UI,
I think we oppose the LT for very different reasons but I agree it's a sad day.
Good to see you posting again, btw.
My heart has sunk with the news. The Irish people talk so much of the fight for freedom and liberty, yet they just gave it away.....for free. It is not the home I once knew, not anymore. This will be a day that history will see as the turning point for Ireland. Every single person that voted for that Treaty should not consider themselves Irish.
My home has finally failed me. That corrupt government has completely let their people down, and the people are the only ones to blame. It is sadly not the place I once knew. Any Irishman that voted for that treaty shouldn't consider themselves Irish at all. The Irish, pride themselves on the their history of freedom and liberty, but they sold themselves out for supposed protections from what only the EU brought them.
I can't understand why it was so necessary to vote again...
What if it came came out NO again?
Would they have sent you to polls again and again until YES was the answer?
So, what the use to ask your opinion when all they wanted was their own point of view?
donegal was the only area to vote no
I am proud to have a donegal granddad
what now for ireland? will it come to civil war? There are groups that will not take it anymore
UI,
Despite my dastardly pro-Lisbon views, it's good to see you back (and full of beans!).
A truly awful day for the whole nation.
Friends and a relative of mine were murdered in cold blood for so-called Irish 'freedom' in the 70's. I feel sick.
A tragic day for Irish democracy. But it will get worse still if the govt/Oireachtas use their new powers under Article 29.4.7. of the Irish Constitution to abolish the optout (Protocol 21) on Justice and Home Affairs. The Government and the Referendum Commission pointed out we have Protocol 21. What they didn't point out was that the constitutional amendment allows the Oireachtas/Government to abolish it. If it is abolished, then our criminal justice system, policing, border controls, powers of Europol/Eurojust in our country will all come under Qualified Majority Voting, and the ECJ will be empowered to rule on Justice matters contained in the Charter of Fundamental Rights such as Articles 18 and 19. Article 15 appears to allow asylum-seekers to work (it states 'everyone has the right to work'). Whatever your views on allowing them to work, surely the fact that the UK has an optout from the Charter makes it unsustainable for Ireland to allow it beforehand - not least in a recession?
Fine Gael's Euro-election manifesto committed the party to abolishing the optout. Dermot Ahern - as Foreign Minister last year - committed the govt to a "review" of Protocol 21 in 3 years. It is essential that the Irish people are made aware of this matter so they can organise to oppose the surrender of this area of sovereignty.
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