"They are bloody fools. They have been stuffing their faces at Europe's expense for years and now they dump us in the shit."
I presume he said exactly the same about the French electorate when they rejected the Constitution?
Please take this opportunity to respond to the Vice President of the EU Commission and let her know how you feel. She says she would like to hear more from Irish people about the No vote. Margot Wallstroem
What is the chance of taking the concept of a cooperative Europe and implementing it without the autocracy? Was Monnet right that such a concept would not fly?
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United Irelander,
Too late.
They have secretly all agreed that there is going to be a second referendum, though it won't be announced until the heads of government meet again in October. They decided that it was too blatant to announce it one week after the first one, but - make no mistake - that's where we are going.
It will probably be sometime early next year too - you can bet your bottom dollar that the EU wants this treaty on the books well before a possible Tory government is elected in Britain.
It looks like democratic respect is well and truely dead my friend.
Did you hear as well that the EU has given Ireland 4 months to come up with a plan to sort out the "mess"?
And apparantly we have nothing to worry about from the EU...
yeah right!
Should Ireland be given another referendum (and I still think a temporary derogation is more likely), I hope the Irish people vote no with an even bigger margin.
Such a manoeuvre would surely place a large dent in Ireland's traditional Europhila. Even the 'philes must acknowledge the disregard, nay, open contempt for the democratic process that is on display here. Given that a second referendum question will probably try to frighten the horses with Lisbon or withdrawal being the available options (or perhaps just Yes and Ta), people will surely question whether continued membership of this Union is a good thing. After all, when one sees how the 'colleagues' treat Ireland when they still require Ireland's consent, how will they behave when they no longer have to ask for it?
There is a glimmer of good news in the UK today. The High Court have criticised the government for pursuing ratification of the Lisbon Treaty in advance of a Judicial Review decision brought by Stuart Wheeler.
With Calamity Brown and David Millepede showing open contempt for even our High Court, this is bound to get the judges backs up. We might (just might) still get our referendum.
On a more hopeful note, there seems to be growing optimism that the Czech Republic may reject the treaty:
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Oh my God. And here I'd thought that Sarkozy was one of the good guys.
Those comments will be remembered for a long, long time.
What was a degree of concern in Ireland is rapidly becoming a crisis of confidence in the EU. The reaction of a number of Europoliticians is reminiscent of the British Establishment’s attitude toward Ireland in the Imperial era. It took a long time to shake off that particular yolk and there are growing fears that it has been replaced with something quite similar.
Irish people are determinedly democratic, a condition brought about by long denial. The antics of European politicians may have started a debate within Ireland about the dangers of EU membership, never mind the Lisbon Treaty. I don’t know where this will lead, but I do know that there is a growing anger amongst many in Ireland that sees our country treated differently from France or Holland. Their rejection of a proposal was accepted as valid. Ours is not.
Threats of a two tier Europe ring hollow, when the evidence is plain that it already exists.
Perhaps Ireland would suffer economically outside the EU. Perhaps not. Either way those with authority over our lives would be democratically accountable to us. A cause worth dying for in the past. Certainly worth voting for in the future.
Hear hear, Observer.
He has a point - You seem to be more than happy to be part of the EU team when they help build your country, as soon as the money runs out.... you stick it to them.
Maybe Ireland should leave the EU?
Tony Mcdonald,
Maybe you should crawl up your own arse and die!
We are not yesmen nor will we ever be. If we are threatened with exclusion from the EU unless we bend over for the Euro-elite and accept Lisbon then I for one will vote to leave the EU.
Tony,
They hardly built our country. In fact they wouldn't let ourselves and the British be members for quite a while.
The only people we 'stuck it to' were the undemocratic elite, just like the French and Dutch did in 2005.
Like JG, I would oppose any threats from the EU.
Sarkozy comes to Ireland. Tell him for us that the french must vote again for their president.
I'm with Philippe, demand that the French be allowed a second presidential vote, to vote out the divorced, model-marrying arrogant Sarkozy. Ask them to elect Carla Bruni instead.
Bloody cheek of the man!
Calling people 'bloody fools' doesn't seem like a good strategy to get more people to vote 'yes', which they would only do if they were in fact bloody fools.
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