Lenin’s Tomb
"Not all Muslims are terrorists but, with deep regret, we must admit that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
Even if we ignore the large-scale terrorist atrocities of the major world powers, this claim is false. See, for example, the political scientist Robert Pape's Dying to Win (Random House, 2005), which meticulously demonstrates that the majority of suicide bombings over the past quarter century have been carried out by secular groups, and that the motivations of those who engage in them are overwhelmingly political. Pape summarizes his research here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/1...ion/
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Exactly.
The line that struck me was "But Jews ... are not trying to bomb Britain." The implication is that "Muslims" - collectively, in general - are.
I liked '"Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by killing people, burning churches and bombing embassies,' she storms.'
http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/sutton/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/north...and/
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/event...news/
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/385571.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/north...and/
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...es/
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&c &c ad infinitum, ad nauseam
I have just posted this on medialens describing how Israeli troops arrived in a convoy of 40 vehicles and trashed and closed down charity premises, a school and a mosque all apparently legally authorised by their state.
I said imagine if the roles were reversed and it was Palestinians attacking their synagogues and schools.
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Israeli Army invades charitable institutions in Nablus and confiscates its property
Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC News
Monday July 07, 2008
On Monday morning Israeli army forces attacked a number of charitable institutions in the northern West Bank city of Nablus. Troops shut them down and confiscated their property.
Witnesses reported that more than 40 vehicles invaded the city at 1:00 a.m. Monday and soldiers then ransacked Al Rawda mosque, some sport-clubs and charitable institutions.
Moreover invading troops stormed the Islamic School for Girls as it confiscated its belongings, and shut it down. The army claimed that those local organizations are a major source for "funding terror".
Witnesses said that because of the army attacks they could not attend their dawn prayers.
In the nearby Balata refugee camp, the Israeli army searched and ransacked a number of homes on Monday morning and kidnapped two civilians, local sources reported.
The Israeli army stepped up recently its campaign against Islamic charitable societies in the West Bank, shutting down a large number of them, confiscating their property, and searching computers and documents that detail their activity.
Some of those attacked were reported in the Hebron, Qalqilia and Ramallah areas since the beginning of the year, the army announced that those attacks will now be expanded to additional parts of the West Bank, after it received approval from Israel's legal authorities.
It might be less that Kavanagh is an Islamophobe than he's defending his newspaper - Oborne has noted that the Sun contributed two of the most pernicious and false articles on Muslims of recent times, the "Windsor Muslim yobs" - http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk...seems-familiar/
and the Muslim bus driver "who ordered his passengers off so he could pray" - http://www.septicisle.info/2008/...-and-
chris.html
Michael Mann makes the point that, at least up until 2003, suicide attacks by the Tamil Tigers alone equalled the number of suicide attacks in the Middle East as a whole.
Pape's work is fairly widely known and understood by people who are interested in this kind of thing, so it's a real pity that Oborne didn't make the parallels explicit, even with the examples of Kamikaze attacks and IRA campaigns that all his viewers would be familiar with.
Not to mention asking Randy Andy Hayman for his opinion on anything.
The flip side of the ignorant Islamophobe is the exegetic authority on Islamic theology who is thus also qualified as an expert in workings of the 'Arab mind' (after all religious texts are like so much software controlling those minds). Among such Orientalists can be counted the father of the 'Clash of Civilizations' thesis, Bernard Lewis and Noah Feldman, some of whose vaporizings are mentioned here (search for 'chestnut').
All he states is the amazing revelation that there is nearly always a wider cause behind suicide bombings other than just the ideologies of Islamism and Marxist utopianism. But no one is denying this.
You haven't read Pape's book, have you? He places his finger on a very specific motivation (driving foreign occupiers out), and, in fact, cites it as the primary (if not sole) motivation behind 95% of all suicide attacks.
More importantly, you are a certified idiot:
overthrowing democracy in somewhere like Iraq and Afghanistan.
It always annoys me that Kavanagh is presented on television as though he were some sort of senior statesman figure, just because he is quite old (I'm quite old, but nobody takes me seriously).
He is often introduced as "political editor of the Sun" - I always feel this is a bit like being wine correspondent of the Methodist Recorder.
This is again another typical confusion of 'Arab' and 'Muslim' - somehow people like Kavanagh seem to forget that there are millions of non-Arab Muslims across Africa, Asia and Europe who live in societies with no history of suicide bombing. I know of no evidence, for instance, that African Muslims are any more violent than African Christians, etc.
But of course stating this assumes some knowledge of the world on Kavanagh's part.
The Channel 4 webpage, with links to polls, etc.
http://www.channel4.com/news/art...+muslim/
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The Sun (and almost every other UK newspaper) should be prosecuted for incitment to racial/religious hatred -but of course, the powers that be are too busy using those laws to intimidate mosques... and so giving an ideological green light to the fucking BNP.
Oh, and I'm sure we'll be finding out about a lot of Muslim 'Birmingham sixes/Guilford fours' over the coming decades... and those same newspapers will be trotting out garbage about how the wrongly accused were 'guilty' (of something) anyway...
Grim says of Kavanagh as political editor of the Sun;
"I always feel this is a bit like being wine correspondent of the Methodist recorder." Well done Grim. You ask this Kavanagh to quote any first hand experience of being a Muslim that he knows, he will start reciting some verses from the Koran that he heard whilst drunk. We all know how the Sun editors collate their stories. It is pathetic that anyone ever takes these people seriously, because they themselves are not serious about their job. They will do or say anything for money!
As a member of Campaign Iran who has listened to ordinary people from Iran, Kavanagh is welcome to come and interview me and quote me as a reliable source. Whether I am biased against the American's emperial war should not hinder him as a journalist. After all, a true story is one that bears critical analysis, rather than regurgitating what a paid soul-less person who by birth claims to be knowledgeble of everything that happens in the Muslim world.
A comrade from campaign Iran yesterday twisted my arm to attend a meeting this Thursday on "War and Media. Why should Iran be punished?" I say she twisted my arm because I would normally not need persuasion but for the fact that the chair of the meeting accepted the queen's accolade of Baroness. By profession, she is a professor of Politics and women's studies. However, I decided to put aside my prejudice against the queen and attend this meeting. Maybe the likes of Kavanagh should also overcome their prejudice of Muslim and join us in these debates.
Lenin says "just supply your address and I will come and sort you out." Could not have put it any better. Gareth Jenkins presented a splendid lecture on "Trotsky, culture and the struggle for socialism". Someone tried to pin Lindsey German on why Trotsky was critical of swearing. The response from Lindsey was magnificent - worth by the CD. Five years ago I would have agreed with Trotsky as I believed swearing was repulsive. I am sure that Trotsky did not realise then that swearing has its place. If one is not engaged in real struggles, yet continues to witness the worst brutality to humanity, one has to let out the pent out anger one way or the other. Swearing surely saved me from murdering some idiots in these last five years. There is no more need to swear now, because it has been agreed at Marxism that action should be the language of our struggle. Mark Serwotka summed it all up at the closing rally and lenin has already started!
In the wake of 9/11, the Muslim head of Al Arabiya TV, Abdul Rahman al Rashed, said: "Not all Muslims are terrorists but, with deep regret, we must admit that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
Sri Lanka
Sergio - Rahman, like the rest was wrong. Number 1 terrorist the world over is George Bush. Did you know that in America Nelson Mandela was still registered as a terrorist until a couple of weeks ago? Apparently Ms Rice had to rip the order with great shame. This is because Nelson Mandela is now a statesman in America and the UK shaking hands and drinking tea with the queen and the Clintons etc all in the name of charity, forgetting that he fought against the empire and apartheid for African liberation not for charity.
People whose brains are in the right place understand why Muslims are fighting back against the west. We may not agree with some of their tactics, but it is clear to all, unless the west and America in particular stop planting their stoogies in the Middle East purely to control and exploit the richness of that part of the world, we will never see the end of this cycle of terrorism where terrorists breed terrorism.It is for this reason that we are fast and furious in coming up with the truth, the alternative to these pictures painted by people who either mean well in their ignorance or deliberately succumb to Islamophobia for their own selfish ends.
Sergio's point is that the example of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka--discussed in detail by Pape--refutes Abdul Rahman al Rashed's claim.
Sergio's point is that the example of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka--discussed in detail by Pape--refutes Abdul Rahman al Rashed's claim.
Phil | 8 Jul, 15:33
Thanks Phil
Kavanagh is a complete kunt and the most accomplished anal orator of all time. You've only to recall the high intellectual / social / moral level of his "Sun readers".
And the 18 year old bit of totty on page 3 was having her dignity upheld and defended by flashing her breasts for the world to comment on. How very fucking moral Mr Kavanagh.
"In the wake of 9/11, the Muslim head of Al Arabiya TV, Abdul Rahman al Rashed, said: "Not all Muslims are terrorists but, with deep regret, we must admit that almost all terrorists are Muslims." "
Reminds me of a British senior policeman (might even have been Ian Blair) who said, in defending ethnic profiling, 'terrorists are not likely to look like 6' tall white ex-servicemen such as me'.
So that's Tim McVeigh in the clear, then....
Good post. One thing I have to add is that Wafa Sultan has never been a Muslim, as the media(especially zionist MEMRI) presents her.
She's a secular alevi, a group who do not identify as Muslims or share any of the their rituals. The real Wafa Sultan exposed :
http://www.infocusnews.net/conte.../view/4009/135/
excellent post, Trev is really quite rabid isnt he? he refers to Peter as a good friend then says he 'barked' at him not much of a respectful friend then...
The only relevant question is, what type of person gets appointed political editor for The Sun?
Whilst hating anyone based purely on religious or ethnic grounds is reprohensible. Not all acts of ethnic clensing have been carried out by Americans or western countries. Not all Muslims are violent and most like others want to live in peace with there neighbours. On the other hand Islam is not just a religion but a political entity as well which divides the world into two dar-al islam and dar-al hab. The house of peace and the house of war and anyone who is not in the house of dar-al islam has to either join or be eradicated. This is the reality.
www.australinislammonitor.org
Good job linking to a zionist site, Daisy. Putting aside the stupid anti-Muslim conspiracy theories for a sec, the concept pf Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-harb applies during a time of war.
You racist idiots really need to stop sucking off the likes of Daniel Pipes for a change.
Thank God there are no Jewish terorrists. It'd be so embarrassing I could only get expiation with a suicide attack.
daisy is of course wrong, but so is M, now daisy what is the third choice, dar ul islam, dar ul harb (not because muslims are going to attack it but because non-muslims are a violent lot) and the dar ul suhl, but you are not serious daisy so if you are going to mess around with this folkloric stuff try to get it right and dont rely on zionists, they are shits.
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