This Is Not A Democracy, It's A Republic........
Winston Churchill,Richard the Lion heart and Admeral Horatio Nelson must be spinning in the graves to allow a bunch of camel jockeys do that to them i mean if they were around IAN sould be under control of the english navy and army and the RAF and the big iranian leader would have been swinning from a gallows with about a dozen of his followers
As I read this article, an epiphany took hold... What is it in Iran that can't be solved by good ol "British Colonization"? or Why dont we send over 1000 McDonald's delegates, and take them over with obesity and diabetes? For Fucks sake, launch the F-18's already.
Boozeman has the right idea, but he didn't go far enough. We should offer the Iranians Wal-Mart, Starbucks, McDonalds, Dominos, Comcast (or Dish), and Circuit City.
They will then be clothed, wired, fat, and so well entertained that they won't care if the Brits are there or not.
If that doesn't work, it might be time to play a few "war games" with live ammo.
WMD_Maker - Do you think a few "daisy cutters" in their markets would make as good a statement as a few nukes?
As you stated in your previous post Jenn, Blair should indeed give the muslim nutjobs a dealine to release the illegally siezed hostages. How long does it take for their balistic missiles to reach Iran? 45 minutes? That's a suitable deadline.
From what I just saw on a different report, satellite tracking shows that they were a mile away from Iranian waters (ergo they were in international waters) when the Iranians took them.
firebird
You forgot to add Margaret Thatcher to your list!
None of us know what is going on behind the scenes.
The knee-jerk military rocket response may not be the best solution. Maybe it will. It's probably more of a question of brains rather than balls.
Do you think a few "daisy cutters" in their markets would make as good a statement as a few nukes?
Im not really into the market as a target. There are many Iranians who dislike their govt and they may be trying to find some of the last remnants of food in the country.
I prefer the Ghadafi method - we know where your family sleeps.
Ghadafi method - that'd be hilarious!
Wasn't it April 2001 when a similar incident happened between the USA and China?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/progr.../bh/
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...fic/
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China's now back in their box and they've since assisted in sorting North Korea.
So was Bush wrong then not to turn his key.
There is a big big difference between turning the key on China and flipping it on Iran. The Chinese incident was that the plane was in trouble and made an emergency landing at a Chinese airfield. As I recall they were returned fairly quickly the plane was a mess though, I seem to remember they had to bring in a very large transport to bring it back. The chinese mechanics tore it up pretty bad.
"The knee-jerk military rocket response may not be the best solution. Maybe it will. It's probably more of a question of brains rather than balls."
Nope. It's been how many days now? How many days the Brits have allowed the terrorist training, insurgent weapon supplying, lying, psychotic nut job Iranaian government to hold these kidnapped men and woman.
Iran had a choice, they could have immeadiatly turned them back over, with a big sorry note, or they can do what they are doing, parading them about on tv saying,"Look we nabbed some of the infidels!"
They took choice #2. The only response from England and the only one the Iranians will understand is: force. Period. Clearly they failed diplomacy 101.
Jenn and I listened to a show last night, and he was convinced Iran was going to kick our asses and the US. Just like Rosie.
Jenn could not even get through tpo the guy, he was to bust ranting..and heating up his coffee. Plus his great co host. thank God for Jenn!!
We love her more now
I did finally call in.. ended up hangin up, guy was a nutter.
Lesser Britain has decided to take it's case to the UN. What they expect them to do is beyond me.
Meanwhile ... back home in Lesser Britain, the muslims are bitching about English culture and traditions and the people just let them get away with it.
Ban all alcohol in LB until the people pull their heads outta their asses, maybe that will wake them up.
My god Darwin, that'd kill them all.
Ban all alcohol in LB until the people pull their heads outta their asses, maybe that will wake them up.
Oh shit! Now THAT would wake people here up!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...fic/
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the chinese think might not be such a bad analogy
that was supposed to read "chinese thing"
kris ... the way Iran is racheting up the rhetoric makes it seem they're not looking for diplomatic solutions.
Simply destroying their ONE gas refinery and blocking all ship traffic would bring them around real quick. If not, cruise missles are handy things.
Blocking ship traffic? I think its high time everything bigger than a dinghy in Iranian waters got turned into splinters. It's pretty hard to kidnap troops in other countries waters if you don't have any ships at all.
"Iran has published another letter allegedly written by Leading Seaman Faye Turney in which she supposedly calls for British forces to withdraw from Iraq."
Great! How about a compromise? Iran withdraws any scumbags it has in Iraq, and Britain won't destroy it's only gas refinery. Sound fair?
Can we launch now please?
Nah... why launch when you can sit on your can and let the little nut job threaten you and bully you. Oooooh, scary little Minnie Abu-Bu, let's all kow tow to him. This shit is making me sick.
I wish that sailor would tell them to stick their letters up their chocolate wizzways, but she is probably being forced violently.
The world was better off before the wretched UN
The world was better off before the wretched UN
Firebird, A profound statement. The belief that the UN has EVER done any good requires more faith than it does to believe in a god.
VW
"belief that the UN has EVER done any good"
Aw come on vw I'm sure they have done some good some where. Lets see there was .............................................. well the price of real estate in NYC went up when they moved in, I'm sure that was good for somebody. Trumps old man maybe. and then there was ........................................I'll find something or maybe just take the sub-man's way and make some shit up!!!!
VW
I finnally figured out what the UN was good for. It gives hundreds of New Yorkers jobs speaking their own language, so does dishwashing but thats not the point. If not for the UN those people would be forced to find a job and possibly have a rudimentary understanding of english. Immagine the horror!!!!!
If not for the UN those people would be forced to find a job and possibly have a rudimentary understanding of english.
Not in this city.
The UN "could" be a world-changing organization. However, it lacks any real substance because each member nation still retains sovereignty over its military, laws, etc. If the UN had a constitution, legislature, military, etc that everyone had to comply with - that would make it worthwhile.
IMO, if that ever happened, we'd be a lot closer to world peace than we'll ever get with economic or military alliances like NATO, EU, African Alliance, etc.
Actually, the UN is a cleptocrat full employment service.
VW
Enlightened - and you usually are - that was the scariest and most insane thing you have ever said! The only world peace there would be under a UN model would be the peace of the dead! BILLIONS of dead!
Now - As for the Iranians, I agree that the Brits need to give a very short leash (deadline) and when they don't comply (and they won't) destroy their only refinery. Then the Brits (or better yet, us!) can very magnanimously offer to refine their oil for them - then we can sell it back to them for $200 a gallon! And if it takes taking away the Brits beer to make them see the light, then I say, "Bring on the Prohibition!" They are a GREAT people and I'm sick of seeing them asleep at the wheel!
Did any of you hear that that douche-bag, Pelosi, has been blocking a house resolution condeming Iran and declaring American support for Great Britain, the U.S.'s greatest ally. The *itch has been refusing to even let it come to the floor. How is this resolution controversial? Grrrrrr!
Hello? (knocks on monitor) Is anybody out there?
BREAKING NEWS:
Great Britain got a, "mildly disturbed," (rather than the "GREATLY PEEVED!" they wanted), resolution through the U.N. (THANKS, F-ing Russia!).
THAT otta tell the Iranians that they mean business!
Psssstttttttt!!!!!!!
UK kiss their ass ,get your soldiers back then NUKE'em back to the 6th century
The more I think about this (seeeeeeeethe!) the angrier I get! Today I saw a bunch of those heathens standing outside the Iranian Parliament holdng signs (in English, of course) saying something like, "the 15 British aggressers must be executed for their crimes against Iran."
If these people are harmed in ANY way, not only does their refinery go, but I would destroy 15 Iranian cities. TOTALLY!
I believe this would be an appropriate response and send a nice message to the ass-a-hole-ah's...
go Iran. make them swab the deck and walk the plank. seriously, this thing is going to be over before anyone notices. I can't get worked up about this type of international dusputed waters piffle
What a good little sheeple you are, Lester. I'm sure you would say the same as they are carting off your neighbors and family members.
carting them off to where? I don't think Iran has the capacity to take over America. nor does "Islam".
again i ask where would they be carted off too?
You ignorance is showing - better grab your skirt. We have our own two-prong going on right under our noses.
Not only are they fighting us in their hell-hole countries and spreading their desease all over the world - they are using the west's legal systems is litigation battles in all free countries. All part of their global jihad.
Our own islamic homeland in America - Michigan - has done the following:
Refused to carry passenger in taxi's if they are carrying alcohol or have dogs with them. Including seeing eye dogs for the blind.
Refused to scan pork items at supermarkets, instead insisting that other clerks, management or even customers themselves, scan the items for them.
Flying imams causing an incident on an airline - and then suing because they were racially profile them (Islam is not a "race," but that is the statute they are suing under). To top it off, they are trying to get the names of the passengers on board the plan (some of whome were not American and were muslim themselves and freaked out) who complained so they can name them in the lawsuit. Silencing any dissent is essential to jihad.
And just recently, a muslim woman is suing a judge in federal court because he dismissed her case against a car rental company because she refused to testify without wearing her hijab - a step below a burka that still covers the entire face.
I mean, if WE could sue a judge for decisions we didn't like wouldn't THIS be a different country?
The point is, they are doing this in every western country, including here, to see how far they can push our limits. No matter what, they win. If we capitulate, they win. If we resist, and insist they abide by our laws, they win. Because then they are being discriminated against and they become the VICTIM!
How long before they chip away at enough of our laws, that we, ourselves, become an abomination in their eyes and must be eliminated.
They have always said they plan to destroy the Saturday worshippers first (the Jews) and the Sunday worshippers second (the Christians) and the rest after that.
To you, Lester: When they came for the Jews; I said nothing because I wasn't a Jew. When they came for the Christians; I said nothing because I wasn't a Christian. When they came for me; there wasn't anyone left to speak for me.....
Nice job witness ... I'm with you.
"Today I saw a bunch of those heathens standing outside the Iranian Parliament holdng signs (in English, of course) saying something like, "the 15 British aggressers must be executed for their crimes against Iran." -Wit
See right now I'd be suffering one of two things. I'd be hospitalized because I'd finally thrown my back out.
Or I'd be in jail for kicking their asses so bad they were dead or walked with a limp for the rest if their lives.
witness - Why is my UN comment insane? Clarify what you mean.
My point is that a true world government would eliminate a lot of inconsistencies (laws, economics, etc) and provide some common belief or value system as a result. I'm not saying we would all think about everything the same way, just smooth out the huge disparities that exist.
A single intergrated military under the command of a UN group (probably elected by member nations) would not become a unilateral death machine.
It could all be a waste of time with too many govt officials in the way of success but that wouldn't be much different than we have now.
Just thinking out loud...
Given that England harbors terrorists, shouldn't it follow that we bomb the shit out of them?
"Enlightened" yearns for a Star Tek society. Good luck pal.
Anony-ass-No... they don't willingly do so, and they don't willingly sponsor them....Oh, wait, they do. Kris, you want to take this one?
Jenn - well, dare to dream. Something has to change at some point. We can't keep blowing up morons around the world - well, OK, maybe we can but we shouldn't.
That's enough dreaming. No more rum for me today.
Jenn, I think Anon is the filty feline. The timestamps of her other comments indicate that she's still trolling.
To add to witness' comment about Michigan:
They also have Muslim prayer service over loud speakers in Detroit 3x a day.
Don't dare attempt this if your are a Christian American.
I wish some Americans would start filing lawsuits against this.
"I wish some Americans would start filing lawsuits against this."
Muslims are becoming more isolated and fundamentalist as time passes. Those who wish to remain in the US should be respectful of OUR culture, laws and traditions, not try to impose theirs on us. The rest can leave.
"Those who wish to remain in the US should be respectful of OUR culture, laws and traditions, not try to impose theirs on us. The rest can leave."
And we need more Americans to think this way. We can pretty much kiss that goodbye with the house majority of wimps.
The whole issue of Muslims in the US is a huge challenge to the notion of freedom of religion. One one hand they are entitled to practice their religion as they wish. On the other hand, several aspects of their religion violate laws and social norms.
Culturally, we shouldn't do anything special to accomodate their practices just as we don't for any other religion. The Muslims should try to relax their rigid requirements and move into the 21st century (get rid of the scarfs, etc).
As for the stand-off in Iran, all this BS with the soldiers saying "sorry" is taken straight from the old Soviet propoganda playbook. It's funny and pathetic at the same time. Give it another week or so to go nowhere and they'll be released with some sort of financial or political concession from the Brits.
Once they're out, then we bomb 'em.
Culturally, we shouldn't do anything special to accomodate their practices just as we don't for any other religion. The Muslims should try to relax their rigid requirements and move into the 21st century (get rid of the scarfs, etc).
The only thing the muslems need to do is stop trying to force everyone to adhere to THEIR religious rules.
If they dont want to see a pic of Mo, fine dont look, but do not force me to not have a pict of Mo. You want to pray to Mecca 5 times a day fine go ahead but dont expect me to disrupt my day for your religion.
You dont want to touch pork fine get a job where touching pork is not part of the job.
Mmmmmm pork, lovely pork. I think tomorrow I shall have pork for breakfast, lunch and dinner. How I love the other white meat!
Now, moving on.
"Give it another week or so to go nowhere and they'll be released with some sort of financial or political concession from the Brits."
England had better not cave. If they do we'll see this over and over, and over and over again. Just say no to concessions of any sort!
Why aren't the human rights protesters out in force protesting the blatant violations of the Geneva Conventions by Iran???
Good Question.
problem with dr A (hmedenajad) is that he doesn't know when enough is enough. in this case it is
Why aren't the human rights protesters out in force protesting the blatant violations of the Geneva Conventions by Iran???
darwin
Ah, Yes! Where IS Amnesty International and the International Red Cross? Why haven't they demanded to see the Brits and makes sure they are being treated humanely?
Hypocrites! I'll tell you where they are! They're all at Club gitmo getting tanned and fat on our dollar! All the while claiming the prisoners there are being treated cruelly (their caloric intake is too high, you're hurting their feelings!).
I loathe the left and all the hypocrisy and double standards that goes with them.
Looks like Britain is going to capitulate. Word is they're going to offer a kinda non-apology apology ... in Tehran.
"The plan is to send someone from the Royal Navy to Tehran to promise that they’d never knowingly enter Iranian waters."
I guess that leaves us with ZERO allies, and Britain overrun with blood thirsty, misogynist muslims.
Why the f#ck are you still here, you stupid ass troll? G#d damn, don't you know what "f#ck off" means?
Sh#t, it's not even my blog, and I am patently offended at this sh#t. Jenn, please...ban the stupid b#tch and be done with it!
I try J, but the fucking bitch keeps coming back. I tried asking her via e-mail, then reposting that here. Banning her IP, which changes daily, and deleting her comments. She's either mentally unstable or doesn't speak fucking english. I vote both.
She's either mentally unstable or doesn't speak fucking english. I vote both.
I'm inclined to agree. Geez, if you told me to leave, I'd do it. I'm not the trolling type. Hell, I've banished trolls before, and they e-mailed me after it to bitch about it...but they never came back. Even THEY could get the hint.
Cyberstalking's not a very attractive characteristic. Must be some sort of inferiority complex she's got.
"Geez, if you told me to leave, I'd do it."
So would almost all rational people. A sick fuck like ShitKitty would say this:
There's nothing wrong, legally, morally, ethically, or spiritually, with my coming here.
As usual, the Shitter is wrong about the legal issues. As for the rest, I'm not sure how someone with no morals, ethics, or spirit could comment on morality, ethics, or spirituality.
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