What will Alison Donahue do now without a job with Mr El Asmar?
Why the recount? Is not the count now done via computer? What does Mr Vandercrap Say?
Uh, Andy. The modern DLP is not the DLP which split from the ALP in 1955. That DLP disbanded years ago.
The current "DLP" is just a new group of hardline religious nutcases who've taken over the old name.
Donohue and ElAsmir run for Council next time and win big time you see and stick it to you theoinfamous
Andy, look mate, I love your work, but have you ever met John Mulholland? He has basically taken the policies of the Abolish Faily Court and Child Support party - and the DLP's policies in this area are very bad for families, and especially children. It's disappointing that they have gotten seats because of shonky preference deals from stupid Stephen Mayne and the ALP.
Have you seen giovana mulholland- best argument for abortion on demand going around?
Andrew, Rip Van McLefty seems stuck in the late 1970s. Who's going to tell him about the new millenium?
The re-emergence of the DLP is great news.
Even better news: They stopped the Greens winning a seat in Western Victoria.
Hello there
On the one hand we have the interpretation that the current DLP is the same as the historic DLP. On the other hand we have the interpretation that they are just a right-to-life and abolish-family-court focused pressure group using the old name. I think a bit of both may be right. The old DLP always were a 'family values' party so that interpretation can accomodate what Mulholland and mates fixate on.
What will be interesting is whether they have (or hastily develop) a comprehensive platform on other issues. Historically the DLP combined aspects of moral conservatism with some degree of laborite intervention in the economy.
And then the other thing to consider over-and-above policy will be the character of the new DLP MLC(s). By all accounts Mulholland is a bit of a kook so if you are hoping for a politician with the ability of a Brian Harradine then you may well be disappointed.
The preference deal that got the DLP in was seconded by Andrew Giles, following recommendations from Daniel Andrews and Alan Griffin.
Griffin strikes again, the SL will self destruct.
"Vote Mac Back!" (LOL)
Four years hence Victorians might be begging the Australian Labor Party to revisit its previous policy of abolition of the Legislative Council.
the ALP managed to get Stephen Fielding elected to the senate because of their stoopid preference dealing
now they've managed to get two DLP mlcs
just shows what an amateurish lot of negotiators and strategists they are
Anonymous - the ALP preferencing the DLP only effects the result in Western Victoria, and not in Northern Metro as they are in the final 2 for the last spot, and their preferences aren't distributed. If Mulholland is elected over the the ALP in Northern metro, then you should blame it on Stephen Mayne's People Power for preferencing the DLP ahead of the ALP.
The DLP didn't keep the Greens out of Western Vic. Peoplepower did, by their preferences stopping the DLP getting eliminated from the count early. Then Labor preferences elected the DLP over the Greens. So it was the combined deals of Peoplepower and Labor that shafted the Greens.
Andrew. We highlighted the fact that the DLP was in a winning position on both the Western Victoria and northern Metropolitan seats on election night. At first it looked like the DLP would win in Northern Metro ahead of the Greens. Thew main issue is that the VEC commission has not yet provided detailed below the line preference data files. (Their web site still reports many polling places as not counted.)
There is little to desire about the VEC's conduct of this election with relevant information being denied. the progressive results indicate that hundreds of votes have been miscounted. Without access to the detailed below the line data-file it is impossible to independently verify the results of the election or for scrutineers to effectively do their job. It is time the VEC is put under the microscope.
The small minded comment above is under the false notion that computers are infallable. As a systenms analsyst I can sure you they are very much fallable. if you review the count and limited reporting that comes out of the VEC you will notice that there have been many miscounts and without access to teh below-the-line data files it is impossible to verify teh correctness of the calcualted results let alone properly scrutinise the count. There are aklso issues with the system used to calcualte the surplus value and segmentation distribution of preferneces. The systenm used by the VEC is far from perfect or desirable.
In Western Vic, it wasn't Labor that gave the DLP the seat either.
In this order, the minors/micros were eliminated- People Power, Country Alliance, FF, Nationals, then the Libs. At this point in the count it was only a couple of hundred votes seperating the Greens and the ALP, and it was precisely this scenario that the ALP had wanted to avoid- the Greens getting elected all over the state in close contests on ALP preferences. Which is understandable, to say the least. Note that the ALP didn't put them last like the Liberals did.
It was at this point that the Labor preferences flowed to the DLP, putting them over the line.
After the distribution of preferences in Western Vic, Labor had picked up only a handful of votes, remaining fairly static on about 34,000 votes. By contrast, the DLP had gone from around 10,500 votes to 95,000. It is not the ALP's fault at all that this happened- they were merely the last party to have their votes distributed. That they had more votes to distribute is immaterial; The Greens and Labor haters presuppose that in this scenario fail to explain how it is Labor's fault that at the point in the count before Labor preferences were distributed, the DLP had managed to get up to about 62,000 votes.
People who jump to conclusions make investment in the parachute manufacturing industry look highly attractive....
Stephen Newhman is a silly man
Mikakos is probably very happy with the results.
Got rid of a factional opponent & put in a real conservative.
I am a prominent lawyer from coburg and so I know who is silly and who is not, just ask me
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