Using his thumb?
Oh, and his gloves protect the wrong side of his arm, not the side that the string will slide by upon release. The string will probably catch on the "bars" of the glove, as well.
Pointing the arrow at the ground isn't going to do him much good, either. And his wrist is bent -- it might make for a nice composition, but he's not going to hit anything like that.
Very good.
I was mostly looking for the arm guard as the big one, but the funky wrist thing is a good catch, as is the thumb.
I particularly like how Ross hides the bow off the edge of the page in a Liefeldesque attempt to avoid drawing it. Of course, the angle of his arm indicates that the bow is probably turned some weird direction that can't possibly line up with the string that we can see.
It looks like the string goes behind his left arm, which could make things really awkward depending on which way his left hand is turned. It's hard to tell since most of it is cropped.
I really wish we could see that bow, if only to tell how twisted his left arm really is. It seems to me that if he tried to hold the bow upright in that position, it would look ridiculously wrong.
I suspect the arrow is supposed to be on the side of the bow that's closest to the viewer, in which case the index fletch looks to be pointing the wrong way.
And is his quiver just really broad, or is it facing his left shoulder, even though he needs to draw the arrows with his right hand?
I think the quiver really is that broad.
As for whats wrong, well, I can't judge the hold, partly because I don't think he's supposed to be in anything approaching a shooting hold. Sure, he's aimed at the ground, but thats because he's not aiming *at* anyone.
That said, the arm guard is on the wrong side ( ironic, considering its on the *right* side of the wrong arm ), and if he were to raise and fire, he'd best get those fingers away from the arrow itself.
I particularly like how Ross hides the bow off the edge of the page in a Liefeldesque attempt to avoid drawing it.
The cropping of the image to hide the bow was a choice by whoever put the series of posters together, not an attempt to hide the bow by Ross. I scanned the full image and posted it here:
I'm typically not one to rush out and defend Ross, but no one deserves to be called Liefeldesque. ;^)
In looking at the full picture posted by Dav, I can't help but look at his left hand... based on the elbow guard and the shading which I assume to be the tendons on the inside of his wrist, there is no possible way to raise his bow without having to remove his hand and replace it on the other side of the bow. And yes, the wrist is angled and the armguard is on his right (draw) arm not his left arm.
I'm surprised that Mr Ross got it wrong... I've always figured him for the best reality-based artist around.
The cropping of the image to hide the bow was a choice by whoever put the series of posters together, not an attempt to hide the bow by Ross. I scanned the full image and posted it here:
Thanks. And looking at the full image, Ollie's right arm isn't nearly as contorted as I'd assumed.
I'm surprised that Mr Ross got it wrong... I've always figured him for the best reality-based artist around.
But he's following generations of comic artists that got it wrong. My assumption is that, if he used a live model, said model also doesn't know how to hold a bow, and was mostly just posing as directed.
Mind you, I still think Ross art rocks. He draws yummy beefcake.
MacQuarrie, what about this upcoming cover to City of Heroes?
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/
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Um, why would you assume that those are tendons on the inside of the wrist? Look at the hand, we can clearly make out the knuckles -- we're look at at the back of his left hand and arm there. Which would make it quite easy and natural to raise the bow should it be needed.
MacQuarrie, what about this upcoming cover to City of Heroes?
At some point, it's just rehashing the same errors over and over again. Virtually anybody who has read my previous pieces can tell you all the major errors in that piece.
One interesting note is that the artist is familiar enough with the sport to include a stabilizer (on the bow, below the hand), but didn't get the ends of the limbs right. It looks like he used a compound bow for reference for the grip and then faked the rest to turn it into a recurve.
I wouldn't report anything about form or posture as a mistake in this picture. Green Arrow is posing but he isn't firing at anyone, aiming at anyone, or preparing to fire at anyone. It's like critiquing me for holding a pistol in the palm of my hand as if I was intending to shoot a target, when in fact I am not.
That aside, all the other criticisms regarding the arm-guard, etc, are spot-on and super-apropriate.
The quiver really is that broad.
Ridiculously GA once used it as a jet-pack. The story was not a Golden Age or a genuine Silver Age tale.
If we were to judge the accuracy of the costume. The across-the-chest belt should connect directly to the waist-belt in the front of the costume and not continue on to the back.
That, however, does not fit the theme of the weblog.
I wouldn't report anything about form or posture as a mistake in this picture. Green Arrow is posing but he isn't firing at anyone, aiming at anyone, or preparing to fire at anyone. It's like critiquing me for holding a pistol in the palm of my hand as if I was intending to shoot a target, when in fact I am not.
I'll agree for the most part, except as regards placement of the fingers on the string and the bend of the wrist. The nocking process and pre-draw should be so automatic and instinctive that Ollie would actually have to think about it in order to do it wrong, and the idea that he would pose with his hand deliberately placed incorrectly is a bit of a stretch for me.
He didn't do it deliberately. Remember, he was mind-controlled by the life-sized voodoo puppet under the control of Houngan, Puppet Master, and Alex Ross.
Yes, it took a three-way team-up of mind-controlling bastards across three universes in order to force Green Arrow to pose unnaturally.
Besides, this picture still is not as great a travesty as the Black Canary and Wonder Woman paintings in the same series.
I found something even worse. The image at this link has the same mistakes, but without the "out" that Green Arrow is just posing:
http://www.dccomics.com/
dcdirect...+DIRECT+GALLERY
Although the arm guard is correct on the plate.
"Ridiculously GA once used it as a jet-pack. The story was not a Golden Age or a genuine Silver Age tale."
Was he trying to bring down a Kree ship?
quiver's on the wrong side, i think.
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