Enlighten Me! :)
Nice propaganda, Delighfully manipulative and sweetly care free of truth.
My god what kind of horror films do you have on here. I am sure you guys like to play "Generals and Soldiers" but guess what there is a real war going on here, how people like to glorify the situation is beyond me. The cancer of humanity.
Obviosly I'm pro-firearm, but your scenario is a little flawed. Most rapes happen when the woman either knows the attacker or they are caught off-guard. The female having a gun wouldn't help much in either situation.
Even for home protection they aren't ideal unless you leave them unlocked, loaded and laying around the house, which any responsible gun owner should never do, let alone if they have kids.
That's what holsters are for.
The world can always use more dead rapists and chicks with smoking guns! Always!
Jimmy, the holsters are for the rape or for home protection? Because when the guy comes up from behind and grabs you, the firearm in a holster does little to no good. Hell, even if it was in her hand already it would do no good UNLESS she saw the guy coming.
Most rapists don't stand in front of a woman when they attack, it's usually in surprise from behind. Excluding date rapes that is.
Geez, they're ruining your public service announcement, jimmyb! You going to take that? 
What are the stats on those types of rapes?
How do you know where and how "most rapes happen..."
Do you study this?
Funny, but the last 3 serial rapists I've heard about in Ohio attack women they don't know. But maybe they don't read your stats.
For a gun guy, you sound kind of unsure about the whole concept.
So noone should have a loaded gun in the home? I beg to differ.
And woman should be unarmed because they probably couldn't protect themselves anyway?
The poor little woman should just lay back and enjoy it perhaps?
Or only keys and fists are allowed but guns are too dangerous for dumb, weak chicks?
That is a classic liberal argument.
What about multiple attackers?
So in your world, are these just your opinions, or should your will be enforced by the government upon the weak?
I think a victim may have a different opinion.
Regardless, it should be her choice, not yours.
I like your stuff Contagion, but it is my opinion that you're way off base here. Just my opinion, however.
Gwen - Thank you for your opinion conveniently devoid of any facts while you call me a liar on my own site.
You're right: I lied, rapists seek out women with the most fire-power because it adds excitement.
I believe the onus is upon you to show me where I am a liar.
Amen to that!
www.ravingconservative.com
The article that is.
"every time you vote for a gun control proponent, a rapist smiles (evilly, I might add)."
"A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet."
Real Nice jimmyb. Seriously though the video is scary.
I did study rapes incedentally and I can tell you most rapes happen to women under the age of 26. The majority of date rapes happen when alcohol or another drug is involved but alcohol is the #1 date rape drug. Rape is a psychological game not a physical one even though the act if physical. It is done mostly by someone who you know, a boyfriend, a friend. It happens when one person says no and the other person doesn't respect that. Rape can happen by a stranger but it is rare. If you are going to get raped it's going to be by someone you know or trust, not by someone you would think to cary a gun around because they are "dangerous" They aren't likely to be shadows lurking in alleys.
This type of stuff does nothing but scare people. Way to go!
So your contention is rapists want armed victims.
I disagree.
And the smiling comment was more of am opinion than what I state as a fact.
Do you honestly want me to believe that rapist are pro-concealed carry?
You are unarmed and you obviously feel superior to an armed woman, so you proved my point.
Thank you.
So rape is just a matter of disrespect.
What a novel concept.
I remember when feminazis said it was a crime of violence.
You really are progressive, gwen.
Again, I point you to my serial rapist comment. And who gives a fu&& if they know the rapist? That makes them less culpable?
That's really big of you to decide for all women thier choice in how to protect themselves.
With friends like that...
wow, great post! got me all fired up! I have an alarm system AND a gun because I am a 26 year old female that lives alone. Go ahead, break into my house, see what happens!
RE: the ammo pic.
"Good news, everyone! they are suppositories!" - Professor Hubert Farnsworth
Oh, I ment to say earlier that I didn't mean to come off, well mean.
The only point I was proving is that if you are going to be raped it's going to be someone close to you that you didn't expect. I am not against arming yourself, I am saying your senario is unrealistic. I never said that rapist want armed victims. You are putting a lot of extra words into my comments. I did say that rape is a psychological game. In that it is a crime of violence that is more about power than it is sexual gratification. If you want to really protect yourself you need to be aleart and use your head. Don't put down your drinks at parties, don't let yourself be alone with someone that you aren't very very familliar with. The fear your mongering is an unrealistic one, it happens but it is rare.
If it happens once, it is worth stopping.
I'm sure those brass lipstick samples would give the rapist a pretty wet dream as well. For about 100 milliseconds.
Congrats, Teacher Tori.
Self-sufficiency is what this country was founded on!
BTW, Gwen.
There are 3 serial rapists in Ohio right now (that are in the news).
One they caught, I think.
You know there are more.
Not rare enough...
Some people just do not recognize that the right to defend yourself is an absolute human right. Your "propoganda" is full of truth.
Exactly, Shoprat.
"absolute human right"
Now I go must reload some ammo that will not work on people I know or sneaky people....
Jimmy, let me clarify I said most women either know their attack OR are caught off guard. You're seriel rapist most likely catches them off guard.
Where do I get my information? 5 years of law enforcement in both county and state positions. I've taken numerious reports and investigated rapes. So I'm getting my data from not only my own experience but from the statistics we would get biannually. Yes, I've been out of Law Enforcement over 6 years, so my data may be off, that's why I didn't give exact numbers.
My point wasn't that I don't think they should be allowed to carry guns. My point is that in most rape situations carrying a gun is not going to help.
Also, I'm saying no one should have unlocked, loaded firearmes laying around the house, especially if they have kids. Loaded and locked away is one thing. But how do they help you if your house is broken into? If someone breaks in my back door and I have to run upstairs to the bedroom, open the safe and get the keys to the trigger guard, how is that helping protect myself? Even if I left it in the night stand with just a trigger guard on, I still have to run upstairs and unlock it. If I remember the keys.
My firearms are all unloaded, locked away and out of reach. I have a soon to be three year old and I refuse to let him become a statistic for anti-gun nuts.
A gun are only as dangerious as the idiot that owns it.
god, I really need to proof read before I hit publish.
Did I mention the recent home invasion trend in Cinci?
Can your 3 yo rack a slide?
Of course not.
When you were in law enforcement (which I have family that is, btw) did you carry unloaded, just in case?
Or does a badge give you a force field and a Jedi-like mastery of firearms?
Of course not.
I'll bet you $100 I have more range time and better safety skills than 90% of officers on the street or in the office.
I taught my daughter about guns as soon as she was old enough to understand the concept.
You don't leave your kid in the car with it running, but you don't lock the car up and lock up the keys every minute it's not in sight.
Guns, cars, cigarette lighters, Drano, electrical outlets, aspirin, the stove, hot water, stairways, etc. - All useful; all dangerous misapplied.
I find your special case applied only to firearms, and to nothing else, curious.
If there are not enough ultra-violent rapes by strangers, do murders, assaults, kidnappings and home invasions count too?
PS - You don't need to proof read to post here! It's all good.
By the way, I have a firearm right beside me right now.
I feel all warm and fuzzy and safe. 
i agree wholeheartedly!! by the way, someone PLEASE tell me how Clinton got to be the president that all women love, because he 'respects women'. not that he's a rapist or...he just *ucks around on his wife. so why do feminists think he's the greatest?
Maybe I'm just uptight because I have a young daughter and a wife that's a woman...
Hi Libby!
Mahndisa provided a link to some professor's website, who had you linked on the margin. The name caught my eye. I'm a factory worker too - but not in a union factory. Anyway, LOVE your blog - the guy from SNL, Mr. "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like me," needs to do 17 hours of community service for...general purposes - and all 17 hours should be spent reading your blog and writing an essay, proving he read your blog. Rock on!
I don't know which is more scary, to contend that rapes are by far committed by known persons, but unexpectedly and nothing can be done about it and an armed person is unable to protect themselves - or that with a war going on self-defense is a cancer...?
Maybe if one of those about-to-be raped women had been armed when Uday Hussein (obviously a well-known person) came through the door... or it wouldn't matter becaue there's nothing that can prepare you for the unexpected...?
Contagion,
I whole heartedly agree with you. My dad, uncle, cousins, were all in law inforcement. I guess I am the black sheep for being an advocate. They all had those exact same safety proceedures. It's the only way. Kids do stupid things, their brains fall out of their head time to time.
Luckily enough I have parents that love me and want to protect me, what do they say to do if I get into trouble. Well it's not using a gun. I am quite stocked up on pepper spray though!
My 3 year old can't rack a slide, the 12 year old can and the three year old can pull the hammer on a revolver.
Did I carry unloaded, nope.
Does the badge give me Jedi powers nope, and the kevlar wasn't too hot either.
There are a lot of people that have more range time then cops do. I'm not sure what that has to do with this, but okay.
How many times do cops fire their handguns in the line of duty? I know cops that never have, and I know cops that have a couple of times. I can honestly say I rarely drew my sidearm.
Actually I put my car in the garage and lock it when I'm not driving. I thought that was common, maybe I'm unique. I also leave my keys on my key ring, which I don't carry with me 24/7. I've walked to the garage to get in, and not had my keys. It happens.
BTW. Right now I have a three firearms by me, one of which shoots 6 .735 roundballs simultaniously. It's unloaded so it's nothing more then a glorified club right now. Then again, if I pointed a 3 inch wide barrel at someone I guess being loaded or not is trivial.
No I said those who glorify war are the cancer of humanity. War period not just this war!
Gwen, I actually side closer to Jimmy then you on this issue. I'm just saying carrying a gun does not guarantee that a woman won't be raped.
What about instead of trying to prevent the act itself, the symptom as it were, we attempt to address the source, whatever it is in society that perpetrates the mind set of a rapist.
Just a thought.
Carrying a handgun doesn't mean that you won't get raped, but I do think there would be a positive, deterring benefit from women carrying handguns. At the very least, criminals might think twice, instead of simply assuming that a woman will be unable to defend herself. For my own part, I mostly like the idea of having a gun in my home when I have my own place, and am not stuck in a college dorm, because there is a better chance that you will be able to defend yourself in your own home. Also, the date rape thing is an entirely different kind of rape, and requires totally different preventative measures. So, yay guns. They are so empowering to use, even just on a range.
Gwen - ask the guy in law enforcement how well pepper spray works on:
drunks, crazy people, cocaine/pcp/or ghb influenced, highly motivated, or somewhat immune people (among others).
You may have a false sense of security with that.
Claire - Are you advocating preemptive strikes on rapists? Please tell me you're not blaming society for a rapist's actions. Can I do WHATEVER I want and blame society (or Bush)?
Sounds like a free pass.
Synopsis:
jimmyb and Uber and the Quartermaster- Like dead rapists and smoking guns. Yay!
Gwen and Claire - Want understanding and a rolled up newspaper to combat rapists.
Contagion - Likes to confuse jimmyb with his complexity.
To be continued....
Remember ladies, for that extra protective power, remember to seal mercury in those hollowpoints, effectively guaranteeing your assailant will be caught (after he is admitted to the morgue with mercury poisoning and, let's not forget, DOOM).
Because, let's face it; men in general are stronger, faster, and more aggressive than women. And high-velocity lead poisoning is the great equalizer. 'Cause nobody can outrun a bullet.
Lord no, pre-emptive strikes are the last thing I was thinking of.
And I don't recall saying that society is to blame, I just think that every thing has a root cause. There is something wrong or lacking somewhere that creates this sort of mindset, and perhaps we would be better served if we spent a little time on that as well.
Proactive action, instead of reactionary.
whatever it is in society that perpetrates the mind set of a rapist.
Uhhhhhh...
ok.
Those were your words, Claire.
That sure sounds like you're blaming society to me.
Remember though, English is only my first language.
So what is this root cause?
Republicans?
Bush?
Flouride?
No Child Left Behind?
Enlighten me, please.
You're from Canada, aren't you?
For the record, I am still in the dead rapist camp.
Evil is the root cause. The solution is peace through superior firepower.
Right on, Fitch.
Well, whatever floats your boat there Jimmyb, I would rather trust someone who isn't gun crazy, or afraid of their own shadow.
Contagion- I am agreeing with your storage method of your guns not proclaiming you to be a member of the green party.
Oh yeah and seriously "No Child Left Behind" really! The worst pice of legislation next to the Patriot Act!
Oh yeah and I put puppy pictures up today!
If guns don't prevent/deter rapists, then why is it that whenever CCW laws are passed in a particular location, the result IN EVERY CASE is a dramatic DECREASE in violent crimes towards WOMEN? Do the research! Every time a state passes legislation allowing citizens to carry firearms to protect themselves, crime goes down. NEVER has it gone up.
A woman with a gun is many times LESS LIKELY to be injured by an attacker, even when the gun isn't fired. Firearms belonging to the victim only account for .001% of the weapons used in violent crimes.
Gwen states that most rapists know their victims but states that in order to prevent rapes, women should not be alone with people they don't really know very well. Sounds to me like they should only hang out with complete strangers! Or better yet, become total recluses, never leave the house and never talk to anybody. Can't risk striking up the interest of a rapist, now can we?
Much better alternative than allowing a woman to protect herself with a firearm.
I'm with you on this Jimmy. All the way. I'm going to go back to the women against gun control site. Liked that. I don't get feminists only being for women when it is liberal causes. And most of those causes don't genuinely empower women.
02 13 06
Hey UAW guy: You are alright with me. And although acquaintance rape is more common, there are many cases where looking down the barrel of a cold 45 would have stopped them. Thanks for adding some sanity to this screwed up world! Take Care
02 13 06
And trust me, I know for sure you are right!
Yeah, so rape AT gunpoint never happens. The presence of a gun does not negate the liklihood of a rape. The hunter almost always has the advantage over the hunted. All the presence of a gun does in this case is up the ante, and make it more likely that a death will occur. Preferably of the rapist.
Ok before anybody says anything, yes I'm from UK and no we don't have guns & I personally think putting guns in the hands of the general populous is always going to be a bad idea.
Punishment for rapists is an interesting subject. To disagree with most people, shooting a rapist is not the answer, it's too quick.
Castration, either chemical or full blown surgical is one way to go, (I'm for the latter if this was open for discussion).
But I think the best deterrant would be Cosmetic Surgery. 
Seriously, think about it. A rapist is given a sex-change op, placed in general population in a high security prison and told to fend for themselves. See how they like it, I'm sure many potential rapists (who do it because they are sadistic b@st@rds) would think twice if they thought that the pain, hurt and mental trauma they cause would happen to them 100 fold (or more). If they are lucky they might be able to committ suicide to escape otherwise they will suffer every day. Now that's real punishment, An eye for an eye
One last comment on this and then I'm filling this under the "been there, done that" post category.
Gwen, Jimmy's right about OC/Tear gas/Pepper spray on the intoxicated and chemically altered. It really has a minor effect.
And CC laws don't seem to be stopping the guy in Ohio that Jimmy is referring to.
Guns may deter crime, but the will not prevent it.
holy mother of christ, where the fuck do you come up with this shit? Really Jimmy, you can be honest, it's just me and you now....you played hockey without a helmet didn't you?
Well it's enough for me to get away and that is the point.
Keeping in mind that statistics only reflect those that report rapes, here are some results from SOME studies:
General Rape Statistics
Every 2 minutes a woman is raped in the U.S.
72 of every 100,000 women are raped in the U.S. each year.
28% of women are raped by boyfriends.
35% of women are raped by acquaintances.
5% of women are raped by relatives.
Less than one third of all rapes are reported to the authorities.
Rape Situation Statistics
25% of rapes take place in a parking garage or public area.
68% of rapes occur between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.
More than 45% of rapists were under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
Rapists used a weapon in 29% of all rapes.
The victim received external injuries in over 47% of all rapes.
Youth Rape Statistics
15% of rape victims are under the age of 12 (another source said as high as 22%).
29% of rape victims are between the ages of 12 and 17.
44% of rape victims are under the age of 18 (another source said as high as 54%).
80% of rape victims are under the age of 30.
College Rape Statistics
25% of college women have been victims of rape.
8.5% of college men admit to sexually abusing women - but don't consider that rape.
Of the women who were raped, only 25% described it as rape.
Of the women who were raped, only 10% reported the assault.
47% of the rapes were by dates and romantic acquaintances.
Date Rape Statistics
84% of women who were date raped knew their attacker.
Women who are 16-24 are more than four times as likely to be date raped.
90% of date rapes occur when either the victim or attacker was drinking.
33% of men said they would date rape someone if it could go undetected.
44% of women who were date raped have considered suicide.
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Now, just to clear a few things up (and I do really know what I am talking about here)
Rape is less often about sex, it is about power. Physical, mental, emotional. It is about violence- some of the time, even then it most often refers back to the attackers desire to show strength and power over his victim while humilating them.
Victims are less likely to report rape if they knew the attacker, or if they where under the influence of drugs or drinking at the time of the attack- most often because they feel they hold some blame for the attack ( It's my fault, I led him on; I should have known not to go out, where this, etc...)
Women that live in urban communities are 3% more likely to be raped than those that live in country settings.
Over half of rape victims are under 18.
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On a personal note, I can tell you that being a woman, I'd rather have that gun tucked away with me. Because, even if I couldn't get to it before the rape happened, you can be damn sure that the SOB would be feeling it afterwards.
There are schools currently suggesting that female students carry pepper spray. Yea, pepper spray, I'll tell you what, if I'm going
You rule, L.
Finish your comment!!!!!
Finishing:
There are schools currently suggesting that female students carry pepper spray. Yea, pepper spray, I'll tell you what, if I'm going to be pointing something at some man attempting to rape me- it's not going to be pepper spray.
And I am pretty sure that if your "date" sees the holster on your hip, he's going to be more carefull when he goes in for that kiss, let alone when it comes to trying anything more.
I'm not one to fear my own shadow, or be "gun crazy" as someone said- but you can be damn sure that I have no issue when it comes to defending myself, my children or those that I love.
Heh.
L should meet my wife.
I think as long as one doesn't get mistaken for a quail by a republican all should be right with the world. You guys just ummmm rock.
L= voted person you most would like to get busy with, but are too damn scared of too. :D
hmm i think we need a sign up sheet for more hunting trips with Dick Cheney. Say .. Hillary, Moore, the Floating Clown.. can you think of more.
All I can say is Amen!!!
Gun Controle is using both hands.
Nate
You don't leave your kid in the car with it running, but you don't lock the car up and lock up the keys every minute it's not in sight.
Guns, cars, cigarette lighters, Drano, electrical outlets, aspirin, the stove, hot water, stairways, etc. - All useful; all dangerous misapplied.
An interesting statistic from Freakonomics has it that more kids are in danger of being killed by swimming pools in the home than firearms in the home.
In regards to defense sprays, CS and CN are irritants to membrane tissues and can take 5 to 30 seconds to take full effect. 5 seconds can be an eternity when being attacked.
OC, however, is an inflammatory, and is superior to tear gas. And in most instances, I'd say it is effective even against those on drugs, who are drunk, or simply psychotic. That's because two things happen instantly: blepharospasm (where the eyes slam shut hard), and uncontrollable coughing and gagging, as breathing tissues are inflamed, and all but life-support breathing is possible. Now, I wouldn't say it is effective 100% of the time. Its effectiveness would also depend upon how much concentration of the spray the attacker receives. There are also different spray patterns and dispersal density to take into consideration, from stream sprays, cone mists, and fogger sprays. What would suck, is if you are affected by the spray as well. In fact, I think the dangers of any defense weapon, whether it be a handgun, pepper spray, or a knife, is not being physically, mentally, and emotionally prepared and trained in their use, under stressful circumstances.
I'm all for armed and unarmed self-defense skills. But if you are going to be realistic and serious about it, then you need to train yourself, combatively in their use, rehearsing various, likely scenarios, and developing tactics and strategies. And then emotionally investing yourself in that training, so that if and when the sh!t does hit the fan, you don't freeze up.
My favorite Jeff Cooper quote, paraphrased:
Violent criminals fear neither police, judge, nor jury. Therefore, what they must be taught is to fear their victims.
amongst L.'s data was :
"Less than one third of all rapes are reported to the authorities."
basically negating all the other data points, imho. I love rape stats ... especially coming from feminists (not accusing L. of such, her data was impressive). I remember the stat well, in Canada, that 95% of all women in Canada had been abused and/or raped.
I'm sorry .... 95%? Maybe in FWD's wet dreams ....
Almost all the clueful research I've seen points to real rape (as opposed to the 'check bounced' or 'oh god I shouldn't have done that' variety) as singularly voilence and control rather than sex ... so the castration thing ain't gonna do the trick. I like my wife being proficient with her Laysmith .... and I'm pretty confident that she won't hesitate ... nor leave me much to deal with .. LOL
Actually, I understand, I think, feminists and rape (and Clinton) ... considering that most feminists that hit the news could make a mud fence look pretty good!
Intelligent comment from the left is always nice to see, and then we come to FWD. Whirling and fizzing in anger like a chinese firework (and just as efficatous,) FWD once again demonstrates the epithet "loonie leftard." Nothing reasonable, or even intelligible to say? Go for the insult! Prove to the world (once again) that you have no clue, sense, intelligence, class, life, honor, or looks! Well, I can't say about that last one, but looking at the company FWD keeps, odds are not good in her favor. See? THATS how to insult someone meaningfully, naturally, and with style and grace!
P.S. FWD, don't try to come back on this one, or I shall have to taunt you a second time.
nothing warms my heart more than a someone with a "deliverance" accent attempting Monty Python. I would love to hear it first hand. Jeb, as always, my greatest aspiration is to achieve your intellect and class and only by following your lead may one day achieve it. Good call on that whole 'fizzing in anger' pathology. Keep up the good work Jeb.
You know, I just need two more comments to hit 70.
GET ON IT FOLKS!!!!
I wonder if I posted something irretrievably stupid like this, whether I could get get as many hits as you. One more to go Jimmy
Ha!
Do you honestly think you are capable of posting something as stupid as I?
Dream on, hippy!
(BTW, how did you know about my hockey days? Are you spying on me, or are you psychic?)
SEVENTIETH!!!
Thank you ALL for stopping by and commenting. We have some (relative to this blog) old timers, lurkers, newbies, and regulars.
Cool.
I don't know if we resolved anything, but there are certainly some diverse opinions regarding this subject.
Of course, mine are the correct opinions, but this was still a hoot!
Again, thanks all...
pete in Midland: I did say somewhere in there that the stats are based only on those rapes that are reported. When studies point to rapes not being reported vs not reported, they mean reported as in "filed a police report", as that study surely meant.
We can not, and will not ever be able to count the rapes that go unreported to every source. Many studies get their data from Hospitals, clinics, and police reports amoung other sources. Out side of these reports remain an untold number of women, children, and even men who have never spoken of their attacks to anyone.
As for your "especially coming from feminists (not accusing L...) " statement. As much as I favor women's rights, I am far to happy cooking in the kitchen while my husband works. I'll never willingly give up having doors opened for me, or being able to bring my husband his coffee in the morning just so I can go work somewhere with "equal pay".
I do think women should be empowered- which is why every single woman should be trained on a gun bigger than her husbands gun, but there is a big difference between being balanced and being feminist. No man has the right to walk all over a woman, but no woman should have the right to keep her husbands balls in a jar on the shelf either.
***Still for carrying a gun and aiming it, and firing it at rapist. Because I should be entitled to the right to protect myself.
L. dear ... when have feminazi views ever had anything to do with womans "rights" (or their lefts, fo rthat matter)?
I'm happy that my wife is happy in the kitchen too ... although I do wish she'd finish supper in something less than 2 hours once in awhile. Of course, if she wanted to go to work ... that would be ok ... "equal pay for work of equal value" or not.
My point about the statistics on rapes still remains .... you can't make decisions based on what you think may be a true figure .... in stats, we call that BIAS. Nor can you take comments in clinics or emails from feminazis at face value ... after all, it's not like the feminazis don't have an agenda ... nor is it uncommon for women (and likely men too) to claim 'kidnapping" and worse in order to try to explain something they shouldn't have been doing ....
Personally, I'd be a lot more likely to donate to a fund aiming at arming (and training) women, than I would to any fund studying the "causes of rape" ... as I think the former would solve the latter.
there ya go CUG ... 73 ....
Why stop at 73?
If guns don't prevent/deter rapists, then why is it that whenever CCW laws are passed in a particular location, the result IN EVERY CASE is a dramatic DECREASE in violent crimes towards WOMEN? Do the research! Every time a state passes legislation allowing citizens to carry firearms to protect themselves, crime goes down. NEVER has it gone up.
I was hoping someone would say something like this. Whether or not a raped woman was carrying a gun or not isn't really the issue. The more rapists that actually get shot the better. This is what would really deter future rapists.
We should start reporting the stats daily, somewhere very public, on how many criminals were killed in the act by an armed victim.
I say we go for 100.
The more rapists that actually get shot the better.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Woo-hoo, 100 here I come (maybe)!
Heh.
Maybe not...
It's not just the rape stats that go down with the addition of CCP, in every state that's passed one (38 I beleive) crime rates IN EVERY CATAGORY have dropped! I want the sorry MSM to report this every day until the leftards finally get it. GUNS HELP LOWER ALL CRIME RATES. GUNS HELP LOWER ALL CRIME RATES. GUNS HELP LOWER ALL CRIME RATES. What I tell you three times is true.
Oh yeah, FWD. Try posting something relevant next time.
Previous post: H/T (3 times) to Jerry Pournelle.
One more word out of FWD, and POW! To the moon, FWD. To the moon.
I'm putting Jeb in the "more dead rapists is good" column with me.
21 to go. You can do it!
Woo hoo!
So what if they all lack substance?
I never ever said anything about studing the cause of rape. I already know the cause: the lack of the attacker being shot before the rape occured. I couldn't care less about what makes these people "tick", what I am concerned about is what will make them drop dead. And pepper spray isn't likely to do that.
The stats should do at least one thing, we know how many are reported, and even if that is only part of the whole picture, the numbers still are unacceptible. Knowing how many rapes are reported every year should be enough to enlighted people that the old reasonings of how a woman is to react isn't working.
Honest to G*D, I was listening in one day on a "class" for women about protecting themselves, and the speaker was telling women not to fight back- because it increased their chances of being physically hurt. I swear my head did a 360 and flames flew out of my eyes. Women should be empowered, we should know how to defend ourselves, and we should fiercefully do so. Self defense classes should be a required program in every school. And so should some time well spent at a shooting range be required.
"I already know the cause: the lack of the attacker being shot before the rape occured."
I'm surprised that lady didn't say lay back and enjoy it, too.
Typical liberal surrender policy.
No wonder I don't vote for those a##holes.
(Flames are a good thing sometimes, BTW L.)
Synopsis: L rules.
FIAR - What is this "substance" of which you speak?
Using the weapon also proffers the possibility of a well-placed bullet in the genitalia, leaving the would-be assailant in no position to execute a rape now or evermore, for that matter.
I have to admit, though, that the gentleman from England has a point about reorganization of a rapist's life equipment.
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If they lack "substance," then it will b e hard for them to rape anyone to begin with?
OR...If we started removing the rapist's "substance," then repeat offenses will be impossible.
Yeah ... what L. said! Self defence classes should be teaching self DEFENCE ... and we know the best defence is offence. Teaching how to crush certain portions of the male anatomy ... how to use a rattail comb as an extremely effective weapon ... and other such methods are superior, in every way, to the stupid ... scream and run instructions!
Personally, I'm all for publishing the stats of crimes prevented by taking out the perp. I have no feelings of ANY value for criminals, violent or otherwise, and would be happy to see some chlorination of the gene pool. Lets start to follow the trail of breadcrumbs back to the basic morality pathway ....
We the people KNOW how to lower rape crime rates, as detailed above. Now for the scary fact: Nation wide, the average time served for first offense rape is three days. That's from FBI crime stats, and it's not just Vermont, it's the entire country. Three days. We're doing it to ourselves. Help stop crime! Shoot a lawyer!
Oh yeah. FIRMLY in the dead rapist column. I used to pray for God to let me see something like this happening, so I could ventilate a scumbag, but with age; wisdom. Now I pray for everyone to be armed, so they can ventilate the scumbags themseleves! Even that weaky-D Freud. Get a gun and a clue, lefties!
I hope you can make it to one hundred. There is a lot of good responses to it.
Thanks!
Almost there!!!
Are you a student student of mine?
Getting closer to that 100 mark!
The way I see it, we have too many rapist sitting in jails as it is. And what is the point of locking them up only to release them again?
This may sound nutty, but I fault the whole womens movement with these light sentences. When women decided to do the whole feminist thing, they wanted equality straight across all lines. They faught against being seen as the weaker sex, and it sort of took away some of the over protectiveness men had for women. Men, not all but many, have a hard time understanding the effect rape has, because they can't imagine themselves in that position. But those feminist idiots have demanded to be seen just like a man would see another man- most men can't see themselves as being raped. And I think that because of that they have a harder time granting long sentencing for something they see as nothing more than unwanted sex. And who's going to put another person in jail for life just because they had sex?
I hope that isn't too confusing. I'm trying to carry on a conversation while typing, and my head is in too many places.
You know what else might be helpful? Did you ever see an anti-prostitution program where they put pictures of the "Johns" up on billboards around the city? What if they did that to rapists? Put a huge picture of them up on billboards all over the place.
YOu can't kill Rapists in CHINA???? That's BS.
Ewww, and that's a guy killing other guys that raped him!!
ps, 94?
You only need a few more comments. There is got to be more liberal bastards out there willing to comment.
I think I've changed my whole stance. I think you're crazy, jimmyb. Look at Europe. They aren't allowed to have guns, and they are much better off than we are. Did you know that in Germany, you have to pay 5000.00 EU just to get permission to go to Hunting School? THen when you get through with hunting school, you can own a rifle to hunt with for like a year or something. That's the way it should be here, and it will be once we get Bushitler out of office!!!
I agree, Von. For example, if the police didn't have guns either, our streets would be much safer. Don't you think?
It's OK for police to have guns though. They know how to use them, unlike unsuspecting future rape victims.
But we would still all be safer if only the criminals were armed.
What is this "substance" of which you speak?
I dunno. I've heard of it though.
Heh.
100.
Does it count if it's my own comment?
Just in case it doesn't.
Phew!!
Awesome Jimmy! I was hoping you would get the honor of #100 when I left #99.
200, anyone? Wazzup CUG! SURELY I didn't scare off FWD? I vewy vewy sowwy, fweud! Pwease come back!
L. I don't think that was confusing and it parallels what I've said for years. Prof. Mike Adams has mentioned it many time - feminists confuse everyone with the "sex without consequences" and "we hate men" and "we are all equal" stuff since it's pretty self-contradictory. In too many cases, I think that the feminist movement was one of the worst things that ever happened to women .... I certainly don't think I'm insulting a woman by holding the door for her.
But I still think you should all be armed, should be trained, and should learn that you NEED to pull the trigger.
gettin' closer to that 200 mark.
Pete has is right. How in the world did a gesture of respect like holding a door, etc, become an insult? Do these women hate themselves so much that the hate spills over onto everyone? I LOVE the inequalities between the sexes! Thank (Deity of your choice) for them every day!
P.S. I just heard Kinky Friedman on CMT say: "If ya don't love Jesus, go to Hell!" He's building quite the following in his race for Texas Head Honcho.
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