document.write("

$\"Gravatar\"$ so long!!
Kathryn | 06.04.08 - 10:06 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ its simple really.

I started out as \"anyone-but-Hillary\". When the race started, I'd ruled out Hillary, Kucinich (love the guy, but unelectable), Gravel (insane), and Obama (no experience, vulnerable past). A process of elimination left me supporting Edwards.

So when it came down to two candidates that I'd rejected, I looked at both again -- and the answer was obvious -- Obama was too much of a risk, given the mess that Bush is leaving us with, and Clinton at least understood how things worked, so as an American, rather than as a Democrat, I had to go with Hillary.

I kept hoping that Obama would actually DO something to show that he could effect his 'new politics' -- like take a strong and unequivocal role in the FISA debate -- but he gave us nothing

-- well, not nothing. When I chose Clinton it wasn't because I disliked him -- he just represented risk at a time when we could not afford risk. But over the last three months, everything that I feared about Obama became a reality -- he is tempermentally unsuited to be President, repeated failed to find an effective way to address the questions about his past, and rather than confront his weaknesses as a candidate, he avoided them and blamed everyone but himself for his own inadequacies.

Starting with Texas and Ohio, there should have been no more superdelegate support for Obama, and starting with Pennsylvania, the SDs should have been flocking to Clinton. Those states exposed Obama as the weak candidate -- and potentially disasterous president -- that he is. Yet, despite the overwhelming evidence that Clinton was clearly better for the party and the country, the SDs continued to flock to Obama.

These are the party leaders -- and it is clear that they were pursing a personal agenda, rather than looking out for the good of the nation and the party -- in continuing to endorse Obama in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence.

I have to leave the Party -- when its leadership is so venal and corrupt that it refuses to recognize a disaster staring it in its face, we have no choice.

basically, the Party leadership is acting toward Obama like Bush acted toward Hurricane Katrina.... steps to avert the disaster were not taken, and now that disaster has struck, they're ignoring it.

I can't vote for McCain either, of course -- but hope he wins. If Obama does win, the GOP will gain control of Congress in 2010, and the White House in 2012, and the Democratic Party will be discredited for years to come. ALL that the American people are asking of the democrats is that they come up with someone competent to deal with the mess that Bush will be leaving -- and the Democratic leadership had a multitude of competent people to choose from - and the Party chose Obama.

I'm not a \"hil-bot\" -- while I think this campaign has demonstrated that she really is THE best candidate, for the sake of the country i'd rather see her step aside and allow an 'open convention' wh
paul lukasiak | 06.05.08 - 5:48 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Albert in Florida-
When John Kerry threw in the towel without challenging the Ohio vote in 2004, I threw in the towel on the Democratic Party, but kept my registration for local primary reasons.
After the 2006 election, I continued to be astounded at the tone-deaf ineptitude of Pelosi and Reid (\"impeachment is off the table\").
This year I liked John Edwards and voted for him in the Florida primary. The day before the primary I received an e-mail from Edwards promising to stay in the race until the end (and asking for more money). The very next day after the primary, he quit - before Super Tuesday, when his investment might have yielded some tangeable return- think of the clout he could have wielded in this close primary season.
So after Edwards left I tried to understand what Obama was about. I saw nothing there, a focus group litany of liberal mantras with no specifics for a website, and the fuzzy rhetoric left me scratching my head. Everything I read about the guy screamed \"BEWARE\".
And everytime I heard Hillary speak, I liked what she said. The Clintons were the best thing to happen for the Democratic Party since FDR and yet the \"party leaders\" were willing to stab them in the back for an unproven con artist who never won a real election or did anything of note.
It is astounding to me how the Democrats are able to wrest defeat out of the jaws of victory time after time.
This is one lifelong registered Democrat that will not vote for Barack Obama - I know too much about him and do not like what I see- I will probably vote for Cynthia McKinney on the Green ticket in November if she is on my ballot.
(One exception- if Obama calls for a serious investigation into the crimes of the present administration, he will get my vote).
A McCain victory in November will be the best thing to happen for the present Democratic Party, especially if they control both Houses with a stronger majority. Think about it.
This voter cannot reward with his vote the type of behavior exhibited by the Obama campaign and the DNC this primary season.
I've switched from Air America to the classical station. Good luck to everyone, I've had it !
Albert | 06.05.08 - 6:24 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Albert in Florida-
When John Kerry threw in the towel without challenging the Ohio vote in 2004, I threw in the towel on the Democratic Party, but kept my registration for local primary reasons.
After the 2006 election, I continued to be astounded at the tone-deaf ineptitude of Pelosi and Reid (\"impeachment is off the table\").
This year I liked John Edwards and voted for him in the Florida primary. The day before the primary I received an e-mail from Edwards promising to stay in the race until the end (and asking for more money). The very next day, he quit.
I tried to understand what Obama was about. I saw nothing there, a focus group litany of liberal mantras with no specifics on his website, and all the fuzzy rhetoric left me scratching my head. Everything I read about the guy screamed \"BEWARE\".
And everytime I heard Hillary speak, I liked what she said. The Clintons were the best thing to happen for the Democratic Party since FDR and yet the \"party leaders\" were willing to stab them in the back for an unproven con artist who never won a real election or did anything of note.
The situation we are in needs proven leadership, especially the economy (stupid!).
It is astounding to me how the Democrats are able to wrest defeat out of the jaws of victory time after time.
This is one lifelong registered Democrat that will not vote for Barack Obama - I know too much about him and do not like what I see- I will probably vote for Cynthia McKinney on the Green ticket in November if she is on my ballot.
(One exception- if Obama calls for a serious investigation into the crimes of the present administration, he will get my vote).
A McCain victory in November will be the best thing to happen for the Democratic Party, especially if they control both Houses with a stronger majority. Think about it.
Some may call it spite, many call it racism, it doesn't matter. This voter cannot reward with his vote the type of behavior exhibited by the Obama campaign and the DNC this primary season.
I've turned off Air America and started listening to the classical station. I've had it! The Democratic Party has broken my heart too many times. So good luck to everyone!
Albert | 06.05.08 - 6:35 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ The DNC has engaged in vote manipulation adn outright fraud. My loyalty is first to my country- party be DAMNED!
I will NOT capitulate and vote for a candidate whom I consider to be totally unqualified, whose supporters engage in intimidation and bullying, a candidate who associates with Anti-American Marxists who want to bring our great nation down.
NO MORE! I want the best candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton, not the false god the media and the DNC are trying to shove down my throat.
God Bless America!
Melissa Whitener | Homepage | 06.05.08 - 7:40 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ It's now the party of Obama, Jesse Jackson,and Al Sharpton. So long, Dems!
Gerry | 06.05.08 - 8:13 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I left the democratic party 6/4/08 and registered Independent because I think obama is an empty suit backed by young people who have no idea of what kind of shape this country and the world are in. More than at anytime in history we need a strong leader which Obama isn't the only experence he has is three years in the Senate of which two year's has been spent ccmpaigning for president.Obama's past is filled with his association with criminals such as Rezko nad Weatherman Ayers.Obama is the most unqualified person to ever run for president. I will not vote for obama or John McCain.
clyde | Homepage | 06.05.08 - 9:11 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Well, I haven't left the party, but you guys apparently have because you're either childishly bitter, or flat-out racist (I'm not attacking you, see Gerry's comment). Doubt this comment will get through moderation, so between you and me moderator, you're a sore loser and in serious need of some maturity.
Andrew | 06.05.08 - 9:45 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ As the lady said \"God damn the democrats I am voting for McCain\"

Obama did not want to count my vote in June so he damn well will not count my vote in November. Michigan for McCain!
Carol DeJong | 06.05.08 - 10:42 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I can not believe that this is going on what the heck who brought him into the party and gave him it as apresent he is calling it MY PARTY IWANT A NEW PARTY
Sharon home state Pa. | 06.05.08 - 12:27 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I used to think that only the Republicans were underhanded, dirty dealers. My eyes were opened when I watched that RBC meeting. What the Democratic leadership chose to do with Michigan is against every principal of democracy. I was proud of Harold Ickes for standing up to them, but in the end, the underhanded, dirty dealing, back door politics won again.
At this point, I don't know what we voters can do except choose between the lesser of two evils. For me that choice is John McCain. I may disagree with him on certain issues, but in his heart, I believe he's a good man who will put America's best interests first.
Lucinda | 06.05.08 - 4:04 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I wouldn't vote for Obama for any reason on any ticket or any combination ticket. He is disgusting. I feel somewhat baffled by the black voters, over 90% voted for him. Reverse racism. The Clintons have work hard and all their lives for the black community yet 90% of the black voters turned their backs on them because Obama is black. Not what he has done or what he said or that he has no record or his associations. Just because he is black was enough to win their votes. How shameful is that for the black community.
JP49 | 06.05.08 - 4:16 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I have been a lifelong democrat, except for a brief moment of insanity when I registered Republican for a year. I've worked on campaigns. I've gotten people out to vote, and I've gotten more seniors rides to polls and helped them straighten out their registration issues more than I can recall.

When this election cycle started, I liked Hillary, Obama and Edwards. The only reason that I voted for Obama was that the pundits said he had the best chance of beating any Republican in the fall. I had checked with his campaign to see how he felt about seating the Florida and Michigan delegates, as I had been making calls and sending emails to try to overturn that decision. I was lied to by his campaign, as they told me that he wanted the delegates seated, but this was out of his control. I wish I would have saved those emails.

Long story short, I began to think something was up when the took his name off the ballot in Michigan, and then ran ads down here and denied he broke the pledge. Then the race-bating with the Clintons started. I don't know much, but I do know that Bill and Hillary are not racist. Then he lost in Florida and declared our race \"meaningless,\" and a few days later, I noticed how \"in the tank\" the MSM was for him before Super Tuesday. Then I found out local grassroots organizations down here were planning on circulating petitions NOT to count the votes. After cautioning a young Obama supporter and getting fed back a tirade of \"how dare I criticize the only man who's ever inspired her,\" I decided something must seriously be wrong with this man. I started doing my own investigations and I knew about Wright, Rezko, Ayers and the lot before these stories broke in the media. That's when I began to really listen to Hillary, and I saw her arguments were more substantive. She really became the populist in this campaign.

But the DNC... Oh, the wretched DNC. I don't know how Donna Brazile can look at herself in the mirror, remembering those 20,000 voters who were \"disqualified\" by Katherine Harris in 2000, while at the same time, she stacked this race in Obama's favor. The harsh sanctions against Florida and Michigan, designed to level the playing field for Obama (we were both only to lose half our delegates). Handed him 59 delegates that he didn't even earn. The party officials (Pelosi and Reid) who made the super delegates declare before the convention, and the way they let his campaign attack the characters of Hillary and Bill Clinton, while at the same time, letting Obama play sexist and Marxist songs at his rallies. I don't even know why they had a primary. Why didn't they just declare a socialist coup and be done with it.

As a result, I can no longer be a member of this party. I thought we were better than Republicans. So, I am now an Independent... or I'm working on it. It's hard to make the change, but I have to do it. Tomorrow is officially the day.
Mary Kay in Florida | 06.05.08 - 4:27 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ After 36 years of voting as a Democrat, I changed my party affilation to Independent today. A party that condones fraud, sexism, backroom deals, Clinton Bashing, delegate rigging, a biased media, and anoints an incompetent manipulator does not have my support.
Eilene | 06.05.08 - 4:47 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ The Dems are morally bankrupt and no longer share my democratic values. Hillary is to good for them. They deserve all the bad shit that's coming in the Fall. Nothing can save them from themselves. \"We are the ones we've been waiting for\", yeah, good luck with that! They will never see another penny from me or any free volunteer time. Sorry HRC, but I Quit!
LauraInCali | Homepage | 06.05.08 - 5:46 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I have been a Democrat from birth, being born into a staunchly Democratic/pro labor Irish Catholic family.

I was also raised border line socialist, so it is not Obama's \"radical\" stance I have a problem with. I find nothing radical about him, but samo samo Chicago politics.

I sent a letter of my resignation as a Democratic when they turned their non-delegable war powers over to Bush after 911, but never officially changed my registration.

Yes, I was angry with Hillary and all the rest then, but realized that only about 10% of the country was able to think with anything approaching reason after 911.

When this campaign began, I liked Hillary and Obama. I was going to vote for Hillary, other than her choice on the war powers, I like her politics and had always felt she was given a raw deal and was an excellent politician and dedicated civil servant.

I, like everyone else I spoke with in the early days, felt we couldn't go wrong with either of these choices. I hoped whoever won would choose the other as their VP.

I have moved to this position; I cannot support a party and a candidate that has based the foundation of their campaign on the hatred of women.

Then the vitreolic hatred of women began coming from every angle, UNCHECKED. Hatred of the various favorite groups to hate is part of probably all societies, including America, but that it was to go on to this day unchecked and unresponded to this day by party leadership and Obama is unforgivable.

I could sign off now and find entries online made in the last hour that express repulsive hatred for women, these haters have used this campaign as an excuse to release the ugliness they carry inside.

Yes, the racist have stepped forward also, but in far few numbers. From the outside, it appears that 98% of the males backing Obama hate all older women. I hope the younger women in that camp realize, that if they are lucky, they too will someday be older women.

This week I change my registration to independent and may vote for McCain. Hope Hillary begins a 3rd party. May write her in. Will only vote for Obama if Hillary is on the ticket.

Michelle
California
Michelle | 06.05.08 - 5:59 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I was a strong Edwards supporter, with both Clinton & Obama distant second choices. I didn't decide to vote for Clinton until Election Day, mostly because she was so much more impressive in the debates. I thought she mopped up the floor with him.

I had a bad feeling about Obama from the beginning, but I tried to squelch it because a lot of it was because his supporters turned me off so much. Other than expressing the generational resentments that were a cornerstone of his campaign, they couldn't enlighten me in the least as to what his candidacy was about. I kept getting referred to his website. What the hell kind of campaign is it when thousands of people cheer wildly at vapid speeches, but have to refer you to a website to find out anything specific?

The \"unity\" theme is Orwellian. He set out to divide the party and he did it.

Despite all the claims against Sen. Clinton, which the media co-operated in blowing up, I didn't see her deal out any low blows, but Obama did. The smearing of the Clintons as racist would have been laughable if it hadn't been so depressing - the term \"fairy tale\"? Lyndon Johnson passing the Civil Rights Act? Jesse Jackson running for president? These are evidence of RACISM? And the suggestion that they were responsible for the \"politics of the 90s\" is slanderous. They - and we - really were attacked by a vast right-wing conspiracy. To blame it on them is to rewrite history.

This is not someone I can support. And the rigging of the MI & FL primaries stands in my mind right beside FL 2000. I can't belong to any party that does this to its own.

Democrat since I first voted in 1972, I am one no longer, since Wednesday. I just hope there are enough of us to wake them up.

Denise in San Francisco
deniseb | 06.05.08 - 7:32 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I was a strong Edwards supporter, with both Clinton & Obama distant second choices. I didn't decide to vote for Clinton until Election Day, mostly because she was so much more impressive in the debates. I thought she mopped up the floor with him.

I had a bad feeling about Obama from the beginning, but I tried to squelch it because a lot of it was because his supporters turned me off so much. Other than expressing the generational resentments that were a cornerstone of his campaign, they couldn't enlighten me in the least as to what his candidacy was about. I kept getting referred to his website. What the hell kind of campaign is it when thousands of people cheer wildly at vapid speeches, but have to refer you to a website to find out what he wants to accomplish?

The \"unity\" theme is Orwellian. He set out to divide the party and he did it.

Despite all the claims against Sen. Clinton, which the media co-operated in blowing up, I didn't see her deal out any low blows, but Obama did. The smearing of the Clintons as racist would have been laughable if it hadn't been so depressing - the term \"fairy tale\"? Lyndon Johnson passing the Civil Rights Act? Jesse Jackson running for president? These are evidence of RACISM? And the suggestion that they were responsible for the \"politics of the 90s\" is slanderous. They - and we - really were attacked by a vast right-wing conspiracy. To blame it on them is to rewrite history.

This is not someone I can support. And the rigging of the MI & FL primaries stands in my mind right beside FL 2000. I can't belong to any party that does this to its own.

Democrat since I first voted in 1972, I am one no longer, since Wednesday. I just hope there are enough of us to wake them up.
deniseb | 06.05.08 - 7:35 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Please see the letter I sent to the DNC today...

Dear Howard Dean, Super Delegates and members of the DNC,

Please share this with all of your colleagues. This is notice that I will no longer distinguish myself as a Democrat. Although my state does not require me to commit to a party, I have always voted down the line for Democrats since I have been legally able to vote. I will no longer do so and from now on I will now consider myself to be an Independent. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. Below are some of the reasons why.

Many party insiders believe that, over time, most Clinton supporters will decide that a reluctant vote for Obama is better than a spiteful vote for McCain. But what you party insiders don't seem to grasp is that we do have a lot more in common with Mccain than with Obama. If it were any other republican running this year I would never be able to vote for a republican, but Mccain has always appealed to moderate democrats. I want someone with experience running this country. I think it is much worse to have another inexperienced president than another republican president. I will not be scared by wedge issues, such as abortion, to intimidate me into voting for Obama, nor will many other Clinton supporters. We will not let the same tactics used by George W. Bush be perpetrated by a neo-liberal such as Obama who talks out of both sides of his mouth. We Clinton supporters are too smart for that. We do not want an extreme version of the democratic party and we won't let democrats be hijacked by ultra-liberals, as the republicans were hijacked by the right-wing nuts.

In addition the mob-mentality and win-at-any-cost attitude that Obama supporters have is truly scary. I will not give into their threats, abuse or intimidation. They try to silence anyone opposed to their candidate, or who even questions his judgment. This is completely undemocratic, just as the use of force and intimidation by Obama supporters during the caucuses were. It seems that Obama and his campaign took good notes when George W. Bush ran for office and are mimicking his strategies almost perfectly. It astonishes me that you 'leaders' in the DNC cannot see that. His campaign demonizes Clinton and her supporters, calling out the race card on anyone that chose not to vote for him or questions him on his experience. He used divisive and sexist language when referring to Clinton and her campaign. Not once did the DNC stand up for her, instead you sat silently letting the media and the Obama campaign imply that Hillary and Bill Clinton were racists. Here are two people that have worked on behalf of civil rights there entire lives and so easily they are called out as racists for Obama's political gains?! This kind of thing will surely set racial issues back for years to come.

I felt voiceless for the last seven years during the presidency of GW, and now my own party has denied my voice. I feel completely
Andrea | 06.05.08 - 8:35 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ So long! I donated to Kerry and Clinton, but the Democratic Party is the party of spineless morons. Any party that allows Bill Clinton to be called a racist by an inexperienced nobody has got to go!
Clint | 06.05.08 - 9:08 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ thanks for this site. will tell others. My reason? Too many to take up the space and your time reading. Many sound like the rest, well spoken, above.

so I'll only add two. When he came out of hiding, first time, howard dean insisted: SDs must follow the will of the people. then he climbed under his rock again. When he came out 2nd time he said, SDs should vote their own best judgment for the party, then disappeared again. When we asked, why he did not even seem to notice the virulent disrespect of MSM for 1 of the 2 Dem candidates, he said that wasn't his place to do. Then, after HILL won state after state (Will of the People) and there was too much obama dirt to even keep track off (issue of judgment) Dean came out a 3rd time and told SDs just do whatever you want! which clearly translated to do what I want!
Then he appeared only once more, to criticize the press for attacking obama!!! And opened the 5/31 Ruleless, clueless debacle with a stern statement condemning the racism in this campaign!!! Had to see it to really get it - one power-hungry crook covering for another power-hungry crook

Other than that - I investigated obama after I had quickly seen through him. I lived in a 3rd world black country where I wrote guidebooks for tourists - to serve as a cultural integration bridge. I learned 1st hand of 3rd world political corruption terrorism techniiques - and I learned about gigolos. Spotted obama for what he was, first time I saw him- a 3rd world gigolo. Then read review of his \"Dreams\" where reviewer spotted the same manipulative, sociopathic disrespect and trickery toward those perceived as \"having more\". Investigating him after, only fleshed out the details of his morbid past and immorality.

Why am I leaving the party I have worked for thirty years? Because obama is a walking toxic waste dump and has contaminated the party, by knowing which ones to bribe, which ones to bully, which ones to make phony promises to and which ones to tempt into sharing his \"power\". He evokes the worst and lowest in all that he touches and this party has become more contaminated than nuclear waste.
jmk | Homepage | 06.05.08 - 9:24 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I just reregistered as an Independent yeaterday. I will no longer be a part of a democratic party that does not care about me and my needs. Hillary won the popular vote, like gore did. We bitched and complained about that counting then but we do not seem to care this time around. I feel so sorry for the Democratic party that elected a total leftist, elistist, anti god radical that can never be elected. Oh well I guess I have learned the hard way that the democrats do not want or deserve me so I have changed to an Independent and will be voting for McCain in the fall, at least he respects me.
Kim | 06.05.08 - 11:05 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ DO NOT WRITE IT HILLARY'S NAME. I found out that in most states that would be a vote for OBAMA. Either don't vote or vote McCain.
DJ | 06.06.08 - 12:03 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I started out about a year and a half ago sort of impressed with Obama. As it got closer to my state caucus, I decided that I better check the guy out and decide who I wanted to vote for. I was leaning towards Obama, but also liked Clinton and Edwards. I went to all 3 websites, looked at their voting records and thought about their resumes. When I looked at Obama compred to the others, I said, \"Well, this guy's a joke.\" I went for Clinton. I decided she was the best candidate and most qualified for the job. I was turned off by Obama because it occurred to me this is a nothing guy, running on Clinton's platform with a couple of downgrades, who is being handed a job while the woman of substance is being picked over. Obama won our caucus which was odd because I was in a room full of people who spoke for Hillary and had on Hillary buttons, etc., yet the count came out heavily Obama. I was stunned. The numbers did not correlate. Yet I went home and started watching Obama to try to see what all the fuss was about. In the past 4 months since, I still don't know what all the fuss is about. I've waited for him to inspire me, I saw him as naive. I wanted to hear some kind of real plan, all I saw were lies and arrogance. I wanted my party to pick the winner as more and more I saw him as very unelectible once all of his skeletons come out. I researched him by following the Rezko trial in the Chicago papers and connecting all the dots of Obama to Operation Board games and realized that even if it is not true (I believe it is), it can be spun to look really, really bad. I hoped my party would pull their heads out of their a-- and see that Clinton is the best candidate. Instead they threw her away. For what? This nothing man, with no substance, whose supporters can't tell you one thing he's accomplished? A guy who cheated to get into the senate. Let's be real here. Maybe getting all the opponents off the ballot so you run unopposed as the only dems choice is legal, but not moral or what a strong candidate of substance would do and it makes me wonder about what happened in Michigan. The Florida primary is absurd since the republican legialature controlled the date of the primary and there weren't enough dems to stop it and in my opinion Floridians should not be punished for what republicans forced on them. Florida should be counted full, as well as Michigan and Obama not on the ballot? Bummer when you make a bad choice because you are naive (or corrupt). If not tampering, then it shows that inexperience. I could go on all day here about why I won't vote for Obama under any circumstances, but basically, I see him as a bad guy. A guy who says one thing, but his actions say much different, a liar and a cheat and one I would never support. To watch my party's behavior has been appalling. Why have leaders who don't lead? I will be voting for McCain unless a 3rd party with any viability crops up and I signed up with the RNC and they very much e
SC | 06.06.08 - 7:03 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ As regards this last post: You can write in Hillary's name in many states. Check with your Secretary of State for your state and your election board. Also you can check with: writeinhillary.org (or .com, can't remember which).

In any event double check advice on write in options with your local agencies, not advice from blogs).

Best Wishes to us all!
Jay
jeannie | 06.06.08 - 7:21 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I have voted Democrat for forty years. This will be my first election to not follow the ticket. I started out supporting John Edwards as I did the last election, when he dropped out I started researching their positions. Obama doesn't really articulate about anything. For me the race baiting and calling Bill Clinton a raciest was the end. The DNC stealing votes for Obama was another wake up call. I will never vote for Obama. I will be voting for John McCain and against any Dem supporter of Obama.
Janet from North Hollywood | 06.06.08 - 8:25 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Ok, here goes...the problem is keeping it concise as I have so much to say. I have moved from the Clinton camp to the McCain camp. I cannot believe it either. Aside from all of the problems I have with the way Obama handled his campaign in the primary season, I have new BIG problems with how he is handling things now. No, I don't HAVE to support him and resent being told I do. No, I will not \"come around\" like some mindless glob than can be so easily manipulated. No, I won't forget/forgive how insulted I have felt throughout the primaries. And absoutely NO I don't accept this current \"the ends justifies the means\" argument that is being used to excuse how he played politics. When George Bush played dirty to win, all the Democrats were up in arms. When Obama plays dirty to win, he is a political genius, a messiah and a pop culture phenomenon... Well, I will give it to him, Obama certainly has put the \"HIP\" in Hypocrite!
Joel | 06.06.08 - 9:42 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Where do I begin, I have left my party of over 30 years. Yeah, I am very sad about it, but I just cant support a party that does not support their own.
Nancy Pelosi--what a joke, all talk and no action.
Howard Dean and Nancy Brazile--OMG what the hell was that?
May 31,2008--we will never forget the message you sent the American People--DNC what a joke, stole delegates from Hillary and gave them to BO? What kind of f***ed up mess is that? Sorry for the language, I dont usually blog like that, but I am so damn mad I could spit!
We are 18 million strong and I firmly believe we can make a difference. Our vocies must be heard! We must make the DNC pay for the unjust way our candidate has been treated! Never before in my voting history, have I seen a man less prepared to run a country. BO is not a patriot in any sense of the word. He is a bigot and a racist!
We are not a bunch of sheep that will blindly follow a candidate that shouldnt even be there in the first place, just because he's using the democratic party to win the White House! We will not give our 18 million votes to BO because for some strange reason you are backing a man who is ill-prepared to run our country? Why? Why?
I wanted answers, I doubt I will ever get them, the democratic party has been destroyed by BO, I hope the DNC and the aforementioned are happy with what they have done.
We have a totally electable candidate, but you are not backing her, why?
My belief is that the democratic party does not want to win 2008, and we will give them their wish. BO can make all the promises he wants to any and all lawbreakers like himself, cocaine,weed,gay sex, all this in his past? Right 1999 wasnt too far in the past was it?
HE DOES NOT NOW, NOR WILL HE EVER HAVE THE CHARACTER TO RUN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE SOME BAD THINGS COMING IF THIS MAN MAKES IT!
My vote for the first time in my life, will go to a republican, I will vote McCain because that is the only way to insure that BO does not get my vote, if I stay home and BO wins by one vote, that would be the worst. So a vote for McCain is a vote against putting the wrong man in office.
They have the right woman to beat McCain, and if they open their collective eyes they will see that. To not endorse the most electable candidate is just too strange to me, something must be going on, but they arent telling.
DaddysDarlin | 06.06.08 - 11:07 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ This is the note I sent to family and friends about my decision - I sent it on June 1, 2008.

When I was a kid in school - pretty much from day one - I was never part of the \"club.\" I didn't have the right clothes, right hair, right makeup, didn't know the right movies, music stars or catch phrases. I had huge coke-bottle glasses for much of my childhood and a pretty outdated afro until I was a sophmore in high school. I did get good grades and knew the answers when teachers called on me in class. But, that didn't exactly get me invited to the \"cool\" table in the cafeteria. I didn't mind actually because I had books and my family to keep me company, and that's all I cared about or needed, but I knew that in school there was an \"in\" group and an \"out\" group and which one I was in.

It took me 'till early in my junior year in high school before I realized that there were a heck of a lot of kids in the \"out\" group. (Yes, I was slow in coming to this fact). They were a very diverse group and were amazingly interesting - they were song writers, dreamers, math whizzes, chess champions, punk rockers, engineers, sculptors, painters, authors, historians, athletes (just not of organized sports), literary critics, chemists, anarchists, communists, socialists, yes - some fascists, capitalists, third-world liberationists, geniuses, chefs, fashion designers and comedians. When not in class, they hung out only in the basement, where the art rooms were, and outside one particular back door at my high school where intellectual debates raged and smoking was allowed if you were of age. The best part was, anyone could and was welcome to join - no price of entry and no rules, actually no organization at all really - other than that everyone's personhood and quirks were respected. I never went back to the cafeteria and my life has been a mostly happy one ever since. (Sorry, mama since you probably thought I ate lunch in the cafeteria every day - but I never did smoke!) So, is it any wonder that I joined the democratic party?

Yesterday, the DNC told me that the party actually (unbeknownst to me all these years) is the \"in\" group, and I am now part of the \"out\" group again, politically. I thought I was part of a party that held complete enfranchisement as a bedrock principle. One person, one vote. The intent of the voter; the will of the voters - not just in a general election but in every election. Yesterday, it finally dawned on me that the democratic party is not about \"democracy\" per se, but is about rules uber alles (even when they disenfranchise and even when the rules are not really followed all the time for everyone), order and \"unity.\" I'm not sure what \"unity\" means as the party now defines it, but counting every voter and respecting their votes actually doesn't lead to unity all the time. Unity is what the politburo asks for - democracies ask that we discern what the people want - even if it's messy.

We
Dawn - Washington State | 06.06.08 - 11:39 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Here is why I am no longer a democrat.

I am pissed at these self-centered party elders who get mad at call us hateful and racist when we, the voters that they are supposed to serve, write to them with our concerns and questions. Just because you don't like the question, doesn't mean you get to dismiss our concerns and treat us of if we are any less important than yourself. You all seem to forget who you serve. This isn't about the party or your careers. It's supposed to be about the country. GROW UP.

I am tired of being told that I'm not really angry- I'm just emotional.

I am tired of being told to \"just shut up and fall in line bitch\".

I am tired of being told that because I support Hillary I must be a hateful, racist, uneducated, menopausal, poor, hick. ( I am a 40 year old college educated, city dwelling, latte drinking moderate)

Just like we were told we were unpatriotic for criticizing Bush. Now we are told we are racist for disagreeing with ANYTHING related to Obama.
How is this change?

The DNC asks how can I vote for McCain, a man who doesn't share the values of the DNC? Honestly? I don't know what the DNC stands for anymore. It's certainly not free and fair elections.

I'm done with the DNC- I no longer know who you are.
Nancy Cummings | 06.06.08 - 2:15 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ i have only left it temporarily, i am at the grief stage where now i must fight to get the party back to the good parts of it. i will use my votes to purge it of those elites who were bought by oblahblah, i will vote against any sd's and surrogates for bo, that way we can bring the party back to the dems who care about us like stephanie tubbs-jones, arthenia joyner, evan bayh, and hillary clinton. first purge, then promote and support the part of the party who listens to us and are passionate about representing us. once we are in the majority again we can make sure this insurgency of obama types will never creep into power positions in our party ever again. i am ready to take back my party and i hope others join me in using their votes to do so as well. sweet revenge and then sweet rewards to cometh for loyal dems. first order of business vote against obambi....
kanani va | 06.06.08 - 3:07 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I actually left the dems way back when; they have rarely spoken for me. However, with Hillary in it this year, I thought I would (when re-doing my voters' registration) actually go ahead and sign with the Dems. This was prior to the nastiness of the Obama camp and the Obama supporters. Still, I campaigned for Hillary, while maintaining my Independent status.
In 2000 and in 2004, I did not like either democratic candidate; I liked Bush even less (actually, I abhor Bush)... yet, I got myself behind and talked to many about voting for the Dem.. I made calls- I baked pastries and I hosted events. I did everything right; the Dems did everything wrong (in their choices). Now, here we go again. The Dems have really screwed up another \"given\" election! How did this happen? Can our country really afford this? NO. And, NO; I will NOT be getting behind Obama in any way. My vote will be a write-in for Hillary Clinton. And, I will not be considering the democratic party as MY political home ever again. Truly.
Anne Beckett | 06.06.08 - 3:51 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Kim, Illinois

I didn't leave the Democratic Party it left me. I left me behind when they foisted a senator with 1 year of experience as our nominee. It left me when they said that FL & MI only count for half and then gave 4 of Hillary's delegates to a person who sued to be removed from the ballot. It left me when they ignored the extreme sexism heaped not only on Hillary but also her supporters. If certainly left me when they kept trying to force Hillary out even before Super Tuesday. It left me when they said \"Get over it and get in line.\" It left me when they refused to hear our voices.
They will hear us in the GE and as they ask for donations.
I'm done, no longer can they count on my support, my contributions or my vote.
Kim | 06.06.08 - 4:04 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ December 15 2000-May 31 2008
That's my tenure in the so called \"democratic\" party. I joined because of
the first Florida theft,left over the other. I think they need to change their name soon - the irony is way too heavy. I recommend the \"Bros before Hos\" Party.
Robbedvoter | Homepage | 06.06.08 - 4:41 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I actually have more to say about why I will not be voting for the democratic \"nominee\" (using quotes to signify that, to me, this was yet another stolen election). Hillary DID garner more votes AND she obtained a great amount of these after we in Texas voted FOR HER. Yet, for whatever reason, the delegates (my nearest delegate for sure) gave the nod to Obama. \"My\" pledge-delegate came out the MORNING of our primary to give it to Obama, though Hillary did win in my area.
And, yes; at the very beginning of this election process, I said I would NOT be voting for Hillary- I did not believe that a woman would be elected, especially when it came to other women voting! We all do know, as women, that we are so much of the time our own worst enemies. Imagine my surprise as the momentum built FOR a woman- But,this was not just ANY woman. This is Hillary Clinton and she has the knowledge, experience, and ability to work WITH Washington insiders.. this is terribly important when getting down and dirty in the White-House id concerned.
Now, Obama? hello? HOW many times can a man actually vote \"present\" rather than nay or yay on a bill before people wake the heck up and realise that this man does NOT have it in him to do the job(s) for which he was \"elected\" (again quotes as it seems he truly had no opposition in state and national/state elections). has the dog eaten his homework? Perhaps it was the sheep (referring to the sheeple/children who have gotten so far up his rear end that it seems they cannot see what's happening in the daylight)? Do they not wish to open their eyes and see that we will have a presidency much the same as what we have had under Bush- Obama will not vote with Congress- or, perhaps he will as he won't be able to truly abstain if president. Of course, a veto may be too much for him so I see earmarks out the proverbial ying-yang.. IF he could actually win in the Fall. And, I do not believe he could.
However, I will NOT be falling into line and voting for Obama. THIS is the first time since 1976 that I have voted MY heart rather than sticking up for the democratic nominee-- well, other than my votes for Bill Clinton; Bill did a great job and I remember the Clinton years fondly. I had money in the bank and gasoline in my car!
So, Dems- I will not be woting with you unless voting with you is writing in Hillary Clinton's name. For me, at this point, she is the ONLY Democrat and the only person in this country who CAN lead us out of the mess that has been the Bush Administration!
Please- vote with me.. A write-in for Hillary is the only favorable thing we can do this year!
Anne (Austin, TX)
Anne Beckett | 06.06.08 - 4:47 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Everyone's jumping on the Obama bandwagon. I'm not. After 32 years as a Democrat, basically since I was 18, I've given up. The Dictator National Party fills me with revulsion. I can't vote for McCain but I'm an Independent and looking for a third way.

I'm first and last a Hillary Clinton supporter. I've given the DNC tons of money over the years. This year I'm abstaining from all political donations.
Anne | 06.06.08 - 5:37 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I think the Democratic Party left me in 2000. They allowed the election to be stolen. Then they allowed Bush his war. Then they allowed the Patriot Act. Then they allowed Alito and Roberts to SCOTUS. Then they allowed the outing of a CIA agent to go unquestioned for months, etc, etc, etc. Never mind te 2004 election, too many issues there. They haven't stood for democratic principles in a long time. But still I stayed and stuck by them and supported them. Making excuses for them.

Then this election rolls around. I originally was an Edwards supporter left over from 2004. But when I witnessed him and Obama gang up on Hillary it was a turning point for me. What I didn't know then was that it was just all part of the plan to force feed half the party Barack Obama. There was no stopping it, votes didn't matter, polls didn't matter, democratic principles didn't matter. Racism = taboo, Sexism = OK. It was just a plan, then we get to the down right stealing of an election that was planned from the beginning too. The way primaries and caucuses were set up in the schedule. It all just makes so much sense, to take any momentum away from Hillay for FL and MI, it was a plan. Then the RBC and the farce perpetrated was just the cherry on top.

Now they want us to lay prone so they can screw us again. Nope. Won't do it. I am not voting against my interest as far as I am concerned. My interest is to belong to a party that represents me. The democratic party no longer provides me that comfort.

Goodbye!
Sheri | 06.06.08 - 5:38 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ The previous comments sum it up so well for me (gee I sound like Obama, just using other people's words). Maybe I just can't speak about it anymore, I'm tired of speaking out and being called every name in the book by obamabots. Obama says words matter, but the words of Hillary supporters do not. Hillary said she would speak for the invisible, I didn't realize at the time she was speaking about me...now, I feel I have lost my voice.
Jennifer | 06.06.08 - 8:10 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Reagan's economics didn't work for my family. I worked tirelessly for Mondale/Ferraro when I was thirteen. That ticket turned me on to politics. During that time, there was a debate in which Bush called her a 'bitch' and was rewarded for it by the press. Rewarded! I have been a democrat ever since.

But now, in so many ways Air America and NPR (which should know better) and the MSNBC, etc have been calling Hillary a 'bitch' without ceasing. \"She's 'cheating', she's using Rovian strategies, she reminds me of my ex-wife...\" Obama's supporters have repeated the 'bitch' line five hundred times a day in different ways. And it worked.

I cannot vote for someone who wins in this way. I cannot reward the democratic party for encouraging it. I want to send a clear message that this doesn't work. Voting for Obama will not send this message. I will vote for McCain in November.
Gwen - Wisconsin | 06.06.08 - 10:49 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ At the time Edwards dropped out, there were two candidates still standing, both of whom had started near the bottom of my preference ranking. When I reassessed them - my sole criterium being competence - one remained on my list and one was off my list entirely. The incompetent one had spent a year on content-free campaigning. Nonetheless, the Democratic party bent, changed and ignored rules in order to gift him with their nomination.
I've removed myself from a number of mailing lists. (I'd been added to most of them through my contributions to Democratic candidates. I can use that extra money on gasoline this year anyway.) When the election is over, and Dean and Brazile and Pelosi and Obama are gone from Democratic prominence, I'll reassess. On 11-4, I'll vote third party.
dopp | 06.07.08 - 4:59 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Obama does not seem to have any judgment, an essential quality for a politician.
BA | 06.07.08 - 6:57 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ The DNC decisions about Michigan and Florida are truly the \"Audacity of Hope-Lost\".

Dean, Pelosi and Reid should be removed - to date, their policies and decisions have done nothing but
destroy opportunity - they are beyond inept.

The cable media plays a role in this
farce in terms of the derogatory remarks about Hillary Clinton - I urge all who agree to make known their
opinions to the appropriate cable CEOs. Also, a request to prevent all
the so-called pundits from referring to \"us\" as \"ordinary Americans\".

As many of you have stated, I no longer consider myself to be a Democrat.

Note: By 1870, black men were given the right to vote: 15th Amendment.
Black women were not. Of course, white
women never had that right, pre-1776
and forward.

And yes, Jim Crow strategies seriously
prevented black male voting rights; still, they were on the books for black men for fifty years before the
19th Amendment enfranchised women in 1920.

How long will women have to wait to
be accorded first-class status as
presidential candidates now that a
black man has been awarded that status? Another 50 years?
Jan in California | 06.07.08 - 7:06 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ As of 6/10/2008 I will no longer be a Democrat, after 37 years. There is no Democratic Party anymore. This year it has become the Un-Democratic Party and it has been taken over by THUGS and I want no part of it.

I will not vote for any Democrat that has supported the vile treatment of the first viable woman to run for President, a sitting NY Senator, a former First Lady, and a champion of Democratic values.

Once again the Democrats are about to nominate an unelectable elitist and will once again hand the White House over to the Republicans. In previous years this was upsetting to me, however, this year I will be voting for that Republican to insure that the unqualified elitist never become POTUS as it is, in my books, COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY.
JMA in Nevada | 06.07.08 - 8:43 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ \"STAND-UP, GET UP; STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGTS!\".. \"DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT!\"

As the commenter above noted; it does need to be Nation before Party. And, this is WHY I am asking that Hillary Clinton turn her back to the democratic party, along with so many of us disenfranchised voters, and turn her face toward what can again be a great NATION. It is past time that we have a chance to elect the one person with OUR values to be the POTUS. And, in my mind and my heart, this person cannot be and will not be Obama OR McCain.
I would hope that many here would send your emails to Hillary and advise her, as so many states do NOT allow for write-in votes, per se, to get herself out of the party who has treated her SO badly and run as an Independent candidate.
The (childish) Obama-mamas need to learn what TRUE feminism is as it is NOT blowing-off the women who came before them and fought to make their lives so much easier. They do not seem to understand the more recent history of these United States....
Hillary '08 (Independent voter)..
Anne..
Anne Beckett | 06.07.08 - 9:38 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I have switched parties after 44 years voting of Democratic. Unity forced is Unity denied. I will never be forced to vote for Obama--I still believe you need experience to be president. McCain 08.
christie-Nevada | 06.07.08 - 11:45 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Me, I was willing to listen to everyone in the beginning, but Hillary was/is so much more articulate, thoughtful, thinks on her feet, has the experience. The misogyny really got me in her corner and when the RBC/DNC pulled their stunt in hijacking delegates and disenfranchising voters, that was it for me. I just sent in my NJ reregistration to unaffiliated. Since she has suspended, I will wait and see what happens in August - the 88th anniversary of women getting the right to vote!
Delphyne | 06.07.08 - 2:15 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I will not vote for Obama. I am having a really bad time with my family because of this. I have stopped talking about politics and I don't say that I will vote for McCain in front of them, but I am pledged to do it because I will not reward the behavior of a party gone wrong.

The day I read that Obama had accused Bill and Hillary Clinton of being racists was the day I came to despise Obama. Then I read in Newsweek that Rahm Emanuel said he and Ted Kennedy sat Bill down and told him to \"just shut up and stay off the campaign trail.\"

That day I knew the fix was in, the DEMOCRATS were trying to keep Bill from speaking out for Hillary and being heard. That day, I wrote Howard Dean and told him to take my name off ALL his mailing lists and that I was quitting the Party and I told him why.

If I ever had any second thoughts--which I haven't--hearing the cruel, mean-spirited, disrespectful comments my step-children and acquaintances still lob at Hillary, even in her hour of defeat, is enough to make me vow over and over that I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA!

Dubya's people had a saying: You lost, get over it! I have a saying for Obama's people: You won, get over it!
tke | 06.07.08 - 2:58 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I live in the Banana Republic of Michigan, where Party Bosses will take your vote and give it to Obama, who REMOVED his name from the Ballot. Coward Dean and the DNC broke the rules, instead of taking half the Michigan and Florida votes, as the rules call for, they took all the votes. We had a State-paid-for Primary in Michigan, certified by Elections Officials. The DNC can count the votes as cast by the voters, or they CAN NOT count the votes as cast by the voters, But they can't CHANGE THE VOTES THAT WERE CAST. The DEMS should be changing their Party Name as they are no longer DEMOCRATIC.
jim aaron | 06.07.08 - 4:42 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I live in Michigan. I was a John Edwards supporter that \"hated\" Hillary. I tried to get the Michigan Democratic Party to not switch primary dates. They wouldn't listen and even hung up on me. I kept wondering why John wasn't doing more with Bonior on his team to stop what was happening in Michigan. John never gave me a good reason when he got out of the race. I felt like he was \"forced\". I gave him a lot of money and he was on fire going to the convention one night and the next day, he just simply \"bowed\" out. I felt confused. I started listening more closely to the other two main candidates. I had read too much about Barack and I didn't like his dirty, cheating way like the caucus take overs and his house deal. Hillary started sounding more and more like the message John had been pitching. I saw the MSM, Barack and his supporters and the Democratic Party hurl insult after insult upon her. I was simply amazed at her \"fight\". I came to respect Hillary and now I am an avid fan. I went to hear her speak in Southbend and I realized then that I wished I'd been with Hillary from the beginning. If I had my uncommitted vote in Michigan wouldn't have been totally stolen and given to Barack. What the Democratic Party did in Michigan by giving Barack all of the uncommitted votes and even 4 of Hillary's votes plus cutting them in half made me furious. I'm no longer a Democrat. I am 53 years old and pretty much always voted down the ticket Democrat all the way. No longer! Carl Levin will not get my vote! I will not be voting for any Democrat this year. They stole my vote. They didn't care about me. They awarded this election to Barack. In fact they hand picked him. We were told by Oprah, \"He's the chosen one.\" Well, they can have him. I'm fed up with being told to shut up and get in line. They can eat it as far as I'm concerned. I cannot imagine a scenario where I'll be voting Democratic this year unless the Democratic Party comes to their senses and some how Hillary becomes the candidate! By the way, I was furious at the way John came to Michigan with Barack and announced for Barack when Hillary had just had a big win. It was politics and I had thought John wasn't a typical politician. Now I know that he's just like the rest. I am so disappointed in him. I, personally, didn't want him to endorse either candidate. I wanted the best one to be left standing. What we got is win after win by Hillary and super delegates boosting Barack after every win Hillary had. I am so over the Democratic Party. I want a new party. Both of the two main parties are corrupt and corporate. I'll probably vote for Nader if he is on the ballot in Michigan.
Katie | 06.08.08 - 6:55 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ i quit the democrat party after 20 yerars and switched to Independant. I will never vote for obama. Hes a criminal as far as im concerned. IM GLAD SHE KEPT HER DELEGATES. When obama get indited for his part in the renzo case, hillary will be there to take over. Also those superdelegates as well as pelosi,kerry, bryd, dean, will lose their jobs. Pelosi is a huge disapointment. she's toast.
gregg from phx | 06.08.08 - 9:05 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ This morning; the McLaughlin report- will Hillary continue to vie for the democratic nomination in August? I HOPE so! This Indy will vote for her either way (whether or not she is ON the ballot).. but, it would certainly be a LOT easier to have my vote counted should she be on the ticket. Again; Hillary..; PLEASE consider running as OUR Independent Candidate! The Democratic party has blown YOU off as they have done to us. Time for YOU to continue on as our candidate- the country needs YOU!
Obama will not win (cannot win) as he has far too many criminal and \"iffy\" deeds in HIS past- Mccain would bring us entirely into a depression- Only YOU can handle the changes this country NEEDS. And, I will only vote for you... write in or not, I will vote for you and I am calling on all true-democrats to follow me!
Austin, TX
Anne Beckett | 06.08.08 - 10:01 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Democrat No More,
I�ve been a democrat for 33 years, since I was 18; I�m leaving the party for the same reasons as every one else here has stated. And after seeing DNC/RBC meeting on May 31, it has become obvious to me that most of the members have the same lack of consideration and common respect for what is right and fair as the neighbors here where I live (unfortunately). I will vote for McCain in November to keep Obama out of the WH and there by sending a message too the DNC that I don�t approve of what they have become.

To Obama supporters:
You would call me a sore loser for calling the cops after you vandalize.
You call me a racist when I�m a race too, and you hate me.
You make no sense; you don�t fool me.

Robert in California
Democrat No More!!!
Robert | 06.08.08 - 1:31 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I watched dazed and confused as Obama stole IA in the caucuses and heard all the stories of voter intimidation at the polling sites. In my small town ther were only 6 people for Obama and 48 for Hillary and 52 for Edwards. And as the delegates go fron county to state conventions the delegates went from Clinton to Obama. So, our votes eventually didn't count.
I truely believe we should get back to primaries and the popular vote. I have decided to vote for McCain because that is the only real way to make sure that Obama does not get the presidency.
Unless Hillary manages to get in then I will vote for her, of course. She is the only one with a great plan for us. She can work with the rest of the democrats to get our economy straightened out and our troops home safely. Obama only knows how to push people around and buy them off. I really would hate to have terrorists here on our land welcomed by our government to do what they want with us. And yes, I think that could happen. The world is changing drastically and we could be a world at war in an even larger fashion.
We have to stop Obama.
Sherry in IA | 06.08.08 - 1:51 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Last Saturday the DNC did something I'm not very happy about, as a matter of
fact, I'm livid. The DNC Rule Committee gave my vote to Sen. Obama. (Michigan
voter)I decided to do something about it. I am resigning
from the DNC. I like many others will not \"fall in line\". I will be
casting my fall vote for Sen. McCain. I have survived 8 years of President
Bush, I can take 4 of McCain. NO ONE in this great Country has the right to
take my vote and give it to someone else. NO ONE. Remember 2000?

The way the DNC, media, and pundits in this historical race has treated Sen.
Clinton is appalling at best. Why should she have to concede so soon?
Kennedy, Reagan, Hart, none of them did. Then there is the
\"gracious\" factor. Don't 18,000,000 people get a chance to grieve?
Didn't women especially earn the right to process the fact we are still not as
good as a
man? Women seen their hopes and dream slapped down Tuesday, just as much as
African Americans seen theirs come true.

Not one pundit on the news said \"Great job Sen. Clinton. Great job on
being the first women in our Nations history to accomplish such a huge
hurdle.\" No. All we heard was how ungracious and selfish she was for not
conceding that very moment. Remember she too won an upset Tuesday in South
Dakota. Not one \"Yes, it is possible for a women to run for president,
and even win.\" No. Just get out, and get out now. How dare you not
throw in the towel right this minute. I am man, hear me roar.\"

I have learned a lot from this campaign. I would like to share them with you:

1. It is alright to vote for a women just because she is a women.
2. It is alright to vote for an African American just because he is an African
American.
3. It is NOT alright to not to vote for an African American just because he is
African American. This is racist.
4. It is ALRIGHT NOT TO VOTE FOR A WOMEN JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMEN.

Racism in our Country is now dead. this election has proved it, so EVERYONE
WRIGHT, SHARPTON, JACKSON, THE MEDIA, EVERYONE CAN QUIT PLAYING THE RACE CARD.

FOR THIS I AM FOREVER ETERNALLY GRATEFULL.

However, SEXISM is alive, well and running ramped. This needs to be fixed.
Think about the sexism in this election with just the media, 2 apologizes, and
one suspension for sexist remarks. From just one Cable News Network. How many
for racist remarks? Zero, none, nil. This is a HUGE STEP FORWARD. Forty
years ago, this would not have been possible.

Mr. Dean, you should know, my vote for for Sen. McCain isn't alone a vote
against Obama, but rather a combination of that and my disappointment of the
way the DNC treated my vote. It is also a vote against the pundits and media
alike. Chris Matthews \"She wouldn't even be a Sen. if her husband hadn't fooled around.\" Keith Olberman \"Someone should take them both in a room where only he comes out.\" Reporter at CNN \"The newspapers are calling her a white bit
coffeedrinker MI | 06.08.08 - 2:19 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ After 8 years of Bush, I was ready to glory in and with the the Democratic party. I was a local delegate at our district caucus. But I watched with dismay as the Democratic primary process was tilted to a man with no discernible judgment or experience on the matters that will face the next POTUS. My support for Hillary initially was anti-Obama, but I came to fully support Hillary as the campaign continued. The backroom deals that have resulted in the selection of Obama make it impossible for me to consider myself a Democrat.
Connie | 06.08.08 - 2:32 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Michael

New York

Ramblings

Picture it! Sicily. 1942. Oh, wait a minute! That was Golden Girls.

Iowa. Before the Caucus. The other nominees ganging up on Hillary, while she spoke on the issues, they attacked her, including the self-anointed non-politician who really is just a politician. That�s ok. She�s the frontrunner and that�s fair. They all want to be the democratic nominee. And the Obamaniacs scream there is no way they would vote for Hillary!

OK, Obama wins Iowa, while at the same time removing his name from the Michigan ballot by HIS OWN CHOICE because what the heck, the polls show him 20% behind.

On to New Hampshire. A touching question which provokes not only a superb answer truly from the heart, but also a tear! There goes that Obama campaign screaming weakness! But, wait, the media is also pouncing! Oh geesh! A win turns into a sideshow. What distractions from something as important as voting for who gets to be the democratic nominee for President.

Next up, South Carolina! But hey, were those cable ads I saw from Obama in Florida?
Ahhh, the fairy tale comment. Bill Clinton speaking on Obama�s Iraq position. Whoa! The Obama camp and the media just spun that into Bill speaking on a black man�s candidacy! How�d they get that? And where is the DNC speaking out on this divisiveness? All of a sudden, the man named �the first black president� by Toni Morrison is now being called a racist. And Obama turns his back. Hear no evil! See no evil! Speak no evil! Just keep quiet and let the rumors and lies take on a life of their own.

Super Tuesday! Wow! Already talk from the Obama camp that God help us if super delegates overturn the will of their constituents! And the media goes wild! All the stories saying it�s over! Obama is the nominee! Clinton should drop out! And what do we get from the DNC! A finger pointing and a warning to Hillary�don�t say anything to make Obama look bad! What the hell? Isn�t this still a primary?

And the contests continue, caucus after caucus, primary after primary. In between we get bitter voters, a bowling score of 37, basketball and NAFTA. So many screaming how terrible NAFTA was and how Bill and Hillary let the workers down. Hmmm? So is this one of those things from the Clinton years we can attribute to Hillary, while disregarding others? Pick and choose according to Obamaniacs! They seem to be so upset about NAFTA and Clinton; it makes one wonder if in 2000 and 2004 these same people voted for George W. Bush! Ahhhhha!!

So, Obama leads and Clinton calls for one person, one vote and make every vote count! Something about Florida and the 2000 election comes to mind! Now what was that? Oh well, Howard Dean will straighten that out, nothing to worry about!

All the while, the media has been in a haze! No Tony Rezco, no Ayers, no Reverend�.wait a minute! Here comes Obama�s preacher of 20 years! And here comes Obama�s spin on it and his spin on that spin in an awe-inspiring speech on race�NO
NYSmike | 06.08.08 - 4:56 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Exactly, NYSmike!
One person, one vote? And, if this was Obama's mission, WHY did he refuse a re-vote in either Fl OR MI? What was he so afraid of? Of course, he would lose (yet again). Still, I don't know why that WOULD worry him. he DID lose the popular vote- he LOST the popular vote in the \"caucus states\" and still won the delegates. Certainly, other than Ausman of Florida, not one of the undecided supers went with the will of his constituents. This bothers me. As a voter from Texas (a sort of half-caucus state), I am angry that my PLEDGE delegate went with Obama- in the wee hours of our primary date. he didn't even wait for people to go to the polls.. he voted for Obama.,, and when Obama lost here, he did not change that vote. What does Obama have that had so many delegates *who should be more politically savvy, went with him? Is this some sort of joke or a way to get McCain elected? I mean, honestly!
And,as far as the delegates not yet being \"seated\".. I do hope that the majority WILL go with the majority of their people and vote IN HRC. If not, the dems will lose the white-house and they will lose the congress, too!
Is the writing NOT on the wall? yeesh!
Anne Beckett | 06.08.08 - 9:44 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Last year, Hillary said that she was a progressive on national TV and as a proud liberal I thought that was just a gimmick to get votes and I decided not to vote for her. But when I saw the candidates and their resumes, I changed my mind.
Trust me, you don't want to be a liberal male from a minority (I'm half hispanic), in college and a Hillary supporters. I was almost ATTACKED by a group of Obama supporters who I only see coming to school in order to hang out in the cafeteria.
No matter how much I tried to explain, no one listens to me. To all my Obamaniac college peers and classmates, I'm a dimwith. I'm stupid. I don't know ANYTHING.
Yet I have been the star political science student at the school I go to for the past two years. Every professors knows me and loves me. Yet, the minute I declared my support to Hillary, even my professors started to criticize me.
When push comes to shove, my vote is going to John McCain because he is more civilized. I have NEVER been pushed around by McCain or for that matter Bush supporters. This guy has thugs out there telling you day and night that you are stupid. I mean dude, GREAT! If I'm stupid, then fine. This stupid guy is voting McCain this year. And you know what, I'm not even sorry.

And for those who fear the overturning of Roe vs Wade, well, Hallelujah, dream on. I'm not dumb enough to buy that argument.

If you want a logical reply, then here it is:

1. I don't want to vote for someone just because 25% of the electorate went for him because of his race.

2. I don't want to vote for someone who has friends like Wright and Ayer and Rezko.

3. I don't want to vote for someone who isn't proud of being American.

4. I don't want to vote for someone who literally bought the DNC into giving him extra delegates. Hey, don't mind Kwame Kilpatrick's plea to people in Detroit to vote \"uncommitted\"!

5. I don't want to vote for someone who flip-flops on foreign policy to please kids who know nothing about political lies.

6. I don't want to vote for someone who votes present.

7. I DO NOT want to vote for someone who lies on National TV. (He said he wouldn't disown Rev. Wright and then he did...!)

8. I don't want to vote for someone who calls hard-working people bitter. I mean sure, white working class people from the rust belt do own guns and YEAH they are Christians and they are afraid of illegal immigrants taking over their jobs, but they are NOT BITTER!

9. I don't want to vote for someone who is a misogynist. I love my mom, I love my sisters and I love my wife, but most of all, I respect them as fellow human beings. Anyone who disrespects anyone based on their gender will NEVER get my vote.

10. (And final) I don't want to vote for someone who runs a campaign saying he'll change Washington by getting rid of old politics and still hangs out with a fossil like Ted Kennedy. Hello Obama, were it not for people from INSIDE Washington, would you b
Josh Perkins | 06.08.08 - 10:58 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Michael

New York

Ramblings Part II

All the while, the media has been in a haze! No Tony Rezco, no Ayers, no Reverend�.wait a minute! Here comes Obama�s preacher of 20 years! And here comes Obama�s spin on it and his spin on that spin in an awe-inspiring speech on race�NOT! Seems, he didn�t know, but just remembered he knew what he said he didn�t and there goes the reverend under the bus with the typical white grandmother! Well, the DNC seems ok with this! And the media, well, they got half a day�s news out it before they turn to Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears!

And Donna Brazile says they don�t need us and we fight on for who we believe is the candidate with the best experience to lead our nation. The media continue to distract by making it a women vs. men contest. I�m a man! 17 million plus Clinton voters were not all women. And the Obamaites scream we�re all racist because we didn�t vote for the messiah! Gee, uhhh, DNC? Anything to say about this? No, nothing?

And when all is said and done, Hillary takes the big states and Obama takes the small states and caucuses. Wait a minute! A difference of 100+ thousand voters and only a few delegates difference between the two in Nevada, Texas, Ohio, Indiana and Pennsylvania? How can that be?

May 31st�.hey the DNC just GAVE DELEGATES to Obama in Michigan! What the?

And the self-anointed non-politician crowns himself King with the help of the media and the DNC. But, we won�t say that. Let�s just say, oh what a marvelous campaign he ran, so smooth, so organized. And against the media-line �Clinton machine� at that! It truly is the second coming! What with 90% of the black vote in every state�it must be his experience�NOT! It�s called racism! But, it�s ok when it�s the other way around. Sorry Dr. King! Maybe one day, just not today!

And, on that day, I completed my change of party affiliation form to the Independent Party, printed it out, stamped it with 42 cents and mailed it out to freedom. I�ve been shackled for two long with a party I thought was for all people. I thought wrong.

And Obama continues to flip-flop on Iran and on Jerusalem and the media continues to NOT report and the DNC well, they�re just so happy they�re able to share Obama�s donor list! Ka-ching!

>>>>>

Thank you so much for getting us, whomever stated, if it was just about policies, I�d have no problem supporting Obama, but could it possibly be that I just don�t like the man, regardless of whether he is black, white, yellow or orange? Could that be the reason?
NYSmike | 06.09.08 - 4:31 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ PUMA has a new forum. We need to Organize NOW!

http://www.pumaparty.com/forum/index.php

PUMA= Party Unity My Ass
not a dem anymore | 06.09.08 - 8:09 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ So many excellent posts. Thank you all for making my husband and I feel we're not alone.
I voted for Hillary in the California primary despite being less than enthusiastic. I was concerned about her electability due to all the Clinton baggage. Then she clobbered Obama in the debates, started doing a better job of articulating a populist message and won important primaries. This evidence of her strength and his weakness was ignored by the party establishment, and the Obamessiah was anointed.
I have reregistered Independent. I originally registered peace & freedom, changed to democrat and have never voted republican. I absolutely will not vote for Obama.
I am aghast at the misogyny directed at Hillary and how Howard Dean and his cohorts said nothing. But I could \"get over\" my anger.
However I cannot forgive the race-baiting and how the Clintons have been branded racists for making perfectly reasonable comments such as that it took a president to pass civil rights legislation.
Bill Clinton was the only democrat to be elected in recent years, and the Obamatons trashed him. If Obama wins it will only be because it is a Watergate year when any democrat wins. The comparison to Carter is apt because if he is elected he will be another inexperienced politician whose poor judgment could lead to some Carteresque debacle involving Iran.
The creepy Obamessiah cult of personality is downright alarming. He sounds like a motivational speaker. I can only hope that \"ordinary Americans\" will see that he's an arrogant con man. His elitist supporters are saying good riddance to loyal democrats who they consider uncool, such as working class and older women voters.
Well, farewell democratic party. NObama!
Barbara | 06.09.08 - 12:29 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Why did I leave the Democratic Party?
Let me count the ways: They have no spine and are so crooked they walk funny...that must come from steping in doo-doo up to their ankles. Seriously, who do they actually represent? If Arianna Huffington is a card-carrying member, that should say it all. She will turn on a dime and is truly emblematic of how screwed up our country is and how surreal our politics have become. I want something more substantive before I give it up. These people not only kill democracy, they kill our dreams. And that is the real crime.
goldengrahme | 06.09.08 - 1:54 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I just got this and like the idea:

This Grass Roots Action was put together by LAMusing and Shtuey

ALL HANDS ON DECK!

18 million hands - send them to the DNC!

1. Trace your hands on an 8�11 sheet of paper. Make it colorful to
grab attention.
2. Write your name and city/state in the center of your hands and the
words \"I am one of 18 million.\"
3. Above the hands, write: \"These hands are on the front lines of
democracy. I pledge I will not vote for Obama.\"
4. Below the hands, write a line or two about your reasons you won't
vote for BO, why you are upset with the DNC, or whatever stirs your
soul. We suggest you keep it fairly brief for maximum impact.
5. Put it in an envelope and send it off to the DNC.

Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

6. Pass it on!!! Post this call to arms wherever you can! Let's
bombard the DNC with the millions of hands of the voters they
dismissed, ignored, disenfranchised and belittled. And remember the
old saying - \"Many hands make light work.\" GET FIVE Friends to do
this! POST to FIVE sites!

Special note if you live in Florida: Make it just half a hand! Let
them know you'd like to be a whole person again.
Michelle | 06.09.08 - 4:10 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I was not registered as a Democrat until Gore lost in 2000. I felt that it was important to lend my support to a party structure to counter Republican abuses. I also started to appreciate the Clinton legacy - having attended college both under Reagan and Clinton, I understood firsthand that who is President makes a big difference (I had to drop out for lack of funds under Reagan, and work for $3.35 and hour).

Now I'm firm believer in small-government progressivism that was to me the Democratic Party we inherited from the 90's. Then this year, suddenly with this vapid pop-star candidacy there's this huge resurgence of 1) big-government liberalism which is ineffective - government needs to be the surgeon, not the life-support system, and 2) brutal opportunists using any tactics they please to win elections, with the same type of abuses that I saw in the Republican Party eight years ago, and 3) reactionary, irrational leftists who can't maintain a civil conversation and deliberately ostracize and bludgeon moderate voices in the blogosphere.

The combination of these has led me to declare that I will most certainly not vote for Obama - after all, 1 2 and 3 are his coalition, they are the momentum that his election will cement in the party, corrupting it for decades to come. Those who sincerely love the Democratic Party should be more frightened by what an Obama victory would bring than by his defeat in November.

I am still a registered Democrat for now in the hope that this lurch to the incoherent, opportunistic left will be over in 6 months. It is too bad there is no pragmatic, centrist party that would bridge the blue-dog Democrat and moderate Republican ranks - we should dump the fundamentalists on both sides (left and right). If Obama loses and Dean is fired and the party moves back toward reason, I will be glad I stayed in and will work to rebuild the center. Otherwise, I'm with all of you; I will leave and return to a permanent state of independence from all this rank corruption and power-lust.
PanMetron | Homepage | 06.10.08 - 4:02 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I was registered Independent long before Lou Dobbs made it fashionable. I switched to the Democrats because I thought the Bush administration was completely awful. My heart goes out to those of you who have been Democrats for many years. I don't share that kind of allegiance.

As a result of this primary, I will re-register as an Independent and very likely vote McCain. This primary is a debacle for the DNC, but I am gratified by the number of people out there who care enough to protest what went on and to take action.
AnnieEm | 06.10.08 - 5:05 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ SEND DEAN YOUR VOTERS' REGISTRATION CARDS!! I read the above post-- \"all hands on deck\" and thought, wow- we can send him an even bigger message and turn in our voters' registration cards (marked, VOID)..--to HIM.. If, in your state, it does not specify, \"Democrat\", just write the word in. AND, make sure you VOID your card. This should give Dr. Dean the idea that we do NOT play... After all, the Republicans will NOT play and, because of this, we cannot expect to have a Democrat in the white-house and can expect to lose a LOT of Democratic seats in the COngress this Fall.
Let's show Dr. Dean how we really feel about this, ok? By the way, the 21st of June is what Howard is calling \"Unity day\", so, let'es unify with this one big statement!! Get your cards in the mail before the 21st of June!
Please send all to:

Dr. Howard Dean, Charman
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
Anne Beckett | 06.10.08 - 5:48 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I get so sick of the contentment that the DNC and its clones feel over Roe v Wade. It is as though, no matter what we silly women say, R v W will always keep us in line.

What they forget, is that so many of us Clinton women are OLD. Remember, that's why you rejected us in the first place?

Well being old and all, WE DON'T NEED ROE V WADE.

Many of us might have gone to bat and more for this protection, for young, fertile women. You may have noticed most of these YFW threw us under the bus without a back word glance.

And why do we still care?

And if we do care, do we care more than we care about this rampant hatred of women?

Kinda keeps you guessing doesn't it? I hate to keep you in suspense, so I will tell you. I don't care even a little bit more, or to be more clear, it's not even close.

God I love being old! Oh, and funny thing, now we have money too $\"\"$ Kinda makes you giggle doesn't it? Not so much?
Rockrooky | 06.10.08 - 7:09 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Donna Brazile stated that the \"New\" Democratic Party doesn't need working people. To me that was what the Democrats were supposed to be about. I signed up because I wanted to be in the party of FDR, not the party of arrogant, inexperienced, pseudo-libertarian candidates with questionable ties to domestic terrorists and mobsters. It is a sad day when the Republican party is more democratic in its nomination process than the Democratic party. As a new Independent in my state I will no longer be able to participate in the primary process, but that doesn't seem to matter since the people's votes don't matter, at least to the Democrats.
Carol Sturman | 06.12.08 - 4:04 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Carol and Rooky-
OH yeah, as a post-menopausal woman, I do care. Heck, I have a son and a daughter (both early to mid-twenties) and, so, YES, Roe v. Wade matters to ME. In fact, I think it may matter to most of us MORE than the children who have made-up Obama's base. After all, we were there when women were dying and being made infertile by those backstreeet abortions.
Yeesh. I wish these gals would wake up and get a clue. I wonder if there's a great book I can suggest for thir summer-reading list (so that they CAN understand why we \"old women\" are where we are). Some of these gals simply do NOT get it. They call themselves feminists but they act like June Cleaver! And, what a mess this country is in and is headed for, should Obama (the extreme long-shot he is) actually get elected.. again; yeesh!
Anne Beckett | 06.13.08 - 10:42 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I also care about pro-choice issues, but I am under no more reassurances from Obama than from McCain that he won't appoint pro-life judges. Obama is a politician first and foremost. He has not made a courageous stance on abortion issues (voting 'present' instead of making a stand in most cases).
This proves that under pressure, Obama caves. McCain is nothing if not bi-partisan. He would not overturn Rove V Wade. Of this I am certain. the rest is just fear-mongering.
Gwen - Wisconsin | 06.13.08 - 6:50 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I care about abortion, but not enough to sell my soul for it. I feel that what Obama would take us into is much worse and broader than the choice issue.

I think he will take us to a form of big brother that we have not been suspecting.

He has already shown such heartless arrogance and insensitivity.

On a related note, I saw a youtube with Michelle Obama where she could not agree to vote for Hillary if Hillary won. So much for party unity.

How weird is moving the DNC to Chicago?
Rockrooky | 06.13.08 - 10:27 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Never been a democrat but have always voted for democrats. McCain will be my first vote for a Republican. This primary season has shown me the dem party's true colors. Why bother having a democratic process to decide on a candidate, if the party elites would just fudge all the rules in favorite of Obama? If they did underhanded things to benefit Hillary, I would not vote for her, either. But she was truly screwed by her own party for being a devoted democrat and that was just a heinous act of cowardice. I do not trust these cowards to decide the fate of the country, so I say a resounding NO to the Obamacrats.
ken | 06.14.08 - 12:35 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Obama is a shady character. I have not seen 1 good assosiation that has been brought forward from his past. Just all the black liberation theologists. All tte people that believe in killing the whites. He has flip flopped on all his issues and his supporters are as vile as ever. The media is still having orgasms over Obama, even the men.
Thank goodness many of us still have our wits about us. For those that used to go to Hillary's official site(now taken over by the Obamabots) you can go to Hillaryvillagers.com.
Sherry in IA | 06.14.08 - 10:44 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Sorry not Hillaryvillagers.cohttp://www.freewebs.com/hillaryvillagers/index.htmm but
Sherry in IA | 06.14.08 - 10:46 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ http://www.freewebs.com/hillaryv...agers/index.htm
Sherry in IA | 06.14.08 - 10:47 am | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ Hi! I am a former New Yorker who moved to Charlotte, NC 3 yrs. ago and now wish I was back home in Rochester. My vote here in NC apparently meant nothing compared to the groundswell of support for Obama.I was shocked and dismayed by big media's blatant sexism against Hillary and her \"women\"! I am a baby boomer and I am mad as hell! I am formally re-registering as an Independant and will no longer consider myself a Democrat until women are treated better by the party and the media! I will either vote for McCain or will write in Hillary's name. I truly think that she should run as an Independant and screw both parties. Alas, it will not be. So many of we women were reminded of latter times of the rampant sexism that was pervasive in the '60's and the '70's. Now my 28 yr. old daughter gets to experience it. by the way, I also buck the math in the media's statistics. I may be a middle-aged white woman but am highly educated, not blue collar and not Catholic.Let us sound the battlecry!
Pam | 06.14.08 - 10:51 pm | #

$\"Gravatar\"$ I voted Hillary, wasnt thrilled with her, more of a Bill fan but I let her ride his coat tails. I will not vote for Liberal Obamessiah. I like Huckabee but I am a McCain supporter now. I am seriously thinking of switching parties.
Webmaster - DontVoteObama.net | Homepage | 06.28.08 - 4:05 am | #

Commenting by HaloScan

$\"\"$ ");