Cheese and Crackers: Comments
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Sorry, Bud, but your attitude about the death of someone, even if terrorist, is disturbing. A human being is a human being. When you begin seeing another man as less than human, you've lost part of your own humanity, and one might say that you've lost part of your soul.
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01.05.05 - 9:22 am | #
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Wooh!..Wooh!...Wooh!!!
It's not a sporting event.
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01.05.05 - 11:19 am | #
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E Del., I'm curious if you feel as sorrowful for the loss of innocent children killed by abortionists every day all year long? Probably not... You defend the life and continuance of terrorists, but not those truly innocent. What does that say about parts of your soul? All human beings are in fact human beings (as you so astutely brought to our attention). But every human's ACTIONS have consequences and some actions are so devastating, so dangerous, and so threatening to the innocent that they must be stopped - whatever that may mean. The terrorists have chance after chance to cease from their terror. You need to get some real truth man...
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01.05.05 - 11:20 am | #
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E Del-
The fellow he shot was not a human being. He was a terrorist bastard.
The terrorist bastard that he shot was loading a mortar round at the time, to launch at American Marines. Sounds like the perfect time to take him out.
I'm just glad we have such skilled snipers...
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01.05.05 - 12:22 pm | #
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Oh that's rich, E Del's email address is from a french domain... hahahahaha figures
Jordan Golson |
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01.05.05 - 12:22 pm | #
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nah ... nothing like the tsunali coverage. But I agree with the first poster: "Sorry, Bud, but your attitude about the death of someone, even if terrorist, is disturbing. A human being is a human being. When you begin seeing another man as less than human, you've lost part of your own humanity, and one might say that you've lost part of your soul." From the humanitarian effort to this? Sad.
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01.05.05 - 12:47 pm | #
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You sound like you're writing about a video game. Pretty sad. When we talk about killing people in the same way we talk about a great touchdown pass, how can we possibly pretend we're setting a good example?
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01.05.05 - 12:52 pm | #
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From the article:
Seen through a twenty-power spot scope, terrorists scrambled to deliver another mortar round into the tube.
The two terrorists were seconds away from killing more people. I wonder if these were also Arabic, not Iraqi?
Apparently you have to give the context or people will think you're bloodthirsty. In war, you don't have time to worry about the other side's lives. You have to win. Ironically, that attitude results in LESS deaths because the war ends sooner when you fight to win.
Plutos Dad
http://eyesontheball.blogspot.com
News Satire that can't be wrong it feels so right
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01.05.05 - 1:05 pm | #
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Jordan,
The terrorist was indeed human ... a human who chose to commit great evil, which is why I celebrate the shot. The terrorist deserved to die.
Puddle Pirate |
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01.05.05 - 1:11 pm | #
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I wonder if the person who thinks abortion has anything to do with this also supports the death penalty. My guess is yes.
Log on your blog |
01.05.05 - 1:44 pm | #
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I think that some people are just surprised to see your comments after the great things you did with the tsunami postings.
I am glad the our sniper killed the terrorists before they launched another attack.
I am sure you have a lot of new readers since your Drudge link, myself included, and they just have to get to know your style.
That said, time for me to actually go read the link you posted. Maybe others should try that too.
Great work by the way in the past 2 weeks.
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01.05.05 - 3:35 pm | #
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Thanks Steve, Republicans care about Tsunami victims too! Go figure!
I'll lose some readers... gain some readers... whatever.
It happens. That said, the Loony Left are welcome to visit whenever they like!
(Just don't call me a schlub)
Jordan Golson |
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01.05.05 - 3:57 pm | #
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"Doctors in Fallujah tell a U.N. news service that with two-thirds of the city's neighborhoods yet to be searched, more than 700 bodies have been recovered, and "more than 550 were women and children."
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/
...54b55118d85.htm
I suppose all those women and children were terrorists too. Woo Hoo, we killed thousands of women and children terrorists!
Truthteller |
01.05.05 - 4:30 pm | #
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The author of this weblog and the people he links to are proven liars.
If you want the truth about things check out the following web sites:
http://www.cursor.org
http://mediamatters.org
http://www.juancole.com
http://www.dailyhowler.com
If the webmaster had even an ounce of integrity, we would link to those sites on his main page, instead of linking to the serial liars that he is currently linking to.
But no, he lives in his little echo chamber, spouting off received wisdom, and practicing cognitive dissonance when it comes to anything that conflicts with his wack world view.
Repent, Repent, Repent!
Truthteller |
01.05.05 - 4:40 pm | #
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Jordan,
Why don't you put your right-wing "money" where your mouth is and "suit-up" to lead the soldiers and marines you cheer on so much?
You're so quick to talk smack about killing but unwilling to do the dirty work yourself.
www.armyocs.com - where real college educated men of action talk the talk and walk the walk.
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01.05.05 - 4:47 pm | #
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I am one of those "tsunami-readers", and thus I haven't read a lot of your "normal" blog writings. Hence, I don't know if you're ironic or serious in your "normal" posts..
Even though I support the "Iraqi Freedom Tour", I don't think you should celebrate takedowns of enemy soldiers like that. The ethics of war are hard to understand, especially for people who has yet to dress in a military uniform or see insurgents live in their neighbourhood. If you would mourn over one dead enemy, what is your reaction over one dead ally?
Still, I don't think you should light up your rockets because of a dead enemy.
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01.05.05 - 5:36 pm | #
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Why all this sympathy for a dead enemy?
We celebrated the death of Uday and Qusay Hussein. If Hitler had been tagged by a sniper at 1000 yards wouldn't our grandparents have celebrated? Granted, we don't know anything about the terrorist this marine killed, but we do know that he intended to kill (and may have already killed) American citizens. If that marine saved any of our own lives I bet most of us would have given him a high-five. Is it less appropriate to rejoice in his saving another man or woman's life?
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01.05.05 - 6:32 pm | #
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Andreas-
I am not celebrating the killing of an enemy, I'm celebrating the amazing snipe of a target at 1050 yards. It is quite a feat whether you are shooting at a target on a range, or a live target in theatre.
Jordan Golson |
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01.05.05 - 6:52 pm | #
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Truthteller,
Here is some truth for you, the people that killed all those women and children were the fallujan "insurgents" (i.e. terrorist baby killers):
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
art...59782_1,00.html
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/..._bloody_:
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Or read some blogs by Iraqis (not by Sunnis who are pissed off about losing power, but by others):
www.hammorabi.com
www.iraqthemodel.com
Your links are wrong about the Iraqis not being registered, they don't have to go to the registration centers, because' they're already registered through the food distribution program. Hmm a professor not doing minimal research? Astounding!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2004...s/
election.html
Also that link on juancole gives is funny: , aww the poor Sunnis, the people who want to rule over everyone else with an iron fist, are trying to stop the vote complaining? Awww poor Sunnis.
PlutosDad
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01.05.05 - 8:21 pm | #
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Jordan,
I see that you have conveniently side-stepped the question I directly pointed to YOU - why you are not enlisting to attend OCS or enroll in ROTC?
Chickenhawk talk is cheap, particularly when young warmongers like yourself are unwilling to join an Army that missed its Regular Army Recruiting mission by almost 50% during the last quarter and a Reserve that missed its mission by over 55%.
If this cause is indeed so noble, why shirk your duty in leading, coaching and mentoring young Americans as an Army officer? The current OCS selection rate is 100% and indicates that there is dire need for men of action.
Are you a man of action or just a big mouth unwilling to fight for the very neocon principles you espouse?
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01.05.05 - 8:23 pm | #
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IRR Soldier,
Why don't you go offer yourself up as a human shield for the terrorists? Oh sorry I mean the insurgents? After all, as you say, talk is cheap.
PlutosDad |
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01.05.05 - 9:24 pm | #
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PlutosDad,
Nice attack on me. You see, I served my nation for three years as an enlisted man and 4 years as an active duty Army officer. Now, after moving on with my life, I am liable to be stop-lossed past my 8 year obligation and "back door drafted" into uniform again for an "extra" 2 years.
Why must you equate anyone that questions Jordan's chickenhawk "bloodlust" as a terrorist sympathiser? I'm far from it. What I do know is that the Army desperately needs junior officers as there is a 100% selection rate to OCS and the Army Reserve only made 45% of its assigned OCS mission for FY '04. Moreover, the USAR is only 59% strength on Captains.
As you can see, we need men of action to lead fellow young Americans as Army officers and I want to know why Jordan feels he has no obligation to "come to the colors" when his country needs him for a cause he blindly supports.
As for my words being cheap - at least I've walked the walk. www.armyocs.com
IRR Soldier |
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01.05.05 - 10:23 pm | #
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Nice shot. Hope he kills more of those bastards. A good terrorist is a dead one.
ahem... I mean insurgents...sorry
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01.06.05 - 12:55 am | #
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CO-
Better them than me. Plus, you need to make sure your sights are zeroed in for sniper competition later on...
Jordan Golson |
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01.06.05 - 2:10 am | #
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Well if that's true I apologize. I thought you might be a typical armchair pacifist that is safe and secure here.
For my part, I tried to get in shape a few years ago to join the Marines, I also applied to the FBI and made it to their second stage of interviews. But didn't get in. Re: Marines, I got injured and am still injured, and since I'll be 34 in a few months it will soon be too late to get a waiver to get in. So I try to help the guys over there in other ways.
PlutosDad |
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01.06.05 - 2:32 am | #
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amazing shot!!
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01.06.05 - 3:15 am | #
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IRR-
You served, so what? I guess you have not addressed Jordan's views and only attack Jordan personally because your point of view can not be logically defended. You feel you must disqualify others from speaking because you are too cowardly to address the substance of the matter.
Your repeated ad hominem attacks on Jordan are tired and dull. Whether Jordan has served, plans to serve, or can serve is irrelevant. Let's talk about the issues, personal attacks are unacceptable.
Besides, there are many ways to serve one's country, and being a soldier is not the best way for everyone.
I have served in the Army and I do not object to people who have not served commenting on US foreign policy whether they agree with me or not. Jordan, ignore people like IRR.
Theodore |
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01.06.05 - 3:32 am | #
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BTW, IRR lacks credibility for two additional reasons (outside of his immature attempts to monopolize a discussion with ad hominem attacks):
1- IRR has whipped himself in to a hysterical frenzy over an irrational fear.
Getting called up from IRR is not "stop loss." IRR soldier's military contract was for at least 8 years (like all of us), and the time we did not spend active we spend as Individual Ready Reserve (IRR).
The number of IRR soldiers that have been called back has been incredibly small, and just a fraction of the number that were called up for the first gulf war. It is very expensive for the Army to call up IRR, they have to be retrained.
IRR soldier is not going to be called up (unless he speaks Arabic), and his self righteous indignation is out of line with reality.
2- He claims that he has moved on with his life, yet his posts transparently demonstrate that he has not. I count 9 mentions of or links to OCS or being an officer in 3 post. Gee, do you think
Theodore |
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(continued)
2- He claims that he has moved on with his life, yet his posts transparently demonstrate that he has not. I count 9 mentions of or links to OCS or being an officer in 3 post. Gee, do you think he wants us all to know that he was a big officer man? Mighty proud of himself it seems.
So IRR Soldier seems to know two things: personal attacks and patting himself on the back.
IRR-
If you have anything else to add to the discussion other than the fact that you went through OCS (we caught that), or that there are people who have not, I would really like to hear it.
Theodore |
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01.06.05 - 3:56 am | #
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Theodore, I would not be surprised if he wasn't in the army at all. Many people pretend, because they think it improves their argument if it's a soldier against the war.
Jordan Golson |
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01.06.05 - 12:13 pm | #
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Theodore,
Stop Loss occours when a soldier is kept past their initial contractual obligation, be it the active duty or inactive duty portion. Since my "eight years" expires in May of 2006 I would most certainly be stop-lossed if I were to be called up. Reason: Current Activation orders of IRR personnel are for 545 days plus 90 days demobilization/stabilization. Do the Math! It would come out to time served past my eight-year commitment and in effect, a stop-loss. Whether 2 months or 12 months, it is still a stop-loss.
Your lack of knowledge about what is going on with the IRR recall is upsetting, because you are shooting from the hip with no basis in fact. The Army has EXHAUSTED its supply of IRR Engineer Lieutenants and Captains and are almost out of Transporation, Adjutant General, MP and Quartermaster officers.
IRR Soldier |
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01.06.05 - 12:30 pm | #
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Theodore,
Your comparison of this IRR mobilization, which is just ramping up, to Desert Storm is intellectually dishonest in two key ways: 1) the length of time served by those recalled in '91 2) the purpose they were called up for and the time that had elapsed since they left active duty.
1) No IRR Recall in '91 spent more than 120 days in a recall status and none deployed to combat in theater. Most came and were released within 60 days of reporting.
2) '91 IRR Recalls were mobilized to serve as replacements for the anticipated 20-30,000 combat casualties. These casualties thankfully never ocurred (on our side at least). Today's IRR Recalls are not combat replacements but filling gaping holes in our force structure that have no one to fill them. I reiterate - the USAR/ARNG officer crisis.
3) Virtually all of the 14,000 '91 Recalls that showed up had been released from Active Duty within a year of being recalled. Today, we are recalling thousands that have not worn
IRR Soldier |
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01.06.05 - 12:38 pm | #
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...a uniform since Bush I or in some cases, Reagan was President. I'd invite you to check out the blog titled "Command T.O.C." run by an IRR officer that left Active Duty in '93. He is a Quartermaster Captain that is 42, seriously overweight and does NOT speak Arabic. If he is being recalled, I certainly can be.
The reason I mention OCS and ROTC is because I am providing ready links to apprise Jordan that 1) the Army REALLY needs Lieutenants and 2) that he too can serve.
PlutosDad,
It is NOT to late! The Active Army, Army Reserve and Army National Guard will enlist OCS candidates up to their 35th birthday. It is a simple waiver that is virtually 100% approved. The selection rate for all components is 100% right now and the Reserve is only 40% filled on Lieutenants. Give it a thought and link to my "homepage" for more information.
IRR Soldier |
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01.06.05 - 12:44 pm | #
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Only 5-6000 have been called up from IRR. About 20,000 were called up for Desert Storm. The period of service was shorter because the war was shorter.
Those people that have been called up after being discharged from the IRR were called up because they had not resigned their commission. You know that I'm sure, so you will resign your commission and you can have peace of mind.
Theodore |
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01.06.05 - 2:08 pm | #
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Theodore,
Not exactly. My central point is that in '91, the IRR Recalls were to be used as replacements for combat casualties NOT to fill vital Officer and NCO positions in deploying units. There IS a key difference in this. These individuals are linking up with deploying units before departing the US. In some USAR battalions tasked for OIF III, over 60% of the officers are IRR Recalls or cross-levels.
As for resignation of commission. That is up to the distretion of Human Resources Command even if one completes all eight years. Current policy guidance issued in November states that no reignations will be accepted unless an officer has served in Iraq/A'stan or has extreme personal hardships. Check it out for yourself at CPT Ed Quayle's blog at www.armysteve.com
This is just the beginning of the IRR recalls. The USAR only has 37,000 deployable bodies remaining in a force of 200,000 with few "MOS/grade" matches for what the Army needs. Expect at least 20,000 more IRR
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01.06.05 - 2:56 pm | #
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..recalls in 2005. Given the second and third order effects of our personnel crunch, we will hit the bottom of the IRR Officer/NCO "well" early in 2006.
As an aside, a childhood friend of mine is a '98 USNA grad and Navy Nuclear Submarine Officer. He is being "loaned" to serve in an Army Engineer Brigade in Iraq because WE HAVE NO MORE ENGINEER CPTs TO CALL UP!!! He will have a bachelors in civile engineering and 10-18 days of "welcome to the Army" training before deploying. We must look at this personnel crunch and encouraging intelligent, energetic and passionate young people (ie. Jordan) to serve as officers is one way of trying to fix it!
IRR Soldier |
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01.06.05 - 3:01 pm | #
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Theodore,
I have linked a great article on the IRR recall situation to the "hompage" link next to my name. I hope you check it out and it proves to be informative.
IRR Soldier |
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01.06.05 - 3:43 pm | #
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Oops... It's found at www.sftt.org and is titled "Breaking the Social Contract with Reservists."
IRR Soldier |
01.06.05 - 3:45 pm | #
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I know this man. I served with him, and I worked with him. He is not sanguinous as many of you would be led to believe. He is trained to do exactly what he did for the reasons he was given. Many of you ask if the man he killed deserved to die. It wasn't his call to determine if the insurgent deserved it or not. It was his call to make sure that our men did not die. Would any of you have any animosity do this man if that next mortar round that was fired hit your son or father or brother. Brothers and sons and fathers can rejoice with their families because of this Marine's action. He will have no regret, nor should he.
Galvan, AJ Lcpl |
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Semper Fi Lcpl. Thank you for all that you do. Please make sure that you and all the Marines and Soldiers fighting know that there are people back home who support them 100% and anything we can do, we gladly would.
Jordan Golson |
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Semper Fi is a revered term used among Marines. As an Army officer I would be out of place using it to address a Marine, let alone a civilian using it!
Is there anything "we" can do to support the Marines and Soldiers fighting? Yes! Join to Lead them - I did. The Army is desperate for college educated men of character to become LTs - hence the 100% selection rate for OCS. The Army Reserve is less than 40% of its required strength on LTs and 5,000 Captains short!
Believe me, there is no better "education" for a young man than to lead, coach and mentor 35 young Americans as a Platoon Leader. The commitment is only 3 years and the lessons last a lifetime...
IRR Soldier |
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01.08.05 - 6:27 pm | #
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I think this fellow is quite a hunter indeed. He belongs on one of those old "Wild Kingdom" shows brought to you by Mutual of Omaha. What does he do with his kills afterwards, though, I wonder. Dress them and tie them to the top of his pickup? Take them home and make Iraqi venison steaks? Put the jihadi head on the wall in the trophy room next to the bighorn and the mountain goat? These are interesting philosophical questions to ponder.....
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01.09.05 - 2:40 am | #
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Celebrating the death of an enemy.
I’m reminded of an old black and white film I see now and then. It takes place on a carriers flight deck during WW2. A gun crew is slugging it out with a Japanese suicide pilot and although the film is silent, you can FEEL each guy in that tub thinking “ohshitohshitohshit!!!”
When they at last nail the kamikaze, a sailor on deck is seen pumping both arms into the air.
Am I going to judge harshly that sailor for thinking “Thank God it’s you hitting the water at a couple of hundred miles an hour and not me, you miserable bastard?”
For the life of me I cannot understand anyone thinking any different….but some do.
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01.09.05 - 11:04 am | #
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James,
There is NO comparison to a kamikaze coming DIRECTLY at a carrier and a snipers kill at 1,000 yards none.
Yes, snipers are a necessity, yes I have fired the M-24 sniper rifle, no, I could never perform that duty myself.
There is just something very different about killing in such an anonymous way then when your life is directly at stake.
Sorry, I can't explain it much better than that.
IRR Soldier |
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01.10.05 - 5:22 pm | #
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IRR
Wasn't this guy preparing to fire a morter when he was capped?
btw, I'm a little rusty. Is the m-24 the single shot .50?
James Hooker |
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01.10.05 - 8:00 pm | #
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No, the M-24 is a Remington Rifle and predates the .50.
IRR Soldier |
01.11.05 - 10:36 am | #
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We never hear about the deaths of terrorists but here are cases in which terrorist are taken down by a sniper the liberal left-wing news media will never tell this
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