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As I write this it's 24 deg. F at my house in Portland, 11 degrees below normal. It's also very, very windy. It's a new house, the furnace can't keep the interior above 64 degrees and I'm going to be afraid to open our next bill for natural gas.
I'm from California and, at my age, this is pretty miserable. Brrrrr.
Gene Day |
01.24.08 - 11:02 am | #
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Good for Christy and Spencer. Does more for their reputation than hiding the facts every would. I for one, will be very happy pointing this out to my warmmonger friends. If they want objectective opinions, those guys are a good source.
Gene: I have a 1941 house. Needless to say, it has trouble staying warm. far too often we get the pitter patter of little feet coming across the hall and complaining it's too cold in the middle of the night.
Cheers
Mike |
01.24.08 - 12:05 pm | #
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That's interesting that the satellite data look warmer than the ground in recent time. I'm thinking that could mean that heat has been moved away from the surface and may thus result in overall cooling in the next year or two.
LM: not all ground data are cool. GISS continues to be superhot, with 2007 being 2nd-3rd. There is a huge difference between GISS and HadCRUT3. The RSS/UAH difference has been largely eliminated but it is likely that at least one element of the list GISS, HadCRUT3 is seriously wrong.
While GISS says that 2007 was exactly as warm as 1998, HadCRUT3 claims that 2007 was 0.14 °C cooler than 1998. That's a pretty huge difference of differences for less than a decade - one that would accumulate 1.5 °C per century, far more than the claimed 20th century global warming trends. If you accept that 1.4 °C can be an accumulated error of ground measurements per century, what does it tell you about the statistical significance of the 0.6 °C figure?
aaron |
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01.24.08 - 12:43 pm | #
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Gene, a new house and gas furnace should be able to keep you warm in 24 degrees. Maybe you need more insulation in the attic and walls? If you're very uncomfortable maybe you should call an HVAC guy to check out everything.
It's been cold here too with another even colder blast blowing in today.
Rae Ann |
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01.24.08 - 12:48 pm | #
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Stay warm, Rae Ann and Gene! Of course NPR the other day attributed the unusual cold in Iraq as more evidence of 'climate change'. One just can't win with the AGW crowd, it seems. I hear people in Boston discussing the 'worrisome weather patterns'. It just seems like the typical unpleasant long winter that we always have here, bitter days, sleet days, gray days, warming melting days, more snow days. Winter wonderland? I wonder why I live in winterland. 
Ann |
01.24.08 - 3:31 pm | #
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Rae Ann,
Thanks for the suggestion but I have discovered that the pre-filter (we have an electronic air filter) was completely covered with dog hair. Katie, our golden retriever, is a big hairball but we love her.
It's working better now that I've cleaned it. In our previous house the air return was off in a corner; now it's in the main hallway. Big difference!
Gene Day |
01.24.08 - 3:56 pm | #
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Gene, yes, dirty filters are the number one reason for those problems. If I could give everyone just one piece of advice to save on energy and frustration with their forced air units, I'd tell them to be sure all their filters are changed regularly. You wouldn't believe how bad some people let theirs get. Glad you solved your problem!
Rae Ann |
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01.24.08 - 4:42 pm | #
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OT, but time relevant. A very public forum has gathered famous voices taking sides on global warming. Andrew Revkin at the New York Times Dot Earth blog has attracted Gavin Schmidt, Ray PierreHumbug, Roger Pielke Sr., Joe D'Aleo and others to comment on the American Geophysical Union's endorsement of co2 madness. Go forth, bright young physicist, and make your voice heard !
Mike M. |
01.24.08 - 6:55 pm | #
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Dirty filters can also cause poor burn, toxic emmission etc.
Thanks Mike, should be amuzing. A good birthday present for me to open at work tomorrow.
aaron |
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01.24.08 - 7:44 pm | #
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"In the next 50 years, even the lower limit of impending climate change — an additional global mean warming of 1 degree Celsius above the last decade — is far beyond the range of climate variability experienced during the past thousand years"
Barely even into it and one statement of fact strikes me as patently absurd. We can't know that the climate varied less in any time period over 200 years ago, let alone a thousand.
aaron |
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01.24.08 - 7:58 pm | #
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The skeptics helped make the data warmer. Seems that that speaks to their credibility as scientists. I for one trust someone more who wants to get things right even if they go against their hypothesis. By the way, Eli went after Steve McIntyre for using RSS to verify/falsify Hansen's 1988 predictions, even though the data weren't available at the time!
Werdna |
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01.24.08 - 8:21 pm | #
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Actually went after him for a lot of things. More interestingly, went and looked at the correlations between GISS, HadCRUT, UAH and RSS.
rabett.blogspot.com.
Eli Rabett |
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01.24.08 - 11:57 pm | #
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Lie Bart et al...
rafa |
01.25.08 - 3:11 am | #
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Aaron, is today your birthday too?
Rae Ann |
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01.25.08 - 8:53 am | #
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You might find this interesting:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/
...tion_of_CO2.pdf
"The atmospheric greenhouse effect, an idea that authors trace back to the traditional works of Fourier 1824, Tyndall 1861 and Arrhenius 1896 and is still supported in global climatology essentially describes a fictitious mechanism in which a planetary atmosphere acts as a heat pump driven by an environment that is radiatively interacting with but radiatively equilibrated to the atmospheric system. According to the second law of
thermodynamics such a planetary machine can never exist. Nevertheless, in almost all texts of global climatology and in a widespread secondary literature it is taken for
granted that such mechanism is real and stands on a firm scientific foundation. In this paper the popular conjecture is analyzed and the underlying physical principles are
clarified. By showing that (a) there are no common physical laws between the warming phenomenon in glass houses and the fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effects, (b) there
are no calculations to determine an average surface temperature of a planet, (c) the frequently mentioned difference of 33 C is a meaningless number calculated wrongly,
(d) the formulas of cavity radiation are used inappropriately, (e) the assumption of a radiative balance is unphysical, (f) thermal conductivity and friction must not be set to
zero, the atmospheric greenhouse conjecture is falsified."
Michael Lenaghan |
01.25.08 - 9:15 am | #
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Gene and Rea Ann: OH boo hoo it's 24° in Portland and cool in Tennessee. It is a balmy 11° here in Vermont and quite windy. This is an improvement over a couple of weeks ago where it barely made it out of the single digits.
I feel sorrier for Rea Ann than for Gene, but I don't really feel that sorry for her. At least Tennessee is south and should be warmer than us. Portland is farther north than we are yet usally is much warmer than us.This is unfair. It shouldn't happen. There must be something wrong with the global climate. 
tom t |
01.25.08 - 10:28 am | #
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tom t, lol, it was 12 here this morning. But it's okay. We know how to stay warm. 
Rae Ann |
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01.25.08 - 11:55 am | #
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Rae Ann, Happy Birthday!
Yup, I'm the big Three O today.
LM: Hapoy birthday, dear Rae Ann. Happy birthday, dear Rae Ann and aaron?, happy birthday to you!
aaron |
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01.25.08 - 2:05 pm | #
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Happy Birthday Aaron! I'm the big Four-OH! today. It's pretty cool to share a birthday. Thank you and Lubos(!) for the wishes! It's been a pretty happy day so far. 
Rae Ann |
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01.25.08 - 3:29 pm | #
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Rae Ann and Aaron - Many, many happy returns to both of you! Now I now there is something to be thankful for about the month of January. 
Ann |
01.25.08 - 4:18 pm | #
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Oh Sorry I missed that point Happy Birthday Rea Ann and Aaron
tom t |
01.25.08 - 10:38 pm | #
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Thanks tom.
aaron |
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01.26.08 - 1:32 am | #
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if the climate alarmists are right, it can simple mean, some sort of regulations must be accepted on the field of global life environment, by the same way like at the case of global rules of whales hunting or anti-terrorism laws.
Which is annoying maybe, but quite logical step ahead and nothing very new in the contemporary world, which is limited both in fossil sources, both in ability of biosphere to absorb the carbon emissions.
Zephir |
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01.26.08 - 8:12 am | #
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Zephir, I vehemently disagree with everything you just said. In particular, if the alarmists were right, it wouldn't mean we have to embrace regulation. Why are you opposed to the idea of anyone other than Government mitigating Global Warming?
Werdna |
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01.26.08 - 1:34 pm | #
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It may or may not be of interest, but Western Europe has experienced quite a mild winter so far, and in the satellite pictures looks like a lonely spot of green surrounded by snow white all over the Northern Hemisphere...
Maurizio Morabito |
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02.06.08 - 5:04 am | #
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Commenting: (c) HaloScan and Lumo
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