Please don't type in all CAPS, it's the equivalent to YELLING, let alone hard to read, thank you.
Kurdo, It sounds like this was a pretty big deal. Oddly, I haven't seen anything about it in the news, and I was looking for it because you mentioned that it was going to happen. Weird.
Maybe the reason there wasn't much coverage in the West was because there was no violence. So in this case, no news is good news. But I still would like to have known more about it.
Hello Kurdo,
I notice the march for independence this weekend has given you a warm heart and hopes. I think (know!) your people deserves it's own peacefull haven on this world. But... but... but...
Read some of the buts here I can think of... If you like of course...
Grtz
Good luck Kurdo, I'm 'fraid your "independant Kurdistan" advocates are cruisin' for a bruisin' as the saying goes here in the States, gonna get you guys in a major mess, but I wish you peace and luck with whatever happens.
please excuse the crudeness, but it seems like Turkey is "balls to the bandsaw" over the issue
Kurdo,
This insistence on an independent Kurdistan is going to lead to Civil War if you people aren't careful.
You can either have peace, or you can have an independent state with civil war for the next few decades.
What I can tell you is that you won't be getting any support from Americans. If you are looking for sympathy from Americans for your cause then you are barking up the wrong tree.
Americans are concerned with the plight of Kurds, but if you choose to bring civil war upon yourselves then the blood will be on your hands, not ours.
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Also, you should understand that this separatist movement is a slap in the face an insult to America. Demonstrations and discussion is fine since that is a right of any free society. But insurection will not be viewed kindly by the US.
The coalition removed Saddam and his tyrant regime, and are trying to pave the way for a peaceful, representative government that will represent all Iraqis. Even if this does not include everything you want it is still ten times better than what you had before.
As far as Turkey is concerned, be warned: If you make America choose between Turkey and Kurdistan we will choose Turkey. The US government will not sacrifice our relationship with Turkey over this matter.
Hi Kurdo,
I hate saying this, but I would caution "free Kurdistan" advocates to treat Turkey very carefully. This is the country that massacred 1.5 Million Armenians under too-similar circumstances (www.endgenocide.org/genocide/armenia.htm). If I were in Iraq, I wouldn't trust Turkey to ignore the Kurds.
And as much as it pains me to say this, I can't see the US--especially the current administration--intervening to protect the Kurds from Turkish invasion. As long as Incirlik is open to NATO, the US will only stand by and file diplomatic protests.
I don't see the Turks whipping up another Armenian-style genocide in Kurdistan, but they will invade, and they will make life very bloody: Turkey won't let Kurdistan exist, and Kurds will not back down. It's a no-win war for both in a region where no-win wars have been fought all too often.
I do wish you and all Kurds the best, and hope you will find a peaceful solution for all.
~Shawn
I don't see America trying to do anything except keep Iraq together and free. I cannot imagine that we would stand around and let the Turks destroy Kurdistan. I'd like to know why people here think we would?
Kurdo, another thing to consider if the Kurds should seperate is oil. Isn't a lot of Iraqs oil, therefore wealth, located in the Kurdish regions? The rest of the country would not want to give up these badly needed revenues. A Kurdish state as a part of Iraq may be a possibility.
Kurdo Unit,
We are the Borg. Resistance is futile.
You the Kurdo unit and other Kurds will be aborbed into the Iraqui Collective. Resistance is futile.
Your wishes are irrelevant. The Kurds and their knowledge will be added to the Collective.
Kurdo,
It's not a real popular position here in the States anymore, but here goes...
Independence--go for it. If yall are willing to sacrifice, fight and die within the bounds of the territory that you claim is rightfully yours, then do so.
I believe you to be right that Turkey is in an untenable position regarding Kurdistan. Its desire to join the EU doesn't permit any kind of violent reacyion to an independant Kurdistan.
Nothing comes close to the blessings of liberty, except maybe independance.
"Live free or die" -
General John Stark, Manchester NH
Kurdo, I think you and other Kurds are thinking much like the Confederates did here in the US 160 years ago. They were fed up with the federal government and wanted to seperate from the rest of the union and form an independent country. Well, as you may or may not know, the Northern states weren't too happy about this and waged a vicious war with them (the most vicious in the history of the US). Believe me, there is a serious risk of civil war when 1/3 of a country wants to be independent from the rest of it. It isn't worth risking so many lives for when peace is so close at hand. Please don't delude yourself into believing that an independent Kurdistan can be formed without significant bloodshed. Is it really worth it?
Chris from NH: Isn't that your state moto? Of course, in the context of the Kurds in Iraq, it seems they have had relative freedom over the last few years and are worried about losing them. Since there haven't been any threats to their freedom (yet), I would recommend to them to be patient and only raise arms if their freedom is infringed upon by the future government of Iraq. I'm sure they will have their own militia for years to come and be fully capable of defending themselves.
"the Northern states weren't too happy about this and waged a vicious war with them (the most vicious in the history of the US)."
The US Civil War (1860-1864) saw some 600,000 dead and the result was that the North won and the separatists (the South) lost.
Kurdistan, if independent, will be surrounded by Iraq, Turkey and Iran, which who will all be hostile to the Kurds. It will be landlocked and isolated. Most oil fields in Northern Iraq will almost certainly fall into the hands of Iraq instead of Kurdistan because Iraq will will have a large army to secure those fields.
An independent Kurdistan is a losing proposition, one which is dead from the start.
What about the situation of Arabs, Turkmen, and Assyrian Christians in northern Iraq? There were bloody activities in those parts back in World War I and during the 1930's. What can be done to prevent them happening again?
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