IF Obama had gone away by now as expected I would be writing about this:
http://www.falkvinge.com/2008/
03...collapsing.html
It is a long but interesting piece on the dollar
The text of the email you've posted here makes my blood run cold. Yes. This is exactly who supports Obama. They think if a person who hasn't earned the Presidency of this country takes the Oval Office, they will also get everything they want but haven't worked for.
Our country is sick because there are so many sick people in it.
And we all share a bit of the blame. The very traits I'm lambasting here, I have at times in my life been guilty of -- but then I grew up.
This was an outstanding post.
P.S.:
I'm not sure it would be inappropriate to post the emailer's address here, so that we can have a conversation with him or her.
Go back and read the email again but with a Russian accent - that's for sure, right?
And the only person who would need a cheese stake is Buffy for a lactose intolerant vampire.
I wonder at the contempt for people of the working class. They are the foundation a country is built upon. How is work not honorable? Our society would notice the garbage men not working long before it took notice of a wall street trader taking a month off. How do we not respect anyone who goes to work every day to earn a living to take care of his/her family?
I don't want to be accused of stereo-typing but I have to imagine that most working class people are forced to be pragmatic and don't have time to be lifted to a higher ground by soaring oratory. When you're worried about putting food on the table you can't be
The Barackis put their noses up in the air and miss the recession on the ground. What qualifications does Senator Obama have to deal with our faltering ecomony? Have we ever had a less qualified candidate? Even Ronald Reagan had been governor of California. We are in huge trouble as evidenced by the article John posted above on the dollar and all the great speeches in the world won't fix it.
If anyone wants to free themselves of their Easter dinner please watch the Chris Mathews interview with Richardson this morning. You will be praying to you porcelain god shortly.
He blamed the 4000 American deaths in Iraq on the decisions the and policies of the Clintons, and that we desperately need to get Obama in the white house.
Obama supporters are fiends.
I'm waiting for msnbc to come out and publicly endorse BHO. Oh wait they did when chris and keith stuck their heads up his ass.
MSNBC is a bunch of whores.
Everyman you rock. You're like our own Greek chorus.
wait, I shouldn't know what a Greek chorus is since I didn't go to college and am in the working class eating cheese "stakes."
I am making cheese stakes and velveeta hinges, and MiraCLE WHIP glue
i am the face of the obama voter.
i am a butt head.
Well this morning CNN had a consultant on to advise Barack Obama what to do with Hillary's white house records...mostly to say that she held "teas" and things just like a good little woman. I tell you, I am incensed at the shabby way in which the Democratic party is treating Hillary and I intend to go to the board of elections site and change my registration to Independent today. I no longer want to be affiliated with these people who ignore this man's record of dubious associations and repeated backtracks and lies. The mere fact that any of the party people would dare to continue to say that this primary has to "end now" to hand the nomination to this mediocre man before the next thing is exposed, while throwing a superior woman under the bus tells me that there is fear at play here.
The party is not willing to own up to this candidate who is a loser in the end. And to hear bill richardson say Obama has his superdelegate vote even though Hillary won his state tells me that there is a double standard of the highest magnitude going on here right in the face of America's women. Just like the old days!
How many times have we heard the Obama campaign say that this is not acceptable to vote against him if HE won the superdelegates constituency. He changes the bar every single day and gets away with it. What's ok for him isn't ok for Hillary. If this isn't double talk I don't know what is. Furthermore, he AND the party worked in tandem to disinfranchise Florida and Michigan by thrwarted their efforts to revote at every turn. And Obama got away with it. And Dean helped him. If ANYBODY is "stealing" this election it is Barack Obama.
The Party doesn't care about Farrakhan comparing Obama to Jesus. They don't care about that savage Wright. tghey don't care that Canada got told to ignore his NAFTA talk. They won't recognize the Bill Ayers Weatherman Bomber as his buddy. The Rezko case, which stinks to high heaven, doesn't bother them. Michelle O'Angry saying she's proud of America for the first time doesn't bother them. Shit just slides off of this bum and that is because they have placed their own personal teflon on him. He is a loser. McCain will crush him. They-- The Democratic party --collectively is a sexist pig and I no longer want to be affiliated with them. If Barack Obama is the nominee after all of this, I will vote for John McCain in the fall. By then the party will be embarrassed into the next continent, all because they are afraid of race riots. It will be just as well. I would rather have a hundred years in Iraq than live through the Weatherman years again. And that is exactly what we would get from this fake Barack Obama.
I watched Hillary's talk today about the economy. Of course, CNN cut into it because they can't stay away from their lovechild Obama very long. But the truth is, there is no way on earth Barack Obama could have talked about the economy with the knowledge she portrayed. He's an empty s
you are mean. but i like it.
Molly, Molly, Molly
WOW!
I will leave the party too if they nominate obama.
the reason obama is gone for a week is so that he can allow his ass lickers and cock suckers to speak for him since he kept fucking it up last week,
title of my monday night piece on L.R.: THE LYNCHING OF HILLARY CLINTON
Oh, and, by the way (and I know everyone here knows this), the 'working class' gave us everything we define our American lives by. Disrespecting them only ends one way... oh, and that one way is happening as we speak.
On another note, I'm considering registering as an independent as well. If THIS is the Democratic party, I'm not a Democrat.
HOWEVER, are we playing right into the hands of the GOP? That concerns me.
Dear Chico, Chico, Chico...
If we have learned one thing this year, it's that trusting our party to do the right thing is a mistake. Yes, I admit I am very very angry. It seems that anger is something they can relate to. Obama's people certainly got away with it. Being nice to these people at this point is like saying, "Come back! There's a part of my face you haven't stepped on yet!".
Jay, I honestly think that Independents make the GOP as nervous as they make the Democratic Party. They can't get Independents to Lockstep. But your mention of the middle class also reminds me of something. I don't think that Obama worshippers in general are the "upscale" people the Obama Channels call them. Mostly they are children whose parents bust their asses to send them to school, so that they can cut class to terrorize people in caucuses, while their parents are at work and can't be at caucus at a certain hour. These are the same starry-eyed kids who move back home after school so that they can sponge off their parents and appear 'upscale' by spending all their money on themselves. God knows, most of my friends have at least one of those Obamazoids living home. Ironically, these are the same people who will take social security away from their parents right after they spend all their parents' retirement money in order to look "upscale". Where I come from, we call them NIKEs (No Income Kids With Education). If they had to pay for food, mortgages, their own cell phone bills and taxes on their parents' homes, they would be middle class. These are many of the Obama caucus people, along with charged up African Americans who don't recognize the Return of Clarence Thomas. The irregularities and trouble they generated in caucuses throughout the USA this year will become legendary. That is why Obama does so well in caucuses and is a bust in real primaries where one person-one vote counts. Nobody to harrass the voters.
Caucuses work great for fraudulent candidates. All they need to do is rally the crowd that attend his MTV rallies. Overall I would say the "Obama Girl" is more like a typical Obama follower, along with high school kids and other people who have no decision making skills to begin with. To them, Obama is a celebrity to worship and the real responsibilities of the President isn't even a real consideration to them. To them, it would just be "cool" to have Obama be president.
Molly --
I'm completely in 'lockstep' with your response, and the anagram "NIKE" made me very, very happy.
Whether I hop parties or not (and I may), I'm thinking of writing in Hillary if she is not the candidate.
Hey Jay, there's a great idea. Perhaps we would need a write-in movement. I would be happy to work on that.
These people think we are just going to lie down. They do not know how wrong they are.
Molly,
NIKE, thats beautiful.
Molly --
Let's discuss the write in movement if it doesn't look like Hil will be the nominee. I'm not convinced that she's out yet.
But if she is, I'll gladly work with you to promote her write in.
You have a deal Jay. I'm in. We can broadcast it all over the net and have a base. But like you I am not convinced this is over yet.
Scott: xxoo
Molly --
I've secured:
writehillaryin.com / net / org & info.
I'm ready when you are.
Jay & Molly:
Fantastic.
I'm in.
Great idea! (Hillary as write-in, if necessary.) How about making this intention known to the DNC right now? I have written to their website as an individual, but don't feel that has much impact.
Taking this to a much more effective level, how about flooding the DNC email (attention of Howard Dean, Chairman) declaring our intent to vote for Hillary as a write-in, if necessary. I think the part that we are 'registered Democrats" who will also change our registrations to Independent can't hurt either. After all, the best way to get through a thick skull is by hammering on the same spot with the same message, ad nauseum. (You know, the way the MSM does to us)
How's this for a header: "Will of the People"? Who better to compose our Walking out on the Party declaration than Liberal Rapture (of course). While we are at it, maybe we should state our demands like:
a) Count MI/FLA or take real action for revote.
b) Stop holding Hillary's SuperDelegates hostage c) DNC must issue statements to MSM demanding equal air time and respectful treatment of Hillary Clinton's candidacy.
A second flood of copies of our Declaration to the Super Delegates Hub wouldn't hurt either.
What do you think? Liberalrapture please write and post a suitable piece for any who wish to cut/paste & forward. Count me in. Also, I'll forward to my email list (inviting participation) and hope others (like Molly) post the piece on their blogs.
Good Lynne -- great to know you're with us.
Now, just get your state seated and we won't have to bother! 
Ah -- just noticed that JMKORBEL is in too.
Something good is happening here.
What actual proof do we have that Obama's supporters are all highly educated? Why wouldn't they lie to pollsters? He doesn't exactly foster honesty.
Jay kudos on securing the domains. Its time we let the DNC that our half is just as important. They think just because we wont riot we don't count.
Lets make some noise.
Jay:
How cool are you? Love it.
Let me know if you need any design work for the write in site, would be glad to help.
Thank you Scott -- all help is welcomed! You can send me an email at info@writehillaryin.com (everyone) so that we can be directly connected.
I'm in and I mean I am in to help in any way I can. I have some interesting credentials, believe it or not. If we need this site, I will be there for you.
We all know Hillary though, and that is why there is a good chance we WON'T need write-ins. If Obama thinks he needed a vacation this week, he ain't seen nuthin' yet. Her energy surpassed his long ago. Her brain is working harder when she's sleeping than his is working during his waking hours. Look at what she has done in spite of Obama, his smarmy campaign people, and the entire MSN. That woman is a leader who is capable of focusing even under the greatest stress. Obama would be sucking his thumb by now if he had to incur the assaults she has waded through.
Ooops, I meant MSM not MSN.
Thanks to Jay for showing (with website ready) that we mean business. A DNC for BO is a party without mainstream centrist support.
See today's Liberal Rapture article is reflecting broader current trend toward laughter as good medicine, as well. Last night saw a site in state where Hillary is campaigning. Local article linked to video proof of Obama's total (and typical) 180 shift on health care. (Incidentally, when will the MSM mention that his wife is a highly paid hospital administrator and just got a big raise?) So much for holding down health care costs.
Article also referenced his documented ambivalence on decriminalization of marijuana. He's on record for waffling about that 3 times already and his latest excuse is that he didn't know what decriminalization meant when he said he supported it! Think changing his position this many times is a record - even for shape-shifting BO. Of course, Obamawatchers know that his number of position shifts will always equal the different types of audience he is targeting at any given moment.
Best part of the piece was the journalist's advice to read through the comments for much humor- so I did so - three pages of comments by kids (yes, the youth vote!) and they were even funnier than Molly! (Sorry, Molly, but you are probably glad to hear that you now have competition in the digs department from the 18 yr. old demographic- of all places!)
Sorry, I lost the link so I can't turn you on to the total humor, but can relay that (at least part of) the "youth" vote is smartening up. One said that Kerry's supposed flip-flops were nothing compared to Obama's "waffling" and that she wants to make a video with a giant Egg-O waffle on his head, followed by clips of his endless lies on everything.
Anyway, here's the one clip I got there before my crash:
"He has aliented the seniors, women, the military, white blue collar workers, Latinos and now he is working on the kids.
I feel so unified. How about you"
Hope that brightens everyone's day. Must go make my breakfast - Obama on toast. (Thanks again to Molly for that one.)
Hey John, you thought that email was bad look at this crap from someone named obamamania in your neck of the woods.
Obama is our Savior. Barak and Reverend Wright are Right, God D*** america. Now is the time to rally around Barak and Michelle and make them proud! And news flash america, Barak is right, your typical white american is a racist! Obama will apologize to our Muslim brothers for arrogant american policies of hate and slavery. Only Obama can forgive an evil nation founded slavery. REPARATIONS NOW!
Can you believe that complete bullshit.
If people really hate America that much why don't the just leave.
"If Michigan and Florida had not been thrown overboard by Howard Dean and Donna Brazile..."
At least you're honest about that. Here in Florida, the Democrats in the State legislature who voted for an early primary are now trying to blame that on the GOP.
Looks like a few of the liberals have finally learned the true nature of black on white racism. Maybe you'll next learn about black on white crime? Better late than never.
www.amren.com/newstore/cart.php?
page=color_of_crime
It's a shame that the first black man to make a serious run for the presidency had to be Obama. It is also unfortunate that both major political parties are so bereft of good leaders. Our political process has degenerated, and most good people don't want to be involved in politics today. Politics is now a slimy profession rather than a service to country. This is truly our fault as voters if you think about it. Present company excepted, of course.
Welcome to the light! I was/am a Regan democrat who hasn't stopped looking closer that the driveby media wants most American's to look. Obama is an empty suit that will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good years.
Sorry, Mr. Rapt, but not voting at all is not an option. If not Hillary, then McCain, period.
It is way late to stop treating blacks like they're our own special little American Frankensteins. Obama fails the tough tests, except we keep saying, "Oh, poor guy, it must have been my prejudice liberal ears because of all the slaves and everything."
You recall the rest of the story.
The long-term problem of numerous irreconcilable differences really has only one solution, and you already know what that is: divorce.
When the New Black Panther party says: "We want freedom. We want the power to practice self-determination, and to determine the destiny of our community and THE BLACK NATION," we, the men and women of European Americans United AGREE. When the Trinity United Church of Christ seeks: "A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA," we AGREE. When the Nation of Islam says: "We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere..." We, the men and women of European Americans United, agree.
"compliant, brain-dead, synchophants in the MSM"
Welcome to the VRWC.
When an Obama commercial, running here in Pennsylvania, mentioned a "Windfall Profits Tax", the conversion of Barack Obama into the black version of Jimmy Carter was complete.
Couple of thoughts: don't brag you have a BFA--it is just another way of saying you spent four years getting drunk on your parents money.
Florida and Michigan were both warned beforehand they would forfeit their delegates if they moved up their primary. They did it anyway and now have to live with the results.
The Clintons pastor and Mike Huckabee both came out in support of Rev Wright.
McCain courted Ron Parsley and John Hagee, both of whom spout vile on a par with anything said by Wright.
and I am British, so my views won't translate into a vote for any of the candidates. I do find your misguided venom entertaining though
I don't know what you guys have against Clarence Thomas.
He voted to protect private property from theft by corporations in collusion with government (Kelo).
He voted to protect medical marijuana patients who grew their own (Raich). BTW a "winger" was one of the lead att'ys in Raich. Barnett (sp?).
And who was in the majority against both positions? The "liberal" justices.
Some time my friends on the left do not know who their enemies are.
Information is being posted regarding write-in procedures and rules on a state by state basis across the country, here:
www.writehillaryin.com
Dearest Evan:
If I warn you that I'm going to shoot you in the head if you blow one more bubble gum bubble, then you do it -- by your logic, I have every right to shoot you in the head.
Arbitrary rules are not a basis for argument.
I did NOT spend 4 years getting drunk on my parents money!
I spent 4 years getting drunk on student loan money.
Mr. Simon,
Clare Thomas stole a national election.
nuff said.
Well, ma'am, if it's any consolation at all, there will be a ton of Republicans faced with voting for McCain that will carry at LEAST as much angst into the voting booth that you will, if you end up at that result.
Obama will be the Dem nominee. It can't be any other way given the state of the party. He is (a) ahead by the accepted interpretation of "popular support" [and no, NOBODY but G*d and Stephen Hawking actually understand the methodology for actually weighting all the different vote/caucus combos put in place by the DNC] in the so- far completed primaries and (b) being black.
Hillary is unlikable enough on her own that many Liberal women already liked another option to support. Obama... charismatic, telegenic, smooth, and unfortunately as hollow as an unfilled pinata... scored huge points before the media got near to where blogs had already arrived at as far as who "who" was where the Hopey Changey man was concerned.
The Super Delegates aren't going to shaft the brother. It's that simple. They already know that neither Hill nor Obama has a chance in the general... but they are hoping as only hacks can hope that Barak's name on the ticket brings enough Black Democrats to the polls to get them elected, locally, again. If they don't have him there... it will be 1994 all over again, except this time the presidency goes, too.
Have a fine one. It's going to be a popcorn summer for everybody.
It is testimony to the willing irresponsibility of the media that Wright's bile was not shown to the nation earlier.
It it testimony to their complicity in all this that they aren't giving Jeremiah Wright the "Roger & Me" treatment.
I believe that you meant you are "loath to vote for him," and that you "loathe his supporters."
Obama seems to be one of those cases where the more you actually understand about him and his past, the more you are loath to vote for him. And the more you loathe his supporters who look down on you.
You left off not know the difference between your and you're. "Your are" doesn't make sense, although it's excusable as a typo.
Meremortal | 03.30.08 - 2:05 pm
"It's a shame that the first black man to make a serious run for the presidency had to be Obama. It is also unfortunate that both major political parties are so bereft of good leaders. Our political process has degenerated, and most good people don't want to be involved in politics today. Politics is now a slimy profession rather than a service to country. This is truly our fault as voters if you think about it. Present company excepted, of course."
Meremortal, you're absolutely correct. I am appalled at the level of political leaders. I believe this is due to the disgusting news media and the tone of political discourse.
If we aren't careful only megalomaniacs will run for public office, to include Dog Catcher. Oh wait, we're already there....
Wow. That's a relly, really effective piece of writing. I'd like to buy you a (virtual) drink.
Man, I'm here from a libertarian site link and... that letter... that's how those people talk to us all the time.
I'm not saying, 'now you know how it feels'... more like, umm, ‘these’ people keep us (you / me) from having a dialog. If you don’t like it (that kind of behavior)… well, I don’t like it either. Cheers.
BRAVO! Very well said. We are working diligently in PA to get this lying piece of spit off the ticket...
interesting development here:
http://writehillaryin.com/
if need be I am all for it
Mark,
I would like a virtual pint of Canadian mist whisky and a virtual diet coke. and a virtual marlboro.
thanks for your kind words.
I come from a midwestern Catholic union Dem family. I hate Obama. He's a racist, a liar, and a traitor. Out of my hundred plus cousins the only ones planning to vote for Obama are the snobs who went to grad school. The rest of my family, who actually like America, share my hatred for that racist bastard.
I think somebody said this long time ago...
"I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me."
What you are going through today is normal. Many of you are getting older, more mature, everyday you are hit with the full cost of the federal, state and local government, you have to think about your children and how to make ends meet. Your world view is not the same - you've seen real life, and it's not as simple as you thought when you were 16. It's no coincidence that a famous radical said "Never trust anyone who is over 30 years old".
Guys, let me welcome you on the behalf of Grand Old Party. You are finally home, and it feels right.
Uh,
According to the NYTimes a fair vote recount in FLA would have given Bush the election in every reasonable circumstance. And Gore people worked real hard to disenfranchise vets.
In any case even without FLa all Gore had to do was win his home state. May the people of Tenn knew something you don't.
In any case the drug war is a class war
Class War
aimed mainly at blacks. I would expect Democrats to be unanimously against it. Yeah. I know. Class warfare is not a Republican issue. Well I'm not in lockstep with my party. I call 'em like I see 'em. I voted Obama over Keyes in '04. I can't abide theocons. Not on the left. Not on the right. Same for racists. I came down hard on Trent Lott. He deserved it.
Most folks here are not buying the Obama Kool Aid - excellent. Don't buy the stolen election Kool Aid. The county with the punch card ballots that caused so much trouble was run by Democrats.
BTW I think Hillary would make a reasonably good President and I was no Bill hater either. I personally like McCain better, but I agree - Obama would be a disaster.
It is obvious Thomas calls 'em as he sees 'em. He will buck the party line if he believes the Constitution demands it. As to the other four votes: I think you have a better case than you do with Thomas.
As a Rethuglican, I would like to quote the severed head of Ash the android in "Alien," right before they unplugged him for good:
"You have my sympathies."
There has never been a responsible Democratic candidate this election. I mean that sincerely. Not one.
Doing the right thing for Democrats means not voting for the nominee this November or voting for McCain.
Frustrated Democrat voters are not anti-female, they're anti-Hillary. Nor are they anti-black: They're anti vile, racist Black Power advocate Barack and his all-entitled spouse Michelle.
"Estrogen vs. melanin": Identity politics festering over forty years distribute only deflated life-jackets. Bruiting Al Gore (why not Ted Kennedy?) compounds the irony. By Rule of 36, this is the McGovernites' last call, the Boomer generation's final opportunity to rule-and-ruin as MzBill sees fit. Fortunately, the Class of 1972 doesn't have a prayer.
william ayres is a professor, not a terrorist.
wright is an excessive speaker, not a spewer of "bile."
you, however, are someone who got lazy about their political information, not someone who "c[ame] to understand that [obama] was a shallow pretender."
What can one say to an Obama supporter that is rational and factual and will get through their trance?
Answer: Absolutely nothing. Because a) they do not function at the level of logic and b) they will defend, however irrationally, against any content that diminishes the unnatural "high" they are on.
Why: Because the entranced Obamanites live in a virtual reality which is committed and dedicated to their own idyllic hallucinations. In fairness, their ideals probably don't differ from the rest of us.
Their misguided expectation that BHO has any intention, commitment or capacity to fulfill this shared vision is where they are going off a cliff - and trying hard to take the rest of us along (the way any kind of addict does).
We would all do well to follow the standard AA advice: Don't try to reason with a drunk while they are on the bottle.
Those fallen under his spell already are not likely to wake up from their trance. But for those still deciding (and who may yet have a primary vote) realize this one underlying truth to the Obama campaign:
HE SAYS NOTHING AND YOU HEAR WHAT YOU HOPE HE MEANS.
I'm furious at the way the party has dumped on Hillary and her supporters. In all my years I've never ever seen anything like this. I will not vote for a condescending racist like obama.
Given how Hillary has conducted herself and her campaign, she deserves every ounce of negative attention.
She's power hungry and disingenuous and must not be let anywhere near the white house with some sort of authority.
Obama will carry november, watch.
Dana,
you are clearly an obamabot.
obama has gotten away with murder.
we must do everything in our power to stop this monster and his freakish cult.
Pennsylvania confirms buyer's remorse.
get fucked you slob-wobbling, wang-doodling son of a bitch!
Ever wonder why you more and more agree with people you fought against for years and less and less with the candidate and positions you claim to support...You people are frauds, pure and simple
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