Jews sans frontieres

Ah, Zionists... Such honest, decent folk. Wish we could all be as upstanding as they are.


maybe alf green and baruch spinoza are the same person?


Gravatar Nope, they just attend the same school of thought.


Gravatar I see the lovely and delightful Linda Grant is part of it as well.

Is the guardian still providing a platform for her fictions?

Does the Guardian allow multiple IDs from the same person?

What is their view on sock puppetry from one of their ‘writers’?

I think this should be reported to them as soon as possible.

Disgraceful but entirely in character with Hirsh, Grant and the whole group of smear and slander liars at Engage.

How funny that Engage, a group that supports one the world most racist regimes operating policies of apartheid and ethnic cleansing, routinely defends that regime by accusing its critics of…racism.

Defending racists by calling everyone else a racist first…

How much longer will this madness be tolerated?

It is time for Hirsh and Grant and all the other liars to be called out for what they are.

Supremacists.


Gravatar boy, mr. green is quite the slander artist:

http://www.insidehighered.com/ne...2006/02/09/ aaup
Poor old Joan
Well it looks like Joan Scott started the week as a nice but rather silly liberal, arguing against academic boycotts and for free speech.

She ended the week discovering that all the Jews had ganged up against her in a conspiracy and has already become an antisemite.

-Alf Green


Gravatar Harry - I don't know if Linda Grant used bogus id to comment here.


Gravatar "She ended the week discovering that all the Jews had ganged up against her in a conspiracy and has already become an antisemite."

A pretty amazing statement from a man who pretending to be some one else in order to support his own piss weak statements.

After this deception he then reappears two comments later as "David Hirsh" again.

And so yet again more clear evidence that Engage is staffed by liars and propagandists.

Why the guardian tolerates them surprises me still.


Gravatar Mark,

Do not be scared of Linda.

Like all bully's she relies on fear.

Stand up to her and tell her to go fuck herself.

She obviously knows all about the Alf Hirsh’s sock puppetry - she appears everywhere Alf Hirsh does.

And this from a 'journalist' who works for the paper that Hirsh is manipulating so cynically.

And of course if the main man Alf Hirsh is using sock puppetry to such an extent what about the all the other sycophants at Engage and Harry's Place!? They must be rancid with it…

So you'd have to think that at least 75% of the 'independent support' Engage receives are lies authored by other Engage / HP sock puppets.

(I suspect it much higher but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.)

Not very ethical or professional but then truth and honour are not built into the foundations of an organisation that relies on lies and smears to shut down debates it does not approve of.

BTW if you have not seen it already - have a read of this...

http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle15072.htm

I think it gives us a big clue as to where Engage came from and why?


Gravatar Re Alf Green - it could still be Alexandra Simonon. Either way I'd say that they've both made themselves libel proof since both are privy to the workings of the Engage site.

I'm not scared of Linda Grant, and I know she is more than happy to run with liars and hypocrites at Engage. All I;m saying is that I don't have any direct evidence of sock-puppetry on her part. I did suspect her of being "Rob Foster" at Wikipedia and of being someone else here but since she has never posted here in her own name I don't have any evidence.

Also I'm not sure if anyone at Engage is worth bothering with any more. Not in a big way anyway. I think even their friends find them embarrassing.


Gravatar Yeah I think they badly miscalculated actually. Its the law of diminishing returns. The hysteria that had to be mobilised to overturn the AUT decision may be hard to do twice...particularly as in the intervening period their real agenda (ie preventing any criticism at all) has become pretty transparent.


Gravatar I hope Engage will do something about the following. a boycott of Israeli goods by Palestinian refugees is anti-Semitic in effect, if not intent, because most Israel merchants are Jewish, so it disproportionately affects Jews, and Israel is the only Jewish state. Until these refugees decide to boycott Sudanese, Congolese and Chinese goods, they have no moral authority to single out Israel as if it constitutes a unique evil. hopefully the Palestinian government will form an extra-parliamentary commission to determine whether boycotting Israeli goods promotes violence towards Jews.


Tulkarem Refugees Call for Israel Boycott in Trade Fair
http://english.wafa.ps/bodym.asp?id=7178 TULKAREM, September 24, 2006 (WAFA)- Tulkarem Refugees and other institutions called to boycott Israeli products, said Palestinian Grassroots Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign.

In trade fair that is taking place in Tulkarem city, Palestinian citizens and traders gathered in the refugee camp to buy and sell Palestinian products in a statement of boycott and resistance to the Israeli occupation.

Goods produced in the camp itself were on sale, including carob energy drinks, children's clothes and packaged cakes. Local people browsed the stalls while children from the camp entertained onlookers with drumming and dancing.

The message of the meeting was to remind the population that boycott is a culture and a way of resisting occupation, the checkpoints and everything that the occupation is trying to impose on the Palestinian people.

Israeli goods dominate the Palestinian market. Over the next ten days, the Tulkarem trade fair will gather over a hundred businesses and farmers, many of them from Tulkarem camp itself, as part of a growing movement to boycott Israeli goods and promote Palestinian production.

H.M. (20:56 P) (18:56 GMT)


Gravatar Shocking Hulkagaard. Surely this merits a military response from Israel? Surrounded by such insanity what else can it do?


Gravatar Johng: here's a reasonable response to this onslaught of Palestinian anti-Semitism: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...cle.asp? ID=1053


Gravatar actually what else can the Palestinians do? The Israelis, as you know, put estrogen into the bubble gum they export to the occupied territories to keep down the Arab birth rate.


Gravatar Anonymous - stop being a nuisance please. If you want to debate, debate but don't be a prick. The topic here is the organisers of Engage using pseudonyms to be even more abusive than they are under their own names or to support each others' "arguments."


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