Like I said before GAV THE RAT will say anything to get a headline in the paper lies lies and more lies
His a wanker
Yes where are his supporters now
Fair play Andy for calling the Fair city of Derry by it's right and proper Name.For probably the first time in recorded Media history,a bloke with the surname O'Connor Referred to Derry by putting an English city's name in front of It.A fecking wanker alright.I was in Derry during the troubles.Don't remember solders opening fire on innocent people in geelong any time in the past 100 years
This guy is exposing himself to what he truly is an idiot!
There seems to be a bit of a theme here with O'Connor, Attack the Labor councillors in Geelong and then Attack the State Labor Government then run against Labor in the federal elections. hmmmmmmmmm is there any cheese left in Geelong?
I will still support Gavan O'Connor but i do agree with you Andrew that these comments were over the top and offensive.
Nevertheless, drunken violence and the horrible brutal rapes we have had in our city recently has caused major concern in the community. Many of our city leaders are trying to play this down because they don't want to tarnish Geelong's image but we do have a problem here.
Gavan's comments went too far but recently Geelong had a young lad bashed in the street by a gang of thugs. His head was kicked in and he almost died. He is still suffering from brain injury and he may not be able to get back to his normal life. Only one person faced court for this and he was fined $400 with no conviction.
At least Gavan O'Connor is willing to acknowledge there is a problem.
Good on GAV THE RAT he tells lies and you still try and make out he so good face it he does not care he is just trying to get a head line as per normal he say anything does not matter if its a lie so long as he gets his he line well done GAV THE RAT
Andy fix the time
S Hamill are you so blinded by this blokes bullshit that you cant see what this guy is all about, he talks the talks but doesnt walk the walk, he is all talk and no action.
This problem in geelong just didnt happen overnight it has been around for years and as guess what he has been a member of parliamet for 14 years why has he let this problem get to this stage (on his watch)to me it appears that he is part of the problem. His comments today is not the solution simply because making these comments doesnt fix it, he is hand balling a problem to someone else so typica.He has done nothing he just sat back and watched and then he sits in the sideline and snipes. what a grub
Hi y'all
Gavan does a great deal of acknowledging of other people's problems and not a lot of accepting where he's failed. As a fifteen year incumbent he's had plenty of opportunity to make Geelong safer. Is there anything he can point to as an achievement - or even an effort - to make Geelong safer from crimes of violence.
Violent crime and Police response times are serious issues, I suspect much less so in Geelong than in Melbourne but certainly one violent crime in a community is one too many.
Recent crimes have obviously left a scarring effect on the Geelong community, making O'Connor's willingness to exploit that pain for his political purpose all the more offensive and wrong.
CCTV - and active monitoring - is clearly a part of the answer to clean up nightclub precincts. There's a federal programme available right now for federal MP's to obtain them for their area. Has O'Connor even arranged for the forms to be filled out? No, didn't think so. He is all talk all the time and no action.
One bludging, blundering, time-serving, attention-starved and cornered rat MP is one too many too.
well said Andrew
I can not defend Gavan's comments. What he said was wrong, he certainly went too far but this is not really a federal issue. Geelong has always been a bit rough but what has been going on over the past 5 to 10 years has been completely different. The state government and local council are responsible for crime and order and they have just stuck their heads in the sand.
I have two teenage boys. They're not old enough for the nightclub scene just yet but i know at some stage they will be out there partying. This terrifies me. If it takes a federal election to highlight the problems here in Geelong then I'm okay with that.
anonymous 9.39pm. If you care to put a name to your comments I will be happy to debate my opinions with you.
The big shakeout is on the way... Judy snd Peter Loney are gone after the federal election, expelled from the party for helping Gavan... And Cheese will fall from grace along with the fuckwit patrol that hangs out with him. Kim Carr will lose the dozen supporters he has left south of Werribee. Judy Loney, pack your bags and piss off...
Judy and Peter arent the only ones the left branch stackers are gone
Zappy, name names....
Did you read the independent or the geelong news for starters the name are there in print
Dear all, if you want to know how many people are about to be kicked out of the left in geelong just do the following:
- check the letters to the editor in all papers
- check who put their name to gavan's nomination form
- check who has a rat coreflute in their front yard
- go by polling/pre polling booths and have a gander
or, just wait for the purge to begin on nov 25
i for one am looking forward to the next admin committtee meeting
anyone else wanna join me up there, i will be bringing a bbq, beer, sausages, a bullhorn for some good heckling, deck chairs, does anyone have sunscreen (i hear these meetings generate a bit of heat), perhaps some umbrellas for pina colladas, salad, tomato sauce....
THE GEELONG LEFT ARE DEAD! | 11.04.07 - 9:31 am | #
Is that you Marles?
Is that you GavGav?
Is that you John Wayne?
Is this me?
No Malres here, just one happy geelong resident ready to say goodbye to some incredibily useless SL folk, and trots.
LET THE PURGING BEGIN!
Off to build the new road of bones with them all.
s Hamill what is it with you and O'Connor does he tickle your fancy or something. Wake up and smell the roses
Some of you ALP members here in Geelong really are rather strange people at times. What are you going to do, go around to all the polling booths, round up Gavan's supporters and burn them at the stake?
What is it about democracy that frightens you so much?
I can understand you attacking Gavan because he is standing against his former Party but why the witchhunt against his supporters? We live in a democracy, people are allowed to make choices.
And if you are so sure that what you are saying is right then why are you hiding behind anonymous posts to attack people who dare to express a different point of view?
I have never been a member of any political party but i usually vote Labor. I want to vote against the IR laws at this election. I can vote for an Independent Gavan O'Connor knowing this is a vote against IR. I had considered voting ALP in the senate but the way the local ALP have reacted to this situation has given me cause to reconsider.
Hamill, people are entitled to do whst they want, but that doesn't change the fact that the Loney's are a problem for everyone in Geelong... which is why no-one likes them. and if nothing else, Gavin's decision means the Loney's are finished in Corio and Corangamite. And the only people that worries are the Loney's themselves...
I don't care about the Loney's. They are not going to be on my ballot paper.
Dhead we were talking about the ones that are going to be kicked out of the party
Is Geelong Fire Captain "Punchy" Crutchfield in disguise? I didn't think he got to Captain, thought he was just a UFU t-shirt wearing lackey holding a hose whinging about money yet working two jobs because night shift is quiet.
Hamill, your point is taken, you are not voting for the Loney's, but please do yourself a favour and do a little research. GAVAN IS THE LONEY's
They are the leftard puppet masters and Gavan is the gimp!
People who have come to Geelong, genuine party people and not factional folk, have been turned away by the Loney's if there has been any doubt on their part as to where that party person might sit come pre-selection time.
You know, people point at Marles as the antichrist of Geelong factions, but I hate to break it to you...
THE LONEY'S AND THE LEFT ARE WORSE!
At the end of it all, your vote is your own and you can use it anyway you like, but please, for the love of all that is holy, do a bit of research on Gavan and factions, you will find that is hands aren't quite as clean as he would like the good folk of Geelong to believe.
Let's face it; O'Connor and Marles are just as bad as each other. O'Connor with his blatant Socialist Left backing and creepy schoolteacher/Margrette Lewis type supporters. The skeletons that have been hiding in the closet since his Colac days are only now starting to emerge (I'm sure Andrew will find them)!!
Marles is only where he is because of Bill Shorten and an extensive network of branchstackers skillfully organized by Hamdi Eren. The nice pic in the Addy today of him with the short one at Alcoa was orchestrated by Bill as no-one at Alcoa has ever wanted Marles on site. Even hardened AWU (Australia's Weakest Union)members don't have time for him.
That doesn't leave us much. Might end up voting for Ange, at least he might push a bit more for those cameras in the CBD even if he supplies them!!!!
Westbranch, your disillusionment is encouraging.
ALP = Disillusionment
westbranch, then why the hell do you bother!?!?!?
Why don't you go and join the natural law party, at least you're going to know the outcome each and every election!
Bother doing what cats man? We have to vote for someone. My Turkish friends told me that.
westbranch, why do you bother being involved, having an opinion? If you are so annoyed by the system and do not care enough to try and exert some change, then whats th point in telling everyone your dissillusioned! Frankly, you just become another asshole who sits in the back of the bus and complains about the driver!
Bottom line, do something about it, get involved, force some change, or don't, its your choice (obviously). But if you choose not, the FFS stop whinging! There are enough of those around already.
OOhh cats man has claws!! Well pussy boy I have been involved and tried to change many things over the years. If you're a local you may have even met me. I'm like many who are frustrated with how the party is run particularly at local level. And take your blinkers off my feline friend, you're on the OC - it's about having a whinge!!!! That's what makes it a great blog!!!
Blimey mr cats man, if you don't like whinging then it's probably best you put your two bob in on another site. From what I can see that's what the Other Cheek is about.
Socialist Alliance might be worth a gander Westbranch. For us confused Labor friends.
Westbranch - Well come on tough man, take your mask off! Avail yourself to us all so we can bask in the glorious efforts you have made to clean up the party in geelong. (btw, yes im a local).
Or do you wish to remain just another 'frustrated' member of the rank and file?
Dont know what all the whinging is all about, Geelong has come leaps and bounds to what it used to be. There is life there now since the right has taken over and after O'connor loses yet again it will get even better. So for those that pretend to be a "Geelong" person that cares for Geelong you all should be happy at what a great place has now become!
All I want is a political Party that represents my values. I dislike the Libs, The Green's social agenda is of concern to me, i think Family First are bigots and I will never trust the Democrats after the GST.
There's not that many options left but what I don't like about Labor is all this crap with the factions. Obviously all Partys have diffent groups of like minded people but the way the ALP seem to hate some of their own members just for having a different opinion is disturbing. Just look at some of the posts on this site. "The Geelong left are dead".
I mean really, what sort of people are you?
In all of this fighting for control of the ALP did you consider what sort of Party you are presenting to the voting public?
If the right faction gets rid of all the left then you could risk losing left-leaning ALP voters to The Greens. But if the left were to do the same then you could risk losing more conservative ALP voters like myself.
Surely a compromise in the middle is required in order to attract a broader range of voters.
The way the ALP factions treat each other is bizarre considering you are all meant to be part of the same Party.
But then i am not involved with any political groups or organisations so that's just an opinion from someone from the community.
If you take notice its GAV THE RAT that is the one in the paper complaining about the party its always the left in the paper bring the party down the right has more respect for the party
The problem with Geelong is the left ran the ALP it was like a mens club the old farts such as GAV THE RAT and Peter and Judy only let the ones that the wanted to join (now thats branch stacking) but the right came to town and opened the party for everbody to join and the left did not like it they try everything to get people to leave (just ask the woman Phill had in tears at the west branch when she wanted to join. Mind you Phill did not know she got her papers from Peters office if you dont beleive it should be on paper somewhere as he had to make an apology to the lady).
Hamill, I think you will find that the factions in both major parties are equally opposed to one another, it just so happens that in Geelong the ALP spats are a lot more public.
This is due, in the most part, to the left in Geelong being in their death throws and wishing to make as many waves as they can before they go.
In the vast majority of the country these types of arguments are done behind closed doors, but Geelong is an unfortunate exception.
Zappy is right, it is the left in geelong who throw this crap into the papers on an ongoing basis.
Prime example is Gavan O'connor running on a platform of probity and integrity in the local area. What a load of crap, this guy has more skeletons in his closet than a halloween costume hire store; and he says he is speaking out against corruption at Geelong council. AMAZING! Numerous reports have exhonorated those involved, and in the one case where the courts have ruled against a councillor it is on appeal. All above board and all open to scrutiny.
O'Connor's approach (and in turn those factional allies who have supported him) is damaging Geelong. These glib one liners about Derry (not londonderry gavan you pompus git, you are a disgrace to your surname) and harlem show his only approach is scare mongering, and well... it aint gonna work.
If you support gavan it is of course your choice, your vote is your right, but i encourage you to give some serious consideration to the macro effect he has had on Geelong.
People throw out lines about how gaven fixed their footpath or got their neighbors cat out of a tree, but FFS what has he done to put geelong on the map? (in all honesty, if you a response to this question i would like to hear it).
His time is up, Geelong needs change and someone who is focused upon growing and expanding the city both physically and in profile; and Marles seems the only logical choice (unless youre considering Kakorous, in which case, well I am probably wasting my time).
Geelong, like the rest of the country needs a new approach, the old guard of guys like O'Connor, Howard et al. need to recognise this. Both should have taken the subtle hints months ago and walked quietly into the night with their egos in tact. Unfortunatly this will not happen for either of them, both appear set to lose their seat and with it their reputations.
It is a shame that so much ALP blood is spilt publicly, but if that is the price of change and growth in the region then it is an unfortunate necessity.
Silence Dogood you have summed it up perfectly, but you know what S Hamill wont accept that argument, just watch and see.
Did you know that Judy Loney has been on ALP Corangamite candidate Darren Cheeseman's campaign team for the last five months? Perhaps that's why the Cheeseman Corangamite campaign has alienated the entire Geelong Labor movement. They've pissed off the ALP branch members, the unions, party office.... When the Cheeseman campaign comes unstuck, who will Judy Loney blame? Will it be the LHMU, their organ grinder - Matt "Fingers" Hammond, or his dancing monkey - Clancy Dobbyn? Will it be Gail "One Term" Tierney and the vehicle union? or will it be the two or three idiots without a village that Kim Carr pulled out of the local branches - Mike "you're going to hate me eventually, so I won't bother trying to be civil" Atkinson, or Richard "I keep Judy Loney's toilet seat warm" Morrow... Let's finish this election, pack Cheeseman's stuff in a box and send him back to Ballarat. With a bit of luck we'll be able to find a good right winger to fill the spot next time....
geelong rat catcher you wouldn't happen to be basing yourself in trades hall at the moment would you?
silence dogood I second your comment - I've lived here since the last election and O'Connor has always struck me as a do-nothing, lazy-ass leech.
I mean the guy was a shadow minister FFS yet have ever seen him speak about his portfolio?
He lists all sorts of acheivements like the Ring Road - wasn't that John Howard pork barrelling in response to an organised grass roots campaign by various citizens and the newspaper?
The first I read of Marles he struck me as someone who wants to see Geelong develop into the city it should be.
Honestly there are people in this town who want to preserve Geelong in amber as if it were some quiet contry town where nothing happens - look at these idiots protesting a skybridge in Yarra St because it blocks their view of the bay - these sort of self interested types (of which O'Connor is kin) have held this city's head underwater while it has struggled for breath.
I met Richard Marles two saturdays ago - he was door knocking the neighbourhood. So far none of the other candidates have shown their faces, If O'Connor shows up i may just laugh - trying to run on (state) law & order issues is pathetic given that a) the Feds have no influence in this area and b) Geelong (and most cities in Aus) has had violent crime for years yet this prick has finally discovered it was going on and has decided to blow it out of all proportion by comparing a few bashings to the brutal murder of thousands.
If he does turn up perhaps he'll see a few of the cars in the street and declare Corio the new Baghdad what with all the roadside bombs!
I'm glad to hear there are some like minded folk around our fair city.
Lets just hope it all equates to a more prosperous Geelong with some real representation in Canberra.
And on a persoanl note, an end to the Loney cabal.
All we need is for Geelong to have both it's federal members be younger, enthusiastic and more Geelong focussed. Preferably hold a ministry or a shadow one, and be prepared to push the barrow of this fair city hard. We also need a mayor who will appeal to both sides of state govt (no Gerry Smith types please) will be bi-partisanish (no more ALP stooges or cops please) and have councillors concerned about their ward and not their political careers. We know Stewie and O'Connor are well and truly past it, Cheesy should prob go back to Ballarat (should have had McMayor run for Corangamite) and that leaves us with Marles and Ange as our shining lights. Too bad there will be only one winner. Back to back flags, Hi Lite Park rebuilt and everyone on Kay Rundle's salary and Geelong is great!!!
G Scholes - Is that the former member for Corio?
What are your thoughts on the current state of affairs in your old electorate?
Do you prefer O'Connor to Marles?
Some of us like to hear the thoughts of elder party statesmen like yourself.
Time to stand up for freedom folks and defend her from the endless tramplings and gropings of the obfuscating class:
http://tshirtinsurgency.com/node/41
You wankers...."the left are dead". Your beloved overweight, short, bisexual millionaire McFriend might take offence to being beaten by a corpse.
And don't forget that Saunderson was actually convicted in a court of law for what basically amounts to corruption as a councillor.
Fossy!!! Was wondering when you would rear your head again, quah let your cock out of his vice did he?
The cheese ain't gonna win shit good buddy, stewie has a bag of tricks he is just waiting to unleash, and when he does it will be game over for the bungling slack ass councillor from ballarat (so I dont think that makes him a local, more of a blow in really).
And as for Saunderson, go and read the fine print my man (or eunich, whatever you may be). He was convicted of a practice that has been going on from time immormorial, by all sides of the political equation, and hence why it is on appeal. But if that is the best shot you can fire, go right ahead, the spirit on this side of the ledger ain't wavering.
As they say at the 'g'fos... SCOREBOARD!
condolences for the 24th.
P.S. I am glad to see your use of the english language is on the improve - youre a fuckwit, while very biting, was starting to wear a little thin - good on you for expanding your horizons.
You're a lovely guy E mouse.
As a lifelong Liberal voter and descendant of two former Liberal MPs, I surely hope Old Man Stewie does pull a rabbit out of his hat.
You would be well served to remember this...not everyone who supports Gavan does so because he is a "leftard". I support Gavan because he could well derail Rudd and his circus of spastics in the run to November 24. I read this site because it pleasures me to observe the ALP feasting upon its pathetic self.
I nearly pissed myself with pleasure when McMullen got pipped by Cheeseman at preselection. It made Stewie's job that little bit easier. That it proved that the left is not dead is irrelevant to me...I merely pointed it out because I thought it was funny that such a useless prick could dash McFatrichboy's political career.
Back to the other grotesque fat unity boy. If the offence was so trivial then why did he stand down from Jimmy the Turk's office until the case was heard? Straw-grasping, expensive, Labor-funded appeals aside, the fact remains that a court of law found Fabio Saunderson engaged in corrupt conduct. That Marles, Eren and the rest of the posse was also involved makes it an even better yarn. Stop apologising for these fuckwits.
Oh, and I wrote you a poem.....
So smart and with vocabulary great,
But at night in their bedrooms my children I rape,
I was called Fos Fyans but now I'm E Mouse,
I'm McMuffin's new gimp and my bum it feels grouse,
Ta da fuckwit......
Oh, and can you please respond in rhyming couplets? Thanks buddy.
haha.... Fos, how many hours did you put into that one. And I thought it a great touch that your finished it off with fuckwit, when in doubt go back to an old stapple hey?
I'm not sure I should lay into you to much more as you seem a very confused and upset person, a lib spending all his time on an ALP site, is that because you guys don't have enough numbers in geelong to even generate a reasonable discussion amongst yourselves, or because the majority of your brethren are yet to decipher what a computer is?
either way, no matter, but please, oh pretty please with sugar on top show your face around here Nov 25, and we can really have a nice a long chat about the state of the game.
until then, ta ta and enjoy yourself with mr quah 
Where's "around here" E mouse. I'd love to catch up on the 25th. And what's a "stapple"? You're a really clever guy. I admire you greatly. Have a nice night rooting your kids.
xxoo 
Fos Fyans - boy you libs are some sick puppies, "have fun rooting you kids"! Your not from Queensland or Belgium are you?
And Anon E Mouse is right, if your a lib what the hell are you doing hanging around this site? There are enough wackos on this blog without needing libs as well.
Fos your description of Saunderson is perfect!! [[DELETED racist epithets, enough please]]
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