Please don't type in all CAPS, it's the equivalent to YELLING, let alone hard to read, thank you.
I'm very sorry for the loss of so many lives, but until a religion reforms itself and removes the elements of fascism within it, there will always be Al-Qaeda.
G
Deepest sympathy to families of all who died in terror attacks. I agree with G religous fundametanlism will always breed hatred, intolerence and terror. Islam must be reformed and modernized so good people can be saved from this religous madness and its horrific consequences.
BTW, Kurdo, what is this "Hawler" thing? Arbil is an ancient city that goes back to at least 3000 years. Why is its name being changed to "Hawler"? Isn't this cultural Kurdification and a form of cultural "ethnic cleansing"?
I would understand giving Kurdish names to newly constructed villages and new city districts, but to change an ancient historical name of a city to a Kurdish one is really offensive and should be outlawed.
Islam or religion didnt' create Al-Qaeda. Al Qaeda is winning if people just assume, oh Islam, or Islamic extremist again. You start to get this negative image any time you hear Islam. Al Qaeda is comprised of humans who have lost what the idea of humanity is, they have lost their hearts. I am deepy sorry again for those who were killed and hurt. Why do they attack Iraqis? Did Iraqi's do anything to them? Iraqi's helped progress of their country from ruinned. I will never accept these acts, I will always hold my head high and be happy I know none of the saddness these people must have felt.
I'm so sorry for your loss my friend. Is there any website that lists the names?
Sorry, Rich, but Al-Qaeda represents the purest form of Islam - Wahabism. Everything that Al-Qaeda believes and does is strictly in accord with Islam and is supported by fatwas issued by orthodox Islamic scholars. They won't stop until we are dead or they are.
My sympathies to the victims, their families, and to the Iraqi people!
Mountaineer,
Kurdish people always called Arbil "Hawler". Some city names get changed after Saddam came to power even the ones in South.
I may be wrong, but when someone says Hawler in Iraq, we know he/she meant Arbil.
Kurdo,
Even though I have been sort of arguing here, I am really sorry for the deaths. I think of the families going on, and wish them the best.
Sorry, Rich, but Al-Qaeda represents the purest form of Islam - Wahabism
Islam got along without Wahabis for 1,100 years or better. How the hell do you manage to convince yourself that a relatively recent mutation is somehow the "pure" form?
About the name of "Hewlęr", lol, it is just the Kurdish pronunciation of the ancient name "Arbailu". Aramaic people say "Arbailu", Arabs say Irbil..When I speak French or English I say Erbil or Irbil, but when I speak Kurdish I say Hewlęr, probably because Kurds like soft consonences and Erbil sounds a bit harsh... Hewlęr/Erbil is mostly inhabited by Kurds for centuries and centuries... as mentionned many muslim geographers like the famous Yaqut. So "ethnically cleaning" this city would be quite useless...
Ignorance is the enemy of Freedom.
Blind obidiance is the devils chewtoy.
Well then, Rich and Ronin, what does that say about those who worship a pagan moon god according to the dictates of a savage, murderous, pedophile "prophet"?
Kurdo:
The suicide bombers are almost certainly not Kurds, and are highly unlikely to be Iraqis at all. They must, however, be receiving some support among the local population while they prepare their attacks. Can't the Kurdish militias and the police root these people out?
"About the name of "Hewlęr", lol, it is just the Kurdish pronunciation of the ancient name "Arbailu"."
LOL! Do you even know what -pronunciation- means? I think not...
Sandrine & Fayrouz,
I said "cultural" ethnic cleansing. This has the smell of the "Arabization" policies of Saddam. Changing city and street names seems to be a method used by the KDP and PUK to "Kurdify" every where Kurds live. This is wrong. Period. Historical and cultural heritage of the land must be upheld and not falsified. The Kurds today live on a land that was inhabited by great non-Kurdish civilizations. Attempts by the Kurds to erase that historical culture is not civilized. The Kurds must be above this kind of cultural piracy. In the US, native Indian names of cities and regions are still protected to this day, like Chicago, Mississippi, and many others. It is just the civil thing to do.
And "Hawler" being a soft pronounciation of "Arbil" is just not convincing at all.
Well if I follow your thought, everybody must say New Amsterdam and not New York... And Lutetia but not Paris...
Kurds are not recent inhabitants in Mesopotamia. As Iranian speakers, they probably came there about on 6th century B.C with other Iranian tribes... not exactly new migrants.
You have only an American point of view, you don't realize that in Middle-East many communities have their own language and call cities in a different way. If PUK would like to arabize their city they wouldn't say Sulaimanieh... And until now, "cultural, political, physical ethnical cleaning" was only the fact of Arabs, Turks and Persians in Kurdistan. Christians and Turkmens can speak their language freely and have their schools, newspapers, parties, and so on... We have never seen the same gracious tolerance from their dear neighbours...
I say buzz off to Kurdistan or whatever you want to call it. I see no connection to any of you, if you feel so strongly you have to live together, then just do it. The only time I was ever insulted in the most extreme manner by being called a "racist," it was some Kurd. As far as I'm concerned, you're as alien as Israelis, because you choose to be. So wall yourself in, and go back to those mountains of yours. We have our own, from the Atlantic to the Gulf.
And, by the way, my own direct ancestors created muslim Iraq and built your "Sulaimani" - check your spelling; it's Sulaymania. The language at the time it was created was Arabic, the language of the holy book, the language of art and science. Not some mountain dialect of Farsi.
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