"…Gilad takes up the tools of modern philosophical discourse ... to explain our position: why we are against domination by Judaic spirit."
(I am aware that this is a selective quote from a selective quote.)
For those with the patience, there is an article by Atzmon articulating such a theme in Counterpunch (no, I can't be bothered to provide a link).
Reading it is very reminiscent of trying to read LaRouche.
What are Counterpunch up to, don't they read the stuff?
They are also a spineless, gutless crew unable to acknowledge, let alone publish, any criticism of the shite they have allowed Atzmon to dump on ther pages, even when that criticism comes from anti-zionist socialists.
Anyway, good news about the rethinking going on in Scotland.
The Atzmon stuff can't be taken seriously by many people. I am guessing it is included purely for entertainment value or because, as an earlier commentor said, the editors can't read his stuff.
And I'll say it again: Atzmon seems to know a lot about Israelis and Zionists. Too bad he knows nothing about Jews. If he got to know some, he might like them.
And what a piece of crypto-Zionism the article is! But I'll bet Atzmon doesn't even see it.
As my old mate, Israel Shamir said of the British National Party, they're just another tool of the "Jewish overseers"...
http://www.israelshamir.net/
Cont...ntributor48.htm
(Actually, it is David T from Harry's Place here - but I bet that is what Gilad Atzmon does say if the SWP ever have the guts to drop him)
...not a single Holocaust religion scholar dares engage in a dialogue with the so-called 'deniers' to discuss their vision of the events or any other revisionist scholarship.
Fair doos, I'd say - so why doesn't His Cosmic Eminence (who, by the pure power of his thought alone, summons beings into existence, that weren't there before and no-one knew existed) start the ball rolling himself?
Surely this is hypocrisy. He is criticing others for crimes he is guilty of. Why isn't he engaging with these neo-nazis...sorry, 'revisionists' and 'holocaust deniers', himself?
As for myself, I am no hypocrite when it comes to engaging with 'holocaust deniers' and 'revisionsist', I do - they are nothing but a bunch racist liars and neo-nazi windbags. I also prefer not to use quotation marks when using these terms because it gives these racist dregs some kind of specious validity they don't warrant or deserve.
I know, however, that postmodern-gibberishists just love using as many quotation marks, as well as all sorts of references from as many different sources as possible, in as small a space as they can possibly manage, in the futile attempt to give themselves some kind of air of deep profundity and mystical all-knowingness, that there dislocated dis-jointed head-rot they come away with, doesn't merit.
But that is probably just me and my Scottish working class politics.
ps
this Lacan character and his 'real' thingy -
- isn't that just the old idea that everything rests ultimately on something that can't be proven, such as, what came before the big bang etc?
or such as, how can we know about stuff we can't experience ie infinity?
or such as, we humans for some strange reason, can have an idea such as 'g-d' but trying to imagine something like that, which doesn't exist in time and space or be associated with those two properties, is impossible?
pps
does anybody know what this terrible plague of 'jewishness' has to with achieving justice for Palestinians and achieving peace between Palestinians and Jewish-Israelis?
Doesn't this 'jewishness' gibberish just poison the well both these great Peoples have to eventually share and drink out of?
Perhaps he has some basis for this confusion. I don't think he does, he just gets a kick out of his Pecksteins-bad-boy schtick.
And of course, as soon as he uses the words "Jewish essence" he is in racist territory.
brought my attention to this article -
Groups Mum On Iraq, Despite Antiwar Tide
New Polling Research Finds Opposition Highest Among Jews
- which weighs in with superfluous stuff about the real world called 'facts'. A category unfamilair to Parisian left-bank psuedo-philosophers type logorrhea-merchants.
Obviously there'll be a really sneaky, clever reason, why these Jews are so 'anti-war'
(notice the use of inverted commas - very post-modernish and non-eurocentric etc)
- altho I'm sure, a close reading of any old tosh picked at random from The Old Testament, will clear matters up and reveal jewishness in all its horrible timeless jewishness.
ps
Can Flying Saucers from Hollow Earth rescue Ernst Zundel?
Charles has actually published a rather charming photo of a political philosopher, and a champion of standards in historical methodology, whom the Cosmic Guru thinks would be a big asset in the struggle for peace and justice for Palestinians and Jewish-Israelis.
From looking at the picture, His Logos-ness might want to book a ticket - I'm sure they'll be able to find a seat for Hyme somewhere up the back of their UFO!
They will do it just in order to Judify the PSC policy.
No prizes for guessing who wrote it, read the rest here -
Haloscan comments
attached to article
Gilad Atzmon - From Esther to Birkenau, From Esther to AIPAC (Purim Special)
I can't think of a better way of undermining efforts to bring peace and justice to Israel-Palestine than providing the current corrupt racist regime in Tel Aviv with all the justification it needs in order to claim Jewish people, everywhere, need Israel as a safe haven from neo-nazis, holocaust deniers and assorted world jewish conspiracy paranoid lunatics!
Now all the current racist Israeli regime needs to do to smear Palestinians, and their friends, is call us a bunch of neo-nazi sympathisers, which if His Cosmic Eminence gets his way, will be entirely correct.
And I get tired of having to address the same old nazis smears thrown at the good old Mufti becuase he sided with his enemy's enemy, as well!
Try reading the old nazi 'red scare-jewish bolshevik' paranoid ding-dong-alongs posted at Scottish PSC
Israel Shamir admires the BNP, Hitler and Gilad Atzmon
Unbelievable!
When I was about, say, 13-15 years old. I would have thought I was so clever.
What a little schmendrick Gilad is. Except that schmendrick doesn't usually cover the kind of maliciousness he deals in.
The 'broken' link was the one provided by the great Roland Rance on the JPUK messege board -
JPUK - Scottish PSC on Atzmon and Shamir
- his comment was the first one in the discussion until it was indundated by post-modernist jargon-spewing gobbledygook mystical-pronouncement specialists (always a big help in spreading the word and building up popular-based movements, I'v found!!).
It seems to be the Scottish SPC website admin which has withdrawn access to that particular page for the time being, for whatever reason - I am sure it will be back soon!
ps
I always enjoy your jargon-less, clear-as-daylight pithy comments - even your homepage has a certain je-ne-ce-qua about it!
JPUK - PSC Conference
This may have something to do with the Scottish SPC discussion board being made unavailable, until the AGM is over.
It's ridiculous, in this day and age, the same old battles of yesteryear are still having to be fought -
- no truck with neo-nazis and those who tolerate even their presence, on whatever forum!
My 'ps' above
was addressed to Mooser of Moose Hall fame, who insists on using for his homepage a weblog whose last entry is dated somewhere around September 2005 - that is what I call true pride in your work and shows a great work ethic which I very much share!
I pride myself in being a very lazy activist - the great David Hume, who really couldn't be arsed, extolled on the virtues of indolence and look at his legacy - case rests!
if Charles Pottins going on about expeditions to find Hitler's hidden UFOs at the North Pole isn't bad enough,
or if Mooser of Moose Hall's use of a homepage stuck in a timewarp isn't a bit weird,
then how about having to endure lenin (who I believe is a good friend of the JSF-ers, but who ain't no babe-magnet at peace demos) and his intricate knowledge of WWF ring-craft and associated terminology!
Here is lenin strutting his stuff before an un-appreciative audience at the MediaLens.org messegeboard
Iran wants to vapourise Israel
I think he should stick to just the recondite minutae of 11-9 conspiracy theories myself - I can't imagine WWF being top of the pops with peace babes either, though!
All the best JSF - I'll go now and thanks for putting up with me !
"Palestinians need mass support – it won’t come by associating ourselves with extreme-right sympathisers who miss no opportunity to spew their racist bile into a movement for human and national rights for the Palestinian people groaning under Zionism, which is armed and sustained by western imperialism. Not a Jewish world conspiracy."
http://www.scottishpsc.org.uk/ph...wtopic.php?
t=40
This is a contribution to a discussion of political ideas for anybody who wishes to participate.
Anyone who imported sympathy for the BNP into the Palestine solidarity movement would ensure the loss of our most committed supporters, and alienate most of our potential supporters, left-wing, Muslim, Christian, as well as those individual Jews who have had the courage to buck the leadership of their community. Anybody who insists that Jews must give up their Jewishness, or Catholics their Catholicism, before being allowed to join the anti-Zionist movement, or even the vast army of critics of Israeli murder, is not just an idiot, but a menace to the Palestinians. I write as an ex-Catholic and committed atheist, who sees religion as capable of sustaining impulses to both liberation and mass murder. I certainly deny Christians – given the genocidal history of Christian powers, or the influence of deranged Christian fundamentalists today - any right to denigrate any other belief system.
We should not lose a moment’s sleep over accusations of “anti-Semitism” levelled against pro-Palestinian activists. We should care, however, about developing the broadest militant campaign among trade unionists, anti-war activists and the general public in active support of a boycott of Israel and its support base around the world, rather than being drawn into a blind, racist cul-de-sac. The Palestinian movement getting into bed with the nutters and thugs of the BNP-type extreme right, or even allowing space for them in our midst, will strengthen the Zionists by driving away our potential supporters. This is not rocket science. Allowing in the extreme right would be a sure own goal at a time when the Israelis are losing the battle for public opinion across Europe and most of the rest of the world. The Zionists have traditionally allied with the extreme-right – our hope is with the millions of decent people who hate oppression and racism. Keep the BNP and all those who endorse it at arm’s length. Or at boot’s length.
Israel Shamir is one who works assiduously to align the Palestine solidarity movement with the extreme right, including the Nazi-BNP. He says openly, “…we need the voices of Duke, Sobran, Raimondo, Buchanan, Mahler, Griffin and of other anti-bourgeois nationalists.” Decent people do not need the voices of Duke’s KKK or Griffin’s BNP. (All but one quote from Shamir’s website)
Shamir’s support for the extreme right is militant. He sides with the BNP ballet dancer, Simone Clarke, and smears anti-BNP protestors. He says that the BNP’s Clarke
“expressed her view that the country has enough immigrants, and the endless process of importing workers should slow down or even cease. Well, it is a view, certainly a reasonable one…Some crazy anti-racists went to demonstrate against the dancer’s being engaged in the Ballet. …for godless, obsessive Hitler-demonisers even such a moderate view may not be expressed…I do stand for Simone Clarke’s right to belong to BNP and to dance Giselle on the scene of English National Opera.”
How can any decent person think it is possible to demonise Hitler? Shamir obviously thinks the Fuhrer has had a bad press. Let’s agree with him and then ask for support for Palestine from Russians, Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Gays, Serbs, and the great majority of decent people everywhere.
But Shamir goes further: he chastises today’s BNP for becoming a bit too soft on Jews, and he has reluctantly felt compelled to this deviation of his ‘White Nationalist’ allies: "I do not feel at ease accusing you and your comrades of betraying the Britons and joining with the Jews.” He considers, however, that the BNP have fallen from the lofty heights of an earlier generation of Fascists and Nazis: he is outraged when one BNP-er claims that, ‘The BNP is NOT the heir to Oswald Mosley's fascists.’ Shamir denounces this backslider, on the grounds that
“there are many things for good and for bad to be said about the movements of 1930s, and it is not the place to do it. However, the far right of 1930s stood against what they considered 'Jewish onslaught', while you, Sir, join in it."
Shamir wants Palestinians, the ultimate victims of colonial dispossession and oppression, to ally with the extreme right. His website runs many articles to this effect, but I take only one by an ally, Joh Domingo. Shamir calls him “a strong and clear new voice”, for such pieces as “White Nationalists - a possible ally?” which explains “Why Zionism is Racism but antisemitism is not." Domingo paints the KKK sympathetically, and also "David Duke, the ex-Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, who struggles to maintain his livelihood and culture in his own land…" The KKK may be “rogues” (what a gentle description of those who hanged thousands of black people from trees in the US), but Domingo excuses these murderers, on the grounds that the
"antisemitism of White Nationalists (called White Supremacy by their adversaries) is a reaction to Jewish racist assertion in White societies…From a White-Nationalist point of view, it can be seen to be a moral imperative and necessary to combat the Jewish war against their values and heritage."
Not that Domingo and Shamir are ignorant of their ally's record: “David Duke was the grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. They hanged black people from tree trunks. What they did was however small change compared to what the Ku Klux Knesset does on a daily basis. Today the White Nationalists are downtrodden and discriminated-against people in America.” Pity the poor US Nazis!
In case anybody missed the point that what is proposed is a KKK-Palestinian alliance, Domingo’s “strong and clear voice” spells it out on Shamir’s website: “It is not White Racist Supremacist oppressing Palestinians. If I were a Palestinian, the White Nationalists would be my legitimate ally.”
Back to one example of Shamir in his own voice, this time rooting for Le Pen in France: there are too many black players in the French football team, don’t you know. For Shamir, black people are not really ‘native’ French: Zinedine Zidane was born in France, but that doesn’t seem to be enough: “Blacks indeed are well endowed in sports and music, like the Greeks of Homer, but maybe the native French are also interested and are entitled to play football in their own team.” Continuing on the theme of contrasting “black” with “French”, Shamir places racism way ahead of love of the game in his slander of the mass of French people: “if all football players were black, maybe the native French will not be interested enough even to watch football anymore.” Quick, kick out the blacks and bring in “native French.” Luckily the French seem to be ignoring Shamir and Le Pen, and continuing to support the best team available in international competitions.
Shamir is in perfect solidarity with Gilad Atzmon, and the intense admiration is returned: “What I love about Eisen, Shamir, Blankfort and many others, rather than talking in the name of the Jews they talk in the name of reason and ethics.”* Both Shamir and Atzmon agree that the enemy is not really Zionism itself, but the Jewish essence which creates Zionism. Deriding any notion that Zionism might be a strategic asset of the US and Europe, both see Zionism as inherent in Jewishness, which becomes the main enemy. Shamir uses language that reminds one of the ranting of the person he doesn’t want to “demonise” when he adds in the same article about Gilad Atzmon, that "it is a question of spirit, the Judaic spirit we find at the basis of Zionism."
Griffin-supporter Shamir doesn’t stint in his praise for Atzmon: “Our friends Gilad Atzmon, Paul Eisen and Mary Rizzo are the shining stars of the battle, and they are doing good by defeating the adversary…Gilad takes up the tools of modern philosophical discourse ... to explain our position: why we are against domination by Judaic spirit." In line with Domingo’s “strong and clear voice” asserting that “We must deny the concept of Holocaust without doubt and hesitation,” Shamir gives Gilad a pat on the head, because "Gilad correctly stated that ‘holocaust denier’ is but a Zionist term." Nick “Griffin and of other anti-bourgeois nationalists”, the voices that Shamir says we need, would agree, even though the BNP are attracted to Israel’s militarism and racism. They drool at the Israeli jackboot on the Palestinian neck and one million Israeli/US cluster bombs transported through Scotland and dropped on Arab towns and villages in Lebanon.
Palestinians need mass support – it won’t come by associating ourselves with extreme-right sympathisers who miss no opportunity to spew their racist bile into a movement for human and national rights for the Palestinian people groaning under Zionism, which is armed and sustained by western imperialism. Not a Jewish world conspiracy. One of these ideas is the natural discourse of the left and liberal centre: one is a blind cul-de-sac propagated by the extreme right.
Mick Napier
I have had to answer an email sent to me by mary rizzo,
here is my reply -
Comment
attached to weblog article -
Gilad Atzmon - From Esther to Birkenau, From Esther to AIPAC (Purim Special)
the following is from Ramzy Baroud:
http://www.kibush.co.il/show_fil...e.asp?
num=18710
However, instead of confronting the Zionist scheme that has brought such untold harm to the image of one of the greatest and oldest monotheistic faiths by holding Israel and its associates to account, there is a growing an alarming trend where members of the peace and justice movement have themselves fallen into the ominous trap: engaging in most ruinous and consuming scuffles, isolating members and entire groups for allegedly being anti-Semitic. While taking a moral stance against racism in all of its forms is a requisite to for any genuine peace and justice activist, the intense debate in some instances is reaching such grievous points that is threatening to tear apart the peace and justice movement.
A most notable example is the quarrel in the United Kingdom between members of Jews against Zionism and those of Deir Yassin Remembered; the former, accusing members of the latter of anti-Semitism, is endorsing a motion at an upcoming conference of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign that would ostracize the Deir Yassin group from the peace and justice movement. Members of both groups have spoken out strongly against the maltreatment of Palestinians in the past and both have a lot to offer PSC and its various activities. However, the motion, but the entire episode is a continuation of an alarming trend that began in the US several years ago, and has consumed activists, distracting them from the real fight. Moreover, it is dangerously compromising constructive dialogue and freedom of speech, the lack thereof has historically sidelined the pro Palestinian voice for decades. If members of both groups are unable to work jointly and sort out their differences through dialogue, then they should refrain from taking their fights to the public, as has been the case in Britain, in ways that are demoralizing the entire movement. It also ought to be noted that as far as Israel is concerned, any criticism of its occupation of the West Bank, no matter how polite or subtle, is an unforgivable form of anti-Semitism; thus there is no need for any member of the peace and justice movement to exasperate the Israeli witch hunt. Indeed, Israel is more than capable of prolonging such campaigns on its own.
Anyway you can catch them at Co-Comment by clicking the button at the bottom left corner of the comment box marked "CO."
Cheers
It's all as I expected - nothing of any intellectual content worth addressing myself to.
Anti-racism is always sickening to racists and zionist shit-stirrers.
I'm not to bothered about co-comments at the mo - I've never used it myself - maybe some time soon.
ps
I do believe the surly churls of Auld Reekie (Edinburgh) have hung, drawn and quartered Roland Rance, the judifier, on Carlton Hill and are at this moment, parading his head on a spike round the city walls!
Given the verbage now dumped on the particular thread I have been posting to on her weblog, I thought for clarity's sake, and because I think I make some important points which shouldn't be lost sight of, you wouldn't mind me using your comments section to post a copy of my reply on.
comments
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marxist rabbis...judification...jewish power
- the use of this neonazi terminology, and the person who used them, have yet to be denounced by you. This tells me all I have to know about how much you care for Palestine and those trying to help them. This is a gift to your friends in Tel Aviv. Talk about taking the focus away from Palestinians.
How much more mud are you going to give to the current corrupt racist regime of Israel to throw at the Palestinian solidarity movement?
Anyone who publicly publishes private correspendonce in order to blackmail others to shut them up, rather than deal with their arguments, is someone nobody would want in a movement devoted to justice.
Objecting to the particular publicly available internet blogs and messege boards I use isn't an argument against neo-nazism. As anyone can see by the reaction I have got on this weblog of yours, it is no wonder I prefered to go elsewhere and tell others involved in the struggle for peace and justice between Palestinians and Jewish-Israelis, about the neo-nazism on your weblog.
And you sent me the email to which I am now responding, remember? - I didn't get in touch with you, but now you are objecting to me publishing my arguments (rather than using straightforward smears and blackmail tactics) in public.
I don't believe in appeasement and neither do I think Jewish people should voluntarily commit collective suicide, as you and your kind seem to be advocating.
Jewish power controls America but it didn't manage to get a few resolutions passed at some obscure meeting at the weekend. somewhere in Scotland - they're going to have to re-think their plans for world domination.
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Thanks for your time and patience Mark!
btw - the agm on saturday was the PSC UK agm not the SPSC agm...
that changes everything completely.
Poor Roland - if you've ever seen the end of the film 'Braveheart' by Mel Gibson, then you'll know exactly what Londoners do to you, if they don't like the cut of your jib.
After years of being exposed to pro-English propaganda, I couldn't quite believe it myself, I have to confess!
I was going to send this to Roland as well -
Huge hit for Edinburgh short film
- as a wee reminder of his visit to the Athens of the North.
all the best!
The problem with Shamir is his desire to sanitize Duke. Duke got a face lift and cleaned up his vocabulary a bit, mimicking mainstream politicians here. Shamir wants to help Duke duck a past he does not renounce.
Shamir now says that anti racism is a Jewish idea and he has taken down references to his one time opposition to racism and apartheid from his web site. Of course in the US, where Duke comes from, Duke has no power to oppress anyone. Blacks and Latinos are oppressed by mainstream politics often represented by Jews, and mainstream (and often Jewish owned or managed) media like the New York Daily News who Duke copied in his attack against the Black people of New Orleans.
I don't think Domingo corresponds with Shamir any more and hasn't for a while.
Shamir is not Atzmon, by the way. Atzmon has done none of these things.
I see the self-publicists have been given a hand by their old mate, Jeff Blankfort, at
Palestine: Information with Provenance (PIWP database)
- who writes a lot of the commentary for the entries to the database.
I didn't go looking for this -
If these are the enemies, who needs friends?
- I just stumbled across it on today's splash page, which gives info on the latest additions and updates.
I couldn't really care less myself.
No, Atzmon has merely racially abused and lied about various people for condemning Israel Shamir
I say-
1- Show me.
2- Define racial abuse.
"If Palestinians felt that Duke could aid their struggle would not that be their own business and not yours or mine?"
if I was being beaten up and threatened with a knife and this Duke character came round the corner, I would welcome his help.
If I walked round the corner and someone was getting a good thumping and his life was in danger, and even if I knew the victim was this Duke bloke, I would try to help them all I could.
What you are asking is just a meaningless ethical thought experiment, Eugene.
Exactly, at this moment in time and given how things stand, of what possible use or benefit could this Adolf Puke be to anyone?
If Mr Puke could, by uttering a magic spell, bring about universal peace and justice and right all wrongs, then that is fine by me. If he has this within his power then I would want him to use it, despite his anti-politics (I don't consider fascism or nazism to be real politics).
The fact is, the man is a waste of space and a non-entity.
- what would have happened if the Israeli government had responded positively to calls for peaceful negotiations from the PLO, instead of attacking and invading Lebanon in 1982 in order to destroy the PLO and any chance of the very likelyhood of a breakthrough in the 'Middle East Process'?
- or what would happen if the Israeli government responds to current calls for negotiations from Syria by sending a negotiating team instead of bombers?
Olmert's Testimony to Winograd
The Real Goal of Israel's War on Lebanon
By Jonathan Cook
- or what if occupied Palestinians were to democratically elect a Marxist party into government in the next election - would the Cosmic Eminence, for instance, still support the will of the Occupied Palestinian People ?
now people who only want to see peace and justice for Palestinians (and Jewish-Israelis) are having to field questions about the usefulness of neo-nazis and holocaust deniers in our efforts to help Palestinians (who are first in our list of ethical priorities, for entirely obvious reasons).
Edward Said will be turning in his grave! - just a reminder, he said we should be trying to build bridges and trying to understand the others point of view. Time and again Edward says you cannot understand Jewish-Israelis if you don't appreciate the Nazi Holocaust!
The anti-Apartheid movement inside South Africa specifically targeted white South Africans to help in the struggle for justice, peace and freedom. And you'll notice that South Africa is still there. It isn't destroyed and neither are white South Africans. Regime change is all I am asking for myself. Nothing else. Then we shall see what we shall see!
Eugene mate,
if you want a second opinion I suggest you visit the weblog I mention above, where you will find people there who don't regard your question as an empty meaningless exercise.
"Define racial abuse" - don't be silly Eugene. You know what I mean, so don't waste my time with silly games. You've already jumped through lots of disingenuous hoops for Atzmon. Go do it somewhere else.
And what the fuck is this?
"If Palestinians felt that Duke could aid their struggle would not that be their own business and not yours or mine?" What are you talking about? My support for the Palestinian cause is unconditional. I've said so many times. Duke's a red herring here. What you mean to say is "why don't you let western racists, especially antisemitic Jews, use a legitimate solidarity movement against some Jews as a vehicle for their racism against all Jews and other racial inferiors?" Doesn't scan as well but that is what you're saying. Now stop wasting my time.
Thanks
You don't get to decide who is and is not part of a solidarity movement that supports Palestine. This is what you cannot grasp.
David Duke is a red Herring dragged into this thread by Mr. Napier, not by me. I was replying to him. No doubt he will appreciate you taking the matter on for him.
You did a lengthy comment here some time back that I couldn't be bothered to read. It might have been there that you accepted that your assertion that all Atzmon did was notice a disproportionate number of Jews in the American establishment was wrong. It might have been there that you acknowledged that Atzmon's criticism of Michael Rosen was based on antisemitic lies including doctoring his (Rosen's) writing to make it look like Rosen is opposed to assimilation when he actually said we should be neutral on the question. Maybe it was that comment where you acknowledged that Atzmon is being more than a little inconsistent if his only beef is against those Jews who resist assimilation when he (Atzmon) isn't assimilated himself and his professed favourite Jews are the determinedly anti-assimilation Neturei Karta and most of Atzmon's targets are assimilated Jews. I mean all these things are possible given that I didn't read the comment. But I suspect you simply ignored my exposé of Atzmon's lies and yours and now you're projecting your dishonesty on to me.
Anyway, I don't know why you would come here to reply to Mick Napier. It is Shamir who supports Duke and it is Atzmon who attacks people (Jews that is) for condemning Shamir. You then come up with a ludicrous question about if Palestinians "felt" that Duke was good for their cause. You're an attention seeking wanker. First you set yourself up as an anti-zionist Jew. Then you realised that there were many of those so you had to be an antisemitic Jew. By your own admission you didn't know that most establishment history was a pack of lies until you got the internet. So now you claim to believe anything as long as it doesn't accord with the establishment's professed view, which is about as honest as yours.
Now go back to your project you fat fuck.
That "go back to your project" stuff. So elitist. Speaking of "fucks" when is the last time you had a decent "fuck"? No doubt too long ago.
You can't handle truth. It makes you crazy.
All "war talk" I suppose because you're such a courageous fighter for Palestine.
You know perfectly well that my mention of the project was a reference to your old blog and the fat stuff was also a reference to your old blog or are you going to lie about that too. And calling someone a "fuck" is hardly freudian. I thought it was an Americanism.
But still, you carry on pushing your attention seeking line, but you're wasting your time here. Since leaving Lenin's Tomb my hits are down to an average of about 300 a day. And Mary Rizzo seems to get less than me. Try Lenin's Tomb. He gets about 2,000 hits a day, maybe more. Explain to the readers of Lenin's Tomb that Atzmon was justified in doctoring Michael Rosen's writing in order to portray the latter as a zionist in accordance with Atzmon's meaningless definition. Explain to the readers of Lenin's Tomb that Atzmon was right to say that whether or not the protocols are a forgery or not is irrelevant. Go on, go for it. See if you're accepted there. After all, the SWP accepts Atzmon knowing him to be a lying racist. Perhaps one of their members will accept you. Oh, and don't forget to point them in the direction of Atzmon's article headed the "protocols." That's the one where he attacked named anti-zionist Jews for condemning Israel Shamir.
If the truth hurt me Eugene, I'd happily deal with you and Atzmon all day every day.
You've had a couple of supporters here already tonight. I think one was the BNP supporter Sarah Gillespie and the other was from the same IP as the Atzmon sock puppet "One People." You can catch up with them on co-comment. That's the button at the bottom right hand corner.
But I'm done with you now.
SG: ????????????? I prefer Nazis to be up explicit racists like Griffin rather than mass murdering pseudo liberals like Blair but by no stretch of the imagination am I a supporter of the BNP. Sorry to disappoint you! (I quite like Swan Lake – does that count?)
You're a nasty piece of work and a lying piece of shit but not, it seems, a BNP supporter. Apologies.
- That unsubstantiated allegation is from a re-heated 'Engage' article, a link to which, was posted just recently on the racistly fanatical 'Harry's Place' bog.
Maybe this is the offending article the HP stooge is refering to -
Mercaz HaRav - a training centre for illegal occupation, murder and "Arabs to the Gas Chambers"
SPSC
03 July 2008
The racists at Harry's Toilet couldn't come up with any other dirt to throw at the Scottish Palestine Solidarity Campaign regarding its protest and boycott of the IDF gunmen appearing with violins at the weekend in Edinburgh -
Palestine group charged after disrupting concert by Israelis'
Edinburgh Evening News
30 August 2008
Also try -
Jerusalem Quartet'
SPSC
all the best!
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