO...
I guess it's time to open a White Flag company, it will be a booming business if folks like Orion and Lester have their way....
The French have been ridiculed for a long time for their lack of nuts, the South koreans and Spaniards have cut their own throats by dealing with terrorists through appeasement....
The NEW DEMORATS, will surrender at the drop of a hat, as long as THEY aren't in charge....
Politics before country, Personal election by any means necessary, even if it means MORE AMERICAN DEAD.... Good strategy liberals.....
The uneducated and welfare recipients might not see through it.
Or people like Lester who want the entire nations (Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel) dead. No amount of the dead will appease Lester. Next he wants you and me and everybody in every western country to be dead or under the heal of sharia. Of course, to be under the heel of sharia, they will have to kill another billion of us.
I say no to Lester's bloody world.
lester "You republicans just lke to take the easy arguments and are afraid to match wits with someone who knos what they are talking about."
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about us Independents??????????
witness- The idea that NOT wanting to create situations like we have in iraq and that we've had in the past in Somalia is somehow calling for genocide is obviously ridiculous. and you are taking an EXTREMEly clinton esqu liberal approach to nation building and interventionism on "humanitarian" grounds. meanwhile, we went in to Iraq because of WMD and al quda connections. That's what the authorization was for anyway. YOU are the one who wants to drop bombs on innocent iranians heads and doesn't mind killing iraqis civilians in the name of "getting tough" with the insurgents.
robert- I'm a liberetarian and probably to the right of you on alot of things. this is a liberal war. joe lieberman, john mcain, the neo cons. ever notice everyone who is pro amnesty is pro iraq war. anything that hurts america they like.
all spending is liberal. 12 billion a month for nation buillding and occupation is liberal. 100%
Hey little lester, if you're a libertarian, you sure have an extremely wierd way of showing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That 12 bil figure is a total lie! We couln't survive and have the roaring economy we have now if that were true.
You're also clueless. You just want to surrender and give the world to the islamofacists - in other words, you want to kill the entire planet.
We had three options in regards to Iraq, the whole ME in fact: Engage, isolate and conflict. We tried to engage them politically and we got slammed; we tried to isolate them and we got slammed; so now we're left with option three. Your kind has bitched at us during each phase, "Noooo, don't do that, do thiiiisssss!" and so on ad nauseum.
With your kind it will always be blame America first.
I would much prefer to have the bloodshed over THERE than here. I know you would prefer to live in a world of exploding pizza parlors and mall massacres. Dirty bomb at a football game? Sure! Why not? We deserve it.
I loathe your weak capitulation and limp submission. Coward!
Lester, For your info, I am not Pro Iraq war, I am pro kicking the shit out of terrorists wherever they are, they were in Iraq, they are in Iran, They are in Saudi Arabia....
I would have been happier about the Iraq issue if we just went in destroyed the military and removed Sadaam THEN LEFT!
I am not happy about the way Bush has run this thing, but I do not call it Bush's war....
The difference between you and I lester is simple:
I believe we should fight for our values and way of life.
You believe our way of life should be changed so we don't have to fight.
You change, I am not bowing down and changing my beliefs, values or Religion to pacify some raghead pedophile worshipping camel jockey.
Lester: We must be tolerant and enlightened
Logical response:
When one becomes tolerant of that which seeks to destroy his way of life, he is no longer enlightened.
lester ... I don't disagree with you on some points, however, we're there. Everything else is academic. What we do now will have consequences. The surge is building a relationship between the common Iraqi and American soldier that will be the deciding factor in whether we pull out sooner than later, and whether we're successful or not.
Whatever sympathies you have for Iran, it's destruction is on the way. May not be tomorrow, but with fanatics like Ahmadinejad and his bevy of ayatollahs, they will force war and ultimately their own destruction ... and not necessarily by our hand either.
It will not happen by our hand, it will happen by Israel's hand... and WE better support it ALL THE WAY!
Russia and China will portray shock and anger, the Saudi's will whine, the Syrians will object... but deep down inside EVERYONE will know it was the best thing that could happen.
"It will not happen by our hand, it will happen by Israel's hand... and WE better support it ALL THE WAY!
"
hahaha. Israel won't lift a finger to help themselves, not when their american slaves will do it for them. whatever, their days are numbered, they want to have one last act of terrorism they are entitled in some respect.
paul coterier- anti war, anti state, pro market. from rothbard to lester libertarian means just that.
witness- " That 12 bil figure is a total lie! We couln't survive and have the roaring economy we have now if that were true."
? wait. your argument is that my facts are wrong? unlike most of these ideological disputes, that is pretty simple to resolve. Anyone here who wants to find the amount we pay in iraq and afghanistan a month can do so. If it's on a government website, so much the better. 12 billion is the most recent figure I've heard but if it's more or less fine. and that doesn't cover all our other stuff we are doing. Our military budget is half a trillion. a year.
"You're also clueless. You just want to surrender and give the world to the islamofacists - in other words, you want to kill the entire planet."
I don't see how the war in iraq is hurting "islamofascists". al queda is , by our own governments estimation, bigger and stronger than ever. the islamists routinely win the elections we call for. spreading democracy in the middle east thusfar has led to the elections of hamas, hezbollah, ahmednejad, the muslim brotherhood abd whatever the iraqi government is. shia weirdo regime. How is the war in iraq or the bush doctorine fighting terrorism? by killing terrorists? arabs have like 12 kids apiece. it would take a thousand years to run through all the potential terrorists. and weren't the 9/11 hijackers holed up in europe and the US anyway?
"We had three options in regards to Iraq, the whole ME in fact: Engage, isolate and conflict. We tried to engage them politically and we got slammed; we tried to isolate them and we got slammed; so now we're left with option three. Your kind has bitched at us during each phase, "Noooo, don't do that, do thiiiisssss!" and so on ad nauseum. "
how about we just walk away and leave them to their own region, as they were in the thuosands of years before the United states existed? how about we KEEP our hard earned money instead of throwing it into the desert?
"With your kind it will always be blame America first. "
you got the "America First" part right anyway.
"I would much prefer to have the bloodshed over THERE than here. I know you would prefer to live in a world of exploding pizza parlors and mall massacres. Dirty bomb at a football game? Sure! Why not? We deserve it."
do we have some contract with alqueda that says they can't do terrorism here? there is nothing but our department of homeland security to stop them from doing all the things you describe and more. AND killing our soldiers in iraq.
"I loathe your weak capitulation and limp submission. Coward!"
yeah say that to my face bitch
Easy Lester! Just let us know where and I'm sure we will form an orderly line.
lol ... oh man. That's funny
An orderly line?? Are you kidding?
LMAO
Adolf's getting fiesty. How adorable.
lest is best
U.S. support for Israel is SUCH a waste of Money! Do you people REALIZE just how much money we could be saving on oil prices if it werent for the JEWS who pushed for the Iraq war and NOW want a war with Iran! I have nothing but PURE, UNADULTERATED CONTEMPT for all you Goys who call yourselves "patriots" and believe that its ok for Uncle Sam to be WHORE to Zionist interests!! WhoTF do you think precipitated the disasterous oil shock of the 1970s? ISRAEL! THATS WHO!
Holy shit Jonathan, I think you are right all these psycho Moonbats ARE Lestard! That totally explains everything.
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