Share your thoughts...or, in the case of moonbats, your unintelligble grunts!
That's disgusting.
I hope the person that wrote that has "a great time" burning in hell.
If you don't question the card maker’s patriotism, I won't be back. That is one sick puppy that desperately needs to be put down. (I’m not speaking figuratively, either!)
Whoever did this suffers from a disease. And I believe if we have "hate crimes" this is certainly one.
But this is just the latest in a long list of low points.
You had Muther Sheehan using the names of fallen soldier for her protest of crosses, and in some cases she did so in direct contradiction to the wishes and instructions of the family.
Muther Sheehan also told a pregnant war widow "Your child will be fatherless for a lie."
And don't forget her Code Pinko bunch outside the same Walter Reed Hospital with signs "maimed for a lie" "Die for Halliburton"
These people believe that WHATEVER they do is right, no matter how low.
Sounds like NAZISM more than anything President Bush has ever done.
I did a rundown on the disease here:
http://
mikesamerica.blogspot.com...384816742545409
Someone is twisting our children and dragging them into political situations way before they should get involved, robbing them of their childhood.
They (not the children) should be shot for TREASON.
Whoever wrote that letter is demented, no doubt. Either it was written by an adult, or some adult is twisting their kid's mind in a terrible way.
However, your attempt to link all liberals to this note ("Is it OK to question their patriotism now?") is highly dubious and not very productive. Should all right-wingers be responsible for Abu Ghraib and Randall Terry?
In terms of parents feeding their kids demented ideas, you might want to know that conservatives are guilty of this as well. Prussian Blue, anyone?
Paul,
First of all, welcome.
Prussian Blue is a couple of girls who sing and who were force-fed neo-Nazi garbage from their skinhead inbred parents. The main difference between the the left and the right is that by and large, the right disowns rightwing kooks (David Duke and Randall Terry, for example), while the left embraces its kooks (Howard Dean, Cindy Sheehan, MoveOn, Michael Moore).
Read Mike's post above in reference to what Mother Moonbat told a pregnant war widow. Also, Howard Dean said yesterday that American cannot win the war on terrorism...while he posed with the CodePink moonbats.
In light of the above observations, as well as the plethora of evidence I see daily from the left, I stand by my original question: is it OK to question their patriotism now?
Thanks for the welcome!
I would say there's a fair difference between the right- and left-wing "kooks" you mentioned: David Duke was grand dragon of the KKK, Randall Terry is a murderer, and Prussian Blue idolizes Hitler. Dean, Sheehan and Moore haven't committed any such crimes, and therefore don't deserve to be disowned like the conservative kooks.
Anyhow, you didn't explain how all liberals were responsible for this hate letter. I'd like to hear that.
Dean, Sheehan and Moore haven't committed any such crimes, and therefore don't deserve to be disowned like the conservative kooks.
Paul, I'm afraid that with your attempt to defend (instead of distance yourself from) Dean, Moonbat Sheehan, and Moore, my optimism in a dialogue with a thoughtful liberal has just gone up in flames.
Those folks are certifiable kooks, "moonbats" if you will. Anyone who's not drunk off of Clinton Kool-Aid knows that. Many on the left are bailing from her faster than Bill Clinton out of an intern's bedroom window when Hillary gets home.
And while we're talking about KKK, did you walk into that or what?
Robert Byrd was a high-profile KKK man himself. He used the n-word on Fox News back in either '01 or '02 (I don't recall when), and stood by it. The left holds him up as a paragon of virtue, and even Her Highness Hillary was at a shindig for Senator Sheets himself a month or so ago. Was she castigated like Trent Lott was for heaping praise on Strom Thurmon (who, despicable as his past was, had never been in the Klan!)? Hell no! Why not? Because aside from the clear MSM double-standard, the left looks up to Senator Sheets.
So my friend, you'll have to spare me the feeble attempt to defend the indefensible. In light of your love for Dean, Sheehan, Moore, et. al., I don't really care what you'd like to hear.
Robert Byrd was a high-profile KKK man himself.
And as such, he is someone I'm happy to distance myself from. See how that works?
In the meantime, while you'd like to hold all liberals responsible for Byrd and for the dispicable note which is the subject of this post, your claim has crumbled under scrutiny. But let's face it, it was only meant for pure partisan appeal and not for logical analysis, wasn't it?
Can't...can't we all just get along?
Yeah, right. Is it just me or did I hear Howie Dean on the news in the last day or so mention the losses in Vietnam at 25,000? I'm sure I heard it but the figure is more like 58,000. He would have know more about it but he went sking.
And Dean's mistatement of Vietnam numbers relates to all liberals being responsible for this dispicable note...how exactly?
Oh, I get it. It was meant to distract. It was an example of a liberal making a mistake, which, given the state of the GOP these days, needs to be brought up whenever possible.
Paul, lighten up dude. Sit back, take a sip of Kool-Aid and relax.
Sorry, I thought this was a blog for serious political debate and not meaningless snipes. My bad. Enjoy the Kool-Aid.
I got carried away. This blog is for Crushing Liberalism. Seems you feel crushed.
And as such, he is someone I'm happy to distance myself from. See how that works?
No, I don't, considering that (a) I don't believe you, and (b) even if I did believe you, that would bring the grand total of leftists who distance themselves from Senator Sheets to...one.
But let's face it, it was only meant for pure partisan appeal and not for logical analysis, wasn't it?
Damn...he's got me figured out! I might as well close the blog down!
And Dean's mistatement of Vietnam numbers
Replace the word "mistatement" with "outright lie", and we may agree on something yet!
Sorry, I thought this was a blog for serious political debate and not meaningless snipes
I resent that! My snipes are very meaningful, thank you very much!
That was a joke, Paul. Like Lee said, "Lighten up." We can definitely tell you're a newbie. Sarcasm is a regular staple here, by me and my guests...even my liberal guests like Kvatch.
(Sidebar: Where has he been? I miss the ol' guy! 
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No, Paul, you still won't back away from Mother Moonbat and the flock, so I don't feel particularly inclined to grace your presence with much more of my witty banter.
No, I don't, considering that (a) I don't believe you, and (b) even if I did believe you, that would bring the grand total of leftists who distance themselves from Senator Sheets to...one.
Ah, I was waiting for that one. When your POV is up against the ropes, simply say you don't believe me! Classic!
Now, as for unanimous support for Byrd, can you please provide some sort of support for that statement? Is is it just like the "all liberals are responsible for a nasty note to a veteran, and oh yeah, they control the entire media" claims? In other words, bullshit?
Replace the word "mistatement" with "outright lie", and we may agree on something yet!
Find me something to indicate that Dean 1) benefitted from lying about this; and 2) knew the correct number off the top of his head but said an incorrect one to derive this benefit; and you will have my agreement. Failing that, though, and this claim can stand up next to the many others you've made here.
That was a joke, Paul. Like Lee said, "Lighten up."
I wish I had a dime for every time, as I'm showing a Bush supporter just how wrong he is, that he comes back with the defense "lighten up!" It's a well known other way of saying "I can't hold up my end of this debate, so please stop!" Please, change your codes.
Sorry, but while you guys find it funny, I find the sorry state of geopolitics to not be a laughing matter.
so I don't feel particularly inclined to grace your presence with much more of my witty banter
I could care less about witty banter (and where I come from, your comments would hardly count as witty). What I came for is to see if you could back up your points. And you can't. Thanks for playing.
Where I come from POV stands for Privately Owned Vehicle.....So what the heck does that have to do with this discussion???
This guy is too tightly wrapped, it's as though he thinks the worlds problems will be solved on a blog.
Where I come from POV stands for Privately Owned Vehicle.....So what the heck does that have to do with this discussion???
Point of View. (The temptation to add "duh" is almost overwhelming.)
it's as though he thinks the worlds problems will be solved on a blog.
This is our only direct outlet to resolving the many differences that are tearing the country and world apart. While many right-wingers would be happy to resolve this conflict on the battlefield (I've heard many in open vocal support of civil war between liberals and conservatives, I shit you not), I don't think this is fitting for so-called civilized society. I give to charity, but it's also important to properly understand the issues of today. My motivation to understand and separate the truth from bullshit is probably the defining difference between me and you.
Paul, talking with you is like masturbating with a cheese grater: amusing at first, but in the end, just plain painful.
You've been an interesting museum piece, but I'm moving on to the next exhibit. If you feel compelled to waste your time and energy on "I won, you lost, blah-blah-blah", I won't stop you, dude. Why deprive you of an imagined victory, since you guys can't seem to score any victories at the ballot boxes these days? That would just be damned cruel of me.
I assure you, I don't give a wet fart on a dry January Monday if your exercise in moonbattery makes you gidder than a N.O.W. hag at a Melissa Etheridge & k.d. lang concert. Whatever gets you through the night, my man.
Paul, talking with you is like masturbating with a cheese grater: amusing at first, but in the end, just plain painful.
Hmmm. Your idea of amusement has something in common with your ideas of truth and common sense.
You've been an interesting museum piece, but I'm moving on to the next exhibit.
You've been saying that for a while now, hoping that I will go away and leave your blog to you...what was it...wingnuts?
If you feel compelled to waste your time and energy
I'm wasting my time? That's funny, considering I've dispelled a handful of myths you guys are busy propagating, while you content yourselves to crack jokes and make meaningless comments.
since you guys can't seem to score any victories at the ballot boxes these days
Who are "you guys"? You mean the libertarians? No, we don't win too many, do we?
Oh, I get it, you mean "democrats." Well, I'm no democrat, but there is a lot of corruption in our electoral system which accounts for many GOP wins.
To be honest, I visit a right-wing blog every now and then, to dispell some bullshit as I see it, and to learn something I might not have known, sort of a reality check. Thanks for letting me know that I'm on the right track. Sadly, you've really made your worldview look particularly lacking to any open-minded person who visits this page.
I do wonder what you guys are doing here, though. What's the point? Can't you find any friends in the real world?
Sorry, that anonymous was me. Your site's cookies don't work all the time.
You mean the libertarians? No, we don't win too many, do we?
Yeah, you're libertarian! Which is why you've defended Sheehan, Moore, and Dean? Which is why you've defended the MSM? Which is why you've parroted the DNC talking points? Which is why you're attempting to float the moonbat asshat conspiracy theories of GOP electoral misconduct, despite overwhelming evidence that the Dems perfected the art of electoral theft?
If you're libertarian, then Ted Kennedy is sober, monogamous, and willing to keep a woman from drowning at the bottom of a river. Nice try in attempting to pretend that you're part of the losing coalition in the electoral landscape!
I do wonder what you guys are doing here, though. What's the point? Can't you find any friends in the real world?
Let's see...times that Paul has posted today (all evening times, EST):
9:51, 9:50, 9:42, 9:09, 9:03, 8:35, 7:56, 7:51, 7:47, 7:38, 6:56, 6:16, 6:06, 5:52, 5:49, 5:46, 4:59, 4:39, 4:34, 4:25
"Hello, Mr. Pot? I'm Mr. Kettle! Listen, you're a little on the dark side, aren't you?"
Piss off, moonbat. I'm going to bed so I can get to work in the morning to continue supporting some welfare brood mare in Detroit.
Where's my cheese grater?
Paul, seriously....You need help.
I'm awake, and ready to head to work. But, before I go:
I am a plainspoken guy. I mean what I say, and say what I mean. So, when I said "Piss off, moonbat", that's what I meant. I trust you enjoyed your stay, but it's time to go back to your homeless shelter, Paul.
Johnny, I know this is your blog, and you rightfully will do as you wish, but...
If for nothing else, but for the sake of discourse, may I call a time-out and a re-set?
I think, (I may be wrong, but I think I'm right), that Paul IS/WAS trying to join in on some fair discourse. I think, that after some of the replies, he replied in same. It seemed as though he was trying to make some good statements as some of the other, good and fair, "Left", posters that are regulars here. I think when he strayed from that, it was out of anger and self-defense.
I think you all know that I'm not one to defend moonbats in any way, but maybe we need to give him a chance to be a fair contibutor, beyond his knee-jerk posts against other knee-jerk replies to him. If he ends up being a TRUE kool-aid drinker, well, do as you will. But, can we try to give him a chance? Like I said, he seems like he can join in on intelligent discourse as other regular and respected, "Leftists", on this board do.
And, Paul...if I may say...we've seen SOOOOOOOOOOO many whacked out lefties, we get a little shell-shocked at times. I would bet that you'd be as embarassed of their statements as we are occasionally embarassed by statements of the Right.
Oh, and Paul, one thing...
I think you made mention of the GOP causing voting irregularities or some such. Well, being in Florida, where the Democrats repeatedly make these claims, it's funny to find that for everything the GOP MAY have done, there are 20 things the Democrats have done. (Especially in Palm Beach County.) The Democrats down here screwed with the election process. It didn't work, and then they tried to blame the GOP for doing the things they did themselves.
It was funny during the 2000 election, especially. You'd see a National Network News story, slanting the story to make it seem like the GOP was screwing around. However, the film was from a local station. When you saw THE ENTIRE story as done by the local station, you would see that there was MUCH MORE to the story. Either people showing how stupid they were, or how it was actually the Democratic Party screwing with things.
I was in both Tallahassee and Palm Beach County during the time. Many of the same things happened during 2004. Down here at least, what the Democratic Party accused the GOP of doing was either false, or if true, the Democratic Party did the same thing 100 fold.
Manic, the problem is that Paul is a moonbat and a half. He purports to be libertarian, then he peddles all of the Sheehan/Dean/Moore talking points (as well as defending them). No self-respecting libertarian would dare quote from or associate with or look up to socialist pieces of trash like them!
He also peddles his "GOP election fraud" paranoid asshat conspiracy theories, and I've got no tolerance for that at all. That whole "pot/kettle" thingee. You did a good job in outlining but a few of the scores of cases of Dem vote fraud. I could dedicate a whole blog to that alone.
He also tried to refute the "liberal MSM myth", which as anyone with half a functioning brain cell knows, is no myth. If he were libertarian, he wouldn't be so defensive of the MSM, would he?
Paul did make an attempt to discuss rationally, but when that "libertarian" said that Sheehan/Dean/Moore didn't deserve to be disowned or disavowed, and that the MSM wasn't liberal, that told me all I needed to know about him. I didn't care for his intellectual dishonesty or for his jumping from topic to topic. The name-calling was immaterial, since I don't lose sleep over name-calling.
That's why he was invited to piss off. Like Bill Clinton does with a mistress, I discarded him after I got my gratification and had no use for him anymore. I forgot to leave the money on the dresser, though!
Fascinating reading, y'all. I made a similar post about this disgusting hate letter on my blog, and the only response I got was from a Liberal who was insulted at the idea that the letter came as a result of extremism on the Left.
Odd, I thought, that he would be insulted.
Where else would that letter have come from? A Republican in favor of the war? Or maybe a kid whose parents told him that our war effort is a good and noble thing?
Seems to me that the Left doesn't want to admit that their tone and philosophy is bearing some bitter fruit.
Anyhow, this comment thread seems to have degenrated a bit. Interesting discussion, though.
Gee Paul: "I find the sorry state of geopolitics to not be a laughing matter."
No it isn't. That is why the current conduct of Defeaticrats is an abomination!
There are literally hundreds of millions of people with their lives on the line here.
And what positive contribution have you and the lefties made to the all important debate? I can't think of one. All I have heard from Democrats from Clinton, Dean, Kerry, Boxer, Kennedy, Pelosi, Murtha (I could go on and on and on) is that Bush made a huge mistake going into Iraq, we can't win. Our troops died in vain, blah, blah, blah.
When asked what they would do that Bush has not, they mutter something vague about doing exactly what Bush is doing, only better. Exactly how is never clear.
You should reread the recent statements from Senator Lieberman, who is a rare exception to the Defeaticrat model. He reminds us of the old adage: "Politics stops at the water's edge." Too bad he couldn't remind Clinton before he went to the Middle East and said Iraq was a "mistake."
Democracy is a mistake Paul?
Freedom is a mistake Paul?
Ending genocide is a mistake Paul?
Defeating terrorism is a mistake Paul?
As a people, we Americans have debated these issues IN DEPTH and decided them over the course of the congressional elections in 2002 and 2004. The result was that increasing numbers of voters decided to send GOP candidates to congress. The same was true for President Bush's re-election.
The people have spoken TWICE and yet you folks just continue an unrelenting campaign of hate for Bush and obstruction of the twice decided mandate for action in the war.
I would say that you people should hang your heads in shame. Yet somehow I don't think you people can register that emotion.
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