isn't everybody in New York jewish? except for the guys who play for the Knicks, of course...
isn't everybody in New York jewish? except for the guys who play for the Knicks, of course...
dont know...
dont know...
Now what? I'm looking at all these kudos for Spitzer, and especially being "jewish" and now I wonder how he has embarassed his Jewish parents, his jewish community, and Jewish New York? Where in Jewish law does it state that he can persecute others for hiring hookers, but yet he can indulge in hiring hookers and think in his Jewish arrogance he can get away with it? Hmm, I wonder what his Jewish wife, and Jewish 3 daughters think about good old Jewish dad now?
actually, his wife is not jewish (she's a blond baptist from the south). spitzer appears to be one of those self-hating jews who wanted to boast a trophy, waspy wife. no doubt the the rest of his jewish family (and jew yorkers in general) will blame his downfall on his goyishness and having married outside of the "faith" (gawd). he's so creepy looking - like many jews, he looks like a rodent.
If Spitzer was a Fundy Christian he would have been caught with a gay male prostitute instead.
In the end, if politicians got caught every time they did a hooker, there wouldn't be many politicians at all.
THIS IS JUST TELLING OF THE HYPOCRICY THAT EXISTS IN THE LIVES OF THESE SELF RIGHETEOUS POLITICIANS, EVANGELIST, ETC.....THEY HAVE SPENT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES DERIDING THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR "SINNING" AND IN THE DARKENESS OF NIGHT, ENGAGE IN THE SAME BEHAVIOR. I DONT CARE IF SPITZER HIRES A PROSTITUTE, OR THAT HE IS JEWISH, I DO CARE THAT HE HAS MADE HIS NAME RIDING ON THE BACKS OF THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS.
THIS IS JUST TELLING OF THE HYPOCRICY THAT EXISTS IN THE LIVES OF THESE SELF RIGHETEOUS POLITICIANS, EVANGELIST, ETC.....THEY HAVE SPENT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES DERIDING THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR "SINNING" AND IN THE DARKENESS OF NIGHT, ENGAGE IN THE SAME BEHAVIOR. I DONT CARE IF SPITZER HIRES A PROSTITUTE, OR THAT HE IS JEWISH, I DO CARE THAT HE HAS MADE HIS NAME RIDING ON THE BACKS OF THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS.
Sptizer's not a real Jew. His wife is not Jewish
Spitzer is not only jewish but also his entire circle of friends is jewish; the shakers and movers included.
And that is fine, one can have any friends he chooses. Like so many Jews, hungry for money and power, Spitzer made it clear that Martin Luther and countless great minds of the last two millenia were correct in describing jewish charachter; full of lies, greed, manipulation, deceit, self destraction-to put it very, very gently. And then they cry, O!Yoy, yoy!
Countless antisemites are not at all hungry for money and power. Get a life, jerk.
and countless antisemites are not at all hungry for money and power, get a life jerk.
wow! They breed antisemitism well in Kentucky!
Said blogger of this blog is Jewish...
Spitzer is like the rest of us - human. We all make mistakes, and he has messed up big time. What is essential to know is that if you believe you can damage, believe you can fix (Rebbe Nachman from Breslov). Spitzer is clever and driven, so can recover from this calamity, and return to his career and his Jewish nation.
So Eliot Spitzer is Jewish. I am too -- and so is Billy Crystal, Goldie Hawn, George Burns, Barbra Streisand, Joe Lieberman. So what?
As with all people, there are good Jews and bad Jews and everything in between.
Let's take his religion out of the picture and judge him for what he is: a power-mad person who has cast his wife and daughters into hell.
it makes me sick to see the antisemitism posted here.
Jew Yorkers? we're all hungry for money and power?
"Spitzer made it clear that Martin Luther and countless great minds of the last two millenia were correct in describing jewish charachter; full of lies, greed, manipulation, deceit, self destraction-to put it very, very gently. And then they cry, O!Yoy, yoy!"
what an amazing display of ignorance; you should be ashamed at your own stupidity. a previous poster seems right in saying that they certainly do breed anti-semites well in Kentucky...
For the record, the guy posting with references to Luther posted from Long Beach, CA.
And I have not deleted any comments on this post, whether I agree with it or not.
For the record, I have friends and family that are Jew Yorkers (it's one thing when a Jew says it but when a goy says it, that means problems).
The anti-Semites writing here are no less evil than what they are writing about. What Spitzer has done has nothing to do with his ancestry, but what you anti-Semites write think probably does. Spitzer will pay dearly for what he has done and his family will suffer. Shame on you.
Right! one has everything he wants (Professor, Lawyer, psychatrist, and so on so forth) just because he is some-er, some-man or some-stein. Isn't it great!
You don't like this? you are definitely anti-Semites!
"What Spitzer has done has nothing to do with his ancestry?"
What if they team-up to control the entire legal system to protect themselves to do whatever they want to do and to get rid of whoever says NO to their dictatorship?
"For the record, I have friends and family that are Jew Yorkers (it's one thing when a Jew says it but when I goy says it, that means problems)."
Goy, ha, ha.
Such a cute put down.
I have heard that Kentucky is a backward state but never knew how anti-semitic they were. Yikes! Kentucky is one place I don't want to visit!
"mafia" and "nice" are the same person...
Robin...most of these commenters ARE NOT FROM KENTUCKY.
I firmly believe that Eliot Spitzer has done no wrong at all, and the whole story will soon be exposed as having been started by Mahmoud Ahmedenejad and his band of anti Semitic holocaust deniers. Let Eliot Spitzer know that we of the Flat Earth Societie fully support him.
This is a man committing a crime. Noone argues if Charles Manson is Lutheran or Episcopalian.
It is a very sad state of affairs when those in high political positions can not be trusted to uphold high moral standards. Teaching and practicing common decency and values of good grounding seem to have gone by the wayside; just read some of these blog entries, for example. Yes, Spitzer is a nasty man and may always has been. Sad to see so many nasty men hiding behind good women or blogs. Unfortunately we still learn of the ugly things they have on their minds. Maybe we do need more good women in politics; and perhaps they will be the ones to use the brains under their scalp.
"The anti-Semites writing here are no less evil than what they are writing about."
Splendid logic. Whatever the -ers did, are doing and will be doing are not evil; Whatever the non -ers commented on the deed are definitely evil!
This guy Spitzer shows lots of sheistyness. I had assumed that he was Jewish and guess what? I was right!
Isn't everyone who is writing here doing so because of a curiosity into whether or not Spitzer was/is Jewish? How else would you happen upon a 2004 story and blog if not because you asked, "Is Eliot Spitzer Jewish?" All of you who think that his crimes can be blamed on his religion or culture are the real losers. Does not Judaism teach the ten commandments? Any of you who write anti-semitic comments or even think them, or any other racist and bigoted thoughts, are the ones who have no education, morals, values or compassion for humanity, and you would be the ones to fear most in politics and in life in general. Eliot Spitzer may be one arrogant fool, but take a good look at yourselves and you will find this and more and all that is wrong in the world.
Spitzer a Jew, that's what Jersusalem Post says and they are upset that they had high hopes for Spitzer, that he would have become 1st Jew President of US. (so they can than totally wipe out Arab lands and peoples).ah!!! another corrupt Jews comes to mind who could not keep his _ick in his pants, Wolffowitz!!
When will we learn not to trust these ISRAEL-FIRSTERS who have infested our USA.
Just watch the Zionist run "US" media shove this issue under the rug very quickly just like they did for that another Jewish crook Wolfowitz.
Vulgar term -
The term "Jew Yorker" is deragotory, insuluting and inflammatory. It should not be used by anyone, Jewish or not.
Jews have the greatest responsibility to foster and espouse morality and decency in the world. Our practice of behaviors anything less will always give gentiles more fuel for their anti-Semitism.
Spitzer, Jewish or not, has demonstrated the inevitable path and demise for the arrogant seekers of glory, power and honor. His insatiable appetite for power and control reveals an intrinsically insecure man, whose spiritual roots need much bolstering and redirection. Let's draw some lessons from his behavior - our misplaced faith and reliance in our creative powers and that of mankind, i.e. democracy, capitalism communism, etc., can only lead to destructive practices.
Get off your high horse, Boruch! everybody has "the greatest responsibility to foster and espouse morality and decency in the world." Get out of your "Chosen Ones" mentality. In this current era you Israelis/Jew guys look like the chosen followers of Hitler what with all the atrocities you inflict upon Palestinians and Arabs. There is no "Jewish" morality and decency there. So lay it off, Moshe!!!
Joel...accusing us of following HE THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED?!? Your comment has just you banned from commenting here.
I am glad to see another Jewish politician go down. Tom Lantos was another idiot that died. I pray to Jesus that Senator Feinstein would also go down for her husband corruption to Iraq.
I did a Google search and it appears that Eliot Spiter may have contracted herpes or HPV Genital Warts from one of the escorts.
Roger Levin has been banned from commenting at this blog, if that is his real name. Free speech only goes so far and wishing ill will on our politicians WILL NOT be tolerated.
As a Christain, Im appaled at all the anti-semitic comments made to former Governor Spitzer. Can not his lewd behavior be applied to people of another faith, color or ethnic group? It appears there are alot of small-minded, ignorant people are there. Remember: God blesses those who bless The Jewish people. If you people hate Jews so much, stop worshiping one!
Look up "Semite" in the dictionary before you go trying to capitalize on the word. If you mean anti-Jew say it for the love of sheep! The word anti-Semite is used to obfuscate and of course to suffuse an ideology with the veneer of race. This is naturally dangerous and is boiler plate Zionist propaganda. Jews are not a race. But of course we'll fight you if you pull this irksome little thread cause we know it means the unraveling of our precious Israel and the sense of superiority that is so hard for American Jews to Eschew. "Self-hating" or not. Doh!
Hugh, what planet are you living on? Anti-Semite is a noun whether you like it or not and the fact that you went to this blog to cut down someone's faith makes me wonder as to what your true feelings about Jews are...
Get a life.
Shock keeps me returning here. I lived in New York City for 17 years; it is the most awesome city for any young person wanting to live, learn and experience life amongst all kinds of people. One cannot help being shaped into a more compassionate, open minded and tolerant person, living amongst ever race and religion. If this is not your experience, you did not LIVE in the city (a city) long enough to lose your inbred attitudes. Prior to my time in NYC and afterwards, I've lived in much more conservative places, and never have I heard these ugly things being said and written about Jews in any of the places in which I've lived, midwest-east. While I am not Jewish, I have family and many friends who are, and the things written here are offensive to those of us who are non-jewish as well! All I can say about those of you writing all these anti-semetic rants is that NYC would eat you alive with these thoughts! You might, however, be lucky enough to emerge a better person. Ignorance is a sin.
I HAVE TO CONFESS THAT THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A STRAIN OF ANTI-SEMITISM HERE, HOWEVER, I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT NO ONE IS EXCUSING OR OVER LOOKING WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE BECAUSE HE IS A JEW, THAT WOULD BE AS BAD IF NOT WORST THAN SOMEONE WHO IS LINKING HIS BEHAVIOR TO HIS JEWISH ETHNICITY.
No Daniel I don't believe my comment on your open blog is anti-religious. Again this is a standard Zionist response to legitimate criticism. Why not think about the criticism a second before jumping to these prescribed reactions you've likely been inculcated with?
If you mean Anti-Jewish then why not say it? Really think about that for a second. Why would you need to use the word "Anti-Semitic" , a vastly more confusing word? There are lots of words in the dictionary that are added every year and some that are left for an old English dictionary as they are used less frequently and so forth. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that language is fluid and not fixed and completely subject to trends and so forth. Lets think about when the word "Anti-Semitic" was coined? And for what reason?
Words are important and they can serve to imprison and oppress by misleading people. My argument is that the word Anti-Semitic" is a misleading term that confuses and oppress and stifles legitimate debate. Not something that is worthy of the great Jewish tradition of inquiry and understanding.
This isn't about religion as much as it's about a political machinery that pollutes religion. Hijacks it I'd say. You're clearly a died in the wool Zionist so I'm sure you'll disagree. But I hope you'll consider my argument.
By the way thanks for being so open on this blog and allowing discussion. Much needed.
H.
Where have you been living, a different planet? Because where I come from, ANTI-SEMITISM is derogatory language directed towards people of Jewish descent. Look it up!!
Well I guess you're sort of proving my point here Daniel. What do you mean by "Jewish descent"? Are you telling me that something deemed anti-Jewish is offensive to me even if I don't practice Judaism? Even if my parents practice Judaism? Would such an offense pertain to, say, Sammy Davis Jr? A black practitioner of Judaism but clearly of African "descent"?
Furthermor are you suggesting that something that is called "Anti-Semitism" doesnt pertain to the majority of Semites (again you can look it up) in the world who don't practice Judaism? Well then I'd suggest you use a more accurate word such as "Anti-Jewish". What's the big deal? Why would you be so affraid of using a word that is far more accurate to describe what you are talking about?
I contend it's deliberate cause you or rather those who taught you to use such a word are affraid that people might legitimately have reasonable criticism of an ideology of choice such as Judaism but not be able to leverage complaints if Judaism were blanketed in the unalterable concept of race. Which any third-grader can plainly see it is not. By simply opening a dictionary.
I live on the same planet as you Daniel and simply ask you to consider if aything of what I'm saying has merit.
-H
ugly to use his religion in this at all....
how absurd to think that he is an adulterer and a law breaker because he is a jew...
if that were the case, then our prisons and whore houses would be filled with jews...
but they are not....
huge shame for his parents, who are no doubt holocaust survivors or have fled some sort of persecution in Europe...to come to america where their children would be free from antisemitism...
they didnt know, there is no such place....
Hugh...YOU'RE WRONG and I am OFFENDED at your comments!
I Can't remember. Is Bill Clinton Jewish?
What a sad world we live in. Can one not remember the good that Eliot Spitzer has done for America. If not, let me inform you:
"During his time as attorney general, Spitzer was a man on a mission. His prosecutions against Wall Street criminals and others catapulted him to the pinnacle of media prominence. Time Magazine named him "Crusader of the Year" in 2002 and the tabloids dubbed him "Eliot Ness" or the "Sheriff of Wall Street" for his moves to clean up corporate corruption and organized crime. It was his time spent at the attorney general's office that Spitzer had the greatest impact on Wall Street. Let's now examine some of the biggest scandals he helped break.
Research Report Scandal
Spitzer began to make his mark on the financial services world in 2002, when he reached a settlement with 10 major investment banks and brokerage houses for their roles in inflating stock prices.
The investigation started with Merrill Lynch and eventually expanded to a dozen other big-name Wall Street firms. The charge was that these firms issued positive research reports on various stocks despite weak underlying fundamentals. They then encouraged their brokers to use the false research to promote the stocks. These efforts created artificial demand for the stocks, pumping up the prices and generating profits for the firms that sold them - the same firms who were issuing the reports in the first place. (To learn more about pumps and dumps, read The Chinese Wall Protects Investors Against Conflicts Of Interest and The Rise Of The Modern Investment Bank.)
Merrill Lynch handed over 30 boxes full of printed emails. Spitzer and his team then combed through them for evidence that the bank was pumping up bad companies. One famous example came when a Merrill Lynch research report from December 21, 2000, called internet company LifeMinders, "an attractive investment". Earlier that month, Merrill Analyst Henry Blodget had said in an email he couldn't believe what a horrible investment the stock was - though he used more colorful language.
At the conclusion of Spitzer's investigation, Merrill Lynch and the other firms paid $1.4 billion in fines, without admitting wrongdoing, and new rules were passed to break the ties between investment banking and stock analyst compensation.
Like everything else on Wall Street, there are varying opinions regarding the effectiveness of the investigation into the research scandal. Critics argue that, despite the fines, Wall Street research still depends on sales to earn money, so this research will always be biased in favor of efforts that will support sales and profitability. (For a detailed exploration, read Why There Are Few Sell Ratings On Wall Street.)
Late-Day Trading Scandal
Spitzer was back in the headlines in 2003, when he prosecuted a host of prominent mutual fund families for permitting late trading and market timing in their funds. (For a detailed breakdown, read Canary Capital Partners: Anato
the majority of religions come up short so why even go there? He is just another hypocritical slime ball in our legal system. I think politicians and cops who break the law should get double time for betraying the publics faith. They are always gung ho to dish out the punishment but when its one of their own they usually get off easy.[extreemly easy].
Daniel,
What is it you think I'm wrong about? Instead of merely capitalizing words and capitalizing ON words maybe you ought to examine the facts and the history surrounding the theme's I've touched on? I'll think you'll find it hard to refute if you do.
Maybe a question to ask yourself is why are you offended? Could it be that you're scared someone might call a spade a spade? That someone might finally suggest the emperor has no clothes? That the myth of Judeo-supremacy and as a consequence the patently racist justification for "Israel" will come crumbling down from it's tenuous, dare I say preposterous, foundation?
Sometimes I wonder when someone like you refuses to take a look at the facts about such an important topic, not only to geo-political understanding but to Jewish identity.
H
f**** Kentucky sc*mbags. bunch of losers down there. hope you get mugged when you come up to see new york.
Again,
Leveling long overdue and deserved criticism against the Jewish Establishment is not the equivalent of denigrating Judaism. Just as being critical of the Christian Establishment is not the same as being anti-Christian.
If you think calling anyone an "anti-Semite" will keep people in this country or in the world for that matter from continuing to point a finger at the many tawdry and criminal manifestations of the Jewish Establishment you're sadly mistaken. Many of us who are Jewish ourselves or who come from Jewish upbringings will do precisely this so calling us "anti-semitic" has no bearing at all on the basic argument put forth. Nor will calling us "self-hating" Jews. Such absurd and made up terms are used by those without any credibility to defend themselves against legitimate critique. Perhaps it's they who are truly loathsome of themselves?
Hugh
People killed Jews not because they practiced anything but because one grandparent happened to have been known to be jewish (practicing the religion or not)
Jewish is a term that denotes someone's ethnicity. It is often but not always paired with the Religion of Judaism.
If someone is going to try to kill me because my grandmother was a specific thing, regardless of what i personally practice, then why would i not think that i am that thing?
Millions of Soviet Jews were good little Communist Atheists. This did not make them any less Jewish.
Hi, Hugh, on your way to getting a life, get a dictionary. Anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic are standard terms to describe hatred of Jews. And you know it. And everybody knows you know it.
This is pretty crazy.
Yeah, I went "gulp" when the news came out, as did many Jews, because there's this natural human tendency to want our "extended family" to behave well and set an example. Most people with some cultural and religious identity do that, it's certainly not exclusively a Jewish thing. But it's human nature to mess up, and people are human FIRST. Infidelity crosses all cultural and religious lines. Don't most people see that as a "DUH?"
Of course it's bad behavior. Obviously. But using one man's infidelity to crank out some standard anti-Semitism to get your hostility chemicals flowing is just cheap and silly. Don't be cheap and silly.
Go run around the block, do some pushups, and sort your laundry or something. Do something constructive, and break a sweat. See? Those are the GOOD brain chemicals, and they'll make you feel better than clenching your jaw and stewing over what some hilariously fictitious Jews are doing to you in your crabbed imagination. Go be healthy.
You're reflecting badly on... whatever it is YOU represent.
I sympathize with Hugh here,
I think that it is no longer possible to say critize a person of Jewish origin, without having the charge of anti-Semitisim being levelled. This is not only true in the case of individuals, (as with Mr. Spitzer), but it is true in the case of Israel. It is impossible to speak frankly about the gross abuse that the Jewish state engages in the Middle East. The consequences of such critism is a barrage of accusations of anit-semitism. Sad to say, the crutch of vitimization has served a lot of those with special interest very well.
"Treat others (he means Jewish people here) the way you wish to be treated.”
Well, if "others" were treated as Jewish people are in this country, there would not be too many "anti-Semites" anymore; at least not quite a few to be oppressed so much as to be bold enough to stand up to say NO.
"Remember: God blesses those who bless The Jewish people. If you people hate Jews so much, stop worshiping one!"
I though God should bless nice people equally regardless their origin, until I heard He has "chosen" people and observe the reality that Jewish people are blessed more in this country regardless what they do.
"Countless anti-Semites are not at all hungry for money and power. Get a life, jerk."
Well it is not the quest for money and power, but the way how they get it.
"I can’t remember. Is Bill Clinton Jewish?"
Just as absent-minded, I forget is Lewinsky Jewish?
"Our Jewish people help each other but what's wrong?"
You have to tell difference for teaming up for protection, and teaming up for robbing.
Well I have a life thank you Esti and get plenty of exercise - thanks for you personal interest!
But again I think you're proving my points here. By flinging reactionary names upon me and jumping to absurd conclusions you are highlighting your own inability to follow the basic thread of an argument and present facts for or against that argument.
My disagreement with some of the commentary on here stemmed from the use of the word Anti-semite as a blanket to apply to anyone critical of The Jewish Establishment, Jewishness, Judaism, Israel, etc. I think it's lazy and dangerous to misuse words this way and deliberately confuse people. People like you.
Why would you need to cloak yourself in a confusing word like anti-semite? Why wouold you need to call Jews "Semites"? Why not just call them Jews? And where do you think that word was coined and by whom? Do you mean Anti-jewish? Well then why not simply say Anti-Jewish? Just as you would say perhaps anti-Christian if you were speaking of something that was opposed to Christianity. Do you honestly believe that Judaism is a race - any different from Catholicism, Islam, Buddhism or Mormonism, etc?
All relevant questions when discussing the themes presented on this blog.
Not sure why you're concerned about who I "represent" as if I need to represent anyone. Seems to me a huge cuase for strife in this world is precisely your brand of tribalism.
All this dichotomy among the human family. Wasn't it Jewish people who suffered so along with Catholics, Gypsies, etc at the hands of people who questioned who they represented and drew such lines between themselves? Quite ominous to see Jewish people doing the exact same thing. A shame and a crime I'd say.
I do think there are others like me who look for accuracy and truth in our communications with each other. I think it behooves all of us to do this if we want to coexist with each other in this trying life and ever complex world.
To All,
Hugh has a life - you're wasting your time trying to engage him in an intelligent dialogue - he's convinced he's right, period. But just for fun - let's use the words of his 3/14/08 blog for a moment - only replacing A FEW words here and there -
"Look up 'GAY' in the dictionary before you go trying to capitalize on the word. If you mean HOMOSEXUAL say it for the love of sheep! The word GAY is used to obfuscate and of course to suffuse an ideology with the veneer of A LEGITIMATE LIFESTYLE OR CLASS. This is naturally dangerous and is a boiler plate of homosexual rights propaganda.
Also -
Would he say Calling a homosexual -GAY - "obfuscates" the real agenda?
Hugh - enough semantics and recreating the dictionary -
Gays are NOT GAY, far from it!
BUT anti-Semites are anti-Jewish, period.
Boruch
Oh Boruch,
Silly, silly, silly. If you're incapable of answering critique then don't and admit your mistake. Seems pretty unlikely in your case and in the case of those like you so powerfully deluded by the myths of your elders.
Naturally your faulty analogy is useless in discussion or debate as is the hackneyed Zionist rhetoric you've regurgitated in avoidance of the real allegations touched on here in. Your frail little parallel just falls to pieces on the merest inspection. But I s'pose it's what we should expect from those afflicted with such blistering Judeo-supremacist dogma.
It must hurt to be you. Such a victim of the entire worlds scorn. The vast hordes of goyim perpeturally coming for you - rargh! And this in the face of legitimate complaints of the truly persecuted like black people, Arabs, gays, etc - how dare you cry wolf when people are actually being persecuted, and killed because of their religion, sexual orientation and color of their skin today Boruch - not 60 years ago.
Awe poor Boruch. It'll be alright - really guy. And I'd wager your paranoia will subside when you start to adhere to basic facts and reason instead of the fear-mongering you've been taught to sell in the public marketplace of ideas. Fear begets fear Boruch.
Happy to discuss but your silly reductionist rhetoric makes it pretty hard. Oh wait, maybe that's your whole point...?
H
Boruch:
This world is full of anti-s. I don't know which is worse: anti-Semites or Semites-anti world? Hitler is evil, because he was anti-Semite or because he was anti-world?
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