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I know.
I saw the list at Cagle and lost my mind. I was thinking "there have been other movies with gay characters before right?!" or am I just losing my mind.
Michael Savage calls it "Bare Back Mounting"
I am bouncing around ideas about a cartoon for this as well. ahhhh, the things we have to waste time talking about...
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01.23.06 - 10:34 am | #
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Yeah, it makes no sense. Maybe they're just mad because it's getting so much critical acclaim. What a bunch of bigoted babies.
Mikhaela Reid |
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01.23.06 - 11:32 am | #
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Maybe I'm too young to understand (I'm 25), but does it seem like we're going backwards as a society. I thought we were making progress (and I think the movie is totally progress...I say progress because we should be able to look at love for what it is. Love is love. *sigh* I didn't know love and affection was exclusive rights to heterosexual Christians).
I thought editorial cartoonists were supposed to be insightful, not outright bigots.
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01.23.06 - 11:54 am | #
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here, here! seriously. I also sent this rant to the AAEC email discussion list. this is so NOT cool.
Mikhaela Reid |
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01.23.06 - 11:57 am | #
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That first cartoon, I do believe, is paradying overblown reactions from "heterosexuals".
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01.24.06 - 8:35 am | #
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Frankly, I pity these people. Brokeback Mountain may be one of the greatest love stories of all time, and these people's hangups about homosexuality is keeping them from seeing it, despite the oppurtunity.
I still think Breakfast on Pluto was a better movie, but sadly it didn't get much play. A shame, as Cillian Murphy soooo deserves an Oscar for that role.
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01.25.06 - 8:34 pm | #
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Was there a big outcry over Ann Darrow's romance with a giant gorilla?
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01.26.06 - 5:26 pm | #
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Hahaha. Wow. I understand the comedy in what you are saying, but at the same time...you're so sadly right.
We bash, ban and attack because of two dudes who look at each other in an affection way, but girl on gorilla action is A-OK. Wow.
Again, I think you were just making a joke, but it just gives me one more thing to over think. Now, I'll have to face other human beings knowing that Americans may secretly find the relationship between an overgrown, fantasy gorilla and some girl more valid than that of two men. Wow. I'm just...I think my brain is broken. I need to go home. I hope your happy...you broke my brain.
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01.27.06 - 9:02 am | #
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What's all this? All of a sudden, any gay-joke cartoon based on this flick is childish, bigoted and taking us bloody back in time?
"and these people's hangups about homosexuality is keeping them from seeing it, despite the oppurtunity."
How the hell would you know? I wouldn't be surprised if most of those cartoonists have seen and liked the film, but the fact that they make funny (yes, I found some of them quite funny) cartoons about it doesn't in any way signify their hatred or disinterest in it. It's great material to make jokes about, that's all. Most of my favourite comedians are always quick to point out that they mostly make fun about things and people they like, not the other way around. I can't imagine the case being much different with this.
"We bash, ban and attack"
What, where, who does?
The rather prejudice conclusions both the commentators and author of this article make is the only really childish act I can see here. Sure, some of the cartoons were a little easy (gay jokes usually are, but so are loads of other topics), but does that justify the lot of you agreeing with the notion that these cartoonists' main incentive was to tell the world how straight they are?
It doesn't make sense, and it's like you're taking this as an direct and conscious insult to the quality of the movie and a man's mere need to demonstrate his testosterone-ridden bollocks. Cartoonists, amateur or not, will see the comedy in everything, and in this particular case it was easy to see.
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To an extent I see your point. But at the same time I don't see what is funny about it.
I just don't get the humor in a cartoon that shows a cowboy and a horse hugging with little hearts and the title "Brokeback Mountain 2." I don't get it. Is it funny if we immediately assume that two men in love is the same as a man and a horse in love. Is that the joke? Is it saying that Hollywood is selling unwholesome material to families? If so, then does that mean that being gay is unwholesome? Or do I just not get the joke?
I'm not trying to argue on someone's blog or anything, but I really think it is insulting that I'm supposed to find that funny.
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I'll agree with you on that one. I didn't find it funny at all and the inclusion of a horse is in fact slightly offensive, mostly in that it has no relevance to homosexuality at all, and quite frankly, just being compared to an animal is pretty damn offensive itself.
That said, I stand by my comments regarding the better half of the cartoons listed in the blog entry.
Haarball |
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01.27.06 - 4:07 pm | #
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I spoke to some of the cartoonists who drew these cartoons. I was surprised to find that one of the cartoonists who had drawn one actually thought it was the best movie of the year, but couldn't resist the joke. (he wasn't the one who drew the puking or bestiality toon, though). but one of the other guys just ranted at me about how people have a right to think homosexuality is deviant and that he was mad that the Passion of the Christ didn't get more attention, which he chalked up to anti-religious bias.
Mikhaela |
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01.27.06 - 5:16 pm | #
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Yeah, that artsy film with no audience The Passion of the Christ. How very sad.
And Haar, there are a number of people refusing to see Brokeback because of their hangups about homosexuality. I didn't mean every cartoon was like that. But certainly the likes of Michael Savage.
Meanwhile though, Ruben Bolling takes the whole Brokeback Mountain theme and makes it a hilarious comment of Hollywood "originality", as only he can.
Raznor |
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01.29.06 - 4:37 pm | #
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Gee, I loved both "Brokeback Mountain" AND "King Kong."
I thought that I was gay, but now I'm wondering if perhaps I'm bi...
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ha ha ha. I didn't mean to imply King Kong was a super-heterosexual movie, I'm just throwing it out as an example of a movie I have no interest in seeing, that's all.
Mikhaela |
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02.02.06 - 10:14 am | #
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Huh. While it's certainly true that these linked cartoons about Brokeback Mountain are stupid as hell, I still can't say I liked the movie. I'm fine with these two dudes establishing a relationship, but just because they love each other and can't take that love to its logical conclusion, how does that make it okay to embark on a 20-year-long crusade of lies and betrayal? Would we praise this relationship if it was a man and a woman who met, got together, went back to their lives and then carried on a decades-long affair behind the backs of their spouses? I find it a bit head-scratching to see the film lauded as a great love story; to me the characters show about the same level of morality as the folks in Closer.
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aw, come on, Notley. what the hell choice did they have in that time and place? I thought the movie covered that angle pretty well--Jake Gyllenhal's character was willing to make a go of it but Ledger's character wasn't.
they didn't lie and sneak around because they were bad guys like the people in Closer. they did it because at that time and place, in their world, Heath Ledger's character didn't see gay life as a real possibility.
had they lived and met in a different time and place, they'd have stayed together and there would have been no sneaking.
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02.02.06 - 6:13 pm | #
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Oh, those comics are pretty horrible. What's really insulting how many rely on the reader's ignorance about the movie. Most of them rely on gay stereotypes to make their point, even though the characters in the movie aren't stereotypical (which is one reason Ennis is in denial-he can't be "one of THEM").
This reminds me of one of the Mad" magazine rip-offs that were around in the '70's. (Remember those? "Cracked" was arguably the rest. "Crazy" was pretty awful, and blatantly copied its artwork from past issues of "Mad")I can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but there was this issue did a parody of "Soap", which was a show I'd liked, but which "Mad" hadn't done a version of. When I read it, it was painfully obvious the writers and artists had never watched a single episode, because Jodie was a limp-writed queen who didn't talk like ANY gay guy, queeny or not. (It was also obvious because the artist didn't know what Father Tim looked like, so he just drew him from the back-and got his hair wrong.)
I don't know why I brought that up, except I figured as a cartoonist, you'd appreciate an "I better than THAT" moment (your comic's take on "Brokeback" was actually funny.)
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