document.write("<script language=\"javascript1.2\" type=\"text/javascript\">function emo_pop() {window.open('http://www.haloscan.com/commenthelp.php','Help','width=200,height=320,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes');}</script><table width=\"97%\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" class=\"MainTable\">  <tr>    <td>    <div align=\"center\">    </div>    </td>  </tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"47974\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=c3eead372279700156d2b0591d982d4b&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=G&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />I would love to think it hasn't happened, but given Aetogate, I suspect it happens regularly to grad students of any gender.  <img src=\"http://www.haloscan.com/images/smileys/pascontent.gif\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"15\" height=\"15\" /><br><br>That said, one of my former coworkers,whom I will call T, left us: she went to an HPC site in the UK, actually and last I heard married a Brit (eeeewwww).  Part of the reason was she left here was, despite having a degree, despite being one of the hardest workers, despite this being an institution that has uber biases to people with degrees, she was the lowest paid staff member in our group.  Lower than I and I am <i>without</i> a degree at all.  T worked her tail off and got nowhere.  I spoke up for her, frequently, about this, but it didn't help much.  *sighs*  At least she found a place she's happy at...last I heard.<br><br>Whole thing was ridiculous.  And sickening. I hope it doesn't require a passing of a generation before we get this problem fixed.<br><br>Sorry, venting.  Good thing I have some stainless steel to cut.  It's mean back at me so I don't have to feel bad when I abuse it.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Will Baird | <a href=\"http://thedragonstales.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://thedragonstales.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 03.07.09 - 7:42 pm | <a href=\"#47974\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"47980\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=675dd9704e97166e35d9e5e91561efe7&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=G&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />That's a good point Will.  I wonder if the outcome of the \"quest for equality\" has resulted, not in women being given the same opportunities, pay and promotion as men, but in men being shafted as much as women in lower positions.  Bring it all down to the lowest common denominator?<br><br>I have to say, I have not seen as much of a gender divide in science in the UK as I did in the US.  In my department, my postgraduate tutor is female, very senior, and runs an entire inter-university research lab.  Our only professor (\"professor\" being a title reserved only for the most senior of senior academics) is female.  I have two exceptionally successful female role models.<br><br>Cambridge was the same - many very good, senior academics of both genders.<br><br>My stress toy of choice is a 60 litre bag of compost.  It's always so compressed flat that it needs to be given a good kicking to fluff it up again.  Man, that's satisfying!<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Julia | <a href=\"http://www.ethicalpalaeontologist.com\" title=\"http://www.ethicalpalaeontologist.com\">Homepage</a> | 05.07.09 - 11:16 am | <a href=\"#47980\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr>    <td class=\"InputCell\">                  <br /><div style=\"margin: 0 auto; width: 234px;\"><a href=\"http://js-kit.com/?hsad\" target=\"_blank\"><img src=\"http://www.haloscan.com/images/jskit-ad-banner-small.png\" width=\"234\" height=\"60\" border=\"0\"/></a></div><br /><div id=\"newcomment\"></div><form method=\"post\" name=\"addComment\" action=\"http://www.haloscan.com/comments/juliasaurus/291456177568429791/\" target=\"_self\">        <p>    Name: <br />          <input name=\"name\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Email:<br />          <input name=\"email\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          URL: <br />          <input name=\"url\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Comment:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"javascript:emo_pop()\" title=\"Smiley and tag help\" target=\"_self\">?</a>&nbsp;<br />          <textarea name=\"addMessage\" rows=\"12\" cols=\"38\"></textarea><br /><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"subscribe\" id=\"subscribe\" value=\"1\" /><label for=\"subscribe\">Notify me of followup comments via email</label>        </p>        <p class=\"PSubmit\"><input name=\"submit\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Publish\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />&nbsp;<input name=\"previewMessage\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Preview\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />        </p>      <input type='hidden' name='user' value='juliasaurus' /><input type='hidden' name='comment' value='291456177568429791' /></form>    </td></tr>  <tr>    <td><p align=\"center\">        Commenting by <a href=\"http://www.haloscan.com/\" target=\"_blank\">HaloScan</a></p>      </td>  </tr></table><img src=\"http://c5.statcounter.com/counter.php?sc_project=561713&amp;java=0&amp;security=01eeff58\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" /></body>");