"This is how I see it. Until the occupation ends Iraq will be crippled on the path of self-determination. "

Hi,
But don't you think that without the overthrow of Saddam and the occupation, you would not be on the path to self determination at all???

Consider the other paths that could have been - or could yet be:

1. Saddam
2. Extremist Coup
3. Civil War

Its fine to complain - you ARE FREE!!!! But do please consider what the alternatives might be.

All the best!

Charles
NH-USA


Gravatar It should NEVER have come to this. And if the Iraqi people's freedom was really so much of a concern of Bush and the neocon lunatic cult, then there would have been measures in place to insure events like Abu Ghraib didn't happen (and continue to happen)...and there would have been an actual plan for the aftermath. Instead there is no security, poor essential services, and elections were held a year too late. Frankly, we have a war that is not going to end any time soon and an election that was held in a state of emergency. Read more of my blog if you want a complete rebuttal to your sort of thinking. I was and still am completely against this illegal war.

But we are where we are now...it doesn't mean it's right.

I want to move forward. And forward for Iraq does not include permanant US bases. It is only going to cause more death and pain for all parties involved.

Peace,

LIM


Gravatar Oh, and all the initial arguments for war fell apart. There were no weapons of mass destruction. Do you realize that?


Gravatar I just realize I was misquoted. it's the bane of me...i'm always, always misquoted. I said "pace" not "peace"...fortunately, pace is peace in italian. so, i don't mind. and yea, i like peace more than pace. hehe....
and sure peace is the best. but we need pace & peace...we need good things to happen for iraq quickly.

if good things don't happen quickly for iraq, then we could be in for more of a shit-storm than we are already in...

pace,
lim.


Gravatar ANd and and...

anytime i think about the lancet, i get extremely depressed. then i get really pissed off. 100,000 Iraqis dead? IS THAT WORTH IT ? NO...and more are dying every day. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HELL NO NO

NO NO NO


NONONONONONONONONONO NO!!!!!

NO NO NO NO WAR NO NO NO NO BOMBS NO NO NO NO FUCK NO

GRRRRRRR!!!!

IMAGINE A WORLD WHERE AMERICA IS INVADED BY A FOREIGN FORCE AND 100,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE KILLED KILLED KILLED KILLED DEAD DEAD DEAD BY CLUSTER BOMBS PACKED WITH DEPLETED URANIUM BY TOMAHAWK MISSLES FIRED FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY BY 2,000 KG BUNKER BUSTING BOMBS RIPPING THE HOMES OF IRAQIS TO SHREDS, THEIR BODIES CONSUMED BY FLAME FLAME FLAME INCINERATED...IMAGINE THIS WORLD? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN? AMERICA WOULD DESTROY THAT COUNTRY WITH 100 NUKES, WOULD IT NOT? SO? AN INVADING FORCE GOES INTO IRAQ KILLING THAT SAME NUMBER 1 0 0 , 0 0 0 I N N O C E N T PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT BUT AN ACTIVE RESISTANCE TO THIS INSANITY???


Gravatar SO, it's very complicated....I'm not for it or against it. BUT I have the luxury of taking this abstract position. Some disaffected youths that have nothing and nothing to look forward for the future in Iraq DO NOT have such a luxury. I ONLY CARE IF MY FAMILY IS SAFE AND ALIVE. We're already being f'ed with more and more simply because we're in the christian minority, so...YEA, I'm pissed off at the whole situation. IT REally sucks for us. And I'm sick of it.


Gravatar liminal,

There are 10 Americans opposed to the U.S. presence for every Iraqi who feels the same way. A HUGE waste of lives and resources for a people we have NOTHING in common with. Is freedom for Iraqi's worth a SINGLE American life? Of course not.
Iraqi's will always hate Americans. Their religion commands it. But now,by becoming free and prosperous,Iraqi's will be even more empowered to MURDER the infidel. Thank-you George Bush.
Pathetic.......


Gravatar The American Tank in the Video is in fact a soviet made MTLB. Didnt know they were supplying the Americans....Its the sort of equipment used by Iraq and other middle eastern countries.




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