Mark, I didn't know he said that...terribly misguided, but I don't think it constitutes racism...
The previous week the great lads of Aston Villa FC told the FO to eff off when ordered to give the nazi salute, before the start of a friendly played on German soil!
Just thought I would be topical since the World Cup is nearly upon us - and its a brave non-Englander that turns on their tv here in Blighty expecting not to hear about 1966 and all that !
PS I love the Nazi-by-Association game, don't you?
In the book, "Military History's Most Wanted: The Top 10 Book of Improbable Victories, Unlikely Heroes, And Other Martial Oddities," the American author lists the Grand Mufti as No. 8 in his list of "Collaborators." But the problem is that Palestine was occupied by the British, not the Germans. And he was trying to defend the Palestinians from the invading Israelis. From the Grand Mufti's perspective he was defending the interests of his people against foreign occupiers, not allying himself with those occupiers.
While one can fault his judgement in not seeing how the Nazis despised the Arabs, from his point of view he was merely defending the self-interest of his people. Stalin did the same with the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939.
just to muddy the waters,
the various pre-WWII Yishuv terrorist groupings admired and tried to emulate the anti-British, anti-imperialist IRA -
- also remember of course,
if you ever bring up the good name of the Provos (Provisional IRA to outsiders) in polite conversation these days, they get immediately slandered with accusations of helping the nazis during WWII!
PS I don't know if you noticed but Dershy the world's most famous palgeriser and liar, recommended the illegal Apratheid Wall be mounted on wheels, in a recent tete-a-tete with the good Prof Chomsky
http://www.chomsky.info/debates/...es/
20051129.htm
Dershy is almost as good fun to read as that other half-wit (via the great Norman Finkelstein) Elie 'the mystic' Wiesel!
ALl the best Montag and JSF!
hey Joe, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Hoops list?
unless of course its illegal, and if that is the case, then I've been a member all me life !
PS Nope, sorry never heard of it Mark my good friend!
PPS I had to give up smoking hash recently when the spoilsports in the British government practically made it legal to use - where is the fun in that, I ask you, smoking legal cannibis?
I may as well start smoking actual tobacco, as its so stigmatised its practically demonised and is illegal to even use it in public bus shelters here in bonnie auld Scotia, I kid you not!
I just thought you might like to know there is an interesting article just posted today at Umkahlil's blog
The Closing Statement of the Palestinian National Dialogue Conference
By The National Dialogue Conference
May 30, 2006
Alan Dershowitz, professor of law at Harvard University and the author of "The Case for Israel" (Wiley, 2003) said that members of the ISM could not be called human rights activists, because they only focus on the Palestinians, while ignoring serious human rights violations in Tibet and other places.
"Why pick the one people whose leaders have been aligned with Nazis and who have used terrorism since 1949?" Dershowitz asked. "They are being immoral, they are on the wrong side of morality, and they are supporting a group that has as part of its policy the murder of innocent civilians."
Dershowitz also compared supporters of the ISM to the Hitler Youth.
"I don’t see any difference between naive young Jews who join ISM, and naive young Germans who joined the Nazi youth," he told The Journal. "But ignorance is no excuse. The ISM provides legitimacy to terrorists, and they make it harder for Israel to fight terrorism. There is a word for what they are, and it is not patsies, it is criminals."
Actually Mark, that isn't a bad analogy, since both the Irish Nationalists and the Israeli Nationalists had civil wars within their own Nationalist movement.
- it's not for the faint hearted, that's why I prefer the less exciting and less challanging topic and activity of helping, any way I can, work towards peace for both Occupied Palestinians and US-Occupied Israelis -
- Black & Tans, you say Montag, in Mandate Palestine, I wonder how the scum of the earth got on?
PS Did you notice the Rev Ian Paisley refused to 'share power' recently in the Ulster Assembly when invited to do so by people who have destroyed their arsenal and renounced the armed struggle ?
You'll notice ther has been no such reciprocal commitment by the armed Orange bigots however -
What exactly is it the Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland have to do before the British suppported Orange bigots finally stop causing trouble and calm down ?
There is a great little vignette at the start of 'Dude, Where's My Country' by the always brilliant Michael Moore about his visiting the place where his ancestors are from as a present to his daughter graduation - great stuff!
All the best youz wans!
PS I hear the US has caved in to Iranians demands for the Yanks to get lost - how the mighty empire has fallen in just so few years, unbelievable!
Isn't everyone who ever lived "responsible" according to Dershowitz's insane bollocks?
The U.S. offer for talks with the Iranian government is a ploy to demonstrate to Russia and China how "reasonable" they are. They probably learned that from Israel. They know that the conditions for the talks will be unacceptable to the Iranians. If they stop the uranium enrichment it would be a humiliation and they have no guarantee that the talks would be in good faith, forcing Iran to either give the neo-cons what they want, by not re-starting the enrichment when talks prove to be a dead-end, or restarting the enrichment, thus giving the neo-cons a "red line" that the Iranians have crossed, thus justifying whatever the neo-cons were going to do anyway.
The rule of thumb in any policy coming out of Washington is, "Heads we win, tails you lose."
There's a story about a Chess Tournament at which smoking was forbidden. Two Chess Masters were playing a game. One of them knew that the other abhorred smoking to the point of mania. So he places his unlit pipe on the table. This starts to throw the other player off his game, so he calls an Official over and says, "Make him remove that pipe!" The Official replies that it's totally within the rules as long as he doesn't light it, so what's the problem?
The plaintiff replies angrily, "But he's THREATENING to smoke!"
on the earthly ways of the Serpent in Washington -
- still, I can't help thinking though, that the Bush Admin are having to really work hard in order to get a result, and they are about as far forward with their attempts to 'destabilise' Iran as they are in securing Iraq, never mind Syria, which aught to be a pushover -
PS did you know the world's largest building, the Pentagon, borrows its geometry fron a sign traditionally used as part of ritualistic devil worship, with a circle drawn on its outside, and a five pointed pentangle star on the inside -
- it's mentioned in the Book of the Apocalypse I think - tell that to a few 'fundamentalist christians' see what they say -
- Devil worshippers the lot of them!
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