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We're on the same wavelength. I posted on this movie this morning after seeing it on Fox TV news last night.
You can find more on it on FoxNews.com and FrontPageMag.com too.
Rastaman
www.islamanazi.com
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Sat 29.Jul.2006 - 21:28 | #
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Thanks for the tips. Updated the post. The links I put up actually go to the video-google version of the doc. Watched it twice now. It is really good, if a bit (well, a bit much) disturbing. Looking to get a copy of the DVD.
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Sun 30.Jul.2006 - 16:25 | #
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Thanks for posting Klein Verzet!
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Wed 02.Aug.2006 - 12:04 | #
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Look, watch, study, learn, and live - or die if you refuse to learn. This is a clash of civilizations, and we are in the middle of it.
People, this is some very scary stuff. If we don’t wake up and realize our very civilization and lives are at stake here, we are destined to vanish from the face of this planet. Don’t believe me?
Keep defending Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, and Hamas, and see how long you live if you refuse to stand up against the Islamofascists. This is the most serious threat of our modern times. If you don’t believe it, then you are just blind, deaf and dumb.
Thank you to Honest Reporting for making these videos.
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Wed 02.Aug.2006 - 15:00 | #
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Holger,
It never ceases to amaze me that people simply refuse to accept the obvious. They act as if Hizbullah et alia are just kidding, don't know what they're saying, etc.
The painful truth is that these extremists don't make a secret out of their ambitions at all. We just have to listen to their own words, to know the truth about them.
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Wed 02.Aug.2006 - 22:10 | #
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Klein,
Unfortunately Google have pulled the movie, so the link is dead now. It is not available anywhere that I can find. Please can you e-mail me immediately if you find a link that works. thanks
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Fri 11.Aug.2006 - 11:04 | #
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Same goes for me, could you let me know as well? This is frustrating, the movie seems to have disappeared.
Michael van der Galien |
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Fri 11.Aug.2006 - 12:28 | #
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Alexandra, Michael,
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be on the look out and will email if I find it.
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Fri 11.Aug.2006 - 15:02 | #
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I still haven't found it. You? As I understand it, they have taken it off due to copyright.
I'm waiting for it to be sold here in the shops, in The Netherlands. When it does -> i'll get myself a copy immediately (don't have a creditcard, don't want one either).
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Thu 17.Aug.2006 - 22:05 | #
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> I still haven't found it. You?
Nope. Devoted a couple of sessions to tracking it down, but it seems to be completely vanished. You'd expect somebody somewhere saving it to HD and mirroring it. Me, for instance. But noooo.
>I'm waiting for it to be sold here in the shops, in The Netherlands.
I'd be surprised if it ever gets ot Dutch shops. Too radical for the masses. Might have to go the credit card route after all.
(Besides, don't know if you plan to do traveling in the future, but can't do it without one, I've found. Killing two birds with one stone and all that).
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Ha, I have travelled, I just choose the 'difficult way' -> I don't get at all why people should borrow money, pay interest, while they have the money to pay for it themselves.
It's illogical and stupid to be honest.
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Fri 18.Aug.2006 - 12:49 | #
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Anyone bying into this "clash of civilizations" propaganda, is just as guilty of swallowing BS as the Nazi Youth. Here is a wonderful, accurate, and inciteful review of this film:
Documentary Review: Uncovering the Obsessions of “Obsession”
by David Shasha
“Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West” (Wayne Kopping, 2006)
The problem with properly assessing propaganda and rhetorical excess is that often in the attempt to beat back the dangers inherent in unthinking ideologies the response to propaganda can itself paradoxically turn into propaganda.
It must be stated at the outset, as the ideas that are raised in any analysis of the Jewish attack on modern-day Muslim civilization are sure to be brutally contested, the basic facts of the realities that the propaganda film “Obsession” is based on:
• The contemporary Arab-Islamic world contains within it anachronistic and reactionary elements that proclaim violence against the non-Muslim world and against even those Muslims who do not abide their literalist readings of Islamic traditions, both written (Qur’an) and oral (Hadith and Shari’a).
• The Imperialist incursions of the Western European powers in the 18th century and the subsequent dismantling and ultimate defeat of the Ottoman Empire after World War I has led to a deeply strained relationship between the Arab world and the Western world.
• In recent centuries Arab-Muslim civilization has had a prolonged and often contentious battle waged between liberal modernists and atavistic traditionalists. The line between these groups has often been blurred with the institution of Western-approved dictatorships and/or kingdoms in Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia which have formed a bulwark against both the modernists as well as the religious extremists.
• The case of Iran broke this Western hegemony and marked the first time a Muslim theocracy succeeded in establishing itself in the Middle East. With the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979, a beachhead of Islamic fundamentalism was established, thus creating a new political template in the region.
• Emerging from the Iranian Revolution was a cadre of anti-Western Mujahadeen that had become implicated in the larger schemes of the US Reagan administration against Soviet Imperialism. Islamic extremists in Afghanistan and elsewhere found themselves embroiled in the anti-Soviet Jihad that was in the main supported and encouraged by Washington.
• The natural enmity of the Muslim Jihadists for Soviet Communism did not ultimately preclude their anti-American animus; a matter that was conveniently forgotten by Reagan and his advisors. The Machiavellian strategies that produced the desired results against both the Soviets in Afghanistan as well as in what was called the Iran-Contra affair is something that has made concrete the power of the Jihadists in the region.
• The greatest Arab power in the region in recent years has been Saudi Arabia which has funded a
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...continued here: http://www.theamericanmuslim.org...s_of_obsession/
PLEASE READ!!!!
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The video is accurate and powerful in it's message. I highly recommend viewing.
I do, however, have a problem with it's distributor. I received this dvd as a gift and have since been contacted via phone for surveys, and have received text messages from one "kartikasurabaya". This is a gross invasion of privacy by the entity that took payment /shipping information and distributed my contact information without my express permission.
When visiting the movie's website and reading the information link to "Take Action" you will notice that this company affiliates with organizatinos identified as following 'moderate' form of islam. There IS NO SUCH Thing MODERATE ISLAM! In the strongest terms I can possibly post, I advise against giving out any personal identifying information to that site. Proceed with extreme caution.
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plan to see it
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