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You're kidding right? rolflmao
You really think, there would be a legal precedent for closeted gays not saying right out they are gay, for real?
I don't think the issue would revolve around Clay being gay, but the premise of a potential lawsuit may have very well been presented as false advertising.
All conjecture of course, since, as has been stated numerous times, no one but the 9 fans, RCA, Clay, and the attorneys would know the facts of all this.
I don't think the issue would revolve around Clay being gay, but the premise of a potential lawsuit may have very well been presented as false advertising.
Because he is gay. It would always have to go back to him being gay, period.
All I'm saying is that it's not folly to accept the *possibility* that a payout might have occurred.
Having said all that I have on the matter, I really don't give an owl's crap one way or another, but can't deny that I'm just in the mood to just shoot the shit, lol.
All I'm saying is that it's not folly to accept the *possibility* that a payout might have occurred.
Pure folly.
There's an advertisement on here for Scientology. Is John pushing Scientology now? Is anyone else seeing it?
Because he is gay. It would always have to go back to him being gay, period.
Well, yeh, the gay thing would part of the thing, since he went so out of his way to drop hints that he was straight.
Sorry, but that's true, and there's no getting around it.
If these fans were so invested in supporting him because they believed him to be straight, and because he dropped those hints on numerous occasions, then it could be said that he went out of his way to offer a persona that was false, in order to draw in fans to buy his stuff.
I can assure you that a really good attorney can put together a case on lesser things than this, lol.
I can assure you that a really good attorney can put together a case on lesser things than this, lol.
GJAC - JP MINION! | 08.01.09 - 9:31 pm |
Sure they could, but would they. Would they be able to win in this day and age? Guess we'll never know since the 9 were only thinking of themselves and were chicken shit. LOL.
John uses a 6 year old picture of
clay and a 20 year old picture of himself. LOL.
I'm confused. 40 months? This blog has only been operating since February.
Yeah. Scientology, John? That's really out there.
It got quiet.
I think they're at the Clay Blog on the other site. Gonna be confusing for a while.
You have got to be shitting me! Your blog is nothing without Clay. Clay gives you a reason to get up every morning. You jerk off to Lover All Alone.
How is the garden going, sweet Brynn? I love hearing about your own little Walden.
I refuse to click onto THAT link!
John, John.................what happened to your new website? you said NOT A NEW BlOG. yelled it, and now you're directing us to a new blog? What happened to you new website?
Because he is gay. It would always have to go back to him being gay, period.
Well, yeh, the gay thing would part of the thing, since he went so out of his way to drop hints that he was straight.
Sorry, but that's true, and there's no getting around it.
If these fans were so invested in supporting him because they believed him to be straight, and because he dropped those hints on numerous occasions, then it could be said that he went out of his way to offer a persona that was false, in order to draw in fans to buy his stuff.
I can assure you that a really good attorney can put together a case on lesser things than this, lol.
GJAC - JP MINION! | 08.01.09 - 9:31 pm | #
the weakest case I have ever heard of. feeling in a litigious mood? no lawyer on the planet would take such a frivolous case.
John John is having a meltdown. He realizes he is nothing without Clay. Poor John John. You need to move on and do something constructive with your life. Maybe you could plant a garden. Maybe you could work for a hospice.
I can assure you that a really good attorney can put together a case on lesser things than this, lol.
GJAC - JP MINION! | 08.01.09 - 9:31 pm | #
I know many, many lawyers and none of them would waste their time on such stupidity.
I do worry about your good mother, though. How is she doing in her temporary living quarters? I hope you take her out to brunch tomorrow.
From the previous blog regarding the settlement with the 9 ex-fans who wrote the letter to the FTC:
“Since this was only 9 ex-fans, can I sue now if I want to?
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 7:34 pm | #”
I think that it’s too late, since Clay changed his image since the settlement occurred (and because of the settlement).
“Why didn't more disgruntled fans sue?
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 7:36 pm | #”
First, there never was an actual lawsuit, only the threat of one and the letter to the FTC was simply to show that the ex-fans were very serious about pursuing legal measures. That step was enough for RCA/Clay to realize that it was necessary to settle to shut them up and avoid a PR disaster. As for more disgruntled fans? There may well have been more, but there has never been any public disclosure about those individuals.
“Sue for what?
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 7:37 pm | “
The issue was false advertising, based primarily on Clay misrepresenting himself as a straight man.
“Since this was only 9 ex-fans, can I sue now if I want to?
I don't think there's anything stopping you, however he's now openly come out now and that sort of mitagates your cause of action.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 7:49 pm | #”
I agree that it’s probably too late for a suit, but enough fans get together, who knows?
“I'd say there were only 9 pissed off fans smart enough to get what they could out of it. LOL
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 7:59 pm | #
So, who believes this could still be a secret in Clayland?
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:02 pm | #”
If details of the settlement were to become public, it would become null and void. It’s enough to know that there WAS a settlement, and the events of the past few years should enlighten anyone who is willing to think reasonably as to why a settlement was made.
“Doesn't seem to be too big a secret. It appears on the FTC site. Various media reported on it and Chexxy at one point claimed to know who at least 3 of the ex-fans were.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:04 pm | #
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No last names ever. kinda hard to settle.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:05 pm | #”
Surely you don’t believe that letter was the only documentation/action regarding this issue? Suffice it to say that RCA/Clay regarded the threat of a suit as sufficiently important to settle with the ex-fans and prevent any further damaging and embarrassing publicity.
“I'm sure they do it because they know they will get a reaction.
Summer | 08.01.09 - 8:06 pm | #”
No, it is simply an event that occurred in the saga of Clay and his Claymates that made a significant impact on Clay and the image, which was so important to his popularity. Since it is a fact, I present it as such and understand why there are people who disbelieve, but if they think about everything that has happened, they should at least accept that a settlement is a likely possibility. If you read the posts, they are not baiting, only regarded as such by Claymates.
“unless the various lawyers know more than what is actually filed.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:06 pm | #
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HUH? That's really stupid.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:08 pm | #”
No, it’s you who are “stupid” if you believe that letter was the only action taken in this case.
“HUH? That's really stupid.
Why? You think lawers and authorities don't comunicate or know more than what is immediately filed in preliminary documents or complaints?
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:10 pm | #”
Exactly.
“This was an FTC complaint, not a civil suit. So, again STFU. you sound STUPID
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:12 pm | #”
It never came to a suit. There was a settlement to avoid any further publicity.
“This was an FTC complaint, not a civil suit. So, again STFU. you sound STUPID
No, it's you who sound stupid. The ex-fans press release stated their complaint was prior to and in anticipation of a civil suit.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:15 pm | #”
Again, exactly.
“In that Clay has admitted noweveryone around him knew he was gay way to back to AI, in hindsight the complaint does seem to have some weight since their second thing is "collusion to misrepresent" and says that RCA employees including Roger W, and John D knew about Clay's sexuality and worked to hide it from the public.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:20 pm | # “
Absolutely.
“I can see where RCA would be anxious for that to all go away and settle quietly.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:23 pm | #”
Of course. It was in their best interests to settle quickly and quietly, once they knew that the ex-fans were dead serious and willing to publicize their “case” and pursue it further.
“You can? Really!
I can where RCA would be laughing their asses off at the stupidity of it all.
Brynn | 08.01.09 - 8:27 pm | #”
Whether a civil suit would have been successful or not is not the main point here. The publicity during such a case would be extremely damaging to Clay’s image and RCA/Clay recognized that image was a large part of his popularity (=$$$$). At the very least, Clay would probably have been outed, along with his penchant for hooking up, which would also have contributed towards the false advertising claim. That may not have led to the ex-fans “winning” their case, but the damage would have been done. The only practical option was to settle, which they did.
“I don't know. When it can be proven that your employees acted in a way that exposed you to a potential lawsuit, whether you felt the merits were ridiculous or not. That you would potentially have to pay money to defend and could actually lose? I'm not so sure that you wouldn't be anxious to be rid of it.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:30 pm | #”
Exactly. Regardless of the merits of the case or its potential to be successful, in the process, Clay would be outed (and other damaging behavior would be revealed), so avoiding that exposure was a compelling reason to settle.
“I'm not so sure. Just like the FTC complaint was filed against Clay, but his record label. I'd think any settlement would be with the label (or their insurers) and not Clay.
So any agrements in that regard would still be binding.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:33 pm | #”
I think that you are correct, but not knowing the exact particulars of the settlement, the terms of the settlement regarding confidentiality are only known to the participants who were involved.
“That's sad that those 9 fans only cared about themselves and not all the other ex-fans that were hurt by what Clay is. That no other ex-fans tried anything is amazing.
Anonymous | 08.01.09 - 8:48 pm | #”
It’s not known if there were more than the 9 ex-fans who wrote the letter to the FTC. There may very well have been a lot more, but they were not known publically.
“Who did they settle with? Karen G., Mary P., Susie Q.? Is that who the checks were made out to? First name, no last name.
You're not thinking outside the box.
1. The women no doubt retained attorneys.
2. The FTC complaint possibly was a kind of warning shot to RCA, iow, at this point, the attorney(s) for the women no doubt were now engaged in communicating with RCA/RCA attorneys.
3. RCA perhaps saw the reality that the potential for a civil suit existed, perhaps even some kind of legal precedent, if they didn't take the FTC complaint seriously.
4. The details no doubt were worked out among all the attorneys involved, including the actual names of the women, so an out-of-court settlement was reached, enabling checks to be paid to the women using their actual names.
I haven't a clue as to what actually occurred, but the fact is that there's an item relating to this on the FTC website, so it definitely brings up the possibility that an out-of-court settlement may have occurred, obviously an action that would leave no publicly visible paper trail.
Under-the-table payouts occur when the payee(s) have no desire for something to go to court.
GJAC - JP MINION! | 08.01.09 - 9:03 pm | #”
Thank you. Someone who understands how the real world works.
“If anyone really believes that a FEDERAL case was settled out of court to a handful of anonymous people without there being any kind of documentation are frigging loons.
Brynn | 08.01.09 - 9:18 pm | # “
You still aren’t getting it. There never was a “federal” case or a pursuit of the FTC complaint. The letter to the FTC (leaked to the media) was more than enough for RCA/Clay to settle quickly and quietly, for the reasons already explained in the many previous posts.
“I can assure you that a really good attorney can put together a case on lesser things than this, lol.
GJAC - JP MINION! | 08.01.09 - 9:31 pm | #
I know many, many lawyers and none of them would waste their time on such stupidity.
Anonymous | 08.02.09 - 12:52 am | #”
In this case, the lawyer(s) for the ex-fans appeared pretty savvy, since a settlement occurred soon after the “warning shot” of the letter to the FTC (which was all that ever was).
there was no settlement
New Reed Kelly site - with connection to Clay pics:
http://coolspotters.com/models/r...dels/reed-
kelly
I don't care for the new site so I guess this blog is going to die off.
I must be one of the few fans who aren't overly enthusiastic about RK. Oh well, it's not any of MY business.
The new blog has a really bad layout. Not crazy about it myself.
I don't like RK either. Or the new site. I'll still keep talking Clay stuff here.
The new sites won't last.
JP will come back here.
He always does.
The new sites won't last.
JP will come back here.
He always does.
Anonymous | 08.02.09 - 12:29 pm | #
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Just like those FSers always come back with their pre-written FTC complaint posts, why they are so adament to have people beleive that happened is a real mystery.
What if there is no Reed and Clay?
“Who did they settle with? Karen G., Mary P., Susie Q.? Is that who the checks were made out to? First name, no last name.
You're not thinking outside the box.
1. The women no doubt retained attorneys.
2. The FTC complaint possibly was a kind of warning shot to RCA, iow, at this point, the attorney(s) for the women no doubt were now engaged in communicating with RCA/RCA attorneys.
3. RCA perhaps saw the reality that the potential for a civil suit existed, perhaps even some kind of legal precedent, if they didn't take the FTC complaint seriously.
4. The details no doubt were worked out among all the attorneys involved, including the actual names of the women, so an out-of-court settlement was reached, enabling checks to be paid to the women using their actual names.
I haven't a clue as to what actually occurred, but the fact is that there's an item relating to this on the FTC website, so it definitely brings up the possibility that an out-of-court settlement may have occurred, obviously an action that would leave no publicly visible paper trail.
Under-the-table payouts occur when the payee(s) have no desire for something to go to court.
GJAC - JP MINION! | 08.01.09 - 9:03 pm | #”
Thank you. Someone who understands how the real world works.
Anonymous | 08.02.09 - 8:29 am | #
Double thank you. The real significance of the action (or proof if you will)is that something important did occur. The bracelet came off and the gay-friendly went on(Teno jewelry) and that restyling of Clay was the next we saw of him. It doesn't matter whether or not the women settled or got any money out of it. The important thing is things changed and Clay was much less obviously denying he was gay.
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Do you know the site sucks?
Just sayin' 
At the very least, Clay would probably have been outed, along with his penchant for hooking up, which would also have contributed towards the false advertising claim. That may not have led to the ex-fans “winning” their case, but the damage would have been done. The only practical option was to settle, which they did.
Anonymous | 08.02.09 - 8:27 am | #
You were doing well presenting your case until this. Had you left out the lies spewed by JP and his crew you would have been far more believable.
You lose.
The only practical option was to settle, which they did.
Anonymous | 08.02.09 - 8:27 am | #
How do you know they settled?
does anyone have the link to the board where there are ex-fans bitching about Clay? it was posted here a long time ago. thanks.
Anonymous you are the same lying crazy person who has brought this up numerous times. Did you copy and paste because word for word it's the same BS you posted before. This gets you an audience which you so desperately need.
How do you know they settled?
How do YOU know they didn't? A settlement is the only reasonable guess one can make from the evidence at hand. Clayhags love to claim that the complaint was somehow "thrown out" or not taken seriously, but that can't be true. It's still viewable on the FTC site, so it's obvious that the agency took it seriously. The complaint never was adjudicated by the FTC one way oe the other. Why? The only reasonable answer is a settlement.
The important thing is things changed and Clay was much less obviously denying he was gay.
Not just "much less obviously." The filing of the FTC complaint marked the beginning of Clay's abject refusal to directly confirm or deny being gay. Did he still try to pass himself off as straight? Absolutely, but this time by making vague, open-ended, statements that Clay knew his old ladies would understand as denials of being gay, even though in fact they weren't anything of the sort.
I told all the old ladies back then that Clay was using this technique so that he could someday claim that he hadn't directly lied to them about being gay, and then point out that it wasn't his fault if they misunderstood or misread his vague statements to mean what they wanted them to mean. Of course, this is exactly what happened.
New Reed Kelly site - with connection to Clay pics:
Like Reed Nelly actually has any fans.
I told all the old ladies back then that Clay was using this technique so that he could someday claim that he hadn't directly lied to them about being gay, and then point out that it wasn't his fault if they misunderstood or misread his vague statements to mean what they wanted them to mean. Of course, this is exactly what happened.
Chexxy's Diaper | 08.02.09 - 7:54 pm | #
Which board were you posting on at this time, Claymate?
Like Reed Nelly actually has any fans.
Chexxy's Diaper | 08.02.09 - 7:55 pm | # ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Reed's biggest fan is Reed. He loves himself. You can tell by the way he's always posing for pictures. He's annoying. Nice body. Homely face.
We are here: http://johnpaulus.com/
That CD, he just can't get over Clay Aiken.
I for one won't click on his new blog.
I hate to be an enabler.
Reed's biggest fan is Reed. He loves himself. You can tell by the way he's always posing for pictures.
Anonymous | 08.02.09 - 9:22 pm | #
I kind of think this myself. One of the reasons I don't really trust the guy.
He seems to play to Clay fans or tease them. And takes 20 million pictures of himself with his shirt off.
There's just something about him....that's "me me me me".
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