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Gravatar Tina Fey is a national treasure.


Gravatar for sure
and sarah palin is a national rubbish pile


Gravatar Tina Fey...so much smarter than the original!


Gravatar It's not the Fat Lady you hear singing, it's Tina Fey!!!!


Gravatar Tina Fey says she doesn't do impressions, no she inhabits.

There's a big profile on Queen Latifah
in this week's New York Times Magazine.


Gravatar Best......McCain......sticker.....ever......


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Gravatar Tina Fey is truly a national treasure!!!
Any reason i cant hear nothing watching the video??

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Gravatar I am SO sore!

This is probably the best routine SNL has done in a long while, if ever.

Go Tina Fey Go!


Gravatar Best line of the sketch:

"I believe marriage is meant to be a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers."


Gravatar Geezer / C*unt sticker (1:29 Steve link, above) needs "Cunt" in quotes


Gravatar Wow. Q Latif has a 2nd career option.


Gravatar The way to tell Tina and Sarah apart...Sarah winks with her left eye, Tina, her right.

And all hail the Queen! Queen Latifa is always amazing. Love her as Gwen Ifil.


Gravatar Fey eviscerated Palin.

She covered everything that Palin did that annoyed the hell out of me (and millions of other "elites") during the debate.

The writing was smart and funny.

Yhe only thing I would have left out was the flute. It had already been done all over YouTube.


Gravatar Sticker Graphic: "Cunt" in quotes

Yeah, the word needs to be in quotes. That changes the meaning entirely. (McCain called his wife a cunt in public, for those who don't know.)


Gravatar Sarah Palin is Tina Fey's bitch!!!!!

Meanwhile ...

NEW SARAH PALIN INTERVIEW!


Gravatar Perfect! Ms. Fey is absolutely amazing (actually all three were awesome).

"I tolerate them with all my heart." Priceless.


Gravatar It makes me laugh and then fills me with sadness. It's barely an exaggeration, just taking what Palin says and repeating it. It's unfortunate she even has a chance of being V.P.


Gravatar I laughed so hard. Tina Fey is a comedy god. The whole "It tolerate them with all my heart." and "I don't know any personally, I know of them." was priceless. A bonus, Anne Hathaway as Julie Andrews was brillant. The voice was perfect. Best opening.


Gravatar HA! LOVE the bit about marriage being "a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers."

Did anyone have a bingo card with every square filled with the word "Maverick"? What was the final count of how many times it was uttered.

Love Queen Latifah's expressions. Oh gawd save us.


Gravatar J(AO): I blacked out by the end of it.


Gravatar Good enough that Meet the Press ran a clip of it. Gwen seemed to like it well enough.

Can't help but notice the sock puppets and their helpers haven't commented yet. Does this mean the RNC does not pay for weekend work?


Gravatar Geez, a perfectly good thread that some people have to ruin by using the misogynist version of the n-word. Aren't there enough bad things about Palin to call her without resorting to reducing her to her genitals?


Gravatar Best Palin skit yet!


Gravatar I think this debate was better and more accurate than the original! Yeah Tina Fey and Queen Latifah!


Gravatar Excellent piece! Fey is totally Palin (except that Fey is MUCH smarter and learns her lines more quickly).

Latifah a perfect Ifil - but I missed seeing the her name in the credits.


Gravatar "Best line of the sketch: I believe marriage is meant to be a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers."
--Phil


Followed of course by Biden's remarks about gays having the same rights as straight people, but being against gay marriage.

"I do think they should be allowed to visit each other in the hospital, which is almost the same if not better."

I am so glad SNL was willing to point out that hypocrisy.

Tina Fey is a goddess.


Gravatar Hopefully they will keep it up.

Since Palin is on the "Obama pals around with terrorists" bullshit.

People need to see the bullshit that is the McCain/Palin ticket.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Fortunately, Obama has 2 more debates that are NOT about foreign policy so hopefully his rise in the polls to election day will continue as people see McCain/Palin for the hypocrites they truly are....


Gravatar and i thought the repiggie had reached rock bottom with george w. bush...tina fey is brilliant, much more so than sarah palin. the choice of palin is an indictment of the wildly disastrous judgment of john mccain.


Gravatar "Geez, a perfectly good thread that some people have to ruin by using the misogynist version of the n-word."

C.M.: Steve linked a bumper sticker. I gave the it the benefit of the doubt and interpreted it to be lacking the bit of punctuation that would make clear--it's getting harder these days, as we drop capital letters and punctuation online--that it was quoting 'Cain himself to his wife McCindy.

"Aren't there enough bad things about Palin to call her without resorting to reducing her to her genitals?" (Same for the 'mctrollop' McCain mmcarried but insisted on mccalling that mccanyway.)

You might've been scanning too quickly to catch this but, if not, you should probably not look at the recent New Yorker cover cartoon featuring the Obamas in drag or the another-step-removed Entertainment Weekly cover w/ Colbert and Stewart. You do know that Colbert itself is satire, right?

Now that I've replied, I find that you've probably been mocking/baiting the over-sensitive yourself by pretending to take their position. Ah.


Gravatar Mocker-baiter, I am well aware of what satire is. I seriously doubt that the maker of that sticker is, though. There was no indication anywhere that the word came from McCain, and even if there were, it just isn't funny. Let's be real...that word gets tossed around on here all the damn time by so-called progressives who just don't get it. Cunt=Nigger=Faggot. There is no difference. I don't believe in banning speech, but I do believe in calling out bullshit when I see it.


Gravatar my friends refert to be affectionaly as various forms of the c word.


Gravatar I get the bumper sticker, it's funny and much
deserved. If you don't know that McCain called
his wife a "cunt" is your lack of knowledge.


Gravatar Geez, a perfectly good thread that some people have to ruin by using the misogynist version of the n-word. Aren't there enough bad things about Palin to call her without resorting to reducing her to her genitals?

You mean tthat CUNT Palin? She's reduced her campaign to the fact that she has ovaries and uses them against better judgement.

If she can call Obama a terrorist I think I'm doing her a favor by pointing out her only redeeming quality....her CUNT.

We've been down this road before on JMG... she's more than a pitbull with lipstick....She's a CUNT. She earned it.


Gravatar P.S. Using her "special needs" infant as a photo op prop only confirms her ethics....Yup....CUNT!
If it looks like a CUNT....
And quacks like a CUNT....


Gravatar So if Obama was a jerk, he'd deserve to be called a nigger? That's your logic, Tex.


Gravatar Never said that...you went there not me Christopher. You were just ITCHING to use the "N" word as you called it.
Racist much? What exactly is your logic?
She's still a CUNT.


Gravatar No, if Obama was a jerk he'd deserve to be called a jerk. He'd only deserve to be called a n##*er if his only reason for being on the ticket was the color of his skin and he was playing that to the hilt. Obviously, that's not the case with him and the parallel is, most decidedly, the case with Palin. If she weren't a female neocon with the instincts of a shark and the subtlety of a pitbull she'd still be handing out checks to the willing citizens of Alaska and basking in the popularity that second-hand generosity brings her, instead of winking and mugging and lying her way across the national political landscape.


Gravatar You can call Palin whatever you want, babaycakes, a pitbull in lipstick is a pitbull in lipstick. And if Obama was a mugging, empty-headed, dogmatic neocon, i'd use words alot worse than ni**er. Palin makes smart women look bad. She makes feminists furious. She is worthless to the political process.


Gravatar From Dictionary.reference.com

CUNT--a contemptible person.

NIGGER--a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.

By this, not only is Palin a cunt, but she is also a nigger. Obama, though he is black, is not either.


Gravatar Sorry. C*NT is a hateful word. It's not just "a contemptible person" no more than the other word mentioned is accurately defined.

Set your misogyny and immaturity aside and find a way to criticize Palin for her many criticizable facets. Her vagina isn't really one of them.


Gravatar Douchebag, bitch, no good piece of bible thumping shit, witch, miserable wench.....

nah, cunt works just fine as far as I am concerned.


Gravatar Boy, this thread descended quickly into dreck. Hey, let's all debate when it's appropriate to use the c-word and n-word! I vote never.


Gravatar I agree, Hal. Unfortunately, many of our gay friends here who would boycott someone for using faggot, and who would never consider it socially acceptable to say nigger in a context other than one discussing the use of racial/sexual epithets seem to have no problem using a word that by its most basic meaning reduces a woman to her sexual organs. It is disgusting and sexist, just as the n-word is disgusting and racist. Tex and the others can make all the excuses they want, but it doesn't change the fact that all three words were used and are still used by the straight white male power structure to keep people like us in line.


Gravatar Hmmm, if people reduced ME to my genitals by calling me a "Big Ole' Dick", I'd probably thank them!


Gravatar Christopher a cursory review of your blog shows more than a passing interest in racism and even an inner debate of the "N" word. Also by coincidence the use of the word CUNT by gay bigots.....Interstingly that tells me you have a strong inner conflict.
I'm neither racist, sexist, or overly misogynistic. However when a candidate's only redeeeming quality is being a "pitbull with lipstick" then turns around and tries to Swift-boat" the national discussion, then claims her own family is "off limits"....Bitch puleeeze.
"Her gloves are off....her heels are on" She was hired to do the job McCain found to dangerous to do himself.....A cunt is a cunt and she qualifies.


Gravatar I have zero idea how you could come to the conclusion that my interest in issues of race and gender and the large segment of bigoted people in the gay community somehow indicates I have an inner conflict over race. I think you may be projecting.


Gravatar Visa Verified: ChrisM not a racist.

Tex is a troll?


Gravatar "So if Obama was a jerk, he'd deserve to be called a nigger? That's your logic, Tex."
--ChristopherM

"Never said that...you went there not me Christopher. You were just ITCHING to use the "N" word as you called it. Racist much? What exactly is your logic? She's still a CUNT."
--Tex

I cannot say whether ChristopherM is racist or not, but I would say his use of the word nigger in the above sentence was not racist. It is not racist the way the word nigger is not racist in "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" or "To Kill A Mockingbird."

You may disagree with ChristopherM's conclusion about you Tex, but he used the word nigger to make a point about your use of the word cunt. He did not "use" the word nigger the way you have been "using" the word cunt. Mark Twain and Harper Lee were not using the word nigger to insult anyone, but to make a point about how certain words are hurtful and bad. The same with ChristopherM using the word nigger to shame you into not using the word cunt.

Many people have asked you to stop using misogynistic words to attack someone whom you disagree with. Even Bill O'Reilly managed to violently disagree with Barney Frank without resorting to using the word faggot. He would have been attacked for such bigotry, as you are being attacked here.

I know you cannot be reasoned with because bigotry cannot be "shamed" out of someone. I will defend those you attack though. Why can you not be more like Band? He vehemently loathes Palin but as far as I know has never used the word cunt to attack her. His arguments are usually based in facts and personal opinions about policy, not bigotry and hatred.

Whenever I disagreed with Bush's actions I would be labeled a traitor or unpatriotic by those that supported him. It never silenced me, just like your dishonest tactics and accusations will not silence any of us who do not like your hateful posts. JoeMyGod may not see fit to ban you for your bigotry, but the rest of us here certainly can do our best to put you in your place every time you use certain hateful words.


Gravatar Joey, you just said all that needs to be said, and I need say no more. You get it. Too many gay men just don't.


Gravatar I'm sorry this thread has been hijacked by those arguing about a different link altogether...but back to the SNL skit, even a (fairly moderate) Right-wing blog I read ("Know thine enemy") was taking bets on exactly which aspects of the Veep debate would be mocked by Tina Fey...they would never admit it, but they probably find it amusing, themselves.


Gravatar Search for "bitch" on Christopher's blog.

Apparently he has no problem with misogynistic language—when he's the one spouting it.


Gravatar To my thinking "bitch" is closer to "n*gger" than "c*nt". As "n*gger" doesn't refer to a body part.

But just to clarify, if "c*nt" is the equivalent of "n*gger", and neither are acceptable, then it should follow that these words are also off-limits:

*Pussy
*Dick
*Asshole
*Twat
*Cock

I'm not sure if "douchebag" is still acceptable, it refers to a device used with sexual organs, but is not actually a sexual organ. "Fuck" and words derived from it may not be acceptable either. It doesn't refer to genitals, but does refer to their use... Any thoughts?


Gravatar Oh lord you people don't get this. This is not about washing your mouth out with soap. It's not about naughty words. It's about objectifying people in a way that belittles them by using words that have a historical ability to empower the user at the expense of the usee, built on a history of inequal power relationships. If there was no such thing as sexism, and the demeaning of women by a sexist society, "cu*t" would not be a problem. It's impossible to remove these words from their historical/societal context.

If you're a man, especially a gay man, and you think sexism is wrong, you should stop calling women "cu*ts", bitches, or whores. Period. This is not a new idea, it's not rocket science. It's easy. Get over it.

On the other hand, since everybody has an asshole, those of you who think it's clever to call women, even right-wing demagogic corrupt women like Palin "cu*ts", not only are you tragically misinformed about your own cleverness, but you're also complete... assholes.


Gravatar Should we all be like Maude instead and go out of our way to say nice things about Palin, since she is a woman, and Obama, since he is black?

I can think of no better word to describe Palin than CUNT.
BTW, I supported Hillary in the primary, sexist I am not.


Gravatar Well anonymous, since your reading comprehension is so poor I would imagine your self-awareness is equally poor. I think you are a sexist, dude, and using the word "cu*t" is proof positive of that fact.


Gravatar Getting away from the appropriateness/political correctness of certain words for a moment... the only problem that I have with Tina Fey's portrayal of Palin is that Fey's native intelligence and sense of humor shows through; unlike the person she's portraying/parodying, she comes across as human. If Palin had one tenth of one percent of Fey's charm, this race would be a lot closer than it is.


Gravatar "Search for "bitch" on Christopher's blog. Apparently he has no problem with misogynistic language—when he's the one spouting it."
--Band

I did a search of the main page of his blog. I found 6 examples of the word bitch and its derivatives.

2 were used in a pejorative manner in reference to women.

1 was used in a complimentary manner in reference to a woman.

2 were used in a complimentary manner in reference to musical groups which included both men and women.

1 was used in a pejorative manner in reference to himself.

I did not read enough of the blog to determine without a doubt that ChrisopherM is a raging misogynist like Tex, but I still think these uses of the word bitch do not disqualify him from calling Tex on his bigotry.

Band, please do not tell me Tex has corrupted you and convinced you the use of possibly the most hateful word against women is acceptable when describing Palin. As far as I can remember you have never used such hateful language. Continue to denounce Palin, but please do not join the hateful chorus out there. You are better than that Band.


Gravatar Yep, Palin's a cunt.


Gravatar "Yep, Palin's a cunt."
--Band


Nooooooooo. That thinking and hate speech is going to lose the election for Obama. Stop it. For all we know Tex is trying to give Obama supporters a bad name. Do not fall into that trap if you truly support Obama.


Gravatar That Palin is a cunt has nothing to do with Obama or the election. And my calling her one isn't going to change what happens on Nov. 4th.

It's simply a fact.


Gravatar Yup....slice and dice all you want...she's still a CUNT!


Gravatar I tried, I really did. Sadly, "gaping bleeding slimy hatchet wound" did not fit on the sticker as well as CUNT.
Oh well.


Gravatar oh such clever little boys.


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