Bush lied, Bush lied, Bush lied,...

War for oil, war for oil, war for oil,...

Rove is a crook, Rove is a crook,...

Halliburton, Halliburton,....


It comes down to this one thing. Lets wait for the trial and if he is guilty then we talk about it. Until the trial it is all moot anyway.

BRT did get one point right. Our judicial system is Innocent until proven guilty. So lets just wait and see a bit since any attempts to convict him before the trial are just another "Talking Point".


Hida, you missed the point.

We aren't discussing his guilt nor innocence, that's for the judicial system.

We are talking about the baseless charges the Right is putting forward.

How about someone provide me some evidence.

Please present the "compelling" evidence and NOT opinion that the charge is:

1. phony, trumped up
2. a political vendetta
3. has no chance of sticking

Get to it, support the claims.


awesome mikey!

My sentiments exactly...thanks for finally getting it sgo!


sgo - People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You are one of the chief sinners in forwarding baseless claims.

Here are just a few of your recent gems....

Today: Accused Bush and Co of attempting mind control "Repetition repetition repetition, standard procedure for mind control...It's a common tactic for BushCo and the Republicans too."

And further...

"It's their modus operandi. Ignore the reality, torture the messenger, and repeat repeat repeat"

PLEASE PROVE THESE ALLEGATIONS

Posted 9/23: "Yesterday the Dear Leader spoke. Old words came out of an old drunken mouth...."

PLEASE PROVE BUSH IS A DRUNK

Posted 9/15: "Tonight Bad Dog Karl's slight of hand and furious deception takes center stage on the symbolic pile of rubble the Preznit has been looking for."

PLEASE PROVE KARL'S INTENT WAS TO DECIEVE

Posted 9/11: "all the while the body count is "fixed around the politics", the reconstruction companies are hired, the people are herded into camps, dispersed around the country, Bills are passed without debate, Supreme Court Justices are chosen ... the list goes on and on."

TAKE YOUR PICK AND PROVE IT.


The burden of proof sgo is the one making the accusations. Or do you live on a different planet?

Whats the charge anyway?


Whats the charge anyway?

That you and the other fucktard slimeballs who support the incompetent and corrupt slimeballs who currently run the US government are fucktard slimeballs.

Why do you ask?

Loser.


i wasnt talking to you you racist pondscum sucking pig of an irishman


Mark , once again digresses to namecalling and diversion when he doesnt have a clue what else to spew.
Next sgo will step in with his worthless two cents to straighten me out..bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


"Take you pick and prove it"

Why didn't I think of that. The hosee turns the nozzle back on the hoser.

By the way, sgo, I'm really not going to play your game-been down that road before.

Let's just put it this way-the truth will out.

My money's on Delay based on the "compelling evidence" I've been listening to this afternoon.
Damn right it was on the O'Reilly and Hannity shows, you didn't think I'd pick up anything that made any sense on Airhead America I hope.

Common sense redux: Let's just put it this way-the truth will out.


My money's on Delay based on the "compelling evidence" I've been listening to this afternoon.

No game BRT... what's the evidence they had?
You know I wouldn't be listening to the O'Reilly and Hannity shows.

fill me in...


Your new Troll is cute, I think he is a keeper!


Going after Mark or SGO does little to nothing in these parts. You people that do not agree with our values, our views and our way of thinking ought to know a couple things by now.

Simply researching previous posts by a poster here and nailing quotes to the wall for "truth" and "proof" is bogus. Read the posts and click on the links supplied on it. If you don't agree with someone here do not expect a litany of "proof points" back at you. The truth is in the post. Or the author's interpretation of the truth is in the post. Debate yes, pointless blather and arguments, no. Don't just ask questions on quotes from a post...express what you feel makes the post an untruth. Can you reach deep into your dome and find something intelligent to comment with?

Delay'd Reaction...

I've lived in Texas long enough to know that politics is a blood sport here like no other place in the country. You people outside the state have no idea. Google Molly Ivins sometime and read her stories. If not for the truth then for the entertainment value.

Delay personally oversaw the redistricted Texas' federal congressional lines for the benefit of the republican count in the house and senate. Flat out truth. To do this he funnelled money (corporate money through "trimpac" - a pretty lean pac name for a fat guy from Midland - I smell Rovian input) into state elections which propped up the republican count to a majority in the state house. This allowed him to get legeslation passed to allow the redistricting before the normal time it has always been done. After the census is published every ten years.

So...there is plenty of dirt to throw around over this and I commend anyone willing to stand up to Delay and his cronies. Trimpac was his baby...is his baby...the baby's dad needs a good legal whippin'. I can't wait for the trial.

Entertainment at it's best.

JimmyTheVet
And it doesn't mean dog doctor.


Not sure about that sonic we've been training it but it keeps on failing even the pre-troll 101 tests. The silly little thing can't help showing it's true trollish nature and it hates the fact that we've caught it making blatantly racist comments. It hates the fact that we've caught in really stupid lies.

It hates the fact that we tolerate it's presence here. It's hates knowing that its such a loser that it must depend on us. That must really rankle.

We'll probably keep it 'though. We don't like to upset the good folk over at People for Ethical Treatment of Trolls


Reading Dave and Mikey, you see the kind of speudo-logic it takes to believe in 'Intelligent Design'. It's also a kind of fake moral-relativism. Moral-relativism is bad enough as it is, but there it's just faked in order to present an argument that seems critical.
"You accused my guy of lying, doesn't matter if it's true or not, let's be fair & balanced, you must have lied too!"


"You know I wouldn't be listening to the O'Reilly and Hannity shows."

Well that's the problem, sgo. No wonder the bat colony lists so far left that the S.S. Kerry was throwing up bubbles in the last election.

Take on a bit of ballast people, or end up at the bottom of the river like the Fanny Farmer Elementary school entry in the Great Cardboard Boat race again in 2006.

Get out of the grotto at least once a week; breathe some clean fresh air and clear the guano fumes out of your little bat minds.

Tune in Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Bill Bennett
or any of a dozen other sane, rational and common sense people who speak for the vast majority of Americans.

Hell, I hold my nose and read the Daily Kos, Arianna(Fetch my Ferrari and my brain, Charles) Huffinpuff, Wetdreams.org., PimplesfortheAmericanWay,Bowelmovement.organism and any number of other left wing blogs almost every day, just to keep up with the latest vectors the bat minds are spinning off on.

If you'd do the same with the wingnut blogs I've mentioned you wouldn't have to ask du--sorry--"such" questions and maybe you folks might actually pick up a fact or two, even an antidote for what ails you. :=)


bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
dave | Email | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 5:26 pm | #

The other problem sonic is that it has an embarassing personal problem. It keeps on bellowing when it's straining at stool. We're a bit worried about that a troll rupturing itself is never a pretty sight. What do you think we should do? Should we get Jeff Gannon into to unblock the poor little thing? Apparently business ain't been too good lately so he's available.


Simply researching previous posts by a poster here and nailing quotes to the wall for "truth" and "proof" is bogus


SO you are only as good as your last post, is that it topjimmy?


sirk thats the first post ive seen you make without using the term japs.

Im sure your racist pompass friend the irishman will set you straight though..he has HIGH standards. bwahaaa


Good night folks.

Good night little loser racist troll who can't cope with reality


brt ... come on fill me in... what was the "compelling evidence" ?


The post should be rinse RATHER and repeat..Dan Rather's texas connection.....you guessed it folks!


Dave, Dave, Dave...

You go off point so easily.

And in such an entertaining, kindergarten sort of way.

BRT -

I cruise all sides of the blog-o-rama too. Probably not as nearly as long as you do while waiting for the 12 noon cocktail hour.

What strikes me is the fact that comments are blocked on many, MANY of the right sided blogs.

(Dave and Michelle - you could look that up).

You'll never find the comments section turned off to you here. Or even turned off to our turd blossom in waiting, the remarkably funny Dave and the equally "he hates everything [we say here]" Mikey. They may continue to embarass themselves at their own peril for as long as their two fingered typing style holds up.

Oh the joys of it all.


JV said "If you don't agree with someone here do not expect a litany of 'proof points' back at you."

That was the point of copying sgo's posts in, JV. He was the one asking for proof.

SGO started it - nyah, nyah.


"Google Molly Ivins sometime and read her stories. If not for the truth then for the entertainment value."

Thanks for that Jimmy. Molly has never gotten over Ann Richards', you know, "George Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth" defeat by a serious candidate that didn't have to rely on sagebrush homilies and bone bred political hacks for success.

Molly is, understandably, pouting.

Good writer though and highly "entertaining".

If nothing, and I mean NOthing else......


The whole thing is a personal attack and the president will not comment until the investigation is complete...unless it makes him look good with his shirt buttoned completely wrong.


" cruise all sides of the blog-o-rama too. Probably not as nearly as long as you do while waiting for the 12 noon cocktail hour."

Really funny Jimmy. My usual drill: Up around 2:30-3:00 am to catch up on emails from our business clients, outfitters, and contacts, set up the schedule for the day, have a few cuppas and a sausage biscuit, check the evening news shows that I couldn't stay awake long enough for the night before, check all the comedy shows on the internet-the Kossies, Huffies, Cornpones, Vanden Huevels and such, take a few gulps of reality from Real Clear Politics, Hugh Hewitt, Townhall columnists, Cherenkoff, NewsMax, Powerline, Front Page and others-then plunge into this one to see what the bats have been up to in messing up the room while the adults were
asleep.

Back to bed around 6 a.m. before I get up around
7:30 and start the real world business day of trying to operate our sporting travel business involving several hundred sportsmen clients that want to know everything from visa requirements in Paraguay, Bolivia and Budapest to State Department warnings for travel in Spain, Peru and Chechnia, to what color socks to wear in Entre Rios, the size of the peacock bass in Panama, air travel schedules and vaccination requirements for Tanzania and Botswana, market ing and promotion, billing, collecting, banking, dunning for payment, final itineraries for trips all the way from Alberta to the Arctic Circle, etc. etc. ad squirrel cage finitem.....

During the day I might fire off a post or two(roll a grenade into the grotto), post a coin sale or so on Ebay, fill the bird feeders, rake the lawn, check on the grandkids, make a bank- post office- grocery store run, fix supper when it's my night, then check on the Braves and crawl into the sack around 8 p.m, gearing up for the cycle all over again 6 days a week.

Just the way it is; 60 plus hours a week and I actually enjoy at least 50 of them.

Not much time for, what was that?, "noon cocktails" however.........:=)


Dave said: sirk thats the first post ive seen you make without using the term japs.

Im sure your racist pompass friend the irishman will set you straight though..he has HIGH standards. bwahaaa


That's right, I forgot that after Pearl Harbor you would've attacked Trinidad & Tobago instead of Japan.

BRT, I hope when you say sane people, you don't mean THAT Bill Bennett here: http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/ 200509280006 (with quotes in full context). And I don't want an explanation, just yes or no, is he sane or not?


Bill Bennett is more sane than any of us posting here (self included).


I love to watch Politics induced mass Hysteria as one side defends their topic with little or no real info to prove anything.

Ok, to respond to things brought up.

1. Yes both sides are now pointing fingers at the other side crying foul.

Sounds like business as usual.

2. Neither side has any proof of anything other than each party is calling the other liars publicly.

Nothing new here.

3. Delay has been removed from power until the grand jury indictment is over with.

Ok so what is everyone on this site complaining about you won one right?

4. As for BRT's compelling evidence I bet it has a political spin put on it so it will drop like a lead weight on this site and be ignored regardless of content.

So he chooses not to bring it out as to be ignored or picked apart.

5. The comment about mind control. Not the first time that either side has mentioned that the only reason the other side could defend an obviously (from their take on things) hopeless point of view is by brainwashing.

Let me point out that Humanity in general is a herd animal that will move together and follow the rest of the group more often than not.

6. The random name calling of "dave" both by him and against him is lowering the standards on this site. Just ignore him and let him wallow in his own rhetoric. Remember "Do not feed the Trolls" it just encourages them to keep on posting. Even if he is a little weak for a troll. Hell I do a better job of it.


Some trolls never give up though, that's what trollslayers are for: http://home.hetnet.nl/ ~hobgoblin...0mordslayer.htm


Hida, good points but I disagree with several.

#1. Both sides crying foul. True, but certainly not offsetting fouls. Delay was indicted by a Grand Jury and charged with a serious crime and HE cries that it's only a partisan attack. I cry foul because the Delay and Right have presented no evidence that this is partisan attack and are using the technique of repetition to create a false public perception of the issue. Furthermore their cries of "partisan attack" is in itself a partisan attack.

#2. Proof? hmm... I believe I presented information that Earle has went after more Dems than Repubs. What more do I need to present? But shouldn't the shoe be on the other foot so to speak?

#3. Fact - The Left wins nothing - America wins.

#4. "The compelling evidence" It's a copout to say it will be ignored regardless of content. How about someone present the darn content and see where it leads?

#5. The comment about mind control - Please re-read my original post. I don't claim the republicans are using mind control. I state that a feature used in mind control (brainwashing) is repetition. The Republicans implementation of this technique or feature (repetition) is well known. It's taught in their seminars regarding message disipline. My point was simply that repetition sans evidence eliminates the need to provide any evidence.

#6. Dave who?


sgo - not very good points. I disagree with several

#1 You cry foul because the right has provided no proof that it's a partisan attack, yet no proof of anything has been presented against Delay. Double standard.

#2 What does it prove that Earle has gone after more Dems than Repubs? Dems are more crooked?

#3 No - Dems win... for now.

#4 No disagreement there

#5 I would say it's more well know that the Dems use repetition of baseless accusations than Repubs.


Mikey,

#1 - those are two separate issues.
But we all know that evidence must be provided to a Grand Jury to obtain an indictment.

#2 - It proves that the evidence does not support claims that Earle is a known partisan prosecutor.

#3 - You think the Dems Win I think America wins.
Why do you hate America Mikey?

#4 - We agree... great... So where *is* this compelling evidence of partisanship?

#5 - yes yes,, Pot Kettle Black...

~


Earle is a standup honest man. The city of Austin and Travis County are home to a number of truth telling law abiding folks and he is one of them. Fortunately for all of us he is in a position as county prosecuter to go after those who feel they are above the law. Delay has been shifting cash from cookie jar to cookie jar for decades. Not touching the cash physically but directing his band of merry r.w. men and women to put the money where the boss wants it. So what makes this unlawful mob type act any more for distinctive than the numerous other bad behaviors by politicians in the lone star state? Nothing. He just was too confident and felt he had it made. I am serious here. He has alot of trouble in front of him. I'm sure he's got some frequent flyer miles saved up for his trips from DC to Austin. Or is spinpac paying for it?

And the complaints of partisanship being the sole reason for the indictments? If you believe that then my answer to you is troll-like:

So? Prove he didn't do it.


That's a good question, why does Mickey hate America?


"So where *is* this compelling evidence of partisanship?"

I'm not doing your homework for you, sgo. I told you where to find it but, no, mama won't let me listen to O'Reilly, Hannity or Limbaugh and I think she might have put a block on my access to Hugh Hewitt, Powerline, Captain's Quarters and any other blog that eminates outside the grotto.:=)

Seriously, I'm not playing your "but WHY?", " I know but WHY?!" " I know you are but what am I?" game. Been there, done that.

Truth, as always, will out. Seek and ye shall find...


Who in their right mind would listen to Limbaugh? He's a full-blown hater. He hates way too much and spreads hate. That's why I don't listen to him... but I do check out Hannity&Colms occasionally. It's funny to watch them get into childish shouting matches so that they don't have to hear the otherside's point of view. They might as well be going "lalalala, I can't hear you!". *giggles*

Mostly I get my righty news from RWN and Redstate. (RWN being the extreme end and Redstate being somewhat less extreme, IMO) And my mid-ground news from the Moderate voice... I used to check out Centerfield but the name turned out to be a complete misnomer.

I don't expect I'll hear the evidence for or against, the only people who really have to worry about that are the prosecution and defense attys.

Besides according to someone on Redstate (or was it RWN?), repubs wanted the old dinosaur to retire anyways, so what's the big deal?


sgo

#1 - Delay claims he has evidence that Earle is politically motivated. Earle claims he has evidence that DeLay did something illegal. No proof on either side. A grand jury indictment doesn't prove anything. If it was illegal to be "politically motivated," I'm sure Earle would have been indicted.

#2 - It doesn't prove any such thing. What if we later find out that Earle only went after 50% of the Dems he found out about?

#3 - "Why do you hate America Mikey?" Gotta love it. Don't forget to blather and repeat. I demand proof!

#4 - same place the evidence against DeLay is.

#5 - yes, yes, shoe fits... (see #3)


Rhiannon...are you saying you HATE the godfather?


Godfather?


"It doesn't prove any such thing. What if we later find out that Earle only went after 50% of the Dems he found out about?"

If you or any other sane and rational person posting here has time, Mikey, you might check the size of the gene pool in Texas--i.e just how many Democrats there are to indict compared to the number of Republicans.

Democrats, because of the sheer volume of their base, may well be under represented in the
Texas docks and pokeys....


Mikey you got nothing.

BRT you are using the same copout you always do...

Dave who?


Delay claims he has evidence that Earle is politically motivated.

Delay has said no such thing. He made statements without supporting evidence.

You are pulling this right out of your ass Mikey and that's not good enough.


"Mikey you got nothing"

Prove it.


"Prove it."

Jack Palance-"Shane"-circa 1953

Caaaaareful now, sgo :=)


Prove it.

Ok... just this once...

the proof

Now....Mikey go and ask your stupid questions on your own blog ok... I'm not here for you or to answer to silly wingnut deflections...


have u seen these 2 free anti war / bush / blair songs? at www.theusedjohnnys.com


You go SGO! Damn this is enjoyable I'd almost forgo the dinner with old friends tonight to watch the infiltrators from wingnutistan get pounded because their distraction tactics don't work. Almost but not quite - the outcome is a foregone conclusion. I'll just enjoy the meal that much more knowing that for an extra dessert, when I get home, I'll get to see the smear merchants getting cheesed*

*Like getting creamed but slower and a lot more painful.


"I'm not here for you or to answer to silly wingnut deflections"

I know you're not here for that sgo. You're here to repeat lefty conspiracies and to promote the religion of moonbatianity.

I am here to provide one voice of reason in a moonbat world that's gone mad! It is my duty to battle the proliferation of equivocation; To weed out the defecation of disinformation and misrepresentation caused by the moonbat nation.

And let's not forget - to promote truth, justice, and the American way!


Mikey says: to promote truth, justice, and the American way!

Wow..Look over here

~


You can't prove a negative. God's a giant lobster, prove he isn't.


One man's Reason is another man's madness.

Keep in mind that the American way has been one of violence since the day our country was forged.

Only until we developed an isolationist mentality as a country did we not stick our noses into every conflict on the planet.

That was only possible since we had assimilated or killed everyone in our country that was not ready to go along and we still had a bloody Civil war due to our differences.

Then FDR and WWII got us back in the game and we have been deep into the shit of everyone’s problems ever since.

Now I am not saying that we did not need to be in WWII or that FDR was totally wrong regardless of how I feel about his politics. But since our leaders got it into their heads that they are the most powerful country in the world we have been involved with everything.

We damn near feed most of the planet with our money. We support governments that could not survive without us. We act as a deterrent to countries that want to expand and crush their weak neighbors. We do a lot of good in the world that most people ignore in the media.

But we need leaders that are not so power hungry as to lead us down a path of self destruction.


What's "power hungry" about wanting to wipe out the assholes who are trying to kill us and anybody else that doesn't agree with their pre-medieval religious dogma and their barbaric disregard for human life Hida?


"We damn near feed most of the planet with our money. We support governments that could not survive without us. We act as a deterrent to countries that want to expand and crush their weak neighbors. We do a lot of good in the world that most people ignore in the media."

Amen.

Is it "power hungry" or is "the right thing to do?" I'm sure both are happening, but where are we in the balance between the two?


BRT, if we set out on a campaign to wipe Islamic radicals from the planet then get out your nukes and start turning places into glass.

We can not attack a way of life that is counter to our own without understanding that the death toll would be incredible.

Regardless of how patriotic a person is to the USA there is another person in a forign country that is just as dedicated and serious about protecting his religion and way of life(Regardless of how warped from the original it is) to the death.

Are you willing to kill millions of people down to the last man, women, and child? Because that is what it would take to do what you want.


I found a song the reminds me of what is going on.

Mad World - Gary Jules
All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places
Worn out faces
Bright and early for the daily races
Going no where
Going no where
Their tears are filling up their glasses
No expression
No expression
Hide my head I wanna drown my sorrow
No tomorrow
No tomorrow
And I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I’m dying are the best I’ve ever had
I find it hard to tell you
I find it hard to take
When people run in circles its a very very
Mad world
Mad world
Children waiting for the day they feel good
Happy birthday
Happy birthday
And I feel the way that every child should
Sit and listen
Sit and listen
Went to school and I was very nervous
No one knew me
No one knew me
Hello teacher tell me what’s my lesson
Look right through me
Look right through me
And I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I’m dying are the best I’ve ever had
I find it hard to tell you
I find it hard to take
When people run in circles its a very very
Mad world
Mad world
Enlarging your world
Mad world


Damn Hida. I said the assholes who want to kill us-meaning....Al Queda. I also made that comment in response to your claim that we were being " power hungry".

I think you had the danged poem all locked and loaded, waiting for some poor wingnut to trip the trigger.....:=)


I'll bet he did too, BRT. He hangs onto things he thinks send an important message and then just unleashes them when he thinks they're important. Hoping to break through the walls of self-deceit others put around themselves.


or maybe he just likes screwing with peoples heads... I never quite figured it out myself.


Al Queda is only a fraction of the problem and you know it. The real problem is the mis-education of a large portion of Islam.

Local priests can twist the meaning of the words written for guidance into we must hate all who are different.

Every child that sees an American soldier kill a friend, mother, father, brother, ect is just waiting to grow up to be our next Suicide bomber.

It would be just as bad to try to control what is being taught because that would drive the Radicals underground even more.

Its a circle of violence BRT, there will not be an end to it anytime soon.


I guess we could go back to the Boer War and forward to infinity with that kind of thing, Hida.

I'm not talking about the desire on the part of individuals. I'm talking about the organization, tools and financing to be a viable and formidable threat--Al Queda and a bunch of others.

I agree that it will not end anytime soon but we'd better be fighting it as if it would mean the end for thousands, if not millions of our people-soon.

What our presence in the Middle East is all about and why we need to stay there until the job is done. "The job" meaning a democracy that we have a dialogue with instead of a facist state that is a breeding and training ground for the head loppers of the world.


"maybe he just likes screwing with peoples heads... I never quite figured it out myself."

That's cause he's screwing with your head Rhiannon....


Har dee har har, BRT.


Rhiannon...which side of the fence will you be on the next time we get hit. Does it depend on how hard? What has to happen before we react in ways you dont want to fathom. If its a last resort, What state do we have to be in before that is the only option left?

Will hillary be the one to have to make the bad men stop? Do you think she has the balls to?

You seem to have a handle on what the problem is. What is the solution?

9/11 was a miserable day. Do you remember how you felt? Do you remember wanting to lash out at someone,something? Do you remember wanting to hug someone that was covered in the ashes and dust of the buildings that fell?

Magnify that feeling by a thousand. If the unimaginable happens. How do we react?


sorry i meant to adress that to hida


Thank God for Bill O'Reilly's anal vibrator of freedom, it shall show us the true path!


Woo Hoo!!! I get back from dinner with friends to find the wingnutistan contingent floundering in deep water again. unofrtunately it's just gone 4 in the moring here and anvil tossing* while fun when tired is even more fun when refreshed by sleep.

See you in a few hours people …

*My grateful Thanks to Mykeru for the delightful mental images


Dave, my reaction will be my own and no one else’s. I have no problem with revenge or preventive deaths. I have no problem in sending the willing to die against an enemy that can be perceived and fought.

But I do have a problem with people that want to use the pain of others to control and manipulate them into acts that are contrary to their desires and dreams. I have a problem with people that mindlessly follow the majority just to say they have some control over their worthless lives or because it is less painful.

Dave what you fail to see is that you are already on your way down a path of self destruction. You will follow blindly the words of any leader that happens to say the right things to you. You do not look beneath the surface to see the hunger for power that is in many of the politician's eyes.

They want that power regardless of the cost or pain they inflict on others to get it. Each time power is abused it is easier to abuse that power even if it is for the right reasons. After a while all reasons seem right to the ones in charge.

After all they have the power to change things in the world, why not use it?

And remember Dave to SMILE!


"See you in a few hours people …"

Oh, Goody!!!


so hida is the only correct thinking individual on the planet. Everyone else just follows the shepard. Just hida, noone else.

Must be nice to have the world revolving around you , eh hida?


No it must be nice when you close your fucking pie hole davey boy.

eh davey?


Ya know kid, if you would spend half the time on intelligent thinking that you do on being a practicing neandrethol in your debate skills this would have the possibility of being a nice cheerful place as it usually is.

Think about that a little before you start hunting and pecking again.

You seem to be at almost all times a brainless little shit head. I have to try to be a mean dispirited person. You roll out of the rack dripping it.


"So hida is the only correct thinking individual on the planet. Everyone else just follows the shepard. Just hida, noone else.

Must be nice to have the world revolving around you , eh hida?
dave | Email | Homepage | 10.01.05 - 10:39 pm |"

I never claimed to be correct or that everyone else is sheep, you did that. But I see more than a few walking a path trod by others just because they can not find one for themselves.

Let me be honest, my ideals are sick, twisted, bloody, and just plain outrageous. But in the end they are mine and not some parrot of another person's point of view.

Yours is filled with rhetoric and "Doublespeak". Sometimes I wonder if you have also mastered "Doublethink".

At the end of the day you sit at home comfortable, confident in your superiority. But I wonder if you ever have doubts? Have you faced the fear of being wrong, being mislead, lied to, or even taken advantage of?

I think the answer seems clear that in your posts you have taken comments seriously. Was it due to anger for being viciously attacked?

I can not answer for you nor will I try. I give my answer for others to see and they will understand it in their own way not mine.

And Dave do not forget to SMILE!


topjimmy you are so smart..Gosh im just in awe of you.


Your sarcasm needs work dave.

So how do you manage to hold on to yourself in that sea of mindless parroting?

Have you even once said something that has caused another person to rethink their position?

Its ok but you have to understand that mindless drones will be tolerated but mocked by everyone. Even your own side only puts up with you to have strength in numbers.

Drones almost never get to the top of anything; they live off the will of others to guide them.

And Dave do not forget to SMILE!


"I never claimed to be correct or that everyone else is sheep"

No but you claimed i was a sheep.
Who else ? anyone that is a republican by chance?


"Let me be honest, my ideals are sick, twisted, bloody, and just plain outrageous."

And you are proud of this? Actually i think you are wrong. ive not seen anything to suggest this. if anything you are typical.



"Have you faced the fear of being wrong, being mislead, lied to, or even taken advantage of?"

I am human yes.

"Drones almost never get to the top of anything; they live off the will of others to guide them."

You speak from experience.



And hida. FROWN once in a while wont you!


Davey, davey, davey... you're such a little prick. And I don't say that to everyone.


You make me feel special, all warm inside. thank you


Prick seems to be the standard around here..I feel welcome now!


"No but you claimed i was a sheep.
Who else ? anyone that is a republican by chance?"

Sheep respond to distress by bleeting out. They do not think they follow the masses. You might not be a sheep but you still follow the masses and only repeat what they say.


"Let me be honest, my ideals are sick, twisted, bloody, and just plain outrageous."

And you are proud of this? Actually i think you are wrong. ive not seen anything to suggest this. if anything you are typical.

Now here is a good one, someone wanting to call me typical.


1. I fully and truely hope that a natural disaster will wipe about 70% of the whole planet away so we can start over on this world.
2. I have no problem with a bloody revolution to overthrow the current way of life.
3. I understand that there is no difference in what either Republicans or Democrats do. The only thing that changes is why.

There is more but I will not agrue points that have nothing to do with poilitcs on this site.


"Have you faced the fear of being wrong, being mislead, lied to, or even taken advantage of?

I am human yes."

Good to know now show it a little more often and we will be even.

"Drones almost never get to the top of anything; they live off the will of others to guide them.

You speak from experience."

Yes I do, I know for a fact that it is very easy to follow others. It is so very hard to even try to stand alone and talk different than those around you.

"And hida. FROWN once in a while wont you!"

They day I stop frowning at the state of the world around me is the day I have lost my mind.

But you are free to SMILE! dave. Because in your world you are right and everyone else is 100% wrong.


"You might not be a sheep but you still follow the masses and only repeat what they say."

I have yet to see you say anything different from your 49%.


"someone wanting to call me typical."

I thought that might get your dander...you see i see right through your bs. You try too hard to put out the perception that you are somehow different. Im sorry , it is obviously a smokescreen for being typically boring.


"1. I fully and truely hope that a natural disaster will wipe about 70% of the whole planet away so we can start over on this world
2....3....blah blah"

Wow how extreme..lol. Im sure the others are quite proud of you. So how come if you are so different then you dont ever talk about libs? If you were really for 70% destruction, then you would be FOR our side. Arent we the warmonger,fucktheplanet types that you need to make your sick fantasy come true?


"Good to know now show it a little more often and we will be even"

Im sorry, not even I would want to be even with someone who wants 70% of the people of the world to die a terrible death, so HE can have a better life.

ARE YOU A TERRORIST BY CHANCE?
Do you live in the U.S.? What is your address? name? phone number?

"Drones almost never get to the top of anything"

Then why arent you the president?? Following your line of thinking here!



"Because in your world you are right and everyone else is 100% wrong."

No not really. but at least in my world i actually care about people other than myself.

How selfish you are!


I said Natural disasters dave not ones caused by us. The planet deserves to get its shot in way before I do.

Who ever said I wanted to be one of the survivors? I have no desire to live because I know that I would just be part of the problem later.

To answer your next question I live in Colorado Springs, CO. If you feel up to it come by and visit. It has some of the best scenery in the world.

I am not the president because
1. I am not wealthy.
2. I am not a team player.
3. Too young only 28
4. Have no desire to control the lives of others with lies.
5. Not willing to follow the rhetoric of others to get ahead in life.
6. Ect

I do care about people other than myself but that caring only goes out to people that deserve it.

And yes I have been called Selfish before. That goes with having free will.


"I do care about people other than myself but that caring only goes out to people that deserve it."

And apparently you have determined that 70% of the world doesnt? Have you met each and every one of them to make that determination?



"I am not the president because
1. I am not wealthy.
2. I am not a team player.
3. Too young only 28
4. Have no desire to control the lives of others with lies.
5. Not willing to follow the rhetoric of others to get ahead in life.
6. Ect"

Sounds like you need a hug poor fellow.

It's ok to join society. You dont have to live in a constant state of depression. The world is here for you, you are not here for the world.


When society becomes worth joining I will consider it.

Until then I will continue to point out that we have done a lot of harm to each other in the name of "Society" or the group herd mentality.

It is a cycle that repeats itself over and over again. Find something to rally around then crush all those that are not with you.

History repeats itself because human nature does not change.


I suppose society will be fine without you then.


But that does not stop me from commenting on it.


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